Games don't perform very well with 211 bios and new vbios

Its not stutter like that... its occasional freezing for a second to two seconds - the picture and sound just freezes up and after a second or two it jumps ahead to what has happened during the freeze and plays on normally. Sometimes this doesnt happen for hours, sometimes i get 2-3 freezes like this an hour...

 

I tried the 209 bios with no luck, so its only vBios related (at least for me flashing to the MSI vBios solves it, im not going to say everyone has this problem and im not even sure how many games do this - so far only DDO is really problematic and SC2 did it twice in all the time ive played but it could be too much action on the screen at those times). Going to try if downgrading to 10.7a helps.

 

In every game? I played WoW+RE5 for hours, but I didn't experience anything like this.

 

I'm all about narrowing down the variables- can you try a game that's NOT an MMO/online? I realize SC2 isn't, but you mentioned it may have been an anomaly when it did stutter.

Just don't want a lag/online flutter to end up being the culprit of a witch hunt. Thus far I only played a little Crysis and some FFXIV beta and haven't had any issues. I'm running 10.7 though as I haven't updated to 10.8.

 

I had that happen to me too.. once today since I updated vBIOS, BIOS and 10.8 this morning.

"Display driver amdkmdap stopped responding and has successfully recovered."

It's also shown in the system log of event viewer. I was not doing anything at the time, and it could have been dimming the display when it happened.
Otherwise no problems.

 

It looks like the video BIOS needs some more work for it to be a true fix. Let's hope Gary and his team have already noticed this and are working towards a fix.

 

Just to make sure... you guys tried the KezNews.com article linked earlier. It has info on a fix for random Windows 7 freezes. It says that the hotfix will be released in SP1 but you can get it early. It's one of those hot fixes that you have to enter your email address and then the MS Server automatically sends you an email with a direct link. I believe someone else had this problem and reported that this fixes it. Maybe not.
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Fix Windows 7 Randomly Freezes and Stops Responding - KezNews.com

 

Hmm, then i don't think we have the same problem. My one doesn't freeze for 1 or 2 seconds, just small lags but happen regularly during every game. Anyone got the same problem with mine?

 

Sounds similar to how my A1 felt right out of the box in furmark. Didn't stick around long enough to see what it might be since I did a clean install of Win 7 Ultimate about 2 minutes later. Have not experienced any lag since then though.

 

I'm experiencing stuttering as well. After a chunk of played time, games like NFS: Shift or League of Legends are getting like -30fps. Complete shutdown and restart helps, but lasts only a while.

I think I have exactly the same issue as jasonnam has.

 

It happen to me with stock vbios and 10.1 in furmark, the solution was reinstall drivers

 

It happens to me just as Hellcry described. It happens in CODMW2, and BFBC2, but more frequently then he described.

Does anyone have a copy of the stock vbios with overdrive enabled?

 

I just reinstalled my window but nothing change, still lagging on stock vibos, 209 and stock driver. So the problem has to be related to bios and vbios then.

But my g73 used to worked fine with stock vbios and 209 before the new vbios upgrade but now doesn't.

Is it because I've been flashing my bios and vbios so much?

Anyone can help? I'm very disapointed now, wish I didn't update my g73

 

Back with my G73, Bios 211 and latest vBios and Cat 10.8, no issues.

Sorry can't help with this problem since I can't reproduce it here.

 

Noticed this in the UDK - launching any of my maps or the shipped maps and firing up UDKGame will result in a freeze every once in a while but the system will snap back a little while later.

 

Using a bootable CD should be just fine.

 

Its definetely not lagg/latency. When my connection drops things in game still move (characters look around, move limbs and i can open menus), i just get a warning that i have high latency, but when this happens everything just freezes up and jumps ahead after freeze is over. Its completely different and cant be mistaken for connection problems.

 

do you have twinturbo disabled??

I notice some micro-freezing in furmark if i disable twinturbo mode ( i am uploading a fraps video now with the micro-freezings )

 

Understood. Just know that was an issue in the past and apparently some people are still seeing it with the Atheros wireless card.

 

video of furmark and micro.freezes when twinturbo is disabled. YouTube - twinturbo ON - twinturbo OFF.wmv

Yeah I missed hairy donut

 

Mate , the simplest solution for you is to return your G73 and get a new one... from factory and apply the tweak.. ur whole G73 seems to be cursed.

 

What? Still hasn't sold the G73 and bought himself a flawless, perfect Clevo?

 

I have not had any Spikes on the new Vbios and 211 but i switched to 10.7a since i picked up a few FPS in games over the 10.8s ....

 

I applied the registry fix, but when I try to install the hotfix it says that it doesn't apply to my computer?!

 

I have an Intel 6200 wireless card and i have it disabled since i have a cable here when im sitting on my desk so thats not it...

Ziddy just go back to your wonder vBios worshippers and stop littering threads. Oh wait, they got an actual working vBios now...

 

Any1 else got the same problem with me?

Do you guys think my g73's hardware is infected after bios and vbios flashing?

Besides, my one is RBBX05 version, does it require a different vbios or anything? (I doubt that though)

 

If it works on another vBios its not hardware.
You do not need a different vBios, its the same laptop, just with a different screen, less ram and different HDs.

 

As some people already reported i also see a little performance increase on 10.7a vs the 10.8 i had. I also havent had any stutters in 2 hours of DDO yet. Ill let you know if it starts happening again, but it seams solid now. Perhaps its just the new beta vBios + 10.8 that dont get along on my lappy, but its still strange that with 10.8 and MSI vBios i dont have any problems...

 

I was going to say almost the same thing. Catalyst 10.7a appears for now to not have any stutter to it, but... No performance gain.

 

calm down both of u.. ur like quarreling kids... u have the vBIOS now hell cry so stop complaining.. get a replacement G73... ur just seems not to work unlike everyone elses... and ziddy.. don't god him... he's keeping his trap shut as much as he can u know.. and just stop it.. u ruin all the threads.

 

I can confirm that besides getting better fps and benchmark scores on 10.7a it also works without any stutters or any other problems (played a few hours more DDO now). Seams its 10.7a for me until a newer, better release is out.
I dont intend to keep changing parts or asking for replacement units since i just didnt have any luck with that. The vBios + 10.7a is fine for me now (of course i hope 10.9 and later will work fine too, but well have to see when they come out) and all i still need from Asus is just the touchpad/missing keystrokes fixed by giving us either a modified Synaptics or new ATK package and ill be satisfied with my laptop.

 

I even get better video playback quality with 10.7, than with 10.8.

 

Its strange really... I dont know what they did with 10.8 but i cant see any improvements with what i play, only worse performance. Judging by what they wrote in the 10.8 release notes they focused on improving crossfire performance and added a few minor bugfixes... Anyway the performance change is not what youd expect from a newer driver.

 

Not me, loskings.

 

new video of twinturbo and furmark micro-freezes.

: YouTube - twinturbo-on-off 2 (it is easy to see at 0:22)

In games this doesn´t happen, I'm just trying to reproduce the stuttering to find a solution

 

Twin turbo is really a bad joke... Besides it being advertised wrongly (advertised to OC both CPU and GPU, when it only OCs the CPU), it also decreases performance since it disables turbo boost, so the overclock twin turbo applies is less than what the turbo boost on CPU can do so you get less performance.
I dont get any stutter in furmark with 10.6,10.7,10.7a or 10.8. Only happened in 10.1.
Using setfsb to overclock more than turbo boost does bring you a performance boost.

 

not for me.. with twinturbo + turboboost i reach 2,975 mhz... it doesn´t disable nothing...



also increases the frequency of the ram at 1420mhz

 

If you dont have an extreme CPU and cant change the multipliers of course you have to OC the ram with the CPU, theres no other way... but the name TWIN turbo was advertised as a feature that OCs both CPU and GPU.

A review which states what i just said.
http://m.zdnet.com.au/asus-g73jh-339303240.htm

Another:
http://www.cnet.com.au/asus-g73jh-339303240.htm

A post from the G73 Benchmarks thread:
http://forum.notebookreview.com/asus-gaming-notebook-forum/458025-asus-g73-benchmark-thread-2.html#post5872704

Browse the G73 Benchmark thread and youll find more posts about it.

 

I ran 3dmark vantage with and without twinturbo and i get same results... note that when using 8 threads/ 4 cores intensively, the turboboost not start (with and without twinturbo)


In furmark with twinturbo cpus runs at 2700mhz ~2900 and without turbo 2500~2600

intelburntest 8 threads with twintubo= 1700mhz, without twinturbo= 1600mhz...

 

I gave you some links. I got the same score decrease and noticed that games actually ran with 1 or 2 less fps so i completely uninstalled P4G to make sure i dont accidentally enable twin turbo (and i also dont like having so many extra power plans when all i need is the three windows gives me that i can modify).

 

but that does not make much sense, if cpu runs faster then performance should be better. When I monitorize CPU, it run faster with turbboost+twinturbo.

Can it be a issue of the first bios?


but it is clear that the best results are achieved with SetFSB: P

 

I have no issues with Twin Turbo, but as recall I never have. It gives lower benchmark scores when I use it, but it increases frame rates on a good chunk of my games and if it doesn't it does not negatively effect performance.

 

It decreases my FPS in DDO and NWN 2 so i just got rid of it.
The point is it somehow interferes with turbo boost. Its not causing any trouble but its not giving any performance boost either. Perhaps there are a few games that might benefit from it, but none that i tested.

 

I got higher performace (quite significant) with Twinturbo in Assassin's Creed 2.

 

Man, that seems like my problem in everygame now, stuttering all the time but less with twinturbo. I'm really geeting sick of stuttering now

 

I don´t notice stuttering in any games (with and without twinturbo) and in furmark there are not any stuttering with twinturbo.

maybe you have some background program that interferes in some way

 

what bios, vbios and driver you are running?

Do you have any idea what cause stuttering? CPU or GPU?

I did a fresh window install but still have stuttering.

 

211 bios, Gary´s official vBIOS, catalyst 10.8.


I don´t know what are causing stuttering... I am trying to reproduce it to try to find a soluton

I have managed to reproduce it with gpu-z on the ffxivbench and TwinTurbo in furmark

 

Try to update to Chastity's vbios, I think i got the problem since I updated from Gary's to Chastity's, I think.

Now I can't bring my g73 back, don't know why, stuttering with everything, even 209 and stock vbios which used to work fine.

 

Have you tried with other drivers?? I had this problem in furmark with stock vbios, bios 211 and catalyst 10.1,when I reinstalled 10.1 the problem was solved