Thermal paste for G73JH GPU

Yea sure, lemme get done with this 3dmark06

 

Idle temps sitting at my desk

 

Just redid my TIM on the GPU.

I might just add that Chastity and Jody's posts had helped me quite a bit.

It was definitely not as difficult as people make out. Anyone who s wanting to do their own repasting, i say go for it. If you follow the BTO disassembly, and take it slow, you will have no issues.
Only thing to watch out for is the keyboard, and go slow. i took 2 1/2 hours and just went slow, and there was no complications.

Temps are as follows with IC Diamond 7:

Mem I/O temps@ idle are 53C. (Previous 66C)

SC2 81C (Prev 94C)

Furmark 20mins 84C (prev 97C)

Very happy with the results.

Id like to say thanks again to the active NBR members, i have read through many threads and have gained a lot of information.

RL

 

Here are my temps for under load. Look at max temp on gpu-shark and high on coretemp. Those come from two back-to-back runs of 3DMark06.

 

Can you post your ambient temp?

 

Already did. Look at the big picture (LOL no pun intended) previous to my last post.

 

Sorry can't see it. I can se only your idle. What was your romm temp when you got these readings? BTW very nice GPU temps!

 

Hmm have no idea, let me try to find a thermometer

 

Thanks! I want to apply AS ceramique too. But my room is 30C now. Did your thermal paste passed its curing period? It's only 25h for AS Ceramique(according specs)

 

74.8 Fahrenheit. It's been the same all night, so no fluctuation from when i posted idle temps

 

No it hasn't been 25h yet, but getting close to 19h now

 

Happy you! My room temp is 86F.

 

Yea, and I live in Arizona in the middle of the summer lol. Bad time and place for overclocking air-cooled components, especially laptops

 

I live in AZ too.Who pays your AC bill? I keep my place at 79* and the APS bill is still high. Even if my AC unit ran all night, I don't think it could cool my 1200 SF condo down to 75*.

 

My house is pretty efficient, it's been remodeled a few times to help with the task of retaining the cool air, keep your shades closed during the day, energy efficient windows, improved seals on doors etc.

 

Hello to everyone!!!
I am happy to report about successful repaste with AS5. Method I used was wrap plastic bag around finger and spread paste evenly with finger.
My config:
Drivers ATI 10.7a
BIOS 211
Ambient temp 27C
Glad to point that my laptop is idling at 53C TSS1 in entertainment mode(300/1000). High performance gives 3-4C higher
Here are some screenshots of tests after repaste.

3DMark06


FFXIV


Heaven 2.0


My furmark max now 86-87C on TSS1.(Haven't made screenshot sorry )
And all of that at 27C!!!

P.S Thanks for all who posted in this thread sharing their experience.
As stated in AS5 specs
"Arctic Silver 5:
Break-in period: 200 hours (Break-in period will occur during normal use.)
Temps will drop several degrees over the break-in period measured with a thermal diode in the hottest part"
Hope that temps will decrease a little more

 

Nice, you will have to fill us in over the next few weeks as time progresses. Good ol' AS5 FTW

 

Thanks NGX! I will!

 

Pretty good, I redid mine with MX3 and get 60C idle in a 27C room. I didn't apply it all that great though so I could probably get a few degrees cooler but I'm not going to sweat it. Will be testing gaming and furmark later.

 

My furmark temps 5 min run.


Waiting till AS5 will break-in and hope for couple degrees drop

 

It will rise much more, 5 minutes furmark is way too little to see peak temps.
I get them after around 15-20 minutes (to make sure 30 minutes should do to see where temperatures level).
I repasted 3 times with MX-3 and cant get it under 93C on furmark and 56C on idle (300/1000).

And theres a great review/comparison of all the pastes here:
Between Cold and Fire

Go to the GPU tests. It seams IC Diamond is far from being the best choice (or at least not any better than the other top choices) for GPUs. But when you see 1C difference between the top pastes id say it doesnt really matter which of those you choose.

On a related note, has anyone found any tests that would show the impact of ambient temperature on the gpu temperatures (same PC/Laptop tested at different temperatures)? Or would anyone with a smaller room and an AC unit be willing to do a test at 20C vs 28C for instance (idle and 30min furmark runs)?

 

Hmm, I may be willing to give it a shot

 

Thanks for good link! Maybe later I will try to run furmark for 30-40 min. Anyway, my temps gone down significantly. On stock paste I would hit 95C in 2-3 min of furmark. Now I am idling 5C lower, and all tests running cooler. And let's don't forget about AS5 curing time, that can decrease temps for couple degrees more.
IMO. Asus made great machine. It's cooling system truly "cool under fire" and it's "whisper quiet" even with bios 211 with good TIM properly applied.

 

Even with the best paste jobs here it still cant match the competitions cooling systems and people seeing around 90C (88C lowest by Chastity if i recall correctly) max in furmark is MUCH higher than what youd see with furmark on a Clevo, where youd get 10C lower idle and load temps with a proper paste job (same with any gaming) so its definetely not the best cooling system - i mean the heatsink has little copper and its puny compared to the big Clevos full copper heatsinks so its no mystery why. But it is silenter, especially in idle (at full load it comes close to the others and its also bothering me a bit).

 

Agreed. I am not stating that G73 have best cooling system. I said, that untill temps are in acceptable range it's ok. My max gaming temps now 80C/85C/81C. at 28C. With cooler ambient my GPU will cool down 5-6C. I am stating, that G73 is good gaming machine in the end. With good cooling and good price.

 

It would be a good machine IF AT LEAST the GSOD and Keyboard/Touchpad conflict issues would be solved. Than theres still a few minor bugs, but those arent so critical. The cooling is fine (considering the price you cant really expect such nice heatsinks as Clevos i know) but IF you have a good TIM application, but seeing how many people get poorly pasted ones out of the factory or even after a RMA overheating is still a major issue (silly reason to have it overheat becouse someone was lazy when applying TIM too) - i mean not many end users have the skill to dissassemble the notebook properly and repaste themselves and they shouldnt have to!

 

85C with ambient of 23C (209 BIOS)
80C with AC stream (209 BIOS)
77C with ambient of 23C (211 BIOS)

 

The D900F still ran significantly cooler with the Mobility 5870 (and i did my tests in a 27C ambient with no such thing as AC stream blowing in it, i mean how practical is that?) and similar heatsinks are used in the other Clevos as well .
And you are producing so low temperatures as noone else - you must have got a real cool running GPU out of these Asus ones - lucky pick i guess. Its nice to see someone got it working cooler, but generally this laptop has the gpu running much hotter and its normal considering the difference in heatsinks.

77C peak on 211 vs 85C on 209? Can you link me this 77C furmark run cause i must have missed it?
I had 3 different gpus in mine and i took it apart 5 times trying to lower temperatures in every way and the best i could do was 93C at 27C ambient. And i know what im doing since i have taken apart many notebooks and tried pretty much every application method i could think of. With the Clevo i didnt even have to try hard to get it working under real cool - i mean it idled 10C lower than this one, not to mention around 20C lower at load...

 

you can't really compare the clevos and alienware with the because you are paying for the beefier components with those. I'm not sure but they probably use bigger and higher rpm fans plus full copper heatsinks so they should be way cooler. Of course they will be louder at full load as well.

 

1) The AC stream was an accident. I ran my first FM's on my bed, while the AC was on, which is in the AC path. I since moved it to a new location.

2) I didn't post the pic of the 77C one, just posted about it. I was testing the new fan profile of 211. I can always redo it.

3) There have been a couple of other ICD7 users post similar results to mine, with maybe a 1-3C higher result, so I do not think it's uncommon. I find it really odd you get that high of temps.

 

I really cant believe it could perform as good as the competition becouse of the following reasons:
- The heatsink is much smaller compared to the others,
- The heatsink has very little copper and much more alluminium compared to the others (so the heat transfer cant be as efficient - especially for the vRAM chips which have contact with alluminium instead of copper),
- The fans seam to work at lower rpm,
- The fan intakes are much smaller than at the other laptops (so the airflow is considerably lower - i can tell its so just by putting my hand at the vent when its at full blast and comparing it to my previous laptops, but it is consequently not so loud as many other laptops which i do like).

And i have (re)pasted cpus and gpus at least a hundred times building/upgrading/moding PCs and laptops for myself, friends and family acquaintances so i have got the hang of it and i know i can do a good job and i had 3 different GPUs for this laptop, so its hard for me to believe i got 3 bad eggs and the rest would be so cooler (id sooner believe there are a few cool exceptions out there than) and i opened it up 5 times trying a few methods of application and saw the results after reopening - the paste was nicely spread and the application just enough but not too much to be gushing out at any side of the die so i can tell you it cant really be improved (the pads also have good contact and i also tried replacing them with new ones) and i used two different tubes of a high end paste (MX-3) so it also cant be a bad tube of TIM. My ambient is around 6-7C higher than yours, but i still cant believe that could explain a ~10-15C difference in full load temps. I just cant get it below 93C peak temperature with furmark..

Its just my expirience and simple logic looking at the hardware you should see it just cant be as good - i know you get what you pay for...
Anyway im out of ideas on this one. I am uncomfortable looking at the temperatures, but ive done what i can and i guess ill have to deal with it. I dont think ill keep it longer than 2 years knowing myself, so if it fries ill just replace it...

 

Mine performs the same as yours heatwise with regard to the environmental temperature.

That means:

- original video BIOS;
- BIOS 209;
- clocks always on 700/1000
- no external cooler

 

Here's the Furmark you requested, Hellcry.

Apparently, based on what you just typed, is that I use the drop method, and you spread your paste. Maybe you've been doing it wrong all these years.

 

Do not do a thermal repaste it voids your warranty.

 

I use the drop method (i know the line/smiley/spread one gets more air in between i watched all the reviews with video tests about which method is the best so believe me i know all the faults with other methods), i was refering to the quantity, but a bit more or less (i made sure it wasnt too little or too much though) only resulted in around 1C difference...

I really dont know what you have there but again i cant get such a cool GPU just as i cant get one that doesnt GSOD on newer drivers. The ambient could raise my temps some, but i just cant believe it would be 15C.

@bertio
You are unfortunate, but many of us have had no problems with repasting or replacing components ourselves, you just have to arrange it all before you do something like sending your laptop in so you make sure something like that doesnt happen.

 

This is bullcrap and you know it. When I had an arguement with a Clevo W870CU owner we both ran Furmark extreme burn for 20 minutes. His highest temp was 87C and mine was 88C. So I call bullcrap and you know it.

And you also know as well as everyone else, the Asus cooling is designed to be quiet whereas Clevo don't care at all about noise level.

 

Go look at my D900F tests. I did the thermal paste and pads myself so i know it was done properly. I cant vouch for someone who i dont know how he had the paste done. Thats a fair comparison - a well pasted g73jh vs a well pasted Clevo and both at the same ambient temperature (in the exact same room on the exact same surface). And i already said that Asus is not as loud im not arguing that, but Clevo isnt the bad one when it comes to noise either, theyre the middle option there and the loudest ive had is definetely Alienware.
Just looking at the heatsinks should be enough to see the difference, but believe what you want.

Im more interested how there can be such a difference between mine and Chastitys GPU temps, and id still love it if someone can do a 30min furmark run at 20C and 28C if they have an AC in their room and post the results.

 

ARE YOU SERIOUSLY KIDDING ME?!?!?!?

You are comparing the bulkiest, massive 17" notebook EVER MADE to a the G73 designed to be as quiet as possible and the best budget performance notebook?

You're comparing a monstrosity that uses anything between 3 to 4 massive fans to a G73? Are you actually serious?

You've got some serious issues with the G73 and any notebook that isn't a monstrosity that shouldn't ever be considered a notebook by any standards.

For others who are wondering why I am just floored by his comparison. This is a D900F...

 

I wonder if some people could be getting a defective heat pipe. I've seen heat pipes fail in some Dell notebooks (they lose their semi-vacuum and contents). This would obviously cause a big temp jump.

Also there is the fact that GPU power output varies. Every die is different and I'm sure there are outliers.

 

Only one fan is used to cool the gpu in there and the gpu heatsink is the same for the smaller Clevo models. The two (or three as the test model had em like in your photo) other fans are for the desktop cpu and memory and thats irrelevant. You just cant admit when youre wrong.

 

I had such a broken heatpipe on a cpu heatsink and i can tell you if anyone had that theyd have an overheating machine no matter how good paste job they had.

 

Speaking of heatsinks, what's wrong with aluminum? Copper can move heat faster, however, aluminum can give up it's heat to another medium faster, like air. The heat given off by memory chips is no where as hot as say the GPU, and may not need copper.

 

Plus doesnt Copper retain its heat longer and is more stubborn to spikes in temperature.

 

There is nothing wrong with aluminum. MSI uses aluminum.

Here is a secret. Clevo uses aluminum for the entire heatsink for GTX 480M just like Asus did for HD5870M. Aluminum with copper heatpipe, just like Asus. But we can keep that a secret

 

My favorite heatsink ever was the Thermaltake Blue Orb

Copper core with Aluminum fins!

 

Not a lucky pick, I have even lower temps....

No it does not.

Hellcry does not like to admit when he is wrong, and further more no matter what anybody says he will continue to bash on the G73JH. Seems to me like he argues for the sake of arguing....

 

No I'd say you can't admit when you are wrong. You are comparing a 4 fan D900F idiocy with a 2 fan, quiet G73.

Considering the performance of the cooling system and how quiet it is, the G73 to me and I'm sure for many others, simply has the best cooling system ever made for a gaming machine.

Quiet and gaming notebook has never been accomplished before. Bash G73 all you want, but you won't persuade me. Clevo has nothing on the G73 cooling system.

I don't care if my G73 even running Furmark remains in the 80s, for me, fan noise is the most annoying part of a high performance gaming machine. You can praise Clevo all you want, but you won't find a fan of your rants from me.

 

The only annoying part is when I am in class and secretly playing Starcraft2 while the professor is teaching.... suddenly my fans kick in and everybody looks at me lol

 

What temps you getting?

 

I posted screenshots of idle and load temps here. Page 2