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    *Official ASUS W90Vp Owners' Lounge*

    Discussion in 'ASUS Reviews and Owners' Lounges' started by -=$tR|k3r=-, Feb 19, 2009.

  1. kimdoocheol

    kimdoocheol Notebook Evangelist

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    hey justin, i'm interested to why you have a for sure date of june 2nd, but the shipment for the last week of may is up in the air?
     
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    scubahalo Notebook Geek

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    The website say RAID 0. i don't think the laptop have raid in it.
     
  4. Justin@XoticPC

    Justin@XoticPC Company Representative

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    @ kimdoocheol - You probably want to talk with your reseller about it. There are limited quantities coming in and the high demand for the machine. We have had large orders placed with ASUS for quite some time.
     
  5. kimdoocheol

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    oh, i was talking about your post in the other thread.. you said you were getting two shipments in, one in the last week of may, and june 2nd.. i was just wondering why you had a for sure date for june 2nd, but not for the one coming in may...
     
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    Cool thanks for the info. Glad it's working for you. If it happens again, please let us know. :)

    Weird you couldn't go to 9.4 drivers, I followed Vicious's instructions and didn't have any problem. I suppose that might just be a glitch in your OS.
     
  7. -=$tR|k3r=-

    -=$tR|k3r=- Notebook Virtuoso

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    Nice review, and dated 20 May 2009..... and did anyone read this part:

    http://firingsquad.com/hardware/asus_w90vp_review/page8.asp

    :)
     
  8. scubahalo

    scubahalo Notebook Geek

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    -=$tR|k3r=- Notebook Virtuoso

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    And no doubt this one will be their top 'R.O.G.' model...... DARN, I feel SOOOOoooo beta tested right now, LOL!

    ..... and I bet the price will be higher too!

    :D
     
  10. fishhawk

    fishhawk Notebook Geek

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    Maybe I'm being dense here but... Is this new SKU the delayed shipment machines? If they are going to come out with a newer hardware, I'm more apt to cancel my existing W90 order and wait for its replacement. The unknown is freaking killing me!! I've dropped a lot of $$ for something that I've never seen and now it's going to be replaced??? Someone please explain if I'm missing the obvious.
     
  11. 2Beagles

    2Beagles Notebook Guru

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    I wonder if Ken or Justin have heard anything about this? :eek:
    ___________________________________________________


    A1 Pre-Ordered from Ken Lee @ GenTech, http://www.1toppc.com 1-800-990-7945
     
  12. scubahalo

    scubahalo Notebook Geek

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    Yeah, I'm feeling all tingly. :eek:
     
  13. Aristotelhs2060

    Aristotelhs2060 Notebook Virtuoso

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    why you feel beta tester?because a few were out and now asus is to have large stock?

    what do you mean guys? the new shipment we are waiting for is going to have new hardware or a new one will be released? please dont speak with enigmas
     
  14. nexuscom

    nexuscom Notebook Consultant

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    I think they know about it and not telling. If they say there discontinue, everyone would cancel there pre-order and lose money and people would go buy something else.
     
  15. electrosoft

    electrosoft Perpetualist Matrixist

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    I know earlier in this thread, someone mentioned ASUS indicated one issue was a card seating issue.

    While poking around the inside of my unit, I did notice one card is not seated as flush/deeply as the other. Not that this will make/break it (unit is running great), but something to note.

    As for a new SKU, if/when they drop, have them in stock and an ample supply of repair/swap units, I would not be adverse to sending mine in for a replacement just because, but as of now, I have no reason to do as such. ;)

    And yep, Da Egg has 'em for $2199, which for me would have STILL been brutal because I pay sales tax so it would run my current setup ($1935 total I paid) $2377.97 + $80 (extra HD) + $175 (Vista Ultimate OEM) + $289.99 (BR Drive) = $2961.00 to my door. Basically, I saved $1026.00 so that makes me a happy camper.
     

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    Aristotelhs2060 Notebook Virtuoso

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    so we speak about wholy new laptop or about the new shipment that will be better?
     
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    paradyne64 Notebook Guru

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    Hmm... Then I wonder if I should wait to RMA, to ensure they are totally out of W90VP's, so I can get the newer model as a replacement.
     
  18. scubahalo

    scubahalo Notebook Geek

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    Shsssssh! It's a secret. :rolleyes:
     
  19. -=$tR|k3r=-

    -=$tR|k3r=- Notebook Virtuoso

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    If they are out of stocks, they will simply repair yours..... new 4870 cards. Hmmmm, I wonder if the new SKU will have 4870 cards? :)
     
  20. Aristotelhs2060

    Aristotelhs2060 Notebook Virtuoso

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    thats for good for us that preordered already or not? the new sku is for us or not? come on !
     
  21. Quadzilla

    Quadzilla The eye is watching you

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    Aristotelhs2060 All this stuff is speculation right now so if you are that concerned then just wait a couple more weeks , it sounds like you have been waiting awhile already so whats another week or 2 going to hurt . be patient and outside of the Resellers(even they may not know yet) no one here knows anything certain yet so again its all guessing and hoping etc.
     
  22. Aristotelhs2060

    Aristotelhs2060 Notebook Virtuoso

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    hoping that the new shipment will be the w90? or something else? this is what i didnt understand.
     
  23. Aristotelhs2060

    Aristotelhs2060 Notebook Virtuoso

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    if you mean they may have a worse one we will cancel our orders. if better we wont :p

    if you are doing speculations i will do one more. 4890 maybe? if the asus was the first notebook with 4870s crossfire it can be the first with 4890 crossfire.
     
  24. Warhammer40k

    Warhammer40k Notebook Evangelist

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    In speaking with a few people @ ASUS the W90Vp is not going the way of the dinosaur. The X1 sporting the 2.8 Duo has officially been put to bed, being replaced with a new SKU the X2.

    I am almost certain that the reference in the review has specifically to do with their 2.8 DUO equiped W90 and not the entire W90 line.

    More than one source at ASUS has confirmed that the W90 is still a current production product X2 or A1. Its not "as supplies last".

    I wouldn't take one reviewer who doesn't site any source and run with it. I think people here have much more reliable sources to rely on information from.

    For those fence riders or worry worts by all means don't take my word for it, takes just a few momemts to figure it out for yourself.
     
  25. Quadzilla

    Quadzilla The eye is watching you

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    When i read that review and saw the part about the W90Vp being discontinued all i thought to myself was they left out the X1 part because yes Newegg has the item as deactivated so its no longer in production .
     
  26. scubahalo

    scubahalo Notebook Geek

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    It is rather entertaining if nothing else. And yes, I have no life. :D
     
  27. Warhammer40k

    Warhammer40k Notebook Evangelist

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    Exactly, April was the last production month for the X1. So basically a three month production run aka serial number series......92, 93 & 94.

    The latest production X2's have started to trickle in from Taiwan with the A1s arriving not to long after.
     
  28. Aristotelhs2060

    Aristotelhs2060 Notebook Virtuoso

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    the main problem here is that we paid so much money and we dont know what we are going to take. asus dont tell us anything at all. and futhermore we paid for w90 with certain specifications and we dont know what it will be like.

    the truth behind the unexplained delay comes foreword. thats for sure

    shame on ASUS.
     
  29. Warhammer40k

    Warhammer40k Notebook Evangelist

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    I wouldn't expect ASUS to put out any form of public statement regarding issues with a Laptop as it's not an issue of "safety". Now if their machines were prone to catching fire or causing some other hazard, then yes I'm sure current owners would have received a letter.

    Typical non safety issues are dealt with through the normal RMA process at the owners discression; as some owner's have reported no issues or issues they are willing to "deal" with. In those cases ASUS saved a buck or two and sill retain a happy customer.

    I can share with the frustration as I have RMA'd three X1's, with the latest being an April production run. I knew over a week ago that my 4th W90 is definately not going to be a DUO equiped X1 as they finished up production last month and all stock has been released. I'll now have to settle for a Quad equiped W90.
     
  30. Aristotelhs2060

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    ok i didnt mean the issues. one question. for how long is the w90 out of stock ? because since i recently first saw it it was out of stock.
     
  31. ViciousXUSMC

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    The quad is better anyways be happy :D
     
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    mplsjava Notebook Consultant

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    I would be interested in seeing a simple poll of W90 model and RMA or no RMA.

    I don't see a "poll" option when creating a thread. Can anyone help me out with this?
     
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    was thinking the same. What's the RMA count for X1, X2 and A1

    This would be an interesting factoid.
     
  34. Quadzilla

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    Someone should start a poll to put everyone elses minds at ease that are waiting for there machines to come . Since all W90s are equal aside from the CPU and Bluray it should just be W90vp and nothing more. Maybe some of the lurkers will atleast vote in the poll even if they never post .
     
  35. Vandit

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    Striker seems to be indicating the new W90s will have a new video card in them. 4890????
     
  36. kimdoocheol

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    looks like someting else entirely...

    Availability: Despite its success, ASUS has just ended production on the W90Vp so once the supply runs out at retail, the notebook won’t be coming back.

    We can only assume ASUS wouldn’t end production unless they had a better SKU in the works, but as of right now the company hasn’t announced a replacement for the W90Vp. This is still the most powerful notebook the company offers.
     
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    Lol no not a 4890 as nothing like that has been announced by ATI and wont be for sometime to come ,heck they dont even have DDR5 4870s that have been talked about for the past 6 months or more . Striker is only indicating that the W90's coming down the pipe should have all the kinks worked out of them and those kinks are mainly the video cards .
     
  38. -=$tR|k3r=-

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    I know Ken does.... already fired off an email, and I am awaiting his reply.

    I feel they certainly do.....and I believe both have indicated they will have a sufficient number of units, to fill their orders. My question is..... will there be further shipments, or will this be it? Judging from the 'FiringSquad' review, I am of the mind that few shipments, if any, are to follow.

    I find it interesting that this LATE review got posted on the now, further delayed shipment date, of 20 May 2009. Furthermore, this review clearly announces ASUS's decision to abruptly discontinue the W90Vp. The W90Vp was just released 19 Feb 2009..... and apparently will have a short life. I do not think this was a mis-quote or speculation on the part of 'FiringSquad'. IMO, this little tidbit was a very intentional seed passed on by ASUS. I may be incorrect in this, and it may only refer to the X1 model..... but I will not believe so, until I see further clarification. Regarding 'Availability', I interpret the 'FiringSquad' review to be speaking of the W90VP in general.

    I am very sorry I could not disclose information I am privy to..... I have sworn not to do so. On the left hand, I felt a sense of obligation and concerns for owners..... and thereby 'hinted' the best I could. On the right hand, I knew the information public, could possibly be injurious to certain parties, betray trust, and dry up source information. I knew full well, by hinting, this would be unpopular for some, but I hoped some would get the message. Clearly I was in a 'Catch 22' situation..... 'DARNED if I do, DARNED if I don't. In doing so, I have been accused of ego bolstering..... again, I apologize for any hard feeling, and I assure you, nothing here in NBR has been an ego boosting experience for me. In my case, it would have been better to have never received the information..... and the saying is true, 'Ignorance is Bliss'.

    Here, I am reminded of a very astute, insightful, and even haunting, posting made by ViciousXUSMC:

    He is very correct in his assertion, and easily done if you only care about self..... VERY difficult, if you have concerns for others caught in the crossfire. (no pun intended)

    I feel from an ethical perspective, ASUS should have initiated a full recall over a month ago, but apparently they choose not to go public.

    Anyhow, given what I know, ASUS's announcement (passing thru FiringSquad) does NOT come as a surprise! Folks, consider the issues seen with the W90Vp, the multitude of DOA Replacements (which I know the numbers are far higher than most realize), and above all, HOW ASUS IS HANDLING THEIR RMA CUSTOMERS..... and now the discontinuation announcement. The handwriting is on the wall..... for me anyhow!

    The W90Vp has NOT been a shining success (as the review indicates). What it has been, is a concept, the Dream Machine, highly anticipated, and highly desired by the mobile gaming community. Does it make good business sense, to discontinue what is successful and profitable! None whatsoever in my mind, and ASUS hurriedly opting to move on, speaks volumes in my mind. Like a great socially engineered marketing experiment, I feel very beta tested here..... and my efforts and time wasted. ASUS has learned what's HOT..... what's not..... learned from the mistakes, cutting the loses, and now will try to re-coupe..... moving on to next BIGGER/BETTER plan (new SKU).

    So, all of this said..... I will continue to monitor and evaluate this situation. In all honesty, I am of the mind to entirely abandon the W90Vp, but I will hold off for now, pending further thought on the matter. Throughout, really wanted the W90Vp to be a success, and I always tried to remain optimistic..... but the time has come for me to question, 'Am I supporting a lost cause' here?

    Though ASUS's announcement does not come at a surprise, I did not expect this to come so soon. I anticipated that ASUS would fix the issues, but I now question if they were ever fixable..... and if the next SKU will even feature the 4870 cards..... ??? If ASUS abandons it's W90Vp customers, I will no longer see reason, why I can not be more forthcoming at that time.

    Again, my apologies to those whom I have upset, and undoubtedly I'll get some flak from this posting, as well. Here lately, it seems difficult to have an opinion here, without getting a 'beat-down'. Anyhow, consider this just my thoughts and opinions..... we all have them. :)

    Best Regards To All..... and especially the current W90Vp owners!
     
  39. Quadzilla

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    Kim that review was talking about the W90-X1 which is no longer in production thats all , nothing more and nothing less . Id be happy to place a friendly bet that there is no new machine coming from Asus and everyone will be still getting the W90 just with the issues worked out of it finally. People read way to far in what the review said and took that as the W90 no longer exists.

    Edit: Im still saying its a typo on Firing squads part as they may not even know that there are other W90 models out there so it seemed like a blanket statement vs just a singular model.
     
  40. Sukondis

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    Wow 4 times! and they sent you a new one every time? That is quite surprising... I just called them up yesterday and they said we already replaced yours once and they are not going to replace it again. This time they are just going to repair it and leave it at that. They picked up my notebook this afternoon... now the wait begins.
     
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    well, from striker's comment, it doesn't seem so...
     
  42. Quadzilla

    Quadzilla The eye is watching you

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    Dont settle for anything less then what you paid for Sukondis, these machines are not 400 dollar netbooks and they need to get you right or you should demand a refund period . To say were just going to fix it and not replace it like there doing you a favor all the sudden when they are infact shipping bad product would be insulting to say the least .
     
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    seems I will cancel my order with Gentech. I hope the new AW is all it is hyped up to be. Damn. I need a new bad gaming laptop.......
     
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    so is the w90 discontinued, and we are going to get some lesser "dumbed down" version? that's basically what i got from striker's post, and this "new" sku... or am i just totally misreading between the lines?

    edit: yeah, i'm starting to have second thoughts... but like striker, i'll wait it out and see. i had ken already charge my card to make sure it went through, hopefully it won't be that much of a hassle if i cancel.
     
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    Here is a quote from Striker.

    Anyhow, consider this just my thoughts and opinions..... we all have them.

    He is right in everything he is saying but think of all the resellers sitting on pre orders ? what shall they do ? just call all there customers and say "ya Asus canned the whole W90 line up sorry" That aint happening this early in the game . Justin or Ken would have had knowledge of something like this long before firingsquad did believe you me as they are resellers and make a living off this .
     
  46. -=$tR|k3r=-

    -=$tR|k3r=- Notebook Virtuoso

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    Just my point of view..... and Quadzilla's comment has merit as well. We all will have our own perspectives here, and we have to decide for ourselves.

    :)
     
  47. Vandit

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    sorry. dp.
     
  48. kimdoocheol

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    quad, most resellers don't charge until the item is instock... also, please try to understand prospective buyers of the w90... i don't wanna invest 2.5k into a machine that isn't going to perform as advertised. the point being is, even if it does, whose to say that these problems won't arise later? also, going along with striker's "theme," whose to say asus will be able to fix these problems and just send out another crappy shipment?

    once again, this is my opinion, but i feel a lot of people feel this way... as a lot of people who purchased the w90 did it because it performs as well as some $3k+ lappys for a lot less... in other words, it is a very good "bang for the buck."
     
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    I already replied to this Vandit and there is NO NEW 4890 period . ATI would have had to make a public statement about this card coming long before it actually makes it into a model and guess what ?? they havent . Im curious why 4890 even entered into your thoughts ? New card in this case would be a revised version ie Fixed .
     
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    Dude if your that worried ill give you some sound advice and that is cancel your order period as your right , if your investing 2.5k into a machine and you have to babysit it everyday because of fears its going to crap out on you then your best bet is DONT!!. Wait till the M98nu comes out from sager or see what Alienwares new offerings are going to be as there prices have become alot more competitive these days.
     
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