Happiest day of my life so far!

Okay, yeah yeah I have no life and all that but today is the day I'm ending my struggle with my beloved G73JH, which I've been with for a year! All the countless hours on CoD MW2 and the odd 10 nukes are now being left in the past.

Anyways, here is it... Official: I'm getting a G74SX TONIGHT. And I mean it, tonight. Goodbye AMD/ATI (hatred intended), I turned to the green side today.

So yeah, this just had to be written. Tonight I will become a proud owner of a G74.

P.S. Watch me overclock that badboy like you've never seen before

WOO!

 

Congrats! I've been thinking of getting G74sx as well, so your experience with it should be a valuable input for me. Please keep us updated. Thanks in advance.

 

i personally like the looks of the g73, what made you switch?

 

Funny, you "upgraded" to a machine with arguably less-upgrade-ability; that even your JH could have surpassed or at least rivaled with the proper fine tuning.

Why do you hate ATI/AMD so?

 

Congrats to your new Laptop rig yo.

But G74 is not a big leap from G73.

 

Again second post of CrappyAlloy which I say Yup too.

You are expecting wonders from a new looking notebook case sadly what is inside will not be as magnificent as you expect.

It is an upgrade yes, but is not anything to write home about. Can only hope you are getting the full SX and not the BBK7 otherwise your potential upgrade is going to be a downgrade.

 

Let's know how the machine runs, do FPS comparison with mw2 between the two machines, and obviously, with everyother game you have.

Honestly, I would love to have Nvidia drivers myself too...


But I cleatly knew what I were about to pick and I chose ati, and I think I'll do it again.

:X

 

I personally chose nvidia all the way upto when the 5870M was released but that thing at release was just a monster and I had to have it! Since then by learning more about GPU performance and how they work I would definetely stay with ATI, bad drivers I have not really had any experience with and OpenGL is not something I need.

Going to be standing by my 5870M into 2012 me thinks, a bit more Pixel Fillrate would have been nice but cant blame the old girl for that

 

I agree with the OP and congrats to lepekhovm. Is it common accross brands (AW, sager, etc) to have to change the VBIOS to use updated drivers? I know what modded Vbios people are posting here works fine but why should I have to risk brickinig my machine just to have the driver upgrade option? Also I see people downclocing to 70/90 for 3 hour battery life, mine crashed at 90/120. I also crash on anyting over 750/1100. I know these thing vary card to card but when I get another machine I will ask the dealer to test clocks B4 shipping.
lepekhovm please let us know if you have to change your Vbios to upgrade the drivers. Thanks

 

Okay guys, it seems to me like mine isn't cut down to 128 bit, so it's the actual 192 bit GTX 560M with 3 Gigs of VRAM on DDR5. Which is actually really good me thinks. So, I promise to keep you updated on everything I do today, I'll try out some games and post some stuff here.

But, actually the main reason for my switch was the uselessness of the ATI. There was a massive load of problems with the graphics card, plus I still had a 720qm, so the processor leap is quite significant.

I'll try stick with the stock drivers for a couple of days, just to get the thing going, and I'm only going to overclock it, not downclock as I'm not moving it from my desk. So, benchmarks and game tests to come soon.

And... I just like green more than red. Green FTW.

 

Is it a best buy G74?

 

Nope, it isn't.

 

Keep us informed if it run better / faster than the G73JH.
I may switch for this too for the faster CPU and and the more robust power saving /clock management of the GPU. Not forgetting CUDA!

 

can you do some benchmarks on the THE WITCHER 2 ? XD (if you have the game)

 

Right, a little update here. Got the 560M overclocked yesterday, got it up to 915/1830/1475, so raised the FurMark 1080 benchmark from 712 to something like 815 or some . Nevertheless, even at max load at this overclock, the temps NEVER exceed about 65 degrees. Which makes the cooling system like... insanely insane. So, playing JC2 maxed out for 2 hours just keeps the GPU stable at 65 degrees.

The problem is, even though the temps are so low and stuff, I still want to use it and get them safely up to around 80-90 degrees. Which means I want to overclock it more and more and more. Can I anyhow raise the clocks even higher, or change the voltage or something. So yeah.

And, runs CoD MW2 multiplayer without getting lower than 62-64 (woohoo)

I'll be thinking of overclocking the CPU soon as well. Any suggestions?

 

This something that has not yet been confirmed but it is most likely that Asus have hardwired the GPU seeing that it is built into the Board as well, Overclocks are not just limited by voltage and temperature each chip is only binned to reach the clocks it is made for any overclocking is just experimental and unless you plan to pump liquid nitrogen into your laptop your highest overclock is normally your highest overclock, any attempt to repaste etc could even cause you to not be able to reach what you are getting at the moment with those temps being so good.

Also you cannot overclock the sandy bridge you would need to upgrade to another model or to the XM model to look into overclocking a sandy.

 

So, my question to more experienced overclockers, what is Voltage Overclocking and how is it done. Yeah. Might appreciate a little cute link and a couple of adviced. Thanks in advance. <3

 

Did I not just explain it clear enough? I will try again.

The voltage is probably hardwired meaning you cannot overvolt it unless you intend to modify the pins on the motherboard itself which is known as a volt mod to the people who have the balls and knowledge to do it but no one is going to recommend that to you because you could quite easily burn out your motherboard and there is no guarantee it will work. If it does you will most likely void your warranty and your temps will skyrocket.

Again as mentioned you cannot overclock the sandy bridge. Unless you have the XM model. 2920XM.

But if you would rather wait for a more experienced overclocker to tell you the same I will bid you adeu

 

These types of statements bug me, the g73 Jh hasn't had those issues for ... years, now. And it's not an ATI thing, it's an ASUS thing.

If you want to hate on a company, hate on asus for bunging up the card fabrication and vbios. Or hate on nvidia for providing their customers with poor underfill a few years back. AFAIK, ATI hasn't done anything bad other than buggy drivers for years... asus, nvidia, intel, apple, HP, dell OTOH ...

 

Well, for the JH, you can't. ASUS (not ATI) blocked overvolting. As for OCing your nvidia card, try the threads about OCing the nvidia card, they're everywhere (including the big thread that says "READ THIS BEFORE POSTING")

 

Well, the feedback I got was that the tech support from AMD with the 5870M was less than stellar, and was part of the decision to move over to Team Green.

 

G73 came out 1st quarter of 2010. What you been smoking lately?

 

Still the 5870m rivals the newer Nvidia cards in the newer Asus notebooks. I've seen alot of users saying how much better the ATI card is since it posts high framerates and great performance. You can use 3D but that should be dropping your framerate down some. 3D is now considered a flop in the industry, with most of the 3D movies are low standard , and slow adoption of 3D technology,the 3DS selling less than expected, the failure of having universal 3D glasses which now sparked a new iniative from the industry of having FULL HD 3D glasses. BTW my eyes are fine and when using REAL 3D in the theater to see Transformers: Dark of the Moon my eyes would sting painfully for about 5-6 seperate times throughout the movie.

Also for people that drink alcohol before using 3D glasses, prepare for eye damage. I think these 3D glasses are still being marketed and the real world symptoms are being kept very hush hush.

 

+1 rep for your recently new avatar chastity

 

Sorry but im with DCX on this one because I back the 5870m through and through and cannot stand people mocking it who have not even given it a chance or just listened to people fob off the JH because of the issues it raised before being totally fixed. Asus did not test the 5870m before introducing it, the card itself has had minimal problems in other laptops and in fact did a smashing job at release jumping onto the scene with DX11.

If you make the effort to get something to work as it should do you are rewarded, nothing is free in this life especially if you want a powerful gaming notebook for a bargain price which the JH still is along with making a mockery of the the new G74 even with its sandy bridge and brand new Nvidia card warped into the board how come I am benching on par/higher than its CPU and GPU for half the price.

3D is no better than Physx in a laptop its a fancy feature that it claims you can use and then you turn it on and it leaves you fiddling with the settings to get anywhere near reasonable frames at native resolution. Before fanboys attempt to tell me otherwise CUDA to you.

Fixing things may not be for everyone but this JH has taught me to flash which is valuable experience to have, learnt to conduct a total dissassembly again valuable experience and learnt to test hardware to reach the best results, and the punishment I have put this 5870m through it deserves its place at the top of my leaderboard and I will need something pretty special to get me to consider going back to team green.

I have little argument with ATI if any, I like many others have/had and continue arguing about Asus and its a sad day that I might be credit carding an Alienware onto the scene once my JH joins davy jones locker if the G75 does not cough up the goods we need.

 

The blind dumb ATI/AMD hate in this thread makes me sad.

 

Read and understand DCX post before claiming he is smoking the longbottom leaf he said: these type of statements bug me (comma) and then gave a hypothetical statement that some reviewers make about the JH model being the spawn of satan since the anti christ.

The JH could well be the devil, but I could go back in time to January 2010 with a G73JH and G74SX from quarter 2 2011 to show them what the future holds from Asus and I bet you the JH sales would skyrocket.

 

I think ATI that has stuck with mostly HD graphics instead of going more way of way 3D options was a good idea. Also there is the driver updates through ATI that focused more on it's core base than 3D technology. I expect 3D technology driver support to only dwindle over time. I know companies will now spend more of their research options investing in better original HD technology, maybe such as displaying at higher resolutions than 1080p.

A company like Sharp that went the way of the Quatron TV's displaying color with an added color base and more of the way of better HD technology than 3D will probably be one of the longrun winners.

 

Most people that are overreacting from the TS opinions are mostly G73Jh users. They just can't accept the fact that the newer G74 overshadows their older tech but of course they won't admit this watch

 

Only because of Sandy Bridge.

Other than that its as flat as a trampled banana featurewise.

 

Beat both of the benchmarks in my sig with your G74 and your clueless claims might actually make some sense, but overshadowing them is very far fetched.

But then again even if you can beat them, my JH cost less than $1000 including all of my upgrades.

It is very sad when people think new means better, it is like comparing a modern day sports car to a 67 Shelby GT 500 and the smile that it will slap from your face

I wouldn't even give him that satisfaction either the 920/940XM can compete with and if pushed high enough could take the entry 2620QM.

 

I think its personal choice for what laptop to use.
For my self, I game, encode lot of HD stuff requiring CPU power and some of there application benefit from CUDA to even accelerate more. I do program few language including CUDA and I think its pretty awesome depending of what you run with it.

So for my case the G74 seems a better choice. Gaming speed is similar to the G73 and I have more power for encoding with the sandy bridge, and can have fun with cuda programming.

For people who wants the better deal for FPS in games, the G73JH seem the best deal imo. 5870 still pack a punch and AMD most likely have resolved most of the issues with it.

Just sharing my thought and experience here.... I have both laptop.

 

I've always wondered if I could swap the 5870M from my JH into a SW....

 

hi all, new here and also pretty noob to all things gpu. I just ran 3dmark 1.1 and got a score of P9118. i'm troubled due to the fact it also says "Your Score is Low Compared to Similar Systems. There may be a problem." And also "Your result has the following problem(s) and will not be shown for example on leaderboards:: Graphics driver is not approved."

Should I be worried and if so what actions can I take to fix whatever might be the issue? Thanks. Oh, and I apologize if i'm interrupting this thread, I was just reading through these forums and saw that you all were discussing something relatable.

 

By 3dmark 1.1 you mean 11? If that so, how you could possibly get p9k points? Not even desktop Sli/crossfire settings reach that score most of the times.
What hardware you're running?

 

Hey Chastity it's been a long time.... Hello from old ICD club member I hope this is the aswer you was looking for... I found, that HD5870M still very good performer. It beats GTX56M at stock clocks and easily can score GTX470M marks, when overclocked.

 

Sorry for the confusion, that was for vantage with the waverunners and spaceships. I've started running 11 last night and got decent scores trying to overclock but then I started running into trouble with my nvidia driver stopping, and now it won't even run with the stock clocks without stopping...using ver 280.26

i'm getting the some kinda nvidia kernel error that stops my drivers from working but it says that it recovers, yet every time I run 3dmark it continues to show this error...

also: Workload Single init returned error message: eva::d3d11::rendering::scene_renderer::render(): draw_depth_task for thread 0: File: device_context.cpp
Line: 442
Function: struct D3D11_MAPPED_SUBRESOURCE __cdecl eva::d3d11::device_context::map(struct ID3D11Resource *,unsigned int,enum D3D11_MAP,unsigned int)

Expression: m_native->Map(resource, subresource, type, flags, &result): DX11 call failed.

Ran out of memory
E_OUTOFMEMORY:

Can someone please help? thanks..

 

You broke it

If your lucky it could be corruption with 3dmark2011. Just try reinstall-it and cross fingers.

Is 3dmark the only 3d apps giving problem?

 

damn..broke what exactly? well, it's the only 3d app I have installed. I uninstalled vantage. And I was finally able to run a mark11 test without the error popping up...got a 2k score...going to run again..

edit: just ran it again without issue...got a 2222..I sure hope those errors don't come back..ran it a couple times now and no errors. i'm hoping this was just a hiccup from trying to overclock it. I don't want to damage anything so I think my hours of overclocking are over. i'll be quite content with a perfectly working stock gpu card. =P

 

Congrats on your rig OP, even though as already stated, I dont think the G74 is a worthwhile upgrade from a G73.

 

Likewise Here!

 

I'm in the market for a G73 or G74 myself, but I still cant make up my mind...

Whoa less than $1000? I see you have a 920xm and those beastly babies are easily $300+ on ebay. Did you buy your g73jh preloaded with 8GB or RAM along with a 1TB HDD? So if you havent spent more than $1000 total the G73 barebones must have cost you anywhere between $500-600 dollars?

 

I managed to get a good deal on the laptop:

JH-BBX05 720qm, 5870m, single 500gb 7200rpm, 8gb 1333 for $650
Extra HDD $30, ICD + new pads $20 + 920XM QS $300. Approx it was a while ago.

Although I have just splashed out on an SSD now and do have an SF-19 Storm but those are added extras.

It all converts into UK £ as well so the price is even better considering what we pay over here for them. The price was good because I risked an out of warranty BB version seller refurb that was also out of warranty of the 3 months as well so it was risky. Modded and abused it and fixed the problems and it runs like a dream. Sometimes its worth the risk. Otherwise go for an SW or SX.

I dont know why I went ATI it was just something about the 5870M that turned me on

 

I wish I can find a deal like that today. I'd definitely jump on it in a heartbeat. You'd think that there would be more deals like that now that the laptop is a bit older and the g74 has been released. But nope. Newegg is selling a refurb g73 with the basic specs i720qm, 6b ram, 1600x900 for $920. Though the RAM is 1066mhz. I could have sworn last time i was looking around (when i wasnt in the market for one yet), i saw that same ad and it had 6gb 1333mhz sticks...newegg must have gimped them down lol.

I cant find a refurb g73 elsewhere for a better price. Thats what I'll be hunting down for the next few days, so I can buy a 920xm with it off the bat.

 

Take a look at the other post I just commented on the love for my JH model runs deep but I still think the G74SX-XA1 is the best deal about at the moment if you want the latest model of Asus G Series and it to perform. $1499.99 for a great setup, chuck in an SSD and your laughing.

http://forum.notebookreview.com/asus-gaming-notebook-forum/602824-buying-laptop-g73-g74.html

 

I've heard that, but I've also read about an nviida exclusive deal for the g-series laptops that the ATI problems helped resolve.

 

1) OHAI Tim4!

2) Once you overclock the 560M 3GB and run stock hardware, then it gets better scores. However, if equalize it with say a 920XM against the Sandybridge....

 

"But if you would rather wait for a more experienced overclocker to tell you the same I will bid you adeu". now thats some funny s/h/i/tt,lol,lol.....

The base clock speed of the CPUs is relatively low, but because of a huge Turbo mode, the cores can dynamically overclock to up to 3.2 GHz (920XM). Therefore, the CPU can be as fast as high clocked dual-core CPUs (using single threaded applications) but still offer the advantage of 4 cores. Because of the large TDP of 45 W / 55 W, the CPU is only intended for large laptops.

considering all the problems the g73jh had,and still has, i would rather have this G74SX BBK7 that i am on right now. the only thing i can say bad about the g74sx bbk7 is that the sound sucks out of it. with all the volumes up, it still sounds like its about 25% to 50% volume. i am jumping of my cell phones ( by the way its the new htc evo 3d cell phone ), HOTSPOT,and to boot i am in the mountains of "TN". this g74sx bbk7 is still fast jumping off my cells " hot spot" signal. i did the same when i had that g73jh and it waz slow useing that same "hot spot" off my cell. the dam g73jh whent threw 4 hard drives and the key pad and mouse pad waz screwing up bad.

o-and by the way, BEST BUY is very aware now of the problems that the g73jh has. theres been alot of returns of the g73jh. mine waz one of the returns. theres even a worker at the BEST BUY store in knoxville,tn that is haveing problems with his to. BEST BUY has a lemon law, by the forth time they have to "replace it". so they did for me with the new g74sx bbk7. and i got money back cuz of last weekend "tax free". the BEST BUY store in knoxville,tn is a great store to deal with.

just to let you know,G74SX BBK7 the base clock speed of the CPUs is relatively low, but because of a huge Turbo mode, the cores can dynamically overclock to up to 3.2 GHz (920XM). Therefore, the CPU can be as fast as high clocked dual-core CPUs (using single threaded applications) but still offer the advantage of 4 cores. Because of the large TDP of 45 W / 55 W, the CPU is only intended for large laptops.

 

Glenn71069: LOL @ all of the copy and pasting.

But really though, what problems does the JH still have? And all of those that are returning it so suddenly, as you claim, are either tech ignorant or lazy. All problems are relatively easy to fix, so what was so bad that you felt the need to return your own? That you couldnt fix or RMA for? 4 HDD's...lol sure that wasnt user error? Yea the atheros sucks, but for 20 dollars you could have gotten a great WLAN upgrade, as well as resolving those issues.

Anyone willing to go the extra mile and fine tune the JH deserves its awesome power, it still has the strongest GPU that ASUS has put into any of its laptops; you sir, IMO, received a downgrade.

 

I agree with this.I had flawless G73JH. Asus should go for GTX570M at least. IMO Mobility 5870 is better than GTX560M.