Grab copper and a drill, now!

he is using the one he made. He's getting a new one (that has a kondor hole mod) and will be using that. I'll be applying a kondor hole mod to Forge's current backpanel once he ships it to me.

 

I see people climbing up my mountain.

 

Give us MX-H20 and knock us off.

 

You gonna hop on the W870 wagon with me? Or are you gonna keep John Kerry'ing?

 

Thx for the explantion EIement, i thought there was new Soviet Engineering into it . But this looks really promising, no UV with those temps, seems amazing.

 

I really don't know. I'm leaning back over towards the W870CU as I am thinking of purchasing an Asus netbook to partner with it.

I must prepare my avalanche machine to knock mountain climbers off.

 

I can assure you, I have made revisions to my current cooling overhaul that will be implemented into my upcoming notebook. It will be revolutionary.

 

Hurry up and order it so we can start preparing mods.

 

Just like my M570TU, I won't disclose the first release until a couple of months after I complete it. But know that I will be working on the new design. I have a bunch of new power tools available to me to assist in creating the most effective Siberian made cooling mod this Russian has ever achieved.

 

I wish i could join you guys on your Clevo journey, but its too rich for my blood. Thinking that i might getting a GTX380 soon, i just bought the G51, a new laptop will have to wait for a year at least, but i wish you luck, hope more techniques are shares the Asus hot runing community.

 

To make sure it wasn't a fluke, I did it again. This is about five minutes after an hour long or so Left 4 dead session. It was, of course, all Sach's fault.

Ambient started out at 69.3, fell to 68.9 by end of the test.

 

I maxed at 75C in that L4D session. =P

 

ofc. its my fault, that's a common phenomenon by now. L4D fail, high gpu temps cuz sach is in the game, global warming, its all sach's fault -_-

that y u booted me from admin of AGO? i mite cause a mass of ppl to leave cuz they see that geow2 symbol in the admin slot...

 

Well finally home, starting the copper block mod, ill post pics n tests later on

 

I took the sponge out of the heatsink, and this is the initial placement (nothing is sticked yet), still have to take the tapes out and stick the Sekisui Thermal Tape.



I know some might not be as effective (Chipset as it doesnt touch on top), but i had 32 blocks didn't want to leave some collecting dust, all went in .

If something is wrong pls say so right now, im going to clean the locks and the pipe, so i have time before i mess it up. I already tested putting the plastic back part, all seem to have clearance still (even the Chipset).

 

The placement looks good, you've pretty much covered the whole area
I'm gonna try and sand my blocks which are left and place them on the GPU heatpipe. IMO it would be better to put them on the heatpipe than on the NB.

 

Thanks for the reply,

Well i wish i could place some on the videocard pipe, but i tried twice and it will not allow me to close the plastic back part, i would have to sand a lot to place them probably worth it, but i don't that much time on me atm.

 

This tape that copper blocks come with taking a long time to get off, it doesnt peel toghether, its like petroleum tape. Im off to the hardware store to see if i can find something to take this out.

 

Buy some sand paper while you're there. I'd definitely recommend sanding these blocks down so you can fit it on the GPU heat pipe. I think the biggest cooling difference will be made by adding extra copper there. If I was keeping this laptop, I'd have done it the lazy way and sanded the top of the blocks using a dremel sand bit. It wouldn't look as even or nice but at least it would fit.

 

About these copper blocks (different laptop, same heatsink setup), I attached 8 with sekisui tape around the GPU but didn't achieve much of a temp drop :L What are results like when replacing the fake fan mesh with something like this : eBay link?

 

I considered a grill like that but I think it wouldn't be optimal for airflow. You'd be better off with a flat mesh. BTW what exactly is his octi-tron project? I did a search for it but didn't find anything.

 

He removed it because he couldn't take the heat when people didn't like it. Its a custom built 40lb "Laptop"

 

Apparently, people weren't as enthusiastic as he wanted, so he removed all of his posts in the Octi-Tron thread. Kind of like "If you guys don't like it, I won't tell you about it, so there" thing.

 

I used a paint thinner to remove this putty glue. After keeping the blocks in it for 10 minutes, the glue came off no problem.

Yeh it takes really long. I'm gona try to sand them using a drill with a sanding round tip and se how it goes.

 

ty, ty. I thought so too =P

 

lol 40lbs? Wow, I'd be too embarrassed to show that off.

 

I went to buy some stuff at my local hardware store OOPS All-Purpose Remover and work pretty good, 5 minutes on that stuff, and comes out like a sheet. But still doing 8 by 8, taking long to do this cleaning.

 

Fine sand paper then wet & dry is another option for getting that crappy black tape off

 

You guys really need to toughen your fingertips. You don't need anything to get the black tape off. Go take karate or something.

 

What Soviet said. It was all fingernails and sweat and tears.

 

post some temps plz and what is the weight of your laptop now?

 

Looks good to me. I would have set them up the same way too. I'm starting to see how little clearance the G51 has. I originally thought that one can put blocks ontop of the GPU heatpipe. All that's left to do is cut out the hole for the main fan and drill holes into the rest of the backpanel and you're done.

 

Alright i finished .

Here the results, to my surpirse, the idle is 1C higher, not sure why, i usually hang between 47-52.



But the gain is where it matters, on load . (the furmark bugged into taking gpuz clocks but it was asus stock clocks).



Compared to what i usally gotten without any mods



So 6C drop for me with 32 blocks, i dont get why my idle went up though, but really dont care much about it, as long as my load is lower im happy.

 

If you stick a piece of Duck Tape to the bottom of the blocks (sticky to sticky) you'll be able to peel off the old thermal tape easily (no bloody fingertips, no sanding, no solvent)

 

May I ask you to run this test - Core2MaxPerf ( http://www.withopf.com/tools/cputempwatch/ ) on your modded PCs w/heatsinks for at least an hour?

I just wanna know if your laptops stay up and running or shut off

 

pretty weak test. Intel Burn Test was by far more intense. currently 10 minutes in and at 56C max, hovering around 54/55. Intel Burn Test v2.0 took me to 61C max. oh and btw, my laptop is not modified in any way besides the different thermal paste from stock.

 

Thank you much but are you running it on G51J?

 

This is not a thread for the G51j...you didn't ask for G51j users.

 

I tried the tool just a bit but I think I found the problem: It seems the fans don't kick in on high for the CPU as they do for the GPU. With only a couple of minutes with 8 threads all at 100% use I got to 80C which is a temp that I had never reached with my CPU before.

I think your laptop shuts off because the fan probably doesn't start and thus the CPU gets too hot. Considerning I use my laptop 24/7 on, playing games, working etc and I had never reached such temps before, I rather don't try that tool unless I find out first if my fans will work with the CPU. I don't want hardware problems later on for a test that will never happen in real life apps!

You should monitor your temps to see what is going on.

 

Just did another test, intelburntest (maximum) just 2 loops.

Before (23C ambient)


After (22C ambient)


In two weeks i might do the Fan/grill vent thing (my boss has to bring it with him), and probably undervolting cpu n gpu.

BTW Forge what temps did u get on your T9900 stock and undervolted?

 

wow so you idle like 5C lower but have a 13C higher max CPU temp. in 26C ambient I was hitting 61C.

 

Well from what i read the T series usually idles lower than P, but loads higher than the P. But in games barely reaches 56C, while idles most of the time at 28-30C. I kinda wanna see what Forge temps were and are now .

Btw you runing maximum or standard in intelburntest?

 

I ran maximum w/ 2.2-2.8GB of ram avail and got same temps.

 

Watching the ASUS G51J-A1 Video Review around 6:34, with the dual pipe and the cpu has also the pipes going without a bracket, my guess its it can fit more than 32 blocks (including gpu), mine was able to take the 32, but i only used 6 after the cpu (2 on the pipe 2 on the nb chipset and 2 on the bottom of the chipset) with a single pipe, so im assuming it will allow to place double of what i placed after cpu maybe more as my cpu only allowed 1 cause of the bracket, i would try 40blocks on G51J (probably can fit more). And for Sekisui thermal tape, i would only buy 3 strips, i got 28 on a single strip, with some i screwed while placing so i had to use like half strip to finish, but 3 should be more than enough for 40blocks.

 

Sorry, can you post the new copper block placement overview?
i want to know where did you get the RAM memory heatsink?

thanks

 

wow nice results abula...

the only mod i think i'll do during christmas when i have free time is the backplate kondor hole...so i needa find THE MOST suitable mesh grille...

tons have been stated but i havnet seen any success stories so i ask, what is, atm, the best grille to use?

the different ones ive seen used are

abula/joker - http://img41.imageshack.us/img41/5593/1000420w.jpg

joker's 80mm w/ ghetto screw mod - http://img188.imageshack.us/img188/8438/img0111hy.jpg

another few mentioned...
ebay - sheet of Al
80 mm Al grille
120mm aluminum grille

the last one looks tempting, the 120mm one.

so for the checklist, i will need...
1 dremel tool to cut this baby
1 spare backplate to do the mods on (if it ever gets in stock)
1 fan grille mesh to protect the innards (needs to be strong and have good spacing of holes...)

btw, if i decide to do the copper mod, is it complete neccessary to do forge's multiholes? can i still get temp drop without multi-hole mod, around 1-3C? with holes, can i expect 5-8C drop?

 

Don't diss Joker's mod.

And with your temperatures, do the holes. You'll need all the help you can get.

 

$20 says he screws up.

 

I'll put 10 on him leaving the backplate on and accidentally drilling his mobo.

 

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