Thermal paste for G73JH GPU

O RLY? found them later in the thread, like page 4

 

Looking at your 54C idle in a 74F room I guess I get the same temps because I idle at 60C in a 80F room and hit 85C with load.

 

Oh hahaha yea I have more replies per thread on

 

Yea sounds about right, I'm really happy with my temps after re-applying the TIM. I never go above 90c now no matter the circumstances.

 

As you requested HellCry

My ambient now 23.5C And still lower to come(Passed only ~15hrs of AS5 curing time)

 

My Starcraft 2 temps.

Ambient gone up to 25C

 

Not bad

I'm doing a bit of gaming tonight, I'll post my temps after a good 3 hour session.

 

Hey, Chastity couple questions about ICD7 for you. Did you wait for 10 mins(solvent evaporation time) before putting heatsink back, as stated in IC manual? Does ICD7 has expiration date(How long can I keep it in unopened syringe)?

 

I can only say OMG. Show the GPU heatsink which we are talking about and is actually relevant to our discussion - its a big chuck of COPPER ONLY with 1 FAN.
Thats part of a huge CPU heatsink and that alluminium part only touches COILS and its the ONLY alluminium part that is there to hold the screws to secure the heatsink down since alluminium is harder, it doesnt cool any such important thing as a vRAM chip. And if youre showing the CPU heatsink, show the whole thing, where its evident there are two huge copper heatpipes (3 pipes together) leading from the cpu to two (or three) fans to cool down a desktop i7. Even if something were cooled by aluminium, the sheer size and density/number of fins allows for a much better heat dissipation so there is much better transfer on such a heatsink. Theres also the fact that the GPU heatsink has no heatpipes leading away from the heatsink to the fins like in the G73JH, so the dissipation is better from that as well. We arent having a discussion on how to cool a desktop CPU in a notebook are we - becouse Clevo is the only one whos managed to do that so there nothing to compare with anyway.

Heres a more representative picture:

Full size:

Taken down is the CPU heatsink and you can see theres copper where its touching anything and 3 large heatpipes leading both ways from the cpu to two massive fin assemblys to cool the desktop i7 down.

Inside is the GPU heatsink with 1 fan (and that one fan is INAUDIBLE, all the noise in the D900F was made by the fans cooling the CPU) and its ENTIRELY MADE OF COPPER and just as thick as the CPU heatsink. Want to post a comparison of the puny G73JH heatsink now?

Just quit it since you dont even know how its built and what cools what. Ive had it and taken it apart so i know exactly whats cooled where and how the heatsinks look compared to these in a G73JH. We are just going in circles. Youre praising the G73JH as the best thing ever and im pointing out it isnt so so we arent going to agree. Theres a difference in price so its understandable they didnt afford such heatsinks in the G73JH and the G73JH is silenter of course since it doesnt have a DESKTOP CPU TO COOL and since you said its a monstocity i just have to say this - THE G73JH IS BIGGER IN DIMENSIONS Except Thickness (a very small difference there). Be a little more constructive now and if you have an AC in your room perhaps run two 30min furmark runs one at 20C and one at 28C ambient so we can finally get a decent comparison on the effect of ambient temperature on GPU temperatures.

 

Nice furmark Tim4, but interesting enough i get the same temperatures playing Starcraft 2.

 

Time to put you on ignore. Fine I was wrong. Thanks for showing me heatsinks, fans and copper fins that are nearly the size of Asus G1 notebook.

But reason I'm putting you on ignore. Like always you never miss a chance to bash the G73 and praise a Clevo. I don't need to read rants of a person who continuously complain about their notebook while praising another, but for whatever reason keep the notebook instead of the one continuously praising.

Why you are using a G73 and not a Clevo completely confounds me.

It's hard to even read any of your posts when you don't even seem to understand why I and others bought and enjoy the G73. An amazing gaming machine that runs very cool, 88C extreme Furmark while remaining incredibly quiet. For me and others, this makes this a superior cooling system to the monstrosity you posted a giant picture of.

And no I'm not going to feed your need to bash G73, I've already posted plenty of Furmark screenshots in the past for more than 20 minutes in March, May when I did not have AC on.

Since I do not want to see any of your complaints, just hope, you ditch the G73 and surround yourself with Clevos. Or I guess keep on trolling G73 owners and have fun complaining to whoever may want to continue to read your never ending G73 bashing.

 

Since you have a knack to get me started i just have to point out the obvious. I never said its lighter or more portable but the cooling IS BETTER. What is so ridiculous about it again? If youre going to say its huge ITS SMALLER THAN THE G73JH, but it is heavyer. Its also louder becouse it has to cool a desktop cpu. It doesnt flex though and access to components is so nice - just take off the back plates. It also doesnt have any problems like the Asus. The price is very good for what you get in my oppinion.
It doesnt come with a mobility 5870, but i put (more like crammed since i had to cut up the heatsink to do it) one in there to get DX11. The 9280 (which i had) comes with a 285m and the 9285 comes with a 480m.

I have a G73JH becouse i decided i dont need a desktop cpu in a laptop anymore since i built a new desktop and since i wanted something silenter now. I dont hate the notebook, but i do have a grudge with Asus for not fixing the issues in decent time and acting as they did. When the issues are gone i will enjoy it and ya for the future i know what im going to buy. Im only making a realistic comparison im not bashing either.
Of course im pulling the screenshots and all the tests out of my arse. Im just here to confuse everyone.

Ignoring you would probably be best.

 

You are running BIOS 209 right? I am at 211. Maybe my furmark runs cooler that your, because new cooling policy in 211.

 

Perhaps its so... I just cant bring myself to use 211 since one of the main reasons behind owning this laptop is it being silent and 211 just ruins that for me.

 

I can't hear anything from fans as I have sound from games. In idle I can't hear the difference.

 

I hear the difference in idle - on 211 when it goes back from full load to idling at around 57~58C the fans dont turn down as much as on 209. I am very noise sensitive and my room is real quiet so i notice it. For when i game 211 doesnt bother me that much either since i wear headphones.

 

Yea same here, I'm almost always wearing headphones when I do anything graphic intensive so I never notice the noise. Either way, I'm used to fans running around me all the time so it prob doesn't stand out as much to me as others.

 

Hi,
today i was re-pasted GPU with AC MX-2. Temps before re-paste was around 73C at idle and 98-104C at full load, room temp was 26C.
It is much better now. With same room temp.

 

Nice job on the repaste.

 

The G73 has two though. So if one breaks it may not be the end of all things, but I'm sure it would hit shutdown temp with no problem in some cases.

 

I think it's more about getting that heat to the heatsink fins (by the fan) than anything else. A third or fourth heatpipe would do wonders.

Heatpipes do seem to be usually made from copper. That could just come down to copper being easier to work with for them. The metal isn't the main means of heat transfer in a heatpipe.

 

Or just do it like Clevo - make the heatsink in one big chunk so the fins are on it and you dont have to transfer the heat over the heatpipes to some distant fins.
It just might be that one defective heatpipe wouldnt be enough to cause a shutdown in every scenario, but it would still be real bad.
And thats some old Furmark version your using oqix.

 

AVP3 all max except AA after one hour play at 800/1100 69C.

 

I'm running 211 and my g73 runs cool enough to teeter between the full and low fan speeds while running FurMark. In games like SC2 the fans never even get up to full speed. Then again your climate is a good 3-4C warmer than here in Washington .

 

I am using 211 bios. Newer version of furmark:



I am going to try cat 10.8.

 

Try at 1920x1080 windowed with extreme burning, I top out around 88C with those settings.

 

Sooooo, can anybody else answer my question?

 

Well, I did wait for the alcohol to dry, yes. As for an expiration, I don't see any on the packaging, and diamonds don't go bad IIRC.

 

I waited for the recommended 10 minutes before I squished the ICD bead with the heatsink.

 

Thanks for your answers. I have ordered some ICD from ebay. Planning to change TIM on my desktop CPU and GPU.

 

One of the benefits of ICD 7 according to Innovation Cooling is superior reliability and durability over the competition. But what that means, not sure. I haven't found any statements that say something along the lines of lasting 3 years etc.

But they do give an explanation of why their product is more reliable and resilient and longer lasting.

 

Diamonds are a girl's best TIM

 

You are very right, there are special gases in heatpipes to aid in the heat transfer.

How are those temps coming along now that it's been awhile Tim4?

I lol'd

 

Well just finished doing my Re-Paste job. I followed the video on YouTube by BIO-TEC. Only problem I came across was the Speaker wire. Be very careful on taking out the wire. I ended up yanking the pin off the motherboard :-(. Besides that everything went well. I used Artic Silver 5. My temps use to run up to 107' and now they get up to 100'. Not the best like other people but much better then before. For AS5 I used a line 3/4 the size of the GPU down the center. For testing temps I use Furmark Extreme Burn, MSAA x8, Post FX, Stability Test.

 

That's a pretty fail repaste IMO.

 

All that hard work in taking apart your laptop, breaking something, repasting, putting it back together, furmark testing, registering for nbr, posting your results, logging back on and reading the very next post... priceless

Sorry man ouch. you can do better now that you know how to take it apart.

 

You should use "credit card" method or just distribute paste evenly with your finger(wrap your finger with plastic bag).

 

In the case of the heatpipes built for PC cooling, I believe they just use water and adjust the air pressure inside the heatpipe to control the evaporation point of the water.

 

Don't use AS5. It's way to tricky.

Just use the normal quality brands of non conductive and non silver paste and you'll be good to go whether you use the dot or smear technique.

 

Yeah im just going to order Diamond 7 and see how much better my temps will get. Seems much easier to just put a dot on instead of spreading

 

Putting a dot is easier if you know exactly how much you need.

 

I'm to scared to do this. I think I'll just let asus take care of this for me

 

This is why many people test their first few applications to see if they are getting the proper coverage and without air pockets.

Just keep some cleaner handy and apply the TIM several times until you feel comfortable with the amount you are using and the coverage. Once you feel comfortable, do it one last final time and seal the machine up.

You spend 1 hour taking the machine apart and end up mutilating your keyboard, you can spend an extra hour figuring out how to optimally apply the TIM. No one's ever good their first time... trust me.

 

Call Ken @ Gentech IMO.

 

I guess its not free?

 

No, but with Asus it may arrive worse than it already is.

 

LMAO!! Thanks for your advice.

 

I haven't done this myself, Xellon, but I think you can call Asus and get an RMA number. Then ask them if you can take it to an Authorized Service Center for the work. If GenTech, Xotic, or whoever you want to use is an authorized repair center or whatever they call it, they can get paid from your RMA number and you won't have to pay. You might have to pay shipping. I don't really know but I would call and ask if I were you.

 

cool. I'll give it a go. But I'll probably wait a few more weeks till I get off of school.

 

It's not hard at all.

I would recommend getting either OCZ Freeze or IC Diamond 7. I found that contrary to some here, that in majority of tests, OCZ Freeze seems to be on average the best among non liquid-metal. The best is without doubt the liquid-metal Liquid Pro. But results from CPU and GPU vary, and the OCZ Freeze seems to be the most consistent at #2 and #3 behind Liquid Pro in just about every TIM round-up from trusted sources.

But you can try the IC Diamond if you want... FYI, the benchmark maniacs here, Mandrake and others who have world rankings for Benchmarking use OCZ Freeze.

Both OCZ Freeze and IC Diamond application are the same. Small drop in the middle. Then you place the heatsink right on top, give it a small wiggle, screw it back on.

For IC Diamond, after placing your dot on the GPU/CPU, wait 10 minutes. Let the alchohol evaporate and then place the heatsink on, give it a wiggle and done.

Both IC Diamond and OCZ Freeze don't have a curing time. But IC Diamond's maximum performance will be after 2 hours. OCZ Freeze pretty immediate.

Personally I have both, IC Diamond unopened, but I think I'll stick to OCZ Freeze, overall seems to be better consistently in the trusted review sites.