Grab copper and a drill, now!

You are a stronger man than I. I need milk and a muffin.

 

Did you replace the stock bubble gum with Arctic Silver 5?

 

It shouldn't be too difficult. It's just a big chunk of copper held down by a bunch of screws.

 

Not hard to pull out at all. I don't know what happened to your previous computer, but once the screws are out it comes out quiet easily.

 

I think he's trying to pull out the heatsink with the screws still on, haha.

 

lol... thats not the case, more like using "suspicious" thermal pads which bonds the cpu and heatsink together, i did say the cpu was stuck onto the heat sink which means the screws were already off and the paste glued the cpu onto the heat sink, anyway according to you it seems that these thermal pads dont glue the two together making it relatively easy to pull out.

 

Oh, in no way are they glued together. The GPU thermal pads are soft foamy things which don't stick, and that crap they put on the CPU and GPU interfaces breaks off easily.

 

I tried to read the thread but with so many new orders idk what to order .

How many of the smalls and large ones do i need for the g51 and how many strips of tape?

 

I think you'll need about 24 10x9x4mm blocks to cover everything (might be a bit more; I'll write when they actually come in).

Two strips of tape is more than enough for just the heatsinks. I only used two-thirds to do what I've done so far.

 

Took Crysis Warhead out for a spin.

1366x768, enthusiast/very high textures, everything else gamer/high. Motion blur at a little below the halfway point. No AA.

X9100 at 3.06 GHz, 11.5 multiplier, undervolted to 1.250v. GPU at 605/1512/900 (10% overclock on nVidia reference clocks 20% overclock over Asus stock clocks) with full extra voltage. On top of inactive Zalman.

Played the chapter "All The Fury". Took about... thirty, forty minutes.

Max temperature 89C, usually hung around 87-88, with the occasional spike of 89C. For some reason after the aliens came I was averaging maybe 86-87 and maxed at about 88. Ending cutscene I was mostly 87C with a spike of 88 here and there.

At those clocks I used to max 94C or higher.

 

30-40 min? tsk tsk Only joking, those are sweet temps.

BTW, do you guys think something like this would help at all with temps? I saw one the other day for like 10 bucks and figured it might be worth it (since its so cheap). It basically just helps pull air out of the laptop tho

 

I'm getting tired of seeing that goddamn Fairy. Do not get the Fairy. I can guarantee that the rest of your experience here in the Asus forum will be a very miserable one if you do.

 

Lol @ that face. I guess ill pass then . Just figured id ask about it. Anyways thanks for saving me 10$ soviet, I'll buy you a pint sometime

 

Oh yeah i forgot to ask btw, how far roughly should the copper blocks be apart from each other to have optimal heat dissipation?

 

They should be as close together as possible. But if you only have space for say two blocks but you have enough room to space them apart, then they should be spaced apart.

I finished publishing my cooling article so you can use that as a reference. http://forum.notebookreview.com/showthread.php?t=416414

 

According to OnlineMetals, my copper sheets should be coming tomorrow. Then it's time for a northbridge and GPU shim, plus HDD plates. All I need is more holes, additional copper heatsinks, and the RAM heatspreader.

 

0.0135-inch northbridge and GPU copper shims installed as I type this. Going to run some tests.

EDIT: I don't have decisive results for this the efficacy of this mod, since my testing conditions are not the same, but it looks promising.

Anyway.


Results after mod version 2: (Still incomplete)
Furmark 1366x768, Xtreme Burning Mode, 8xAA, fifteen minutes. Ambient 76F. X9100 at stock voltages and clocks, GPU at stock Asus clocks. On top of inactive Zalman NC2000.

Please note that this test is conducted at a warmer ambient, 76F, a 3F/1.67C difference.

Max temperature 87, stabilization 83.

I'm going to have to conduct this test at the same temperatures as in my first post, so stay tuned.



EDIT2: Might as well show you guys: the heatsink on my G51 doesn't make full contact with my GPU die. This is the imprint AS5 leaves behind on the heatsink when you do the nearly-transparent layer. The shim should counteract this, allowing me to use as little TIM as possible.


EDIT3: MY room won't lose this orange scent.

 

Thanks for directing me here, forge. I am gonna copy paste the question from the other thread.

I removed the heat sink of the cpu today and found the thermal compound between the CPU die and copper is bone dry and hardened, yet my cpu remains very cool(under 50c after UV all the time), should i be worried and change the thermal paste? or is this completely normal?

 

Ideally it should be hardened. That means it's flowed into the irregularities and filled them in. If you've opened it means you've probably broken it. Time to replace that paste.

 

Forge is correct. Whenever you remove the heatsink fully, even for a minute amount of time, you need to replace the thermal paste.

 

hmmm, thanks. But my temp didnt change much after i put everthing back on, it still below 50C after UV. Maybe that means i havent broken the contact between the thermal and copper? or MUST i replace the paste?

 

If you don't have any on hand, it looks like you're okay. (And I mean okay, not good).

If you have something lying around, clean and re-apply pronto.


EDIT: Hmm... Either my copper shim isn't working as it should or the holes are detrimental. My GPU is refusing to stay below 50C.

 

Either these pills aren't working as it should or the Koolaid was detrimental. My fever is refusing to stay below 38.2*C.

 

kay!!thanks, I think i am gonna get some new thermal paste then, i assume AS5 would be the best option, right?

 

Or get IC Diamond 7

http://www.heatsinkfactory.com/ic-diamond-7-carat-thermal-compound-15-gram-p-16605.html

 

MX-3/2 or IC Diamond 7 would be better. They are not electrically conductive, so they won't post a danger to the rest of your system if you get a drop somewhere it shouldn't be, and they also cool better.

 

PEEELS HEEERE.

On a serious note, did you get cooler temperatures right off the bat or did you need the minor optional curing period. I can't remember how my stuff went.

 

iirc, only AS5 has that 200 hour break in period. My ICD7 showed decreased temps within an hour of application

 

Right then. Just going to wait a moment.

I wonder if installing SP2 might have done something. Hmm.

 

xleonid, do you undervolt your CPU? how is the temp of your P8600?

 

I haven't undervolted it yet in order to benchmark how it will perform, but I did try it and it was certainly successful.

 

When I switched from MX-2 to MX-3, I didn't notice a difference. Both my CPU and GPU are running cool enough that any beneficial effect from the new thermal paste would be on the fractional level. Then again, the mount is still fairly new as it is only 10 days old. I still need to cycle the thermal paste with games and stress testing until I open up HWMonitor again to record my findings.

 

Well, I know MX-3 showed an improvement over stock paste.

I'm wondering if I'll be seeing a difference between old MX-3 and fresh MX-3. But I'll have to cycle it some first. Right now my ambient dropped to about 75F, and I'm idling at 45C.

 

Either that or I did a really poor job on the application. I was a touch buzzed the night I mounted the new paste.

 

Just for the heck of it, I've tried to undervolt again. Here are the results.

EDIT: ambient temp: 78F

CPU temps have dropped at least by 4-5c

 

I should undermultiply/undervolt to you guys' level so I can compare.

 

Indeed! It would be very interesting to see the outcome.

 

Well, for you it would be imperfect, since I have a hotter running GPU and that'll effect the results, but, hmm...

What's the ambient temperature when you took that screenshot?

 

Ambient temp was: 78F

EDIT: My 8 blocks of copper will soon arrive...

 

That's what I said a while ago. I'm really not happy with this vendor at the moment.

My clocks are fluctuating more than I remember them doing. While it means my paste job wasn't bad--I hope--it begs the question of why my GPU ramps up randomly.

Say that three times fast.

EDIT: Just hit 500/799 there for a second. Weird.

 

Maybe it has nothing to do with the "paste job" Maybe it's software related, say it's the drivers...?

EDIT: I don't think it's hardware related. Do you have Aero enabled?

 

What I'm thinking. According to GPU-Z, my temperatures shoot over 50C when my clocks ramp up. There it goes again.

I think it's the NBR animated ads, nad maybe SP2 being stupid.

 

My GPU is at 53c right now. I think if you choose to use the "Vista Basic" theme, you wouldn't have those sudden GPU clock changes, at least that's what I think.

BTW I am using "Vista Basic" theme at the moment.

 

I'm using the regular Aero.

And I guess the brain of the computer lies in the bottom panel, since removing chunks it seems to have sapped its intelligence.

Standard testing settings (as seen on first page), ambient at 75F (This is 2F/1C warmer than my previous tests.

The damned GPU couldn't decide if it wanted 83 or 84 as the stabilization.

 

Those are still great results. I am really anxious about modding my 9800m GS with those coppers. I am assuming 8 blocks will have great effect on my GS's temps. Don't you think?

 

Hell, go for 24. They're cheap and the shipping's free.

 

And there are no Customs fees from the IRS that come in the mail six months later.

 

I wanted to keep things simple without spending money yet. especially since I can't use the laptop at my job anymore.

Do you think it's worth drilling/opening the circle grille to let more air in? If that's the only mod I do, do you think it'll be good for a few degC cooler?
I asked Forge about this. Anybody else?

 

Affirmative.