Rückenmark´s VBios

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yep no lockups this time looks like it is working perfect
100/150 0.9V

i think i am not going to like those quick noticable changes on the screen when the memory is changed (watching youtube)
if it will get me more baterry i am going to use it

 

it does

 

...well I know my GPU isnt the best overclocker out there, but ive yet to see someone underclock/undervolt like mine, just went 100/100 @.7v lol

@Ruckenmark, have your tried .6v yet?

EDIT: now running at 100/100 @.6v and holding strong yay

 

For funzies, I made a modded beta vBIOS with the following:

00: 700/1000 @ 1.15v (High Performance AC)
01: 400/500 @ 0.90v (Standard AC)
02: 400/500 @ 0.90v (UVD)
03: 100/150 @ 0.85v (Battery Savings Idle)
04: 300/400 @ 0.90v (Battery Saving Performance)

& Overdrive enabled

MD5 Checksum: 2B388F65A64C58622BEAD76D340F26F8
SHA-1 Checksum: 85939D8287CE8E4C29B46B6BBF3F981C7A00A6B0

File here

 

baterry mode shows me 2:46 hrs defnitelly an improvement
but i am going to stay with gary's vbios and keep the 1000 mhz on memory becouse i don't want ( don't know the real word for that)
but makes my screen shake when changing memory clock ...especially when watching videos on youtube

so the only thing i will change is baterry insted running on 300/1000 to 100/150

cheers for the longer baterry life


one more question
do you think 100/150 at 0.8V will give me more baterry then 0.9V ?

 

This is why I try and match UVD with other modes, to minimize screen flicker

 

chastity this is my suggestion
you've modified garry's vbios and changed baterry to 250/500 and unlocked overdrive
well instead of that it would be better to make a version same like that but instead of 250/500 put 100/150 that would be a perfect vbios at the moment for me
and also a little decrease in voltage if it is possible(i had lockups going from 350/1000 0.9v to 175/250 0.8v
so 0.8v is unstable probably ...don't know about 0.85 if it makes difference

but right now it is working at 100/150 at 0.9V without problems

 

if you read my post (#55) you would see the new vBIOS has 100/150 @ 0.85v and 300/400 @ 0.90v for battery performance

also, p4gh reports 3 hr 4 min @ 94% battery

 

baterry saving performance is activating when i am on baterry and start a game? or else?

chasity i've tried your vbios you've posted right now and you know what happened
at this stage 01: 400/500 @ 0.90v (Standard AC)
first started flickering at startup ...probably normal becouse it's changing clocks
after giving me the desktop when i tried to refresh icons at every refresh started flickering
not only refreshing the desktop also working some regular stuff...
i've tried to go in baterry mode unpliging the cable and it didn't flickered...
so i thought it was the clocks 400/500 and i've opened gpu tool to change them and even when i set them on 400/500 it didn't flickered
but when i pressed restore defaults started flickering again... probably the clocks are not too good for my card

right now i am using those clocks i mentioned that were perfect for me

so i can say i am pretty happy with the baterry saving i got

GARY'S VBIOS + 100/150 0.85V BATERRY CLOCK + OVERDRIVE = MORE BATERRY + SMILE ON MY FACE

thanks for everyone helping
my laptop couldn't be this much good if i didn't knew about this forum

 

you need to use Battery Saving Mode in P4GH or Power Saver in Windows to get the 100/150 clocks automatically...

been on battery since 10:37 pm, and it's 12:11 now, and still have 37% battery

 

Tried Ruckenmark's VBIOS and I'm liking it so far. Very stable, no blinking screen, and here are my temps (Catalyst 10.12, repasted with ICD7, BIOS 209 fan settings):

@700 core 1000 mem = 77 C max
@795 core 1095 mem = 81 C max

 

I got really bored so... here's what I got:

150/100 @ 0.05V

 

I WAS ON 100/150 @ 0.3 V!! oO and than i wrote here:

a bios will rise.......to save us all..

BUT: if you undervolt more than 0.9 V catalyst and other programms like gpuz cant show the true current settings.

and overdrive dosnt work any more.

so i went back to 0.9 V, trust me you cant go deeper without errors. even if it runs stable.

this is a example

@ blaydes99:

nice to hear

 

Something is wrong with your file.
I get different checksums.

I get MD5 29532a6a40d9faa320dd65f38394d8af
and SHA-1 d25d84ac561a3c05be86080d5bd579c4aa3b0e10

:cry:

 

So after much testing I ended up with these clock/voltages:
700/1000 1.05V for 3D app
405/1000 0.004V for 2D app
450/750 0.003V UVD
200/400 0.002V Power Saver

Tested all clock/voltage combination with Furmark for over 20 minutes each, all reported stable.

 

are the voltages really true?
and btw do you use overdrive?
i've never used it so now i've decided to give it a try
i put my clocks to 820/1100 (stable)

so what's going to happen now...when i play games the clocks are gooing to increase to that limit automatically? and after the game decrease?

when i set the overdrive the memory clock imeddiatelly jumped to 1100 in 2D
?

so is overdrive working properly or not?

 

Yes, they are real (I'm running on 0.004V as I type), but I have my doubts about them, read below.

You're probably still running that requires 3D for it to not revert back to 2D clocks.

On a side note, I noticed something about the PowerPlay states.
I don't think State 6 or Clock info 03 controls the Performance setting of PowerSave mode. It is the profile used when vari-bright is enabled (no idea how to enable this), so it is essentially useless. There is only one state for PowerSave. UVD tends to over-ride any state that has a lower-clock than the UVD clock. Another thing worth mentioning is, I'm not really sure what we're doing is actually making the 5870M lower its voltages, AMD GPU Tool still reports the same (0.9V minimum), and GPU-Z seems to report them fine but I have doubts after reading the tutorial on using RBE. It states that if there are no supported voltages listed, the ones used for those state are what you get, nothing more nothing less.

 

GPU OBSERVER anyone?

 

still didn't get the real answer
DOES OVERDRIVE WORKS LIKE IT SHOULD BE?
OR CLOCKS GETS STUCK ?

 

Overdrive works, it overclocks to your pre-set speeds when in 3d mode, then goes back down when it 2d or you change out of performance mode. Clocks/voltage shouldnt get stuck

 

thx crappy alloy, it was the heat of the moment, telling me ..my heard..blablabla..

i kown i love you finaly someone who understand me

 

i've never used overdrive this is my first time putting vbios with unlocked overdrive and i read somewhere that it gets stuck ... i am experiencing the same
when i enable overdrive 820/1100 the memory will jump imediatelly at 1100 and after restart same thing ...
overdrive sucks for me

 

Lol oh and im running 100/100 @.01v now

Hmm what drivers are you on? Im on 10.10 and it seems to work just fine, then again ive only used it a couple of times...

 

i am on 10.10e

 

You should be happy to know you can actually run anything below 400Mhz at around 0.002v-0.004v (0.001v crashes everything and I presume its getting too precise for the voltage regulator to control so its just giving 0volts);o.

On a side note, I've noticed significant temperature drops with low clocks, and not so much with low voltage.

 

Haven't flashed with these vbios yet, as I have crashes with Firefox (Minefield 4.0b9 x64) when clocks go down to far. Been sitting at 200/400 without issue (Manually set via AMD clock tool shortcuts).

Has anyone else experienced this? Should also occur when using Firefox 4 beta's if I remember right, but it has been a while since running beta's.

 

I just know that the GPU chip hates certain memory clocks and cause glitches/lock-ups. The range of 151-300 causes weird lock-ups or glitches, anything above or below seems to be fine (it has nothing to do with voltage).

 

I now know why the Asus tech used 405 vs 400 clock setting. (If using mine @ 400, try scrolling in a window with holding down the left trackpad button, and trackpad with another finger going up/down) I modded my vBIOS to 405/500, and the issue went away.

@CrapAlloy: 0.1v? I don't think so.... Also, AMD GPU Tool will report any voltage settings that any of the profiles use. So if you do not have any with 0.80v,you will not see it.

So if you are using mine, redownload at the same link.

 

@Chastity, well whats the best way to determine the voltage im actually running at then? I set it to .01v in batterysaver in RBE and now the AMD GPU clock tool as well as GPU observer are reporting that as correct. How about the guy that claims .002v? lol

 

Just quoted that from my previous post, I forgot a 0 in there. Anyway, now it runs at 0.002 @ 200/400, 0.003 @ 450/750 (UVD), 0.004 @ 405/1000 (2D), 1.05 @ 700/1000 (3D). I have no idea how valid GPU-Z reports of the voltage are, but I'm hardly seeing temperature drop with extremely low voltage compared to say... lowering the clocks. Will post screenshots of me benchmarking it shortly.

 

i dont get it, why these discussions, use my version and be happy. what do you think i was talking all about as i got the problems with my second release?

but please if you want do it

 

Easy, I wanted different values.

Anyhoo, I figured out why HellCry has issues with PowerPlay. If the memory settings between 3D and 2D Performance on AC don't match, then you get video evil when doing certain events in Windows, like resizing a Window. For some stupid reason, PowerPlay kicks it up to 3D settings, then back down to 2D, repeatedly. Result: screen fluctuations gone wild. You get this even with doing something terribly resource hungry as say, hitting PrintScreen. (I hope you like sarcasm, we got plenty tonight.)

So I modded the AC and UVD memory settings to match 3D on memory to avoid stupidity like that, and updated the checksums accordingly.

 

no offence ruckenmark but chastity's vbios is better ...
i am not running HERS or HIS but i don't want that flickering i've mentioned...
actually HERS or HIS vbios didn't worked for me but probably for someone will
try to do a perfect vbios without noticing the flickering or whatever you call that

 

I'm thinking that the UVD clocks only kick in if the clocks the Chip is running right now is lower and it detects say... Flash Acceleration. If the clocks currently being used are higher the UVD profile is overlooked. I was looking at the UVD status by watching youtube videos under powersave, and it clocked up to 450/750. However, when on performance mode, even when watching a youtube video, it stays 405/1000, so I guess the memory clock for UVD just have to match clock info 03 and 04.

 

Do you all had temp drops with lowering the voltage?
Imho, the Asus 5870m is voltage locked to 0.95 and 1.15.
Actually, i have a G73-TZ207V here, next to mine Medion X7811 (GX740 barebone).
I'd modded the vBIOS of the x7811 since mid 2010 and therefore know the differences. I've changed the 700/[email protected] (stock!!!) to 0.95V with a noticeable temperature drop. Also the idle clock setting - now 100/[email protected]. But there we have it. I get the same temp, when i set this to 0.8V. So, there is a voltage wall inside the cards. This explains the kidding 0.00x values of some freaks around here You wouldn't get a picture, if the cards use such settings.
The MSI vBIOS seems to be more friendly in modding. I guess, there is a range in which the voltage can be set (maybe 0.8 - 1.15V).

So, from this knowledge, i've tried to mod the insane idle clocksetting (500/1000???) at the G73. Changed it to 125/100. Works (Check clock combination with gpu clock tool before!). Temperature at 43-47°C (cycling gpu fan on/off).
But then I saw this thread and investigated time into some new tests.
But the results are like i thought.

Idle:
125/[email protected] - Fan 1 min off - 30 sec. on
125/[email protected] - Fan 1 min off - 30 sec. on

Furmark (10 min):
700/[email protected] - (TSS_0 > 81°C, TSS_1 > 93°C, TSS_2 > 86°C)
700/[email protected] - (TSS_0 > 81°C, TSS_1 > 93°C, TSS_2 > 86°C)

700/[email protected] isn't working on this G73 -> black screen.

 

Yes I remember Gary saying the Asus engineers said the voltages on the Asus 5870M were hardware locked and the only way to change the voltages was to do hardware modifications. And that the voltages we see on GPU Observer etc are not correct.
- But I don't know, I haven't seen any changes to temps or battery life by changing the voltages on RBE.

And really, if anyone believe frosty5689 then you got rickrolled hard. His numbers are so ridiculously idiotic, that yes, it would be the most epic rickroll if you believed him for even a .05 ms.

 

Thx for the last 2 post´s, this is what i tryed to tell you all.

 

OK.

FYI. Just placed the G73 on my NC-3000 on low fan speed (30cm unhearable).
Idles with 125/[email protected] (sure 0.95) while gpu fan is off for 3:30 minutes (43 fan off to ~47 fan on). Then fan turns on and cool down again to 43°C in 20 seconds!
Nice
There is only the loud spinning Momentus XT.

Without NC-3000 the fan cycling is shorter (1 min off / 30 sec on).
I've been using BIOS 209.

But why Asus always wants to play a special role and uses proprietary graphic cards and a locked vbios?
My X7811-5870m idles (with a backcover mod) with 100/[email protected] at 38°C! I guess, with this, the g73 would be silent in office for long time.
Uh, i was dreaming...

 

I haven't found a laptop with a mid-level GPU or higher that is as quiet as the G73jh at idle. I did wish and I got it.

 

I did state my speculation of the voltage being false. It was fun while people believe it.

1.05 does seem to work though, as AMD GPU Clock Tool actually reports the correct voltage, tried setting 700/1000 to 1.05 and AMD GPU Clock Tool reported the VDDC as 1.05 instead of 1.15 as seen on all other voltage modifications.

 

"There is only the loud spinning Momentus XT"

Oh, I thought it was the fan, but then I put my good ear down and listened, and shure, it was the XT, ftw... This thing is really loud.

Sadly my 500 GB WD Black died after 3 months, too hot I guess.

But Ruckenbackers bios is working absolutley okay here, no prolbelms...

Servus, Danke Schön!

 

Did you try updating the firmware to the latest?

 

Say again?

 

ok... dumb question. After updating with a modded vbios like this, is the change in voltage and whatnot seemless? I mean, do you have to select the change or is it automatic? What changes to the power profiles, if any, are needed?

I just want to make sure that I get the full power of the video card for gaming, but some extra battery life would be kinda nice...

 

high performance is untouched... so you won't loose performance in gaming
we are trying to get more baterry life and cooler temperatures in other profiles

 

So it's seemless? I can update the vbios, run on battery with longer life, then plug it in and get the full power for gaming? All without changing a setting or profile? Or do I need to select the high power profile to game, then change to a different one for the battery life.

Sorry if it's a stupid question, but I've not changed any settings - I just leave it on Power4Gear High Performance as it's 99.9% a gaming used laptop. But that .1% time it's used for OTHER than gaming it might be nice to have the battery life. I just need to make sure it's something that will work for a non-computer user like my wife ;-) Otherwise I'll look into a netbook she can have as her own.

 

jeahr you will get the full performance and much more because with our mods you can overclock!

 

he can overclock either way with amd gpu tool
or did you meant for the overdrive?

 

jep overdrive