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    Thermal paste for G73JH GPU

    Discussion in 'ASUS Gaming Notebook Forum' started by Tim4, Aug 8, 2010.

  1. XZNTRK

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    What's the best way to clean off the old thermal paste :confused:
     
  2. Tim4

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    I used 90% alcohol.
     
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    So i F*Ckd up... Whatever... I broke off my speaker connector on my mother board... Do you think its possible to hook in my main speakers into where the "SubWoofer" Speaker connection is? Please let me know if its possible so i can break someting else... Thanks
     
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    As TIM4 said anything alcohol. Or some specific like goo gone products.

    The idea is to use something to clean, that gets rid of the TIM but also dries fast.

    I use nail polish remover. You just have to make sure there are no color dyes or other additives.

    No idea. But for others who want to repaste, seriously GO SLOW and CAREFUL. Use tweezers when you remove connectors, and be slow about it. Slowly nudge them off little by little. IMO watch the BTO Tech video and see how they remove the plugs.

    Or... spend some money and have GenTech or BTO do it for you!
     
  5. XZNTRK

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    Thanks Tim4 and ziddy123
     
  6. Xellon

    Xellon Shinobi of the wind

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    where is the video btw?
     
  7. Tim4

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    Here you go
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  8. Jody

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    That speaker connector has gotten more than one person. It is a smaller white plug inserted in a slightly larger white connector. As the BTO Tech Video states, it is very snugly inserted. To remove it, put a small jeweler's type screwdriver against one of the narrow sides of the plug and twist slightly to loosen. Put the screwdriver on the opposite narrow side and twist to rock it upward and loosen some more. Repeat on each side a couple of times. Try lifting the plug out of the white motherboard socket with tweezers. Do not pull it by the wires. If it doesn't lift right out, use the screwdriver and work both sides some more because you haven't worked it loose yet.

    Do not pry up between the motherboard and the white plastic. If you do, you are prying the socket off of the motherboard instead of the white plug out of the white socket.
     
  9. gstboy

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    ^^
    wanted to add that there are small little tabs that stick out of the male connector. You can use the flat edge of a small screwdriver or tweezers to gently push each side up a bit until the connector is loose enough to pull out. That works for me.

    This last repaste worked great for me, all three temp sensors read the same in idle. At load tss1 is only 3-4 degrees off from tss0 readings. I think this is how the temps should be from the get go if ASUS pasted it correctly from the factory.

    Edit: used mx3 paste small dot in center and ambient 77F
     

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    Yes. That is what I am suggesting. Place a flat screwdriver against that small tab on each side of the male connector and twist with slight pressure to loosen. Do this on each side several times and then try t lift it out with tweezers. Do not apply pressure to raise it out of the socket. It should lift right out or you haven't loosened it enough yet.
     
  11. Tim4

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    Congrats. Welcome to repaste club. BTW what thermal paste you used?
     
  12. Xellon

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    I'm twice as scared now xD
     
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    just to be sure...there is really no way to reach the GPU from the back and I have to lift up the motherboard to reach it?
     
  14. Jody

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    That is correct. You won't even get a good look at it until you flip over the motherboard onto the LCD (which you have placed a towel or such like on).
     
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    Wow...my download speed is wayy slower than yours. lol. my upload is faster tho, hah! :tongue:
     
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    Wow no kidding. I had no idea my G37 had enough screws to build a small house.
    I'm contemplating not re-pasting lol. "Get your keyboard repaired"..??? uhhh. Xellon said it.
     
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    Why haven't they taken the motherboard from chassis completely on that video?
     
  18. smile_gerard

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    Today i was off with no work. And with nothing to do i decided ok fine i'll do the repaste. Can't be that hard... I had a tube of Thermaltake TG-1 at home so since no one actually here uses it i thought might as well. Difference is minimal no matter which paste i use its going to be better then the stock paste.

    Personally i don't like to use Furmark. I just use it to see what temps i get quickly. In the past at 705/1100 i would hit 110 in just minutes. Now after the repaste i ran it for 10mins at 705/1100 and it was around 89 to 90. Put everything back and all works fine. 20 degrees lower is good enough for me. Ambient temperature here is around 28.
     
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    ZOMG!! :eek: You finally repasted??!
     
  20. NGX

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    Grats, enjoy the higher overclocks with lower temps :)
     
  21. smile_gerard

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    Yea i couldn't resist it anymore... I tried to remove the fan cable from the motherboard and a tiny piece of the cable chipped off. So in the end i left the fan intack and just pealed away the black tape holding the heatsink. But other then that all went well. Keyboard looks almost like its never been taken off.
     
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    I never had any issue with the cables but the keyboard was a pain to remove. I have very minimal damage to it but it is impossible to remove the keyboard without inflicting some damage to the aluminum under the keyboard. Is your keyboard perfectly flushed after removal? My top edge is slightly raised but is barely noticeable.
     
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    Its raise very slightly... Not really noticeable unless you really look closely. I don't think my application was that successful as i get temperatures within high 80's but still much better then stock paste. Perhaps the Thermaltake TG-1 isn't as good as ICD7
     
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    I cannot speak for TG-1, but I can for ICD7. :) 102C to 77C FTW!
     
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    You say your max load temp is now 25C lower? That's impossible. Your testing must have changed. I'm sure the paste is better but come on.

    What I saw was somewhat poor contact in the direction of the RAM pads which are clearly pushing up on the heatsink too much for the spring-loaded mounting screws to counteract. Installing some washers on the screws helped here and got me a few degrees improvement. Unfortunately the GPU board itself isn't mounted well enough and isn't rigid enough to allow for a lot of mounting pressure (the board flexes).
     
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    Agreed. It's just the previously job on the heatsink was terrible. From numerous different tests from sites I trust to be unbiased with proper testing, OCZ Freeze, ICD 7, AS5, MX-3 all are within 1-2C of each other, if applied correctly.
     
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    Well also, I've seen that results differ for CPU and GPU. And also, Shin Etsu seems to make quality thermal paste. So for Asus, it's definitely not applying the thermal paste correctly. There are plenty of DIY, Benchmarkers who only use Shin Etsu.
     
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    I added a link to a paste roundup tested on a Radeon 4870. The results aren't much different. There's a 10C total spread with Furmark. They've even got that nasty liquid metal stuff in there, the stuff that eats aluminum and definitely conducts electricity very well (and essentially welds the surfaces together over time).
    http://www.xbitlabs.com/articles/coolers/display/thermal-interface-roundup_11.html
     
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    Yeah results aren't much different except even the Liquid Pro pad is #2 when for CPU it's ranked much lower. Also if you look at the CPU results, the ICD 7 fairs better than OCZ but for the GPU, OCZ does better.

    Just means you can find different results showing different TIM doing better, overall all are within 1-2C.

    IMO as long as you apply the TIM properly, you won't notice a difference in performance whether you buy ICD 7, OCZ Freeze, MX-3, or possibly AS5 if you still want to use that messy stuff.

    The only truly best TIM atm is Liquid Pro.
     
  31. swaaye

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    AS5 isn't that bad as long as you have a citrus-based solvent around to clean it off. Or some other solvent, but the citrus stuff is much less toxic and it actually smells nice. :) Follow that up with isopropyl alcohol and you won't know AS5 was ever there. It also doesn't conduct electricity, contrary to popular legend.

    I still have some AS5 around (a big tube) but I've switched to AS Ceramique because it's very cheap and performs rather well. It is even easier to clean up too.
     
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    My difference in temps is that high because of the really lousy TIM job I got from Asus. So there was plenty of wiggle room.
     
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    Small update. AS5 40 hours of curing time. Ambient 22C
    Idle temps(300/1000)
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    3DMark06
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    Heaven bench 2.0
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    FFXIV
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    Starcraft 2 temps
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    Hi, i just repasted last night and I have a question. My temps are drastically reduced, but when I open hwinfo my GPU ts3 temperature is much higher than the other temps. Is this normal? All the other temps are much lower than before. And much of the reason I'm asking is that before the repaste I used GPU-Z, which has no ts3 monitoring. Anyone? Thanks :)
     
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    I don't have TS3 on my HWINFO.
     
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    Hmm, that's weird. It seems that the TS3-temp is much higher when the fans are at lower speeds. I ran FurMark and the TS3-temp dropped to below 10 degrees. What the crap is going on? Any ideas?
     
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    What version of HWINFO are you using? I'm using 3.59 beta
     
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    I'm using v3.58-913. Just downloaded it, so it should be the latest official release.

    Edit: Downloaded the beta, and you are correct, no TS3-temp to be seen. I still wonder what the hell this thing is though.
     
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    Maybe the TS3 is suppose to be the general "Core Temp" which is usually whatever is highest of the 3
     
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    Here I just finished watching a video in vlc, and the fans had been active. My TS3-temp is cool. But when I return to the pc after a break(and the screen has turned itself off), the temp is way higher, up to about 70-80-ish. Weird.

    [​IMG]
     
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    Hi guys,
    I had to remove the TS3 reading in recent Beta build because it has caused several issues - errors and sometimes the reading of this value might bring the whole machine down with a black screen and GPU fan at max..
    It's quite weird since in past I added TS3 according to ATI documents (certain GPUs should support it).. well, it doesn't seem to be the case, or it's pretty buggy...
    So please ignore TS3 and use the latest Beta.. Sorry for any confusion this has caused, I'm confused as well since I based it on official documents.
     
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    Oh thanks, good to know! Thank you for giving me an answer :)
     
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    any1 know where i can buy the ic7 diamon thermal compund? also, is it really better to replace the TIM pad as well? i might try repasting next week or so..
     
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    If you are in US go for FrozenCPU, if not ebay is the place to find it. You can also look this page Innovation Cooling support page to see if your country listed there.
     
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    I got my ICD7 from SVC.com in California. I ordered it on a Friday and received it in Florida on Monday with free shipping. Total price was $6.99.
     
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    Good grief, Chet. Where were you when I bought mine! I paid like $8.99 for the paste plus several dollars shipping. Furthermore they shipped it US Postal Service so it took five days to get it. I must have used google's new "Worst Deal Possible" engine to find mine. :(
     
  49. Tim4

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    Jody, I ordered some ICD24 from ebay recently. It cost me 24$ with shipping here to Kazakhstan. (and yes it was the cheapest variant). Because here in KZ we have only overpriced AS TIMs and noname chinese ones. I was considering Gelid GC extreme also, but one of my friends already ordered one and he agreed to give me some for testing. I will compare them on my desktop Asus HD4870 dark knight videocard. Now I am using AS ceramique on my desktop GPU. This paste gained me 3C over stock paste. Well, as soon as my thermal pastes will arrive I will test all of them. :)
     
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    $6.99 at any local MicroCenter :D
     
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