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    New 14 inch G-Series Notebook

    Discussion in 'ASUS Gaming Notebook Forum' started by kurtcocaine, Sep 21, 2012.

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    Yeah it does look really nice, but honestly, even if I had the cash, between my Samsung Series 7 and the G46 I have now, I am set for awhile. I can appreciate a nice computer and that is one nice computer. That and the price is a little yikes. I spent about that much on my Samsung and have had to send it in twice now. Making me a little leary of spending a lot on a laptop. (I know it's a hit or miss, but honestly from my point of view, I've spent far less on capable gaming laptops to have them last a lot longer.) It just makes me a little leary. Of course granted the Samsung one was the first ever Gaming laptop they made. So mine was a generation one. lol. Anyhow, my new G46 is running like a dream. I wasn't able to get an MSATA SSD or a speedier HDD, but it's not that bad once you get used to the slower drive. I have my G46 hooked to a 24" Samsung Monitor running at 1600x900 to see what I can pull off. (If it play my games well at that resolution, when I need to use the 14" 1366x768 built in it'll be great. lol.) I do plan on swapping out one of my 7.2K RPM HDD's from my Samsung when it comes back, as I have the SSD to put back into it. That will boost G46 a little bit. I can wait that long. (girlfriend convinced me to wait, plus bills are a little more important. haha. Anyhow, yeah, so far no regrets on the G46 purchase, especially for the price of $664+ tax. I think it's a great bang for buck, even if it's the slightly slower cpu. (2.5GHZ i5 vs. the 2.6GHZ i5 that was about $200 more.) It plays everything I wanted and does everything I need it to do. Heck is has me thinking about selling my Samsung laptop, lol. Though I'll probably end up keeping it so that way if one laptop needs to be serviced I have the other one. Anyhow, I'm off to play some games now.
     
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    That 2.4 vs 2.5 probably makes no difference does it? Especially if you snag one of these as a clearance item for 664 at best buy, versus the newer with 2.5 at a couple hundred more. Seriously considering picking one up off clearance as my local bestbuy has one at this price. I use a macbook retina pro, but 664 is a deal.
     
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    Hi Guys,

    I am considering buying the Asus g46vw from Best Buy for $800, but I would like to do some upgrading. Since I am new to modding laptops, I got some basics questions I hope someone could answer. I would like to buy a ssd to use as the main drive while taking out the hdd to put into an enclosure to use as an external drive. I am just wondering if it is possible to use only the ssd instead.

    Thanks!
     
  5. dragonwolf8504

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    I would, you can't get a decent spec'ed standard laptop for that price, let alone anything with good gaming capabilities. This laptop has real good gaming even at 1600x900. I may down the road upgrade it to the 1600x900 display, but for now am happy with the 1366x768 display. And no the 2.4 vs 2.5 isn't worth the extra couple hundred more, specially considering EVERYTHING ELSE is the same! If it was an i7 version for a couple hundred more, I would have jumped on that, but it's an i5, not worth the extra cash for a .1 bump.
     
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    Hello, all.

    Long time lurker on this forum... First time poster.

    I am an avid PCgamer with both an MSI GT60 and an Alienware m18x.I needed something portable while I travel. I picked up this little 14" g46 at Best Buy for $664 and could not be more impressed for the money.

    Sure the screen is only 1366x768, but with the 660m at this resolution, 8GB memory, 750G hard drive, I don't know if you can find a better value in gaming. Diablo III, Far Cry 3, Never Winter Nights all run at high resolution without a hiccup. On the road, this is exactly what I need. More importantly, while watching TV with the wife, I can even game comfortably on my lap!

    Backlit, comfy keyboard, lightweight, good looks, portable, ASUS reputation, etc.... Go out and get this one for $664 at Best Buy while it lasts.
     
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    Need some advice pls :) Should I unplug my laptop when the battery is fully charged and plugged it in when it's low (like 20%) or whenever I start a game? Or is it ok to leave it always plugged?
     
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    Just leave it plugged in, if you keep discharging the battery it will shorten its lifespan (which can be measured in charge-discharge cycles).
     
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    Agreed, The battery will stop charging when it is charged. The laptops of today don't have the issues they did "back in the day". They will actually WEAR out faster if you charge, then unplug and use until dead, then recharge, then repeat. You can keep your laptop plugged in pretty much 24/7 these days. I treat my laptop batteries these days like a ups. If power goes out, I can keep working or such for a little while longer. Occasionally use where I need to. Best thing for the laptop batteries of today is to completely discharge them once a month a fully charge them. If you miss a month it won't hurt it. But do a charge cycle as soon as you can. This helps condition the battery. Some makers have a battery calibration system in the BIOS, that works too. But short answer, just leave it plugged in, until you need to use the battery, you will wear the battery out much sooner if you don't. Biggest thing is maybe not run the laptop heavily while charging, the heat from charging and the heat from pushing the laptop can wear it out quicker as well. Best friend to a laptop is a laptop cooler. It keeps everything cooler than normal, if only a few degrees, still it's better than nothing and every bit helps.
     
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    Hear hear! It is a good buy at this price. The 1366x768 seems to be most people's issue with this laptop. I honestly don't see the issue. Maybe I'm not techy enough, but I know that stuff really looks better at native resolution. I have my G46 tied to an Samsung 24" 1080p Monitor, but running it at 1600x900, and can tell the difference, it's not a big issue. But I honestly, just wanted to see what it would be like using a 900 display on the G46, performance wise. Not bad, but I don't know if I want to do anything to the laptop's screen. 1366x768 is decent for a 14" screen. at 900 (or even 1080 as some people are wishing, I just don't think it would be usable.) Gaming is great at native resolution on the laptop's 14" screen. Great framerates, and can push most if not all games to max with the GTX 660M. Honestly for the money, I'm not complaining. :) Maybe if I spent full price I might have expected a 1600x900 display, but I am extremely happy with the 1366x768. (I value detail, and resolution, my games need to play at the lcd's default resolution and preferably at Max settings. Minimum Resolution is 1366x768. So yeah, this fits the bill perfectly.) As long as it lasts me and doesn't break down on me 2x in a year, not mentioning other laptop. *coughs* Samsung! *coughs* I will be extremely happy.
     
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    Is there any way to get this in the UK? I know Asus have said there's no plan at the moment for release, but the size plus what looks like a great cooling solution really makes me want it baaaad
     
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    I forgot to mention that I'm talking about the G46 :D doesn't it already have a good cooling system? I mean playing games on this without having it plugged in is just .... unplayable.
     
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    It does have a good cooling system and you could get away without a cooler, but every little bit helps, not to mention, no you won't probably play games unless it's plugged in, but sooner or later you will drain the battery (power outage, needed to use it unplugged, whatever.) When charging from dead all batteries get warm and even hot while charging, combine that with the heat output of gaming, and yeah it'll get toasty. What I'm saying is the laptop's cooling system doesn't cool the battery, not many laptop's do. So when you want to game and need to charge the battery, the airflow from a laptop cooler will help. I'm paranoid, so no matter how good a laptop's cooling system is I always try to use a cooler. If anything just to move air around the laptop so it keeps getting fresh air.
     
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    Rather than a cooler, elevating the back of the machine provides most if not all of the benefit, even with a couple of bottle caps :p
     
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    Hi Guys,

    I am considering buying an Asus g46vw, but before I do so, I want to make sure I could upgrade the main drive of this machine. My plan is to replace the 750gb hdd with a ssd, but since there aren't any videos showing this operation, I'm not sure if it is possible. If someone has swapped out their main hdd with a ssd, please let me know!


    Thanks.
     
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    I am also looking at this laptop as a secondary machine and occasional travel companion... I'm still considering this vs. the Lenovo Y400 and figure I'd ask for some opinions. I realize that asking in this thread may result in some biased opinions, but since I am leaning towards the G46VW, that's ok. Here's what I am thinking so far...

    I'm a Mac user, but only recently (about 3 years now) and I like to still keep up with the Windows side (personally and for work). I have plenty of experience with Win7, but next to none with Win8. So the laptop would be used for mostly Windows 8 testing, personal use, and light gaming.

    Asus G46VW

    + Build quality & design

    + Available at Best Buy (This gives me the option to finance, which I don't have to do but having the option is nice since I already have their card. Plus the points are also a nice bonus).

    = Performance is going to be really similar. I know I can eventually SLI the Y400 and even upgrade to the i7 for $40 more, but for my use I would probably not SLI ever, but the i7 upgrade is something to consider.

    - Price. Even at $799 (Clearance price does not appear to be available at mine, at least online. Story may change when I scan it in store), that's still more than what I would pay Lenovo for an i7 750M.

    Lenovo Y400

    + Cheaper. I get an EPP discount through my employer which makes a slightly higher config Y400 about $60 cheaper than the Asus from BB. Also there are the outlet units to configure.

    + Ultra bay upgradability and comes with DVD drive. I believe the Asus does not come with a drive, and not sure if adding one is possible. This is not a huge deal for my since none of the other computers in my house have drives (iMac and MBA).

    - Build quality & design

    - Financing is probably an option, but would mean I would have to open another line of credit, so in this case I would probably pay for it straight up...

    - Wait period. Not a huge deal and there is no hurry, but Asus gets the nod here as I could pick one up in an hour.

    I would like to here some other opinions especially from G46VW owners as there may be some considerations I have missed. I may even just buy both and return the one I don't end up liking (I get 60 day returns at BB, but would have to check Lenovo return policy).

    Thanks in advance.
     
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    @Jed

    XoticPC and GentechPC now have the MSI GE40 codename "Dragon Eyes" in stock and available for customization and shipping.
    It comes stock with the new i7 Quadcore Intel Haswell, Geforce Gtx 760m, HD+900p display, and only weighs 4.5lbs.

    Buying G46 now with its older tech would be silly unless you can grab it for around $600-700 bucks and that's with the crappy low resolution display and only i5.

    If you really want Asus, wait for a refresh of the G46. There's also the up and coming refresh and redesign M14x R3 and Clevo 13" in the coming weeks.
     
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    There are videos on Youtube of a guy tearing it down. He was on this forum towards the beginning when he wanted to add a an Msata drive.

    You can replace everything in the machine except the GPU. So CPU,Screen,Harddrive and add an Msata are all things that can be done to it if you feel the need.
     
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    Thanks for the reply and info. The MSI GE40 looks nice, but more than I want to spend. It does not have to be an Asus, but at the price range (under $800) all I could find was the Asus and the Lenovo.

    If there are other options (or soon to be options) in the under $800 range for light gaming laptops, I would definitely be interested, thanks.
     
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    There are screen upgrades on the asus but the 760M is a lot faster than the 660M.
     
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    I'm pretty sure the Y400 has a 750M which is about (maybe slightly better) than a 660M. If it was the 760M and a cheaper machine, then it would be a no brainer...
     
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    I was more talking about the MSI. You could also wait for a barebone version, I am not sure if there is one yet but the GE series has one usually.
     
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    How do you clean the sweat on the plastic beneath the keybord, on which the hands rest? :)
     
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    Generally just a damp cloth and i use slightly warm water from the sink. Not soaking wet though, just nice sized spot on a cloth.


    You really want to stay away from soaps or anything stringent as it will eat away at the finish so just be careful.
     
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    I believe the best term is mildly moist lol.
     
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    About the GT 750M- NVIDIA GeForce GT 750M - NotebookCheck.net Tech

    About the GTX 760M- NVIDIA GeForce GT 750M - NotebookCheck.net Tech

    Looks like the the GT 750M performs slightly above the GT 650M or GTX 660M. The fastest models with GDDR5 may even match the GTX 670M and the GTX 760M performs on par with a GTX 670M or Radeon HD 8870M.

    That gives a rough idea on how those gpus are compared to what is in the G46.
     
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    And you can reach 670M performance (which is on par with the 760m) by overclocking the 660M its really not that much of a performance boost.. cant even run crysis 3 on ultra.. (not much can granted but still 13 fps.)

    Save your money guys overclock and reap the benefits the G46 can more than handle the heat.
     
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    what's te best tool for overclocking? msi afterburner?
     
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    I use EVGA Preciesion X for basic overclocking, and MSI afterburner is good as well. (I usually always try to download the beta version, to have latest support.) But make sure all the .nets are installed. As it seems the beta of MSI Afterburner doesn't have a .net downloader or such.
     
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    Nvidia inspector is also good for having a clock profile applied and then closing by placing clock shortcuts into your startup folder.
     
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    I need to play with inspector more... I tried initially when I got the laptop and haven't since. Not sure if it was a driver issue or what but did not have much luck...

    While on that topic, has anyone tinkered with a custom vBios for the G46's 660m? I'd sure love to get past the limited 135mhz OC that is limited by stock..........
     
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    I can get 1140 Core and 3000 ram on mine using inspector. Haven't been able to get higher on core with the temps still being arguably low.
     
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    Ok so I bought 2 ssd's for mine a samsung 840 pro 256 and a m4 msata 256 installed them both and there was no way I could install windows on the sata samsung only on the m4 even if I was to install selecting the right drive in the windows setup the boot partion would go on the m4 so I ended up re oppening removing the m4 and install the os with the system oppened and then just reinstall the m4 and now it's all good. I just never had issues like that before. I don't know if anyone else came acrose that?
     
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    That is odd, maybe a formatting issue? It's best to do it with one drive so you are sure the multi boot partition is with the OS otherwise you have to re-install if you take the second drive out.
     
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    It's just the first laptop I have owne that did that last one was the eurocom racer 2 same as the 15" clevo and all it was not like that. No big deal just letting people know it could be an issue, the msata is sata0 and the sata is sata1 and you can't desable eather in the bios to install the os as in windows 7 I installed on both drivers and the sata one would just not boot only came back with no boot files or something. So if you want and sata ssd and a msata ssd and want windows 7 on the sata one just remember install the sata install the os then install the msata or else it will not work.
     
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    Its maybe expecting the accelerator rather than a whole drive there.

    Well at least it can be got around :)
     
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    Hmm, I don't remember having that issue... I went back and forth on OS drives with both Windows 8 and Ubuntu, and used both the mSATA (Crucial 256GB m4) and the 2.5" drives (Samsung 840 Pro 256GB as well as the stock 750GB HDD) as boot drives with operating system without the issues you ran into. My biggest stumbling block was secure boot/UEFI and getting around the embedded windows key... was a learning experience there ha. But, I was able to install the OS on either drive no problem... not sure what the difference was but glad you got it working!
     
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    Linux all work's also here I was just trying to install windows 7 on the 2.5" on brand new drives and could not get ti to install on the 2.5 only msata I have the 210 bios and the MB rev is 2.2 and as mentiond the msata is drive 0 and the sata is 1. so if some one has a msata and a sata blank and try to install win7 on the sata I would be curious to know if it works.
     
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    Does anyone know if they are for sure doing a refresh on the G46 line-up? I know about the G750, but still no word on the G46
     
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    Best buy is greatly reducing the price
    ,so probably
    Sent from my SCH-I535 using Tapatalk 2
     
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    There is no official news yet though or any pictures so there may be a delay.
     
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    Does the G46 use a standard Asus ROG power brick? Just wondering as I think I may have an old Brick that belonged to my G73JH sitting around somewhere and it would be nice to have a second power adapter. I know the power needs to meet. (Watt's, Amps, Voltage.) But wanted to get an idea. Even if I can't find my old power brick I may order a second one, and it would be nice to know.

    Edit: Never mind, just looked at the power adapter and from what I can read, it's a 180W, the G73's and such uses an 150W. Off by 30W. Looks like I will HAVE to buy a power adapter if I want a second one. Just thought I would share.
     
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    I was not even in the market for a laptop and ram across the G46 at Best Buy priced at 450.00. It was an open box model in excellent condition. Looks brand new...Could not resist at this price...First impressions are great. The build quality is top notch and it boots super fast even with the standard drive. The only issue I have seen involves charging it. It seems very picky on how you place the charger in the laptop. I have to place it just right or it will not charge at all. It charges fine once I get it in the right position. I just have to turn it a bit it seems. Windows 8 is definitely not intuitive but I have figured out most things. Seems like a great deal at the current prices...Now to load a few games!
     
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    Is the resolution 1366x768 or 1600x900? How is the sound quality out of the speakers? I am looking at going back to Asus but the sound in my G53 was underwhelming.
     
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    All the G46 models at Best Buy are 1336x768 but this is ok with me since it will give better performance. The speakers sound great to me but I have honestly not even had a chance to play with it much yet.

     
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    You might want to get the DC jack looked at, as it sounds a little flacky.
     
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    I have to agree. Mine wasn't like that.My friend had a Toshiba that started doing that and after awhile of ignoring it, the jack short circuited and blew the motherboard out. Even though it's open box, that issue wasn't listed anywhere I am sure. (Usually Best Buy has any issues listed on the open box sticker. If it wasn't listed "as-is" or stated that the jack was lose then that's on them to most likely fix. (Since you couldn't swap for another one, unless they happened to have another open box. (This is why I try and not buy open box items as a lot of times they can have a grey area on who should do something about an issue.) For $664 plus tax the G46 is still a dang good deal, as most laptops in this price range don't have the graphics power (At least). Or they may not be as portable.

    If you can manage to get Best Buy to fix it or straight swap you for a good one, and still only pay what you did, that's even better. Good luck and hope all end's well for you! :)
     
  48. BigCTM

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    I returned the open box one today and paid 80.00 more for a new one that works perfect. They did a lousy job of testing the open box one.

     
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    Glad you got it sorted dude.
     
  50. dragonwolf8504

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    Sweet! Yeah it looks like they did do a lousy job testing the open box, if they even tested it! Glad you got everything sorted out. It is a great laptop even with the new Haswell tech out, still the G46 is nothing to really scoff at. Especially at the price it is now. Enjoy your new G46 and may it bring you plenty of enjoyment!
     
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