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Nope nothing yet, have fun in Russia .

 

1:1 mapping for a monitor is not an issue for a computer.

Its when you hook say a 720x640 xbox to a 1920x1080 HDTV a tv that can do1:1 will keep the orginal 720x640 source in the center of the screen with black bars on all 4 sides. Thus retaining the original image without distorting it.

Its good in some situations, but I prefer a panel with a good scaler and aspect scaling, meaning it keeps the same aspect but scales it up to the full size of the screen until one dimension is at its max usually resulting in black bars just on one side.

The worst thing is a panel with a crappy scaler or no aspect scaling and it just fits it to screen and distorts it.

So 1:1 is something I like myself, but since it only is used based on input resolution and you can adjust the output resolution of your computer there is no need for it and its not needed.

 

If you look there is a drop box on the CCC you have to set the clocks for both cards individually. Test them and then apply them.

 

I wanted true 1:1 on my HDTVs because many of them will not always do this when hooking up a computer without going VGA which blows compared to HDMI IMHO. Many TVs today have horrible scalers actually as well. My sony on my desktop is awesome as a monitor@42inches but the scaler blows compared to my Olevia 47 inch because that one has a ATI chip for scaling and was the only reason i bought an olevia because theyre not really a top tier brand but the scaler blew my mind especially for what i paid. again it always depends on what you want to do with your TV/monitor. I wanted Perfect 1080p for my desk so thats why i went with the sony as it was capable of giving me an image that wasnt bleeding over the edges like so many so called 1080p screens which dont or wont do it or have pixels shaped like chevrons so while movies look great as a monitor they suck .

 

I have a great westinghouse lvm37-w3 its a HD LCD not really a HD TV with a great scaler.

But I was saying if you our outputting a resolution the size of the screen its not going to be scaled so it doesnt matter if it has 1:1 or the quality of the scaler.

http://www.widescreengamingforum.com/forum/viewtopic.php?p=95232

 

Yeah...I tried that. The master card would test and accept the higher clocks but the slave card would not, even though I could move the sliders to their max for both gpus using the drop down menu to selecting between the two.

I tried to load the drivers tonight and I must have borked something with the installation. I double clicked on 9-4_vista64_win7_64_dd.exe, to load it into the default directory and my machine locked up so hard I had to hard boot...then it wouldn't boot at all.

In the end, I installed my back up C: drive, (which I had earlier cloned), and the machine is once again up and running.

I'll try it again tomorrow. Am I supposed to change the bios before loading the drivers? That might be where I went wrong.

Regardless, I'll give it another whirl tomorrow.

 

Does anyone know what the highest 3dmark 06 score on one of these is. Specifically with a qx9300

 

quad has got like 17XXX I think, the highest known score is just over 20,000

but it really doesnt amount to squat, 3dmark06 is not an accurate representation of the power of the notebook, just an accurate representation of your high cpu speed.

if you need benchmark scores you should be looking at Vantage scores preferably H or E

 

Yeah if you dont do the bios first the drivers wont install on the 2nd card, as in your only using one card right now

 

No worries...my cloned drive had me up and running in no time.

When we install the 9-4~.exe, is that installing the drivers to the card or does it unpack it to a directory for later installation to the gpu?

 

It just unpacks it and usually starts the install manager but since the original inf files wont work you wont use the install manager.

You have to copy the modified .inf files over the old ones in that unpack directory, then update the gpu drives manually via the have disk method in the device manager by pointing it to the new modified .inf files.

 

So I should stop the install? Dang...maybe that's where I went wrong. I believe they were trying to install when everything went quiet.

 

if it installs it will just fail, as the original .inf wont work, it may instlal the new CCC though and you dont want that.

You want the original asus one, or the one quad linked to a few pages back.

 

Ok...I'll give it another go tomorrow. I'll just follow the steps from top to bottom and see how it goes.

What could possibly go wrong...?

 

Famous last words lol

 

As long as you follow the instructions step by step nothing will go wrong, however if you experiment or dont pay attention something can go wrong.

As I think a new member named Infinityone has flashed both his cards to slave cards and cant boot right now.

 

Hey Vicious, have you updated the overclocking thread with new info, just want to have all the latest info when my laptop (hopefully) arrives next week. As far as flashing the vertex, will i be able install the drive in an external enclosure (eSATA) to update it? May as well get that done while I wait. If so, where is a good place to get the info on what I need to do?

 

Not sure about the vertex, I do not see why it wont work, but I remember somebody saying it has to be hooked up a certian way.

All the files are still the same for the guide, the only new thing is the drivers Quadzilla posted so that you can install an updated compatible catylst control panel, this is an optional step if you want to be able to turn off crossfire for some reason.

 

@Quad...Did you ever play with SetFSB when you still had the T9600 in your W90?

I am curious if anyone has experiemented with SetFSB and the 2.8 Duo to see what it could be pushed to safely.

I know with the Q9000 V has gotten 2.7 stable and your QX9300 is pushing just over the 3's but given the Duo can use TurboGear and push the 3.3 realm is it capable of going higher and still remaining stable and somewhat cool under SetFSB.

 

I had it up to 3.6ghz but 3.5 seemed stable . The issue i had was no matter how high i pushed it the numbers werent changing ie 3dmark etc so i just left it at 3.2 . Since all CPUs are not created equal your mileage will vary . Initially when i tried it i couldnt get past 3.3 but what i had done was enabled turbo gear @3.2 then closed the program which still left my [email protected] then i opened Setfsb and started slowly moving it over in incrementes of 10s and 20s.

 

Hmm wonder if i can go higher than 2.8 if I do this, but who knows if my new unit from RMA will be as good as the last.

 

Ya i suggested people tried this with the Quads prior to me getting the Qx9300 the problem was ours are stuck at stupid 1.25v which is just so limiting us its not even funny . My Dualcore was at 1.265 which still makes 0 sense they give more V to a Dual then a quad. Asus really needs to step up and fix this issue but im not holding my breath . At 1.265 that kinc guy with the 20k 3dmark was able to get his to 4.0ghz supposedly and i know i could easily hit 3.3-3.5 with just a little more voltage.

 

Theres gotta be someone out there who could mod the voltage via bios id imagine?

 

Im still over 99% sure my limit was my ram or system not handling more fsb, I definitely had voltage to spare for more cpu power.

The problem is that eve if I would have bought a stick of ram that is rated higher it will boot with its lower SPD settings as the machine wont boot with the ram overclocked.

Then when I start to overclock with setfsb, even if the rams rated speed is well beyond the speed I want to overclock too, its going to be using the timings of its boot speed and probably become unstable, so it would be a matter of luck & research to find ram that has very lax spd timings or can overclock like crazy.

My FSB was getting very close to 400 before I got major unstable, thats just short of mr 4ghz.

So I really think ram is starting to become a new limiting factor when you get that high, and if you look he did not have the stock 6gb ram installed he had 2 or 3gb of ram installed in his screen shots, so that shows he had to swap ram out too.

 

The ocz site has all the info you need. One point; they mention going into bios to change the bus from sata to ide...don't do that. I tried and my computer wouldn't boot so I just flashed in sata mode and it worked fine.

 

With all of the expectant recipients waiting so patiently for their new bundles of joy; I was wondering if any of you future proud papa's (or mama's) would mind making an unboxing video? Then the rest of us poor saps that are saving up money and hocking things (I am in the final stages of selling my Colt Anaconda 44 Mag to subsidize this beast) can enjoy a vicarious unboxing through you. I have read this thread from start to present and scowered youtube and the like for an unboxing video and not a one to be found.
I think I have reached a new low; selling guns to fund my technology habit, oh what would my forefathers say?

I truly enjoy the information, banter and those that push their system to the limit to benefit the rest of us. Thanks to you all who contribute with research, answers and intelligent questions.

 

thats it you just reminded me, its AHCI mode you cant use, as long as your in ide (and I guess sata) the e-sata connection is fine.

This is a good time for you to play with it and do speed test while its an external drive, may as well enjoy your expensive little bundle of joy

 

Thanks Striker. I did look at those as well as the video (seen it on youtube), but I was just hoping for the whole opening of the box from the beginning in a video format. I appreciate the quick response. Jamie's (I think that was the name) posted internal pics were very insightful as well. I wonder if some these vendors (Asus, MSI, OCZ... etc) might start adding some internal images with these desktop replacement laptops becoming so modular.

 

wwoods, I know. I am ashamed. But I just don't shoot it that much anymore and it has really risen in value (almost tripled since I bought it). I still have others

Besides, I think this laptop is worth it!

 

Lets just hope the sacrifice stories dont get any worse

I wont go into more detail than that on our cute lil' g rated forum.

 

Hmm ok something fishy going on with my new system.....

Anyone have a newer build W90?

For some reason 3dMark06 pre-installed on my "new" out of the box W90X1. Didn't have it on any of my previous incarnations.

 

Hello vicious,a new catalyst9.5 will be released very soon. For those who want install the latest drivers, do they need new version of Modified .INF and card bios differing from those included in your limit break package?

 

Hmm I'll have to look.

Its really odd 99% of the programs have a 4/18 install date. Then there is 3dMark06 which has an install date of 4/28 which oddly enough is the same day it arrived and subsequently shipped overnight to me as I received it on 4/29.

There were also a few other programs installed on 4/28 the day it was sent out:
Microsoft SQL Server 2005
Microsoft Live Essentials
Microsoft Silverlight

Well I ran 3dMark06 at default settings 1280x1024 with the CPU OC'd to 3.27 and it scored 15635. I then ran it at 1920x1080 and it scored 14989 not bad right?

 

Yeah I'm thinking since this was my third computer that they may have just "inspected it" to make certain that it wasn't coming back.

Yeah, I thought the scores were pretty good with the 17% OC through Turbo Gear I think its on the higher scale of the out of the box scores. Not sure what tweaks I can do to make it go higher?

 

He was running a 32bit OS thats why he had such a odd ram number . Lots of people and this guy is a pro still bench with 32bit OS's .So its hard to say how much he had exactly .

 

Evey time I'm on the forum and I look over at your avatar I start laughing. Just thought I would let you know you unintentionally brought joy to someones life


What does a Colt go for these days?

 

Yes we shall need someone to Mod the INFs for us to install them . E-wrecked was helping us out with that but he has not been on awhile or atleast not on these boards . I PMed him yesterday but still no word back from him.

 

Bad news . I heard that there were 80 thousand changes in 9.5 and it should be a great improvement to our new video cards.

 

I have a suspicion the smart people will get crackin on the 9.5 inf in short order once the drivers are out. I have to say I am doing well on the 9.4 drivers, could always use more performance but I have no issues in Crysis, Mass Effect, Far Cry 2, Demigod, Left 4 Dead, and fallout 3 which are the games I have installed right now.

As an aside I watched a blue-ray movie on the lappy to check it out and found it to be ho hum. I rented transformers and played it alongside the DVD version I own on my old 17"er and there was little difference. Just not enough screen to get much pop out of it. I also discovered the included software is lame. Works is about all that can be said for it. Going to have to go back and search this thread for the link on power DVD for 16 bucks.

 

Well unless the basic INF structure changed some how radically then im sure someone will figure it out quick enough.

 

Okey dokey...I did things a bit out of order, (I did the bios first), but I think I may have updated to the 9-4 drivers. When I loaded 9-4~.exe, I let it run through the first part then canceled when it wanted to install the CCC. Hopefully, this was correct.

How will I know if they took? In device manager, under display adapters, I have two ATI Mobility Radeon 4870x2. Under properties, they both show the same driver version; 8.551.2.0.

 

I was thinking the same thing, I made a pretty detailed letter that i sent to asus to tell them to use 3dmark to test the computers for the graphic error I had, though I told them to use Vantage + the Jane test, it always reproduced the graphics error on the loading screen.

 

somewheree in your CCC it says the actual driver version as 9.4 instead of the code.

You have to do the bios first, then unpack and mod the drivers then install the drivers via the device manager not with the installer.

 

Also, the checksums under atiWinflash both show 9300. It seems to be looking good so far...what's a really good test?

 

Seems there is a 9.5 beta http://www.tomshardware.com/forum/263379-33-catalyst-090330a-beta

 

Open up the ccc and select information, then software. You should see 09.4 under catalyst version.

 

I flashed the bios then clicked on the drivers to unpack them and went to get a cup of coffee, got sidetracked and when I got back the installation was just completing. That bummed me a little til I checked driver versions and found out they didnt install anyways. Went ahead and swapped inf's and installed via disc and all was well. Maybe not the preferred method but I got there.

 

Well congrats and welcome to the club

 

Thanks. Had it for near two weeks now, I was referring back to when I was doing the initial setup. Love this sucker, I got a few nitpicks like the useless touch volume dealie but its solid where it counts.