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    *Official ASUS W90Vp Owners' Lounge*

    Discussion in 'ASUS Reviews and Owners' Lounges' started by -=$tR|k3r=-, Feb 19, 2009.

  1. hmscott

    hmscott Notebook Nobel Laureate

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    Be aware, using Windows 7 chkdsk on a Vista partition may cause problems.

    I have been using the Windows 7 chkdsk for a while, off and on, depending which OS I am booting on. But, now I noticed that it was taking a long time to complete the chkdsk of my VistaX64 volume.

    Now that I am running chkdsk on the Vista volume while booted from Vista, I am seeing it repairing lots of index entries!!

    For years, I have found that the newer chkdsk worked better than the old one, including Vista chkdsk for Windows XP. This is the first time I have run across such a problem with a newer chkdsk on the previous OS version.

    BTW, I haven't had any crashes or power failures. I only run it as a double check during monthly maintenance. So AFAIK there was nothing wrong with the partition before the chkdsk was run.

    Oh well, I was going to reinstall from the restore DVD anyway before selling it :)

    BTW, it is up to "Inserting an index entry with Id 147xxx ...", and still going. Sigh.

    Update: 5+ hours later the Vista chkdsk completed (>500k index updates), and I am backing up my data. Vista booted, but none of my Applications will run.... weird.

    Update 2: 2+ hours later, after setting another chkdsk at boot under Vista, this time chkdsk spent most of the 2 hours doing security descriptor work, and after 1 more reboot and a brief time in chkdsk, Vista has booted and all of my applications are running again :)

    There might have been something else going on, but all I can think of is that I used Windows 7 chkdsk on the Vista partition, so again, be careful... I know I am not doing another disk check on the Vista partition from Windows 7 (or the other way around either).
     
  2. Mazdaspeed_6

    Mazdaspeed_6 Notebook Evangelist

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    anyone here play Need for speed Shift, Batman, or Resident evil 5 with their w90? any bugs if you have played these games?
     
  3. deathell

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    Batman froze after entering game for a few mintues(maybe overclocking the graphic cards too high is the reason)
    RE5: objects such as walls and gates are always flashing(just like broken old TV) in DX10 mode-all set to high. As for DX9 mode, entering the game takes very long time(maybe due to the game itself)
     
  4. Mugenski

    Mugenski Notebook Evangelist

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    gates and walls flashing... are they 2d? Maybe your still plagued by the gpu issues?
     
  5. deathell

    deathell Notebook Guru

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    the surfaces are flashing
    I heard that it was the issue of all ATI CF systems, not W90VP's
     
  6. Alexrose1uk

    Alexrose1uk Music, Media, Game

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    This was fixed with the 9.9 drivers.
     
  7. Mazdaspeed_6

    Mazdaspeed_6 Notebook Evangelist

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    Mugenski Notebook Evangelist

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    I could understand if those were videos of the w90 but of the alienware...? we really dont care for those videos here mazda unless your going to offer a fix for the w90. If not please stroll over to your alienware thread.
     
  9. Mazdaspeed_6

    Mazdaspeed_6 Notebook Evangelist

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    ok then mugenski i'll stop posting comparison. from now on. get your comparisons somewhere else.
     
  10. dondadah88

    dondadah88 Notebook Nobel Laureate

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    mugen, mazda had a w90 before anf he helped out alot. He just bought a m17x because if the problems with the w90. He even stated that the w90 stocked was faster then the m17x. I don't see anything wrong in a comparsion. No one is even really posting in the thread like they use to anyway.
     
  11. KIAEddZ

    KIAEddZ Notebook Guru

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    All 3 run perfectly on mine.
     
  12. Mazdaspeed_6

    Mazdaspeed_6 Notebook Evangelist

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    9.4 or stock drivers?
     
  13. Mugenski

    Mugenski Notebook Evangelist

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    Dont act like i havent followed the whole thread and the portrayed attitudes of different people towards the w90. If i remember correctly mazda really didnt have anything constructive to say about the w90 other then it was faster stock.

    I just dont see the point of someone posting about how his laptop can run a game and mine cant. Sure if his mx was running some ati cards and he was showing that the 9.9 driver fixes the issue (maybe to motivate more people to keep working on it) but no hes running nvidia. Sorry if im the only one who saw his post coming across as more of a bash then a 'comparison'.
     
  14. Mugenski

    Mugenski Notebook Evangelist

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    Can we get the date of manufacture for your notebook and if it ever went in for rma?
     
  15. Mazdaspeed_6

    Mazdaspeed_6 Notebook Evangelist

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    right dude. so your saying.... "you don't want to compare anything unless they are running 4870's?" i don't want to sound mean but i think i know more about the w90vp performance in games then you do. i ran a lot of game tests on mine. then i bought the m17x and ran the same tests on it. overall my opinion was that the w90vp was better for gaming. why don't you go buy a $2000 laptop of some type and run tests on it for everyone else. j/k

    I'm not here to bash the w90vp. i had issues with mine as well. i had it RMAed and then it worked out just fine afterward. i suggest you get a hold of Asus and ask them why your having problems with newer games. the only new game the w90 had problems with was bionic commando. i'm here posting because some w90vp owner's might want to compare their performances with other high end gaming laptop to see how their's is running. I'm always interested in how well other laptop's perform in games and high end apps. do you have a game or high end app i could test?
     
  16. doopeworld

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    Chilsdish behaviour...
    Why don't we focus on what really matter? join forces to get Asus make a driver working for us?
    We do not care about the w90/m17x little war...Soon there will be another laptop faster than those two.
    Of course a comparison is always good to see what games run better on ati or nvidia, but to know who has the best laptop??? it is like comparing our p..... at school!
    So please gentlemen.... Let's be constructive.....
     
  17. The_Moo™

    The_Moo™ Here we go again.....

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    4850's = 260's / 280's
     
  18. Mazdaspeed_6

    Mazdaspeed_6 Notebook Evangelist

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    i think the 4870's have the 280s beat. all these reviews saying that a single 280m is equal to the w90 4870x2 crossfireX is a joke. i was not impressed at the 260m from my M17x at all. i'm sure the 280m's are not much different from the 260m's. I just hope asus will update the GPU drivers when win7 is released. I see no reason why they shouldn't. so keep trying to mod those drivers, and if all fails, hope asus or amd releases new drivers for win7.
     
  19. The_Moo™

    The_Moo™ Here we go again.....

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    they have them beat if you overclock the 4850's
     
  20. dondadah88

    dondadah88 Notebook Nobel Laureate

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    that would have to be farther tested in my eyes. stocked and overclocked........
     
  21. The_Moo™

    The_Moo™ Here we go again.....

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    try scoreing over 7 k in vantage with a 280
     
  22. dondadah88

    dondadah88 Notebook Nobel Laureate

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    i will. :)
    i also have some threoy's behind that. and it's seems true.... but again i need more test subjects..
     
  23. Mazdaspeed_6

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    if alienware does release 4870's, their drivers might work with the w90 too. it's going to be released next month.
     
  24. dondadah88

    dondadah88 Notebook Nobel Laureate

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    mmmmm
    that's interesting. but i'll get the 280m's right now. i think the 4870 will beat the snot out of them but right now i'm going to see what i can do with the 280m's.
     
  25. Mugenski

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    No im not wanting to only compare to 4870's but with your little video there is nothing to compare. No fps, no chart no nothing. How am i or anyone else going to use that video to compare anything? So like i said before the only way i could see that video being constructive is if it was on ATI hardware to prove to the gentleman that was having issues that the driver update fixes it. But considering your on nvidia hardware what am i going to use that video for comparison wise? These notebooks preform so closely that im not going to be able to tell which is faster from a youtube video that cuts out half the frames. I have no issue with you running comparisons but actually give some data that can be used as such.

    Lastly this isnt about my laptop having issues with newer games. If i did i can pickup my laptop and drive the 20 minutes to asus repair depot here in canada, thats no issue for me - i deal with asus on a daily basis.
     
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    works both ways... 7k single card 12k dual cards.
     
  27. Mazdaspeed_6

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    ok. how do i get FPS to show while i record with FRAPS? i can't seem to figure it out. thanks in advance.
     
  28. dondadah88

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    don't record with fraps. big performance decrease.
     
  29. Mazdaspeed_6

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    all the other programs are pretty close in recording de-performance.(i know it's not a word)
     
  30. dondadah88

    dondadah88 Notebook Nobel Laureate

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    Lol. I know. Don't worry about the video.... Just how you can compare it to your w90.
     
  31. DPi

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    Hi there,

    I'm new to the forum and have just recently picked up the W90vp after upgrading from the Rock XCTXtreme. The model I have is W90VP-UZ046J and have been reading about putting the Catalyst 9.4 drivers on there (as it seems those are what most people are using).

    I read through the W90 Limit Breaker Guide (I assume that info applies to the W90vp) but was wondering if there were any official drivers since then that were available that didn't involve modding anything. From what I've read it sounds like a few people have had issues when trying to do this and not being the most techy myself, wouldn't want to run that risk also.

    Cheers.
     
  32. wwoods

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    The only official drivers are the ones that came with the system, ASUS and the resellers it seems have given us all the big FU....
     
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    Hi DPi,
    If you are a gamer I would say that using the guide to update to 9.4 is a no-brainer. ViciousXUSMC's step-by-step instructions are super easy to follow and you will see significant improvements in comparison to the the stock drivers.

    We (W90vp owners) are all hoping that the articles posted regarding ASUS updating the drivers is going to happen, for now this is our best fix.
     
  34. DPi

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    Marvellous. The laptop is pretty new over here in the UK and ASUS have stopped supporting it ?

    To be honest, I'm not totally surprised, near every laptop I've had there has always been really poor follow on support from the manufacturers with regards to modded files to support their laptop based cards. :(
     
  35. DPi

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    Thanks mplsjava. Yeah, I do enjoy the odd game, so I guess I will need to brave it and go through the instructions. Such a shame though that it is left to the owners of the machines to get around the lack of support.

    EDIT: Just out of interest, what settings did you all choose ? I will be using Ken's bootable CD and would want to make sure that Crossfire is still enabled whilst still being stable. I was going to select MSTR-OC and SLAV-OC, is this right ?
     
  36. wwoods

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    It gets even better if you plan are useing Win7 or plan on it..NONE of the vid drivers work correctly, no Xfire support.....nada. One card works, period. Yea for ASUS and resellers..........
     
  37. mplsjava

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    You want to flash the slave card to master. I personally did not flash the overclock bios on the cards, I just wanted the ability to install the 9.4 drivers. Just follow the guide step by step and you will be fine.
     
  38. DPi

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    All done, and both cards in Device Manager renamed to 4870X2M. Like you said, it was very simple to do, cheers.

    [​IMG]

    Strangely though, I ran both 3dmark06 and a bench test on Trackmania and there is zero performance increase. Its nice to have a more up to date driver, but I did expect some increase in performance.

    Maybe those two programs aren't the best gauge as I have found 3dmark06 scores affected far more with CPU adjustments rather than GPU. The CPU isn't something I have tweaked, I simply have it set to overclocked mode via Turbo Gear.
     
  39. Mazdaspeed_6

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    you won't really see any real increase in those programs. Futuremarks might increase a little. but real time gaming increases big time. especially games like farcry 2 and crysis/warhead.
     
  40. DPi

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    Never had a PC capable of running any of those until now so I see a few purchases coming up. :)

    I'm currently overclocking the CPU by 17% using the Turbo Gear option with no problems. What have people found a generally safe level to overclock to ?

    I read earlier in the thread that if the cards were set to master/master then Crossfire will work in Windows 7, is this not the case ?
     
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    My first post :D
    I will own this beast soon :D
    Where are the articles posted regarding ASUS updating the drivers if u dont mind me asking..?

    oh n by the way, I read the 965 pages in the last 3 days ...glued to the screen, great to see such support from owners :D
     
  42. scubahalo

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    The 9.4's work perfectly under Windows 7 64-bit using Vicious' guide. I've pointed this out to you before. What's the problem?
     
  43. BobXX

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    lol, that's quite a feat. I got tired of reading about people's complaints, problems, and RMA's like half way through... :D
     
  44. DPi

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    Well I've only had the laptop for a few days now, but it is a stunning piece of kit. I used to own an Alienware, moved on to Rock, had issues with both regarding their build quality and CS and on both machines found that its the users themselves that bring out the best of the capabilities of the machines because the manufacturers were slack with updating drivers.

    All the information you need regarding updating the GFX drivers is - HERE. I chose to use Ken's bootable iso which made it a doddle, and it really is a breeze to install after that if you follow all of the points.

    Now, if only I could get Trackmania to use Crossfire. :rolleyes:
     
  45. DPi

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    This is good news as I have an upgrade option to Windows 7 and have never really gotten on with Vista.
     
  46. hmscott

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    You can test your laptop's reliability by running some long term tests to check for instability (computational errors). If the test loads up both cores to 100%, run it for a long period to see if you get errors, hangs, crashes.

    I use Prime95, in memory heavy mode for checking memory overclocks, and CPU heavy mode for reliability/temperature testing.

    http://www.mersenne.org/

    The nice thing about Prime95, it will actually show computational errors from thermal related errors before hanging/crashing, which lets you catch the limits of overclocking without needing to go through reboots :)

    My W90vp-X1 runs at 17% overclock (3.289Ghz) just fine. It passed prime95, and I have tested it with Boinc as well. The cooling system on the W90vp is excellent, and even with 100% CPU load it stays quiet and cool.

    http://boinc.berkeley.edu/

    Although I am not a fan of .ru domain sites, this is a pretty comprehensive list of benchmark programs you can use to test performance and stress test for thermal issues.

    I wouldn't download from this site, but for each benchmark there are links for homepages / screenshots of each program, and again it is a pretty comprehensive list.

    http://www.benchmarkhq.ru/be_cpu.html

    If anyone else knows if this site is safe/not_safe, please let us know.

    You can also overclock the GPU via the ATI control panel, or Rivatuner (others as well):

    http://downloads.guru3d.com/download.php?det=163

    guru3d is a site I frequent, and has lots of good reviews, news, and downloads.

    Except for benchmarks, and scoping out what a system can do, I run at stock speeds, as at 2.8Ghz, and Dual GPU's, the W90vp-x1 is plenty fast :)
     
  47. mplsjava

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    I believe the article was first posted by dondadah88 a few pages back in this thread, so if you went through every page you must have read it... :D

    Here is the link...
    http://www.brightsideofnews.com/new...ins-silent-on-its-crossfire-driver-snafu.aspx
     
  48. wwoods

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    I must disagree, the CCC as posted in that guide does not work, that is not quite perfect is it ?
     
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    That may be true, but you can run the CCC from later versions over the modded 9.4's without a hitch. That's been posted on this board many times.
     
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    Just want to ask does anyone have a actuell pic of Mobility 4870 in W90? Is there anywhere i can buy one? Thanks~~~~~~~
     
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