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If thats the case then I can only see it being either the vbios and hardware ID, or the mobo preventing newer mobility modded drivers working. Those cards look almost identical to mine bar hynix ram over qimonda, and crossfire connector positioning. I would guess the hynix might be rated a little higher as your clocks are 550/600 or something arent they? Its not the slave/master thing either as mine are configured the same. If someone could force flash even just your slave card it might work.

 

Didn't narrow much

 

LOL I know, but being honest I expect it to be a bios thing more than mobo, because the chipset will have been designed for more than this laptop, and drivers are designed to be hardware irrespective, and you mentioned elsewhere that the master card from these doesnt like other machines, again suggesting a tampered vbios to me. At least its now confirmed its not lack of xfire cable.

 

I just hate Asus

The design was horrible if you just sit and think of every thing tried it really streches your realms of thinking and it's like a huge puzzle

 

Oh I agree, its a horrible setup by ASUS, especially as they CBA to support the thing, its just trying to find workarounds with new resources.

 

Windows 7 utilities x86/x64 ( including TurboGear) for G72GX - work for W90vp ( sorry if this was posted before )
at http://support.asus.com/download/download.aspx?modelname=G72GX&SLanguage=en-us

 

I normally run at 3.0ghz stable. I was able to push it a little further but ended up picking 3.0 since I wanted CPU longevity. The 120vertex is my main OS drive and so far I've had no trouble. I implemented some of the suggested ssd tips/tweaks found around the internet. Turned off my pagefile and disabled defrag as well. I use the Intel for my applications/games and I couldn't be happier. WoW loads fast.

 

Hi,
how can you run it stable @ 3.00Ghz ? mine wont pass 2.82....

 

take out 8 gb of your ram and then try it.

 

Dang that sucks... here is what i normally set to. Is your chip an ES?

 

Hello,
yes it is an ES. when i used to have 6GB of ram, i could run it to 3.17Ghz... i posted some pics on vicious guide. But now i have 12Gb of ram i cant get passed 2.82, what are your drivers? and did you turn turbogear off in bios?

 

How are you able to use it if it's too small to fit W90VP?

 

well ram comsumes alot of power. so removing ram would allow more power to be available to the cpu.

 

Turbogear is on in bios, but I'm not using it. I did disable CPU speedstep. As for drivers, when I installed the OS, I used all of the x64 Asus drivers and subsequently have kept Windows up-to-date. Was there a specific driver you were interested in?

Do you still have the old ram to verify you can still hit 3.17 with it?

 

gaffahead, re-read my statement (that you quoted), particularly this part:

" , but the main area has plenty of room." ... *for the laptop* was implied

The fitted laptop area is a bit too tight for the thickness of the W90vp-x1, but the main area has plenty of room for the W90vp-x1.

Check out the photos for the Kitchen Sink laptop backpack on the Oakley site, 3rd photo in from the list of photo thumbs under the big picture of the bag.

http://www.oakley.com/catalog/products/kitchen-sink-backpack

The open top picture shows the fitted area connected to the back of the bag, but the main area in front of the fitted area is much larger.

http://www.oakley.com/a/89/00/BAh7CGkKIggweDBpC2wrB1A-lElpCGkCO24.jpg

 

Hello,
Are you sure that your new ram works at the same frequency as the old ram ?

 

Hello,
i bought the ram directly from ken@ gentech because im in france and i could ot buy it elsewhere than in the USA, and since e-stores would not ship overseas i had to deal with ken directly, he sent me samsung brand saying it was the best, i trust him on that, and when i run CPU-Z, it says 400Mhz on each ram, which is normal since it is dual channel. I do not understand where it got messed up lol. i recently went back to vista so i will have to try it again...
One thing tho, when i leave turbogear ON in the bios, the ram only runs at 667Mhz, i have to turn it off to have the ram running at 800Mhz.

 

Cool un français !

Le QX9300 a une FSB de 1066 Mhz donc tu dois utiliser de la ram tournant à la même fréquence c'est à dire de la PC3-8500/DDR3-1066 :
http://www.rue-montgallet.com/prix/comparer,memoire-vive,103,1,1,1,153=730,155=eq1066

 

Salut!
le probleme est que le W90 ne supporte que de la DDR2.....

 

La 8500 existe aussi en DDR2 (heureusement).

 

Hi! the problem is that the w90 only supports ddr2 .....

The QX9300 has a 1066MHz FSB then you should use the ram running at the same frequency ie the pc3-8500/ddr3-1066

The 8500 is also ddr2 (thankfully).

 

Thanks for the translation !
Anyway, nothing's new on the drivers side ?
The Catalyst 9.9 are out...

I've been on the AMD/ATI and the Asus message boards and the situation is stucked.

ATI says that it's Asus' job to make the drivers because they didn't use the reference design for the X2.

Asus doesn't care : they stopped the production of the W90 and they are not forced to produce new drivers because it's not part of the support : they consider that the W90 already "works" with the stock drivers.

The guys from driverheaven can't really help because the problem (crossfire disabled with catalyst > 9.4) seems to come from the ccc and not the drivers itself.

So ? We're f*cked ?

PS : we're not alone !
http://www.brightsideofnews.com/new...ins-silent-on-its-crossfire-driver-snafu.aspx

 

I recently installed windows 7 on my old desktop. During the installation
there was an option to upgrade leaving all programs and settings from my old windows installation. I want to upgrade my W-90 to windows 7. I am using the limit breaker guide with the 9.4 drivers and the master master bios set up. If I use the upgrade will all my settings from the limit breaker guide remain? I am happy with the way my w-90 Is working. Has anyone done the Windows 7 upgrade on the W-90 and did it change the limite breaker guide and video driver settings?

 

Yes we are fscked, ASUS, XOTICPC and GENTECH all have basically left us out in the cold, they have our money and have said screw the customer. How nice of them, well I for one will never buy from ASUS, GENTECH or XOTICPC again.

 

sgamble : a friend of mine has moved to 7 and successfully done the limit breaker guide. So yes, it works on 7.

wwoods : at the end of the article I quoted, it's said that Ati will spend a few buck to develop decent drivers. Maybe one day I will happen and maybe the release of DX11 will make the things move.

 

Here you go again with your poison. This is on Asus, not xoticpc or gentech. They just sold the laptop. They aren't the ones that manufactured any defective machines or decided to not provide drivers. Get over yourself and quit pointing fingers at the middleman. Spend your efforts harping Asus instead, then you will be doing something useful for the community instead of being a bitter consumer.

 

Wwoods, dont put this blame on Gentech and Xoticpc. We've been through this all before. Ken and Justin are out here to make a living doing what they do best - selling notebooks. I for one figured driver support would be pretty ghetto for this notebook and surprise surprise it is. Most notebooks are like this and if your going to try and blame the resellers then just shutup. Ken and Justin DO NOT have the ability to write us new drivers nor do they have the power or money behind them to force Asus to do so. Its not their fault and i will not stand to watch you accuse someone of something they can do nothing about. Its simply not fair you ripping on them like that. Your choice to not buy from them is your choice but dont go spreading rumors saying they left us out in the cold, they did the best they could and now its down to us the consumer to fight for what we want. If we want drivers then we have to pressure asus or find a work around ourselves. The owners of this notebook have way more resources and push then Ken or Justin have with Asus in the end.

Now onto the drivers issues. Crossfire after 9.4 doesn't work despite the drivers working on one card and people are lead to believe its a CCC issue. Can we keep an old ccc (stock or 9.4) and install the new drivers or is the new CCC required by the new drivers? (id test this for myself if i wasnt at work and needing my laptop to be functional).

 

Call it what you will, it is true true, and I have been calling and writing to ASUS....so please stop telling me what I shoud be doing. And, yes, XOTICPC (who I bought from in this case) and GENTECH are just at culpable as ASUS in this, because both resellers knowingly continued to sell thios with its KNOWN problems.

 

I will place the blame on GENTECH and XOTICPC as well as ASUS, because TBH,,,they are just as much to blame, and they did leave us in the cold.

Now, as you say on to driver issues. I am off work for the next few days on vacation and can do some tests if you wish, understand I am running Windows7 RTM from technet, but can still do tests. Any specific driver/CCC combo you wish tested out ? It would also be trivial to load a Fresh VISTA install on this thing as I have images backed up.

 

Well before you try anything does anyone recall trying 9.4 catalyst with the new drivers? I know we can get the drivers installed but the second card gives error 43 or gpuz says crossfires disabled.

If you want to give it a shot on win7 first here's what id try wwoods. Keep 9.4ccc and try the newest ati driver release and see what/if any results you get. Should install on the primary card atleast.

Trying the same process on vista would be good as well.

If anyone's tried stock ccc or 9.4ccc please speak up so were not repeating old things already tried.

 

man. all this blaming. if i was blaming anyone, i would blame myself before others. if you aren't happy with the laptop, sell it and buy something else. i don't think anyone else on this forum wants to hear about the same problems over and over and over again.

 

People should be aware that buying a notebook is not the same as buying a regular computer, particularly about the drivers.With the W90, we combine several problems :

1)it's an ATI. nVidia drivers are always better since they work close with the developpers (the program The Way It's Meant To Be Played)
2)it's two ATI in crossfire. Crossfire and SLI still are complicated solutions and arent' used by many people.
3)it's two ATI mobility cards.

Before I had an XPS M1710 and I had the same drivers problem. The funny thing is that now nvidia has some pretty good mobility drivers ^^

Anyway Asus position is really lame but despite the drivers problems, the W90 is an awesome notebook. Bioshock and other games run at 50-60fps in 1080p with full details on. So f*ck Asus. We must try ourself to fix the situation and hope for better drivers from ATI.

 

So true. If your buying a high performance notebook don't expect any driver updates past what makes the notebook functional. I expected that when i purchased and im happy with the current drivers. My gpus still have hardware issues with flickering (I spend to much time gaming after work to want to send my notebook in for gpu replacement so i live with the flickering for now)

But in all honesty the blame game does need to stop and we dont need to hear about anymore gripes /problems. At this point in time we know the ups and downs of this notebook, nows the time to work through the issues. This thread is here now to hopefully allow us to improve on the current drivers and specific issues of this notebook. Now lets get round to increasing performance and hopefully put up more respectable numbers against that alienware

 

Well, thanks to AW fu***ng me over, Im likely to get an M17x with 4870s, if I can help you guys at all with bios for comparison etc, just let me know and I will do whatever I can, I appreciate you must not want to see that, but i really do empathise and hate the situation ASSus have created here; yes the machine works, but you expect more from a gaming machine!

I only hope the default AW M17x 4870 drivers are recent!

 

That sucks axel, Asus support here in Canada is phenomenal.

Alright could we perhaps see a bios and figure out if both cards are running the same bios or if its a master/slave setup.

 

i'm pretty sure the bios are completely different. seeing that the m17x is gddr5 and 1gb vram.

 

I've yet to send an email to Asus about lack of driver support... What's the most effective email address to send my disdain to?

 

I haven't read the whole thread, but has anyone tried flashing to Alienware 4850' bios, the ones found in the m17 (NOT m17x)? Those are 4850 gddr3 crossfire cards.

 

Asfar as i know darth - no no ones attempted that. If i can get some bios' i might have some time over the weekend to try it but i need to lay out all the steps to blind flash back incase i eff it up.

As for where to direct your email, personally id call and try to talk to a manager at one of the depots. Express your complaints and see what they say. Maybe a new driver for windows 7? Well just have to see.

 

Ichime tried from mine. He failed due to the hardware IDs being different, however it might still be forceable, the IDs were never going to be identical, some flashing software will allow you to 'force flash' and override the protection. If you were going to try it, I'd get the BIOS from Ichime and just try using the slave bios on your slave card first!

 

I just installed Windows 7 and only one card is working. Can someone send link to latest windows 7 guide and files to get both cards working on the w90 with windows 7 ? Thanks Sgamble

 

my 2 cents,
the most up to date i was able to do with the video cards is:
9.4 Drivers with 9.9 CCC with Crossfire working (both Vista and 7).

i personally think that Asus will have to do something about the drivers, as i (and many other) have ordered the "FREE" windows 7 upgrade from Asus and since stock video bios do not work. they will have to update the drivers (at least once).

All the others drivers for windows 7(except video) from other Gaming latop from Asus work on the w90vp.

 

It's the same as for Vista :
http://forum.notebookreview.com/showthread.php?t=391294

 

What program/utility do you guys use? I have flashed a 9800m gt card a billion times and every time I had to force it because it complained of differences, but it worked nonetheless.

 

Im not sure what they were using unfortunately but yeah, thats pretty much the same thought I had, having similar force flash experiences with desktops. Although as I say, Id probably try only flashing the slave card first (to see if it works, as you can survive without the slave card til its reflashed back)


The other thing is if you were using the mobility modded drivers, these seem to work fine on your primary GPU but not the secondary, so if you flashed the secondary card, with the 4850 bios; with new drivers, it might crossfire the '4870' with the 4850, even if you hadnt flashed the master card ...if you get my line of thought, this sort of pairing is definately available on desktops, so with both cards being supported by the driver suite (the secondary card using the supported 4850 bios) you might circumvent the driver lock, and also reduce the risk of getting a displayless laptop compared to force flashing both primary and secondary cards at once!

If you COULD flash the secondary card with a 4850m slave BIOS, and new bios did work, or at least didnt give a code43 on the second card like the current newer drivers get (even if it didnt allow crossfire) it would at least prove or disprove whether the motherboard is causing the driver problems; or whether it's the cards themselves/the custom VBIOS.

@Ichime - do you still have those BIOS I sent so Darth could borrow them?

 

I've read through every single page of this thread, and several others on other boards. I'll be the very first to admit that when it comes to drivers etc I'm an absolute noob.

I have a few questions that I still haven't found the answer to:

1. Does my W90VP-X2 with the 4870x2 card have a current driver that allows the crossfire between the two chips on the one card to act in unison?

2. Is there some workaround that anyone has found that successfully does this? (I read the entire "Limit Breaker Guide" before asking this, but again, as a total noob, it was like reading a totally different language, so it might have, but I didn't see it in there)

3. Is there any chance, from those of you with the X2 AND experience with the new Windows 7, that the 4870x2 crossfire issue will be resolved?

Thanks in advance for your help. Please keep in mind when answering that I'm at an absolute base level of understanding all the jargon.

 

1. There are really two cards and they can't act in unisson like an standard X2 model. Our drivers problems would be resolved is that was the case
2. Nop
3. The Breakers Limits Guide works also for 7 and allows to event decent drivers and crossfire working on 7.

 

A quick question, I'm running the pre-installed OS (Vista Ultimate 64) on my W90vp and have already done the Limit Breaker Guide. If I was to upgrade to Windows 7, I'm assuming that both cards will still just automatically work or will I need to go through the guide again ?

Thanks.

 

you will need to do the drivers guide again. when you upgrade to windows 7, the ATI drivers will be deleted.

 

Hello all
I'm seeking the linux video card driver for my laptop, can you tell me what can i do ?
Thanks.