GTX 460M Overclocking

i just did an experiment, i turned on the fan in my room and i lifted my laptop 90 degrees, so the fan air will hit my laptop vents, GUESS WHAT !

my degrees is now 85c overclocked 800-1500-1600 with furmark !!!!! i am really really amazaed!

now i will definitly buy a laptop cooler ! (problem solved)

 

David Hammer/// for a while I was not here and the driver which I posted is already modified so you dont need to make anything

nowadays I m on the limit and I use 825/1650/1625 without any problem
and now I m just looking for a voltage overclock which is also really bigg issue for asus

 

Just re-pasted my g73sw last night. Before I could only get gpu to 780 stable.

Now I am at 820 and can probably go higher.

 

Can anyone post screenshots of their games at 1080p nat. res. with FPS and OC of 800+ that's stable with cool GPU temps. Most people with laptops with X-fire or SLI say, that to them the most demanding game is The Witcher 2 and Metro 2033.

Add Crysis 1/2 with Directx 11, if if you want to. This forum needs more screenshots of games to make it more enjoyable to look at. And besides, it's a gaming notebook.

Also, did Waffleboy actually bought the laptop already..

 

okok i just ordered from newegg a cooler NOTEPAL U3 , AND ARCTIC SILVER 5 THERMAL COMPOUND OEM, and ARCTICE THERMAL REMOVER AND SERVICE PURIFIER, i guess i will do alot of things in my laptop.

 

As a previous sli user, when sli works and kicks in there's no match for it.
I used to have an xps m1730 with 9800m gtx sli and an x9000 @ 3,6ghz daily and with a modified sli bit I was able to nail a 26-28fps with Witcher 2 in ultra without ubersampling.
On my g53 with clocks in sig, I'm able to stay around 30-35fpa in flotsam and kadwen without SSAO and Blur while having everything else on ultra.

This is just an example. However in some games like dirt 3, I'm able to run the game at native res,8xCsaa and a mixture of very high/ultra while having framerates above 55fps.
If I drop to 2xMsaa which is frankly more than needed at 1080p/15" I'm able to hover from 62fps to 85.

Crysis 2 has been benchmarked from me alot. Using the same map and settings used by gentech videos, I can do 28.6fps of average at dx9 extreme with a much inferior oc compared to the gtx560m benches by gentech in g74.

However I tried to benchmark the game using my own settings which are dx11,high res texture pack and a mix of extreme/ultra with only postprocessing on very high.
My framerate hovers around 32-45fps without renouncing to such features as tessellation (set to extreme) and shadows.

Also as an added bonus with the gaming oc in my sig, in Super Street Fighter Iv AE im able to max everything with 16xAF and 8xQcaa while having a framerate around 78-85 fps.

Need for speed hot pursuit 2010 is rock solid at 1080p maxed out with forced 2xMsaa thru nvidia control panel. Raising to 4xMsaa or 8xCsaa drops to 35-40, but is useless since at 1080p all you need is just a small AA bump.

Shift 1 hovers around 62-75fps per second maxed out.
Shift 2 can go up to 65 but stays stable around 45-50 maxed out.
Hope it helps.

 

my tempratures are now 86c on furmark i ran furmark exactly after i have done repasting, my question is should i expect more lower degrees (using arctic silver 5). thanks

 

Do you have uber sampling enabled, vsync, anti-aliasing, bloom enabled also at 30-35 fps at 1080p? .. I'm not disbelieving but why don't you post a screenshot? It's nice to see screenshots (with fps) specially for a nice looking game like TW2. It's like making a nice wallpaper. I'm very interested seeing other computer screen or quality image / detail. It's nice to see what eye candy quality people have. That's all Do you also have the Chei Mei LCD screen?

 

280.19 drivers beta are out with a truck of optimizations it seems.
as usual we need a modded inf, so heres my original post:

http://forum.notebookreview.com/asu...-asus-g53sw-owners-lounge-28.html#post7753888

grab the zip attached and overwrite the inf, everything should install correctly.

 

I've tried the 280 beta already, it couldn't tolerate my OC on 3DMark06 compared to the 275.50. I've put back the 275.50, did the 3DMark06 again and got 16,302. I also feel that I can OC some more with the 275.50. And it works with TW2..

By the way, I never had to modify the inf or anything like that on any NVidia drivers. I just download staight from nvidia.com and install (clean install).

 

Not everyone has this issue. I think the hw ID on some of the parts are different.

 

Yep.
Plus newer betas are alot cooler and oc is fine here. I've seen some nice improvements in Crysis 2.

 

Sorry for the late reply mate, no i have tha AUO lcd led screen.
Heres the screenshots you requested, along with a screenshot of the settings:

Settings:
http://img204.imageshack.us/img204/8326/catturayx.jpg

Mixed Flotsam/Kadwen:
http://img814.imageshack.us/img814/4808/witcher2201108011704134.jpg
http://img839.imageshack.us/img839/8672/witcher2201108011706191.jpg
http://img94.imageshack.us/img94/4489/witcher2201108011706542.jpg
http://img220.imageshack.us/img220/8658/witcher2201108011707300.jpg

 

ok i need some help here
im gonna have my asus g53sw at friday
mine has a i5-2410m instead of the i7 2630qm and it has 4gb ram
ive seen many benchmark videos on youtube showing crysis 2 ultra dx11 high tex pack having 20min and 35 average fps
but those have i7 2630qm and 6/8gb ram

my question : will i have lower fps ( like 5+ fps ) when i play games like crysis 2 dx11 ultra + high res pack ? or will the difference be minor between mily laptop and the i7 ones?
ive seen on notebookcheck a page about i3 or i5 or 7 and the differences were verry verry small (max 1fps )
but the guy who uploaded the crysis 2 benchmark vid said i wil have much lower fps

(i will overclock my gtx460 ofcourse )

anyone who could answer me? if i will have much lower (unplayable framerates) i wont buy the laptop

 

or will the difference be minor between MY laptop***

*sorry for double posting i cant find the edit button on the previous reply*

 

No you shouldnt have lower fps, MAYBE just a slightly lower minimum, but the average should be roughly the same, as Crysis is heavily GPU dependent.

However, for some of the newer games coming out like BF3 and Skyrim, the i7 would/will certainly help, over the i5.

 

but even with the i5 bf3 and skyrim will still be playable right?

 

Of course, I was just giving those games as examples as some that would benefit more from the i7.

 

you mean just like they said about bfbc2? if you want to play it on playable fps you should use an i7"

 

No no no lol It WILL be playable for the i5 w/460, I was just saying the i7 would help with those games in particular (and as time progresses), that doesnt mean they will be unplayable on an i5.

 

how much does the memory clock affect performance? seems like the core clock and shader clock matter more...

 

with my current set up if I push memory clock over 1600 it could run but will throttle back to 213-324 after an hour or two of gaming and need to restart the thing if i want it to get back to 825 but if I put it at 1550 (memory) it run fine :-?

 

is that a question or a fact ?

 

sorry if that confused you my English is not so good but yeah it is a fact (at least for me)

 

Been playing with me 3 day old G74SX now and after OC'ing to 922/1844/1250, I seem to be running frosty at constant 71 degrees in Furmark. Is heating the only thing I should look for? Furmark doesn't seem to be heating any higher nor showing any artifacts. Does this mean I can still push my OC more? What others applications or tests can I do?

 

Well, I've gotten up to 820/1600/1640 and it seemed pretty stable in 3DMark06, and running my heavily modded copy of Oblivion, but the GPU will downclock after 5-10 minutes of Crysis (high settings, 1080p). I took it down to 800/1550/1600 and Crysis seems to be doing better. Temps are up to 92 and still rising after a couple minutes of Furmark though (Crysis maxed at 86 before the downclock), which is starting to concern me. As an experiment, I tried running stock clocks again, and Furmark got up to 90, my previous max with stock clocks was 86. I'm a little concerned, but I guess I probably just need to look into a cooling pad or something and maybe clean out the vents. If I'm not the mistaken, the G73SW rarely needs a repaste, right?

 

90 degrees in stock with Furmark? That's definitely cause for concern. Make sure your ambient temps are not so high as well. Although that's still in borderline temps (not dangerous level), not in OC at that temp is prolly time for a repaste (?).

 

The weird thing is, my temps are all over the map. For example, Oblivion used to always push 83+ (heavily modded game on stock clocks). But with my more modest overclock (800/1550/1600), it doesn't top 77 and runs better than ever. Strange stuff . . .

 

Did my first OC today and sitting at 825/1600/1650, but when I look at GPU-Z the memory clock only says 800MHz. Why?

 

just played a bit of BC2 and with 750-1400-1500, the temps maxed out at 80C.

VERY happy with those results, seeing as my old G51Vx (GTX 260M not OC'd) at desktop would idle in between 70-85C!

 

i have a question though, why does OC'ing with inspector show 1450 on the memory but only 725 on GPU-Z? is that a glitch? I ask because I usually trust GPU-Z over anything else i've used in the past..

 

cuz GPU-Z is outdated compared to Inspector

 

1450MHz=2*725MHz ! Inspector is showing the real memory frequency !but they re the same !

 

NVidia Inspector is the best. It gives you option to go up to 1700+ memory on OCs'. Here's my highest stable Gaming OC which I use for Metro 2033 and The Witcher 2. It also gives you good bandwidth reading. Max GPU temps are 76-77*C on 25-27*C ambient.






As proof, here are my screenshots of Metro 2033 with FPS. View them at 100% Browser zoom please for they get stretched and lose detail after uploading here. These are all 1080p, DX11, Normal setting. I added one TW2 in ultra-ish 1080p also. All on same OC of 828/1728. NVidia Inspector, ..highly (X10) recommended.




View at 100% Browser zoom only
http://img43.imageshack.us/img43/5076/metro203320110823000051.jpg
http://img37.imageshack.us/img37/3630/metro203320110823013534.jpg
http://img856.imageshack.us/img856/7697/metro203320110823013958.jpg
http://img29.imageshack.us/img29/6690/metro203320110823013610.jpg
http://img593.imageshack.us/img593/8564/metro203320110823013718.jpg
http://img822.imageshack.us/img822/9575/metro203320110823013714.jpg
http://img17.imageshack.us/img17/3159/witcher2201108230237511.jpg

 

yea i was wondering why it was reporting half the frequency, since ive never seen any type program report 1/2 of the running frequency before

 

@SACH: you should update the title of your signature

Also at the clocks you listed, is your machine stable?

 

Actually the 460M doesn't have to be OC'ed too high to get great performance. At these setting, check the bandwidth..




At these setting with The Witcher 2,




Check the FPS at 810/1620. View @ 100% Browser zoom only please..
http://img832.imageshack.us/img832/3466/witcher2201108241542591.jpg
http://img5.imageshack.us/img5/8482/witcher2201108241545138.jpg
http://img543.imageshack.us/img543/8218/witcher2201108241555558.jpg
http://img41.imageshack.us/img41/3769/witcher2201108241556326.jpg

 

yea i will update it, i need to figure out what font i used to make that first one haha.

and yep those are stable, i ran crysis at those for like all high 1080p around 40-50fps, but there's no need to run it that high. I usually keep it 725-750 cores, and 1450-1500 memory.

 

ok then can anyone here explain to me why some people can go till 850 core clock and some cannot go over 814 ? and somce cannot go over 810 and so on ? this is really annoying as we all have the same laptops with same graphics cards from the same company the only difference is the cpu i7 1st generation vs i7 2nd generation.............

 

Could be vBIOS version differences. Just a FYI, I played DA2 on the JH last night at 850/1100 Love those 11.08 drivers.

 

How can you still be playing DA2? That game was so awful that I only managed one play through. I attempted a second go but even after 2 bottles of wine I still could not punish myself into repeating that awful attempt at an RPG.

Roll on Skyrim.

To keep my post on Topic. hmmmm yes I concur could be the Vbios difference. ha!

 

ok then if it is the vbios why noone managed to fix it so we are all can overclock our gtx460m to 850 ?

 

@SACH: you made me very jealous for now I only put 610/1620/1620 to balance thing out.

Same deal with DA II, I tried to finish my first run and then on the second, I got bored after seeing whats her name? the one whose husband is a templar then she joined the city watch. Maybe after a few more patch fixes, the last of DLCs came out and a whole lot of mods available I will give it another chance.

@expert: maybe because either people got the 5870 or they moved on to the GTX560M or none of us is tech savvy enough

 

One word: Mods

 

Sach and thief i have a special request for you both: can you dump your GPU bios with GPU-z and share it here?
Also can you post your vbios version, by reading it either with inspector or gpu-z?
I want to check something, if it's not too much problem, thanks.
If it's the bios I would be the first one to flash it to try it out.
My revision ends up with 26.0A which I guess is newer, but it doesn't oc very well.
If the 00.25 version thief has (by reading the screenshot) performs better then there shouldn't be any harm into flashing it with nvflash as card and id is the same.

 

I've been reading that gpu-z doesn't dump the vbios correctly so..if you two still want to fulfill my request, I humbly ask if you can dump the bios with nvflash instead (nvflash --save vbios.rom).

Also chastity do you know (or someone else) if the gtx460m in g73 still need a modded inf? I've came across a g73jw vbios but seems that verde notebook driver doesn't recognize the card after flash.
It still need a modded inf.

EDIT: well i flashed the g73jw vbios on my g53sw, and it doesnt change much. Max oc is still 814-1625-1628, anything else crashes. That sucks. I just hope that Thief or Sachs vbios have different results but up to this point i doubt it.

 

Here is my vbios saved with nvflash 5.100.0.1

 

thanks Ipnowlan, im gonna flash it now, lets see if it changes something...

 

Ok here i am, nope it doesnt change a thing.

So after ive flashed and tested 3 different bios, i can affirm that Vbios is not related at all with the OC potential.
Not at least on my g53sw.
Im thinking that its a voltage issue, or an hardware issue if any.
G73 being bigger probably has a different way to handle the power management, maybe its a matter of capacitors and motherboard.
We can only hope to find a way to increase the voltage on these cards althought theres no way to do it right now.

 

Here are screenshot samples with FPS of a stock clock vs 810/814 vs 825/827 vs 850. I'm able to manage to get 850 / 1700/ 1625 mem. to stay for about 10-30 sec. before it downclocks. I did this so we could compare how much FPS on Stock clock vs. 810/814 core has vs. 825/827 vs. 850 with 1625 memory. This is on a loaded saved game, so screenshots are exactly where it is. I don't have to touch anything except F10 to save the shot. V-sync on doesn't affect FPS at all, took it off for it's not needed.


Setting:



As always, View them at 100% Browser Zoom for that's how it looks originally, without getting stretched and losing detail. This is at Chapt. 3 of TW2.

Stock clock:
http://img594.imageshack.us/img594/7255/stockzt.jpg


810/814-1620/1628 memory.
http://img856.imageshack.us/img856/3874/8141628.jpg


825/828-1625/1660 memory.
http://img707.imageshack.us/img707/380/8251625.jpg


850/1700/1625 memory.
http://img707.imageshack.us/img707/5008/8501625.jpg