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    Upgrade a G73-jh to 6970?

    Discussion in 'ASUS Gaming Notebook Forum' started by tudordewolf, Jun 7, 2011.

  1. tijo

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    Even if it doesn't, you deserve rep for trying it ;).
     
    tijo, Jun 17, 2011
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  2. Yiddo

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    I will consider it. :cool:
     
    Yiddo, Jun 17, 2011
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  3. tudordewolf

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    I now have the card. Shutting down and initiating the transfer.
     
    tudordewolf, Jun 17, 2011
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    what? you have it already?!? :eek: :eek: :eek:

    *fingers crossed*

    oh please oh please oh please oh please oh please oh please oh please oh please oh please oh please oh please oh please oh please oh please oh please oh please WORKKKKKKK!!!!!!
     
    j00zl33t, Jun 17, 2011
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    Everything ready? Paste, cleaning stuff, duct tape etc? :D

    Good luck, hehehe.
     
    svl7, Jun 17, 2011
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    Sounds like freaking brain sugery, Lord I hope no one dies!
     
    ValkerieFire, Jun 17, 2011
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    Keeping my fingers crossed and wishing the best of luck!
     
    LegendaryKA8, Jun 17, 2011
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  8. tudordewolf

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    Posting this from my itouch. Using articlean on the hetasink now.
     
    tudordewolf, Jun 17, 2011
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  9. tijo

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    Stop teasing us you monster :p. Jokes aside, i'm rooting for Morpheus.
     
    tijo, Jun 17, 2011
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  10. hackness

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    Biggest moment of a G73JH o_O!!!
     
    hackness, Jun 17, 2011
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  11. svl7

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    Lol :D You're working in advertisment?
     
    svl7, Jun 17, 2011
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  12. King of Interns

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    This thread looks like fun. Looking forward to the result. Think I will keep watching as the outcome seems just around the corner.
    Gives me confidence to upgrade my 4670 to a 4850 that's for sure! Good to see someone else with the guts to try such an upgrade :)
     
    King of Interns, Jun 17, 2011
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  13. tudordewolf

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    Backplate same size, holes too small on the 6970. Dremel time. Gonna bore them out by a tiny bit On the card. Eek.
     
    tudordewolf, Jun 17, 2011
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    Blimey the king is here :) something special must be happening.

    Evening Mr Fan Switch how are ya doing?

    I was off down the gym tonight but this is far too exciting to miss.

    Nice to see your not scared to get your hands dirty for the sake of a few poor punters staying in on a Friday night :D
     
    Yiddo, Jun 17, 2011
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    Damn, didn't think about this... When I put it in the JW I just used a backplate of a Dell 260m which was laying around...

    Edit: You know there's no chance of returning the card if you start modifying it physically... Maybe better wait and get a back plate that fits. That's why I wrote in my 6970m guide to ask the dealer for a back plate.
     
    svl7, Jun 17, 2011
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  16. tijo

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    I wonder if it would be possible to order a backplate and screws for it with the card and replace the screws on the JH heatsink.
     
    tijo, Jun 17, 2011
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    Should be possible, but not all vendors have the backplate. Replacing the screws is not a big deal, but without the retention clips you may crack the die of the card when you fix the screws too much.

    Didn't know that the back plate of the Asus 5870m is non-standard... crazy Asus.

    Standard back plates will work, MXM standard is 3.2mm holes, placed in a 46mm square.
     
    svl7, Jun 17, 2011
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  18. DRevan

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    Question...how could it be possible anyway for the JH to recognize it without a BIOS update? MSI 5870 is almost the same as the Asus 5870 but still had a bug :/
     
    DRevan, Jun 17, 2011
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    DON'T bore the holes out on your card!! The risk in breaking it is great! Mxm upgrade tried to do that with a 4670 and killed it. Just use smaller screws and customise your own backplate! Not sure? can check my sig for pic of my card installed. I found small enough screws. They were 3 cm long so I just cut them down with metal saw. Then fed them through from the back of the card. Used woodglue to keep them in place (no actual backplate at all). Fitted the heatspreader on top and bolted in on tight :) Just an idea for you...

    You alright dilly dallying dallers? Mr Fan Switch!? lol yeah this is quite exciting just hope he doesn't bore out the holes on his pcb eekkk
     
    King of Interns, Jun 17, 2011
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    Well, the idea of MXM is, that it works without a BIOS update, the system BIOS only has to be able to access and load the VBIOS at boot... The fan issue of the 5870m is probably related to the hardware as well. The 6970m in the M15x has the same issue, unless you use a Dell 6970m. But using the Dell vbios on a non-Dell card won't solve the fan issue...


    Enlarging the holes is really not a great idea, but it should work as no conducting paths are getting destroyed and the card doesn't get killed by ESD! I wouldn't try it...
     
    svl7, Jun 17, 2011
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    Yeah not bad decided to head for the gym after all and keep an eye on the breakthrough on the I phone :D this is about as exciting as my life gets at the moment waiting on a 6970M the best GPU breakthrough since Nvidia thought to themselves ''Lets try stuffing two 8800M GTX's in a Dell and see what happens)

    Hopefully he has seen the warning because I personally would drill, hack and force my way into fitting her in :eek: but ESD will be bad on a $500 card, verrrrry bad!
     
    Yiddo, Jun 17, 2011
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  22. King of Interns

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    I would do the same to anything but the card. By all means hack, drill and force (I will/have been doing so :p soon) but the card itself should remain untouched in my opinion. Woodglue works absolute wonders as replacement to metal backplate; easily applied and easily removed :) and strong while on the card.
     
    King of Interns, Jun 17, 2011
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  23. oqix

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    Such adjustment (drilling) may result in destruction of not only GPU but even motherboard because it's possible to short MXM pin's.
     
    oqix, Jun 17, 2011
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    I think we are all universally agreed that drilling out the holes on the card is a BAD idea! Take heed! :)
     
    King of Interns, Jun 17, 2011
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    o_O passed by before sleeping and now I lost my drowsiness because morpheus is being dremeled O.O
     
    JonnyFrost, Jun 17, 2011
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  26. j00zl33t

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    Wow... "6970m on G73jh" is number one on google trends right now... :err: :eek2: :err: :eek2:
     
    j00zl33t, Jun 17, 2011
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  27. Yiddo

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    That is because every JH owners women/wife/girlfriend's bloke/husband/boyfriend is on this forum waiting for news that will change the very fabric of this society! :D
     
    Yiddo, Jun 17, 2011
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    Wow. Backplate worked w/ mod btw. Booted to login, screen and everything. Kb not fully functional tho, going in to recheck connections. You shouldve heard my reaction to the thing booting =D
     
    tudordewolf, Jun 17, 2011
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    Speechless. Screenshots and you can borrow my Porsche for the weekend!! :eek:

    My poor credit card is gonna have 6970M written all over it....
     
    Yiddo, Jun 17, 2011
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    Sounds freakin' awesome! Keep us posted!
     
    LegendaryKA8, Jun 17, 2011
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  31. ichime

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    Is this with drivers installed and do the fans work?
     
    ichime, Jun 17, 2011
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    Unbelievable... damn JW...!!
     
    svl7, Jun 17, 2011
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    Waiting for that new thread with pictures of the building+screenshots from Furmark and 3DMarks :p I hope the JH won't have a meltdown while doing Furmark :D

    btw, how are the fans doing?
     
    DRevan, Jun 17, 2011
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    Asus - You can say goodbye to your G74 release your reverse MXM has been completely and utterly destroyed. You underestimate the power of NotebookReview!!
     
    Yiddo, Jun 17, 2011
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    Don't get too hasty, it has not been tested yet under load :rolleyes:
     
    DRevan, Jun 17, 2011
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    I will attach a car battery and a portable fridge to mine if I have to! ;)
     
    Yiddo, Jun 17, 2011
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    I wonder if a 485m would work in a SW then... ;)
     
    lpnowlan, Jun 17, 2011
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    Furiously F5ing. If it works, cooling can be solved.
     
    Toxictaru, Jun 17, 2011
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    The next question is power... cooling should work imo. I'm waiting to hear from tudordewolf about the fan, clocks etc.
     
    svl7, Jun 17, 2011
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    And power is something which can likely be solved, too. This is extremely exciting news!
     
    LegendaryKA8, Jun 17, 2011
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    Can the MXM connection on the JH motherboard support enough power for the 6970M?
     
    DRevan, Jun 17, 2011
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    Ah, that's right. Motherboard and connector power limits. Maybe I'm getting a little hasty, but admittedly having the 6970M boot in the first place is a good sign.
     
    LegendaryKA8, Jun 17, 2011
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    This is one of many questions that needs answering 50watt to 100watt is a massive increase along with the fact the JH only has a 150watt adaptor on its own :confused:

    However if it works then modders will find a way that I do not doubt and I would rather have a 720QM with a 6970M than a 920xm with a 5870M.
     
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    If you still have problems with the kb, try an external one and tell us how it goes :D.
     
    tijo, Jun 17, 2011
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  45. Yiddo

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    There is probably not enough power left to run the keyboard with that beast in there :laugh:
     
    Yiddo, Jun 17, 2011
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    The power adapter, however, isn't going to be that huge of a deal. There are a couple of much larger supplies that will safely supply the juice needed for the JH as long as you splice the JH's connector plug to them. The brick for the Dell XPS M1730 should work for this, and there's an HP brick that should also work.
     
    LegendaryKA8, Jun 17, 2011
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    This will only be a succes, if it can stand at least an hour Furmark without shuting down :)
     
    DRevan, Jun 17, 2011
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    This is like resurrection of phenix :D.
     
    oqix, Jun 17, 2011
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  49. Yiddo

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    But then it comes down to how much the PSU can handle and dish out you can put a brick and a half on the end of the adaptor it doesn't mean the JH will use it.
     
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    Therein lies the crux of the issue. That's an issue that will become revealed in time. One big question answered, many smaller ones remain. However, there are possible solutions around most of the teething issues.
     
    LegendaryKA8, Jun 17, 2011
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