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    Grab copper and a drill, now!

    Discussion in 'ASUS Gaming Notebook Forum' started by SoundOf1HandClapping, Sep 1, 2009.

  1. SoundOf1HandClapping

    SoundOf1HandClapping Was once a Forge

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    81C on a desktop? You're right. In the interest of not melting anything, I might pass.
     
  2. Soviet Sunrise

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    Which GTX 285 do you have, Abula? Hows your case?
     
  3. Abula

    Abula Puro Chapin

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    Evga GTX285 (normal edition not FTW) and Case Antec 1200.

    BTW for some reason CPU-Z didnt record the max temps, maybe a bug or something, but i did had EVGA precision runing paralel and did see 81C.
     
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    It shouldn't be running that hot. Slap an HR-03 on it.
     
  5. Abula

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    Well first time i seen it go that high not even furmark had taken it to 80s, but the card idles fine 37 atm, and in wow bearly reaches 50s, COD4 60s. So im guessing this stress test is hard on the gpu. But the benchmark is new, so could be a bug into displaying correctly as the CPUZ didnt record the max temps, so im not completly sure, but defently saw the 81C on the Evga precision. Here the pic of the html result at the end.

    [​IMG]
     
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    http://forum.notebookreview.com/showpost.php?p=5439455&postcount=20


    lol

    Did some heavy gaming last night at my usual clocks and the temps were maxing at the same range as the stock paste. I might open it up tonight if I have time to see if proper contact was made with the ram and mx-3.
     
  7. SoundOf1HandClapping

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    I wonder why you're not getting better temperatures with your paste and hole mod. With just a paste change I was getting three degrees cooler in a 3DMark06 trial.
     
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    The hole mod definitely lowered temps quite a bit in furmark. Before I was hitting 100+C. Now it tops off at about 97C which is the same as I got prior to MX-3. If I have time tonight I'll be taking it apart and reapplying everything a bit more carefully.
     
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    Do you stil have the thermal padsthat you took out? I'd really recommend that you put them back on.
     
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    I probably will just for the sake of selling the notebook with stock cooling in place.
     
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    It's your money and all, but if you're putting this much effort into cooling the G51 why not just hang onto it? In a year or two you can really upgrade to the nextest-gen GPUs and CPUs.
     
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    I'll be hanging on to it until Q1 2010. Arrandale isn't all that exciting since it's dual core and I don't have the patience to wait on Sandy Bridge.
     
  13. CitizenPanda

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    That's a good point. The next worthwhile upgrade I think is next generation Nvidia or current gen ATI (5800 series)... or a lower TDP Clarksfield.
     
  14. Warhammer40k

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    So with all your mods:
    1. Paste
    2. Lots of Copper Blocks
    3. Case mod ala "big hole"

    your temps haven't improved one bit?

    Also are you using a notebook cooler if so which?
     
  15. Abula

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    Well although i did hit 81C, and another 5870 user reported also 80C, i just read the following post

    This seems a lot like a G51/G60/G70/G72 (could be a sager though), so 79C don't seem that bad, remember i ran mine on my desktop at 1920x1200 so probably at 1366x768 might not be that stressful. Ill run it later tonight and see what happens.
     
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    I haven't received the copper blocks yet. Like I said before, my temps have improved with the hole mod. The mx3 however yielded no improvement. Could be because I put it in wrong (strong possibility) or the stock paste was just put on well. Um sure temps will further improve once I receive the copper blocks.
     
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    Hmm.

    Why not.
     
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    So why are we running that when OCCT and Furmark are more stressful?
     
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    Because it's so pretty.
     
  20. Warhammer40k

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    Ahh k gotcha, I was like :eek: as my copper blocks just started coming in (2pkgs in 2pkgs outstanding) and my 2 bottom panels, tape, etc. await mod'n.

    Recap how happy you are with just the hole mod, did it drop a good clip; I think I am finally going to have time this week to take the dremel to one :D

    Thanks in advance
     
  21. Soviet Sunrise

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    This thread makes me sad. I want to mod a notebook again.
     
  22. SoundOf1HandClapping

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    Do it on yours, then. I remember you said you had to keep your GPU cool so you can overclock it and not get "10 FPS! 10 FPS!"
     
  23. Abula

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    Well its the first benchmark out dx11, with a lot of work into it, might become a good way to compare computers in the future, but might be also the flavor of the month. I still think its a nice benchmark, ill run it tonight when i get home.

    Btw i got the tape, so this weekend doing the copper blocks mod, if all goes good, next weekend the hole.
     
  24. Soviet Sunrise

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    It's a benchmark, not a stress test tool. A stress test application in CUDA can make a GPU just as hot as DX11 and DX9. As long as it pushes the card 100% with optimal control by the user, it's good in my book.
     
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    lol dam i just read thru this whole thread *facepalms how much (little) life i haz...

    sheeba (koreans will know what it means). it seems joker doesnt have specatular gpu temps, IM NOT ALONE praise the lord!!! but i was wondering, why is it that the desktop GTX 285 was brought to its knees while that GTX 260m was @ 79C? i call shenaniganz, ive yet to see another person w/ a G51 run a benchie whether it be fur,3dmark,vantage etc, and have sub-80C load temps on da GPU.

    also joker, idk about u but i would be crying if i lost my warranty over such a silly thing as that...dayum. the warranty is the only thing that makes me feel safe and calm when i sleep every nite.
     
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    I don't hit 80C in 3DMark 06.
     
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    I ran the benchmark, everything stock.

    [​IMG]
     
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    Forge, what thickness are those pads? I'm thinking of ordering some new ones too, but I wasn't sure if I should get 0.5mm or 1mm thickness. So I reapplied MX-3 twice tonight and I've finally got it down. Once you learn how to work with it, it's actually very easy to apply. Max GPU temps @ stock in furmark at 1920x1080p, stress test, 2xaa, post processing = 90C. Max temps w/the same settings @ 550/950/1375 = 93C (3C drop over my previous best temps). Copper blocks should hopefully put me in the below 90 range at max clocks and settings in furmark.

    I was thinking of ordering these replacement thermal pads for the ram: http://www.frozencpu.com/products/9434/thr-65/EK_Thermal_Pad_Sheet_-_160mm_x_155mm_x_05mm.html
     
  30. Lanaya

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    The pads he showed me were 1mm thick.
     
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    Bergquist 1mm pads.

    There are also 1.5mm versions if you search for Bergquist pads
     
  32. Soviet Sunrise

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    Atleast Forge took the time to use a hobby razor. His photography skills have gotten better as well.

    1mm or 1.5mm pads will work well with GPU memory. Pick your flavor. I use 1.5mm.
     
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    I used a pair of scissors, haha.

    Happy customer, etcetera, etcetera.
     
  34. Soviet Sunrise

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    Wow. You seriously need to go to your hardware store and pick up a pack of hobby razors for a dollar. It makes everything so much easier.
     
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    What?

    I had no problems.
     
  36. Abula

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    Im about to other this pads, just wondering some stuff about them,

    Acording to specs its
    MX3 Thermal conductivity: 8.2 W/mK (i know not using this, just to compare the specs)
    Thermal Conductive Pad Thermal Conductivity: 3.2w/m-K
    BerGquist Thermal Material 1mm Thermal conductivity: 1.0 W/m-K
    BerGquist Thermal Material 1.5mm Thermal conductivity: 1.0 W/m-K

    I was just wondering about between the Beg n the other one, since seems to conduct better, but then again specs can be just smoked, but still was wondering about it.
     
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    To touch on what Soviet just repeated, the way the Bergquist pads are configured--only one side is tacky--it means they'll stay on the GPU itself, and not pull up with the heatsink, which is part of the durability problem.
     
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    Hey joker, in hopes that you reach 13k, and since you only one still going with xp, maybe this driver can help, there is only xp version out, nVidia Beta for XP 195.39
     
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    ayyy...lemme get XP and my quadcore could smash that 13K barrier, maybe a lil overvolt and i could achieve 14K with this baby. C2Q ftw!!!
     
  41. Soviet Sunrise

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    You won't break 14k with a Q9000 2.53GHz and GTX 260M. You would need to crank the GPU clocks very high, and I don't think your GPU can handle it because it lacks the additional power lanes on the MXM connector.
     
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    I've been pretty happy with the 186.81 so far, they're very solid. Don't know if I want to mess with drivers right now. I'll give the 13k a shot after my copper blocks get here and I overvolt the GPU.
     
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    lol, dont think of the gtx 260m as too weak, me and joker can make it up there if we try...just a lil overvolting on the GPU, but im too much of a cat to do that. my Q9000 @ 2.50 GHz scores ~3700 ptz on cpu.

    just needa boost my gpu scores, see in my vista, i get 5400/5300 while joker gets 5850/5600. xp will give me that boost to 13K, then raise teh clocks to maybe 625/1000/1650 when i overvolt. ofc will needa drop my ambient to 50F so that my gpu survives haha
     
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    Yeah, but what are your temperatures?
     
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    the GPU is missing an extra bit that helps transfer power from the MOBO to teh card itself to help stabilize it at high clocks. So overvolting most likely won't help very much anyways.
     
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    Forge is happy, oh so happy

    1366x768, 8xAA, Xtreme Burn
    GPU with .95 Extra, 550/1375/825
    CPU at 11.5x/3.06 GHz/1.188v

    On top of Xpad. Prior to this test I did a small-pack, 19-minute OCCT CPU test. Ambient 68.9F
     
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    Damn, 79C on OC setup no UV, seems like your the king of coolness on the G51 legendary hot series.
     
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    He is until he ships me his backplate =P
     
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    Well, I'll have someone else's backplate, so I'm expecting drops to 78C, fans shut off, I climb back up to 86, and the process repeats.

    Which gives more room for overclocking. Happy, oh so happy.
     
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    Whos backplate???? i thought u were using the drilled one you made, is the new technique that its giving you this temps? i want nakedpiks.
     
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