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ok, this is what i was looking for. to see the impact of the whole test on the run. great score!

not going to lie here. i sure said they sucked, but it would appear they wern't in the right users hands....same thing i was preaching back then. when it got all blown out of proportion...lol

just like you and your clocks for the 260m...with out you pushing...everyone would still think they sucked at over clocking...

 

running both cards wasn't successful. System wouldn't boot up to windows when both GPUs are overvolted. Oh well...

 

can you boot using powersaver mode or does the over volt just automatically cancel it out.

 

nope, even with different voltage profiles and booting up with battery mode it won't boot to windows. It will load, but the screen will go black.

 

Sounds like a driver issue ? Or something but I'm noobish

 

well dammn, you got me all excited here ichime. this is real progress here..

ok, so what if you drop the voltage some?
reset the bios back to factory.
try booting into safe mode.

just throwing out some ideas here.

 

Tried all that. Conclusion is that two Master VBIOSES @ 1.2v won't boot up, but a Master @ 1.2v and a Slave VBIOS @ 1.2v boots up with no problem.

However, I did a run with both @ 650/950 and I only got 10.7k for the GPU score, haha. Probably drivers since it forced me to go with the older ones, though right after the RMA with a regular Master/Slave setup, Vantage gave me numbers in accordance with the norm.

I'll investigate.

 

Can yiu do 9.4 with master/slave?

 

Extremely strange ......

 

No the only way to get 9.4 installed was that way


Btw have we figured out why drivers won't install on the ms setup on there ?

 

ok, what about a master 1.2 and a master stock bios. it has to be faster than the normal setup and should be greater than your 11.7k gpu right?

 

Boom! I successfully installed Q9200 QAVR es version. So far so good. It's a little bit hotter than Q9000. Once I oc it stable at 2.96G by setfsb, but afterwards it could never exceed 2.8G
http://i688.photobucket.com/albums/vv243/dithell/Q9200MARK1.png

 

I took the liberty of replacing the image with a link as it was huge and completely destroyed the layout of the forum for me (and therefore I'm sure for many others).

 

Sorry to pop in with a nobbish question in the middle of your oc discussion, but seriously, HOW DO I DISABLE the ridiculous touch pad thing (permanently if poss) on the left of the keyboard.?

thx in advance.

 

Uninstall Asus Hotkey (I think it was called that).

 

Can anyone give me a quick list of what scores i should expect with stock setup and stock drivers on 3d mark 06 and on vantage, and if possible stock setup with 9,4 drivers. I got the dul core 9550 and would depserately like to compare my stock scores (if you also have it with the 17% overclok running that would be fkin awesome)

ballpark figures would be great.

 

Just for note, my scores

3dMark 06
Stock Drivers (Laptop just out of the bag)

No O/C 12400
17% O/C 13800

Do people concurr with these scores as average?

What sort of improvement can I expect to see if i flash the GPU and install 9.4s

 

Tried that, bluescreened while running in 3d @ 650mhz.

 

hummmmm, not good at all

and you tried 1.1v for both cards as well? did that get you any further into the os.

 

Master 1.1v + Master 1.1v works (both stock master VBIOSes)

Master 1.2v + Master 1.1v works but is limited by the card with the lower voltage

Master 1.2v + Master 1.2v doesn't boot to windows

Master 1.2v + Slave 1.2v works, but performance is lower due to drivers

Master 1.2v + Slave 1.1v works but also limited by lower voltage.

So my best bet to beat my current best is if I can get Catalyst 9.4 to work with a Master/Slave setup, which isn't the case yet.

 

I Wanna know why these cards are special in the case of drivers in a master slave setup because I'm Curious like that

 

Those ES chips really seem to have a high variance in their OC headroom (or perhaps its the x38?). My q9100 es runs stable at 2.9ghz, anything above that BSOD. My q9000 topped out at 2.7ghz. Not sure if the $150 extra was worth it...

I have noticed it takes a couple sessions for the thermal paste/temps to set. Maybe after a couple days you'll have better results.

 

That looks about around what I got. OC'ed to 2.7ghz with SetFSB you should get around 15000. Just Flashing and installing 9.4 won't really give you any improvement in 3dMark06 -- at least not that I noticed.

 

I noticed your sig, I have the 9550, not the q9000... still should expect those scores?, and what sort of speeds should i expect from using setfsb with the 9550, was running at 2831 on the 17% oc test. break 3 gig? or is 28ish about all I shoul expect?

 

that's exactly what i would have tested. nice!
and no joy from 9.4 up to 9.8 right...

that's the 100,000 dollar question there moo.

 

Dev id's are the same .... Possibly chopset ?

We have the asus inf why the he'll can't some one figure it out ?

 

It probably does boil down to the Chipset thats conflicting with everything . When i first got my W90 and started doing all the research on the X38 it all pointed back to nothing but problems with the Xfire and the X38. Ewrecked and myself tried countless different sets of drivers before the Master/Master thing was figured out but that seemed to all end at 9.4 when ATI decided to change the drivers again ...

 

hummmm, has anyone tried flashing them the other way?
the second card as master and the first card as slave. (if that's possible.)

 

My opinion is to dump these in a np9262

 

I don't think u can

I thought the xfire was handled by the mobo no x fire cable

 

Guys just to be clear, before I go ahead and do it, Flashing the GPU and upgrading drivers from 8.5 to 9.4, will give what sort of perfromance boost in playing games like:

COD 5
Call of Juarez
Far Cry 2

etc

Isd it actually worth it, or only really the move for obsessive Benchmarkers and tech heads?

please let me know, as I dont wann take the risk if its not worthwhile.

(ps. I have serached many many pages of this thread, but god damn there is so many)

 

Updating drivers to 9.4 will enhance performances but also fix a lot of bugs. I had flickering problems in Left 4 Dead that are gone since I installed 9.4 . Go for it.

 

Yes, it's absolutely worth it to flash/install 9.4 for improved performance and less bugs in games. Benchmarks don't really improve with 9.4, at least not that I noticed.

 

for games like COD 5 and Call of Juarez any improvement wont make an impact on the games because you'll be running at 40FPS +. Far Cry 2 you will see a difference if you Max everything out. anywhere from 5-7 FPS increase. If you place crysis you will see the difference in performance and bugs.

 

If youre running Win7, does the update to master/master and 9.4 work the same as it did in Vista ?

 

yep. i believe if you are using windows 7, you must have the master/master setup to run crossfire.

 

No luck. I'll keep experimenting with drivers when I have the chance. But right now, I'm going to enjoy some of the games I bought this weekend.

How did he figure it out anyways? He seemed to have changed just the inf, but the problem with 9.5 and up seems to be in the actual driver package i.e. the resource files used to install the drivers (the files in the B_xxxxx folder). I tried swapping some files to make a "Hybrid" driver, but nothing special came out of it or worth noting yet.

 

oh yeah? which games did you buy?

 

He never did figure anything out really and it all came down the the Master/Master issue to install anything from 9.1-9.4.

Back then i think the issue driving me insane was Code43 on the secondary GPU . On my whitebook now it was Code10 till ati released 9.7drivers for Windows7 which fixed that and everything has worked since then with there official mobile drivers .

 

need to try them then

 

Im sure they tried Windows 7 RTM by now on there ? and the ATI released mobility drivers , atleast i hope someone would have by now .

 

Oh you can but you wont be booting back up

I had to manually swap the cards when I had that setup and it was quite a task because the heatsink on the slave card prevented it from fitting in the master slot.

 

I am reading of between 15% and 25% boosty in games for the 9.6 drivers over the 9.4s

Is this a substantiated claim? and is it looking possible to get the 9.6s modded for the W90s?

 

dammn! i thought they we're probably the same. good you got it back right.

 

if the cards are the exact same i see no reason for the issue....

and the Xfire is handed through the MOBO correct?

if so ATI drivers might be having issues because of that

 

i use to think the same thing.
that's why we came up with the master/master vbios, but it seems things are changing yet again.

 

the laptop cannot physicall change ...

need to re-mod the 9.8's witht he same practice as E wrecked used and then install(TRY)

 

all that stuff has been tried Moo like doing what E-wrecked did etc but what im wondering is if anyone has tried the Windows 7 RTM(retail) client yet since they changed something from the beta releases of Win7 for xfire and the official ATI mobility drivers.

 

the problem is like all ati cards is the slave card.

according to what i see and my experience from the Ocz Whitebook(i know it doesn't have the same problem as the w90) but the main problem that i had was installing drivers to the slave card. it wasn't easy. mainly in windows 7 RC 7100 and up. i heard this issue is fixed but now on the w90 of course. and i heard it gives different errors.

i would like to dianose this issue with you all but i know that many people before me that has better knowlegde of what's going on has tried this but to no avail, it hasn't worked.


have any one tried different bios, since the M/M seemed to work for 9.4 has anyone tried the 4850 from the M17 or the Msi GT725??????????

if the device id is causing the problem or something deeper then that, then maybe the a different type of bios(the way the card is read) may fix this?

 

no one wanted to try that when i brought it up back then...because it was the 4850 and not a 4870

this will probably still hold true today, im afraid...