Upgrade a G73-jh to 6970?

215 watts? What clocks are the card and CPU running? A bit too high than expected. But there are other areas that can cause this, so not entirely surprising.

 

Sorry Dallers have been all day long testing the machine, tomorrow i will post the info, my problem now are the temps of the cpu, i cant make them go lower than 80c runing tests, the gpu works amazing

 

Guys can we get back on topic please or the posts about Wattage and Ampage are going to get bigger and bigger!

Two of you claim to have implemented a 6970M into a G73JH tonight and there is over a 100 people viewing this topic I understand your tired but please could you post some results which we are dying to see how it performs. Even if it is just failure attempts and heat top outs it gives some us a chance to see how it is performing with stock cooling.

 

Isn't 80C for the CPU at stock clocks already in the usual regions? ofcourse this should be after a few minutes of full load running. Then 80C is just average temps most get, atleast I get that on my systems after a 10min F@H run.

If these are idle temps then your CPU heat sink needs re-seating

 

Seems nobody noticed my post here on same page so I will just quote my self

 

We really need more precise information than just it runs above 80oC.....

You say the GPU runs amazingly well but then cannot handle a benchmark test.......

Arghhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh!

 

I noticed it the first time I will give this a try, +rep for the info in any case

 

Take it easy guys . As you said we waited almost one year now so we have to smoar us With little more patience and wait til tomorow. Anyhow good work there all.

 

The info of my sistem, iddle temps, pretty hot here in my country 30c now 10:40pm, see ya tomorrow now i go to sleep zzzz

 

Great . I was aiming at Thanatospy as it seems he didnt Catch this one post about RW-Everything.

 

Your GPU temps at those idle clocks are correct I can confirm. The lowest idle it can go would be 100/150, but on M18X it only does so for the slave card.

So your temps and clocks are in line as to what they should be.

 

Considering the majority of us have been waiting a year to buy one and the person who helps the 100 people watching to buy one for their JH and claim the most REP possible in one day, I dont think so.

Ok questions Drink coffee and peg your eyes open. Firstly Fantastic.

1: What VBIOS are you using?
2: What temperature does it reach under Furmark?
3: Where you able to run a benchmark? If so do you have a score? If not what temperature was reached?
4: Any bugs or glitches or problems?
5: What heatsink are you using?

Then you are allowed to sleep

+1

 

If I remeber correctly he stated that temps were similar to temps when card was in his msi. Which means card operate normally in g73 to. And seems we confirmed another theory that g73 can and will Draw more than 180w when needed

 

As I mentioned a few posts above, this was never a theory but by design as per MXM standards. No surprises there.

 

Your talk of power, wattage, ampage and draw has bored and forced our only current 6970M implementation beavis and butthead dude to go to sleep gentleman!

I hope your happy with yourselves!

I long to have 115.2gb/s bandwidth

 

I just choosed to put that in the manner as I myself have found that even my machine With original 5870m can Draw more than 180w long time ago.

Yeah seems its best thing to do in my case anyway as its 3:00 AM here now.

 

Come on, the guy needs sleep its 11pm there in Paraguay.

 

Pffff its 2am here in the UK, and you already have your 6970M...in fact wait you have 2 of them!!!

I think I may just give up and buy an M18x Maybe I am being stingy I do have a credit card which is looking pretty empty....

 

Actually I plan on selling the 6970M when the HD 7000 series launches and the other 6970M will go into the ASUS which my girlfriend will use. I need to sweet talk her into playing some games so she feels the need for the 6970M.

You are in the UK, if you have friends in the US, getting a m18X from the outlet like I did will be the best bang for the buck.

You probably wont get a 6970M you will have to be satisfied with two 6990Ms

Do they have a dell outlet in the UK?

 

Never bought a laptop in the UK its disgusting the price you pay I always get a laptop from someone I know is coming to the US if I can although my JH I got through a dodgy delivery company haha.

I am just gonna wait for wimbledon and then order it ready for someone to pick up and bring back for me the 6990M M18x is very tempting but I might only need it for less than a year and at 900p I think my 5870M might just survive it. Would have loved a 6970M mind but I dunno it just seems like a lot of work for me and I dunno how much more punishment the old girl can take mwahahaa!

 

WOW thats a lot of post´s

And thx Dallers will try to do my best on the exams. Well i got the heat gun ready just in case i manage to get some free time today and start my mod.

And good to hear someone got it to work . Temps seem a bit high but hope it survives. Tijo-s card survived idle temps to but the benchmark test was the killer.

 

Not to worry about 60C on the idle temps, those are as expected on the M18X as well. What needs cooling are the VRMs. You will get this taken care of thanks to the modded AW M17X R3 heatsink, we don't have probed temp reads for the VRMs.

 

thats what i call progress
now we know that
1-it will need more than 180w of power.
2-it run well on stock clocks.
3-fan is controllable by the motherboard.
4-we will wait for the benchmarks and see the transformed G73JH with the 940xm and amd 6970.
5- DH48 will test to the result with the moded R2 heatsink and see the temp improvemet

 

Turns out its a R3 heatsink lol the order form says R2 but i googled it and it looks like its from a R3 but anyway the R3 works better for me.

I also sent a email to the shop asking for the price od a 920 and 940 xm + the AW M18x power brick. If the GPU works out then next month ill fill in the next upgrade parts order.

 

Yes I did mention its a M17X R3 heatsink, I thought you order that knowing its a R3 heastink, which is better built than the R2 heatsink.

 

I always praise extreme modding, good work guys. Althought i dont like ati im very impressed of the work made, and im looking forward to see this how it ends.
Keep up the good work!

 

Well when i filled in the order first time they asked for what model. I did not know so is just said the R2 should do. After they changed the order they did not ask about the heatsink just asked if i want it for the M17 or M18.

 

I think the G73JH got a better cooling solution than the GX660 and the got I dentical idle temp without the moded heatsink for g73 that you are working on
so IMO the moded heat sink will take it to low 50's and the load will go up to 80's as the 5870 as long on stock clocks and about Thanatospy report that 940xm went up to 80c while benching i think its a tipical temp for most cpus on the G73JH and XM are not exeption from that.

keep it up.

 

So the question is when dh48 does get this working and i say does because i know he will will you be open to me sending you my laptop to do all proper upgrades and etc of course i will $$$

 

well actually he got some exams to finish first then upgrade will be after that
we are waiting for the results.

 

Hi there! 1st bech today: 3dmark 2011, my max gpu temp was 71c!!!! the problem now: the cpu, max temp was 87c, i think this machine cant handle the 940xm, too much heat comming out from it, i really dont have ideas of the scores so post the picture here, clean windows install+updates+catalyst 11.9+audio driver+atk driver, nothing more installed

 

nice score for a stock clock GPU others scores around 2800-2900 with stock
so i think there must be somthing to do with the cpu temp cuz the point of xm is overclock if there is no headroom for that i guess the 840qm will be fine.

btw did use the 240w brick?
and was were your score with the MSI?
also if you can do a 3dMark06 and vantage benches that will be awesome just to compare results vs MSI upgrades and m15x.
also another thing did you use the stock 5870 heatsink?

 

Scores completely in line as expected.

Maybe you have another 200-400 points to find but no biggie.

 

I want a 6970M

BTW in regards to the 940XM comment if you are running 4 cores over 3Ghz expect to see temps upto or over 90oC fella so those temps are pretty much spot on.

My god it is actually working correctly......

How much power draw is required when you are running that benchmark? Also are you using stock cooling?

 

@Thanatospy What was your power consumption at the wall during the 3D Mark 11 run?

 

yes im using the 240w psu, the msi scores the same numbers, a liiiitle less but the msi have better disc performance, let me download the 3dmark06 and ill post the score np bro

the machine works amazing man, ill try to submit more info about the system stability, runing 3dmark my tester indicate max 211w

I Run the Unigine Bench after 2 hours of running the normal test, i cant printscreen so submiting the score from the html file it generates

Powered by Unigine Engine
Heaven Benchmark v2.5 Basic
FPS:
28.8
Scores:
675
Min FPS:
15.3
Max FPS:
55.5
Hardware

Binary:
Windows 32bit Visual C++ 1600 Release Mar 1 2011
Operating system:
Windows 7 (build 7601, Service Pack 1) 64bit
CPU model:
Intel(R) Core(TM) i7 CPU X 940 @ 2.13GHz
CPU flags:
2277MHz MMX SSE SSE2 SSE3 SSSE3 SSE41 SSE42 HTT
GPU model:
AMD Radeon HD 6900M Series 8.892.0.0 2048Mb
Settings

Render:
direct3d11
Mode:
1920x1080 fullscreen
Shaders:
high
Textures:
high
Filter:
trilinear
Anisotropy:
16x
Occlusion:
enabled
Refraction:
enabled
Volumetric:
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Unigine Corp. © 2005-2011

Max GPU Temp 79c and cpu 71c with this engine

 

what about the Heatsink? is it the stock G73jh one for the 5870?

 

I second that, any additional cooling as well? is it returned into the shell or do you have the mobo sitting externally?

 

Wait a minute. Is that a 6970m in a G73JH? That is frikkin awesome. I mean. Really. I'm so glad someone managed to do it after all the speculations and no-nos and failures. Congratulations.

 

Figuring out the reason for the failures is going to be a key part of the testing as they did not fail straight away sadly it could be a while and a good amount of testing before it is worth the price tag.

Amazing Amazing work non the less truly the 6970M is a fantastic card and to be able to beat the latest Asus G model just by upgrading the board is hilarious.

Long live the JH!

 

Great work Thanatospy! I now have hope for the 7xxx series as a major upgrade and will upgrade my CPU (920XM or 940XM depending on the price at the time) I wish we could get some cheaper upgrades for laptops. If the laptop manufactures would refine their design for quick removal and replacement you might see the laptop replace the majority of desktops. MXM, Power Supply and CPU upgrades on laptops are a lucrative market nobody had tapped into yet. I'd love to see how BF3 runs.

 

Thanks for the numbers it shows how power efficient the sandy bridges are in comparison. The aggressive power and clock gating plus small feature size at 32nm showing its worth.

The Chipset and CPU combined are consuming much less than 1 gen core i7 chipsets and CPUs. Around 40-45 watts less.

Your next mod should be using either the m17X R2 or R3 (prefered) heatsink, as you don't want to run your card on ASUS stock heatsink for many months if you care for the longevity of your card's VRMs.

 

Eurocom purchasers claim they've heard it from the sellers themselves that their cards had high rates of failures regardless of what systems they used them in, AW, MSI, Clevo etc

Dell's Add-in board partners are not the same as Eurocom/Sager's

There also physical differences in the components used and the layout of the PCB between the two makes, if you look closely you will see them, but over all they look the same to anyone causally inspecting them.

 

Thx guys, i love do this kind of things, sorry for my english i try to make my best and provide real info for just regular knowledge users like me hehehehe, well i presents to you to my little frankenstain:



You can see is the STOCK heatsink from the laptop, a few pages before you can see the mods over it, all the vrm have heatsinks now, my iddle temps now are arround 50c/54c, i have the zalman nb3000 under the machine it help alooot to the card

here the pictures of the mod for the fans to make them work 100% all the time, i must say they are 50% quiet than the msi with turbo mode on, ill buy a couple of fans to have some replacement parts if something goes wrong with them

 

There are several sections which are cooled on the AW heatsink that the JH heatsink does not cover although Than has managed to cover that problem the JH heatsink is pretty poor, I think I will consider the AW heatsink as DH48 is doing.

Double the memory bandwidth is looking very tempting..

 

Good you removed the sense feed of the fan that is a short cut that will ensure the fans never drop or depend on software that you need to ensure runs all the time.

Those mini heat sinks still need dissipation through the heat pipes, this arrangement may or may not be good for the long term. If you have a IR thermometer you can measure the temps on the VRMs when you run 3D Mark or a furmark loops and you will get a better idea of how much heat is being out putted by the VRMs with just passive heat-sinks.

But for now something is better than no cooling for the VRMs.

 

tbh I personaly started to calculate the upgrade cost
cpu around 260$ for the QS 920xm
gpu around 450$ or more for the amd 6990m
ram 15$ for another hynix 2gb ddr3
ssd around 160$ for a 120GB
power brick 240w 90$
total is 975$ cpu included its an expensive upgrade

I may do the GPU amd 6970 for 350$ , ram 15$, SSD 160$, and finaly the power brick to targus 180w for 62$
will total at 587$ + the 760 i paid for the lappy its around 1350$ best bang for the buck

but however cheaper upgrade is

 

You dont really need the CPU however and you are probably going to be far better off by not actually upgrading the CPU, less heat and less power consumption and the 720QM is not the bottleneck it is the 5870M so you will probably even things out nicely.

The RAM and SSD are just an added extra.

A 6970M would be the best choice in all situations, however do not rush to buy one yet let these chaps and DH48 fully implement and test them first.

 

If you recall in this thread I was the one who stressed leaving the VRM's uncooled is going to kill the cards. DH48 went with the AW heastink option instead of his own custom heatsink plans after I insisted he do that.

But with that being the case, Eurocom has been having issues with their batches at that time. They might have sorted thing out by now no idea.

 

Better safe than sorry at the end of the day when a heatsink costs nothing compared to the card though and still the JH heatsink is poor mine is certainly not straight either.