*Official ASUS W90Vp Owners' Lounge*

Probably a little pain and laughter both rolled into one .

 

I think with all of the RTSs I play, I'll be pleased with the Q9000. I don't own many games that require too much from the CPU. I'd rather be able to upgrade, play games in the future, than have super awesome gaming right now. I don't really care for all that much that's out. I'm just waiting for SCII and Diablo III.

 

Best media player i used to date is media monkey gold. if you havent trie it i suggest you to.

 

Everything I can think of multimedia related is multithreaded. Not sure why you hate the q9000 so much but there has to be more to your problem than just the cpu.

I guess we will know for sure in a week or so when I get the A1 model (well if its working lol) besides even full 1080p does not take much an old school single core can run that fine. My EEE 1000H with a single core 1.6ghz atom is playing my mp3s right now and can play 720p movies without problems. The atom is slower clock for clock than the core series. So almost without a doubt I cant see how the q9000 would fail you for anything multimedia related.

Only in a few gaming situations am I thinking the dual may be better, but I have yet to see how much better and if overclocking is going to fix those few problems.

 

nah, i wasn't laughing till i read your reply..lol

 

I don't know, But when I play mp3s from VLC media player, it is like to stuck sometimes (like a broken CDs), especially when running multi task at the same time, but when I change to other player (WMP, iTUnes) it sounds find (almost thought something wrong with the soundcard, speakers, or earphone).
Sadly but truly, something maybe wrong with VLC too.

 

I hope so. Everyday I go to Xotic and am just like F5, F5, F5, F5, F5, F5 eat, sleep, F5, F5, F5, F5, F5, F5 .

 

try regular media monkey and kmplayer.

 

Indeed mah friend, indeed.

 

Off topic people, while I'm waiting on Newegg, to sell me W90, has anyone heard of these guys?
http://www.cyberpowerpc.com/system/Xplorer_X7-8800_Notebook/detail

 

CyberPower has been around for a while, but the Better Business Bureau has some mixed ratings on them last time I recall. I'm convinced XoticPC is the best custom laptop seller/reseller you can find right now.

 

hi,

thank you for your response.

could you please give detailed information on what exactly caused the malfunction on so many w90 that they have to get sent back?

as it was said by some asus-employees the problems were not only caused by software-related problems and that there were also incident with the hardware.

this would also explain, why the systems had to get a rma and replaced instead of repaired by flashing a proper bios/firmware/driver without rma.

so what hardwaredefects occured on the early w90?

thank you for your participation.

 

by the way on the 17' native res is 1280x1024? Any one know when newegg will have w90 in?
I got 2 weeks left till I leave for europe.... come on

 

I think it's 1920 x 1280?

 

Close native on a 17inch is 1920x1200 if its a Wuxga screen.

 

Ken @ Gentech told me about a week, if you pre-order and go for 2 day or overnight thats probably a more guaranteed bet than the lotto that is newegg. Plus you get the better model.

I'll give the date soon as he gets it and tells me. Im sure its before 2 weeks though unless Asus holds up the shipment to fix some issues.

 

Xotic and Genthech both sell then with quads, I would prefer p9600 actually, as we discussed here its better for gaming

 

I just want them to change the date on Xotic from ETA - END OF MARCH to Tomorrowlol. I wonder how long it will take to get to Iraq?... I go to an 11 day course on the 6th, and I want to see my Asus before I go for extra motivation

 

So... if the quads are not from Asus, does that mean those of us who ordered from xotic aren't going to have the factory overclocking option? Is that just for the Core2Duos?

I understand that we can do it ourselves, but I would much prefer an overclock from the manufacturer, tested and covered by their warranty.

 

The Q9000 is standard on the A1, not the X1.

 

yeah...... so... will there be a factory overclocking function?

I is cunfuzzled.

 

I would certainly imagine so. I don't think a "higher level' model would be without the features of a lower class model. I might be wrong though! I might be.

 

It is questionable, with TDP power 45w, higher than T9600
But someone from other place overclock a QX9300 up to 4GHz...

 

Your best bet is just to email Xotic , all we have done so far is speculate on how they are handling the warranty for all the Quads, though i do believe the Q9000 is standard and would be covered under Asus warranty, we are just not sure about the rest of the Quads.

 

Just noticed on xotic's site:

Okay, so it sounds like the Q9000 is covered by Asus.

Assuming that the factory overclocking feature will be included, I feel a little better about purchasing the Q9000. Overclocked, they will run at what, about 2.3 Ghz? That's respectable even if not all four cores are being utilized by a game/program.
2.0 Ghz and some of Striker's comments about his previous Q9000 worried me, but if it can hit somewhere near 2.3 under warranty it should be fine.

I hope.

 

I think the Q9000 is a wise investment, and I would've just waited for an A1 if I thought otherwise.

 

Seeing as how the other two Quads options are only offered at their aftermarket retail prices, they definitely don't seem to qualify as "standard". My guess is that resellers will provide their own warranty on these sales. Just speculation...

 

Yeah, the voiding of the warranty is weak sauce....because you KNOW there will plenty of us who still smack a Q9100/QX9300 in there. But I just don't like the Turbo OC only. I'd like to find a good sweet spot with multipliers or a combination of both (Tweak the memory for best bandwidth latency, lock it in, then Multiplier OC to the CPU's sweet spot). If I had to choose, I'd prefer Multiplier OC'ing.

Then again, we haven't seen a X9100/QX9300 in there yet, so who knows?

The fact it is currently so close to the Whitebook scores and it isn't like ATI and others aren't familiar with the 4800 Core is a smidge disheartening.

Can't wait for someone to tear it open and get a real good look of the insides and see how it does with a X9100/QX9300 in there.

 

I pre-orderd my A1 today from Xotic... Just to let you guys know that the live chat works amazing. Justin came on right away both times i've used it and has been a great help.
Hopefully it will ship out at the end of the month and i can post some bench's.
The only thing i added was the silver (can't hurt and Justin told me it won't delay the order). Also the 2 hdd's are independant.. but it shouldn't be a problem setting them up in raid 0.

 

so the inside of W90 hasn't revealed yet?
dammn, I really want to look at the internal hardware layout...

 

it's been revealed, we just want to see a few other things...like the numbers on them cards for instance...

 

do you have any link to images showing the internal H/W layout of W90?

 

http://pctuning.tyden.cz/index.php?...=view&id=12658&Itemid=84&limit=1&limitstart=0

 

Here is the image Kinc (the 20,000 3DMark guy) posted on another forum:

 

^^
LOL, turns out I already saw the above image before, just forgot where i saw it and what I saw...

I guess I didn't have that much interest in W90 before, so any details and review I saw just passed my memory

Thanks anyway for both of you, John and Gothic

 

Since most of you have been discussing about replacing the cpu on your own, what is the best quad and dual core cpu that is compatible with the motherboard?

I'm guessing best quad is the qx9300? As for dual core, is the best one the t9800?

 

That's cool, but what we need is a pic with the GPUs exposed.

@ zergslayer: yes and no. The 3.06Ghz X9100 is currently the top dual core.

 

X9100 for sale at $977 in Ava Direct...

 

In terms of price to performance, isn't the x9100 only 100mhz more than the t9800 at the cost of hundreds more *and* it also runs hotter therefore creating even less room for a higher overclock? (at least on ebay, the x9100 is about 150ish more than the t9800)

 

the x9100 should be a intel extreme processor - no multiplicator-lock!

 

Oh I didn't mean the technicalities. I was thinking about the overall heat generated. The hotter something is, the less room you have to take it over it's default limit. Then again I'm not a pro at overclocking, but through common sense I think that's how it works.

And are you saying the t9800 is locked and un-overclockable?

Man, xoticpc should just allow a t9600 cpu choice. Not like they'll be handing it out for free, I'd gladly pay like 100 extra bucks for it over the quad for general real life usage.

 

the t9800 is overclockable, but just by changing the frequency of the fsb - as the internal multiplicator is locked.

as said before, on extreme processors you can change the multiplicator, wich gives you more room and possibilities to overclock as you can find the perfect combination of multiplicator and fsb for your system.

 

Hmm, well I guess I'll know what all that means when I actually try overclocking one of these days. So far I've only undervolted as far as cpu tweaking goes. Good ol notebookreview undervolting guide.

Is there a guide here for overclocking?

 

What ever happened to the fabled drivers Asus promised?

 

A T9800 will hit a thermal wall long before it hits an FSB wall.

 

Hmm, so between a t9800 and that q9000, which should theoretically overclock more (in comparison to itself, not directly to each other, although that's fine also)?

 

asus dint overnight it to me but did a 3 day saver something ASUUUUUUUUUUUUUUSS...

 

Thats a bummer Glad its on its way back though and im sure youll be happy in a err few days .

 

The unlocked cpu multi of an x series intel cpu can not be put to use in most notebook systesms. Its a bios enabled feature and if it is not in your bios you cant change it.

So take away the only real difference the x series has over the other cpu's and its already overpriced cost seems even less attractive.

Some will still get it simiply because it is the fastest cpu, and chances are they are of the top quality silicon and binning allowing for a higher general overclock than a lesser cpu. However that is no guarantee.

 

don't know what is up with the x9100 series though. that chip ran way hotter than need be. most of the extremes run cooler than their counter parts or cpus in their range. X signifying an unlock multiplier which most notebooks don't use. with the exception of the ocz whitebook. so as of right now, extremes are almost a useless purchase for a laptop. i bought one for this because it's a desktop cpu and can be ran at full potential in a desktop computer or ran in a desknote/clevo d901c/np9262 with idle temps of 31/31/36/36 and max at like 50 on all four cores. far lower than the q9650. if you check your desktop cpu..it's no where near this.(97 percent at least)
x series also have a better chance at being over clocked higher, which is a well know fact in the over clocking community. people use to use the cheap mans quad cpu (q6600) and over clock it. this cpu had a dammn good range when over clocked. now that they unlocked the fsb on a few gaming laptops, this allows for over clocking of just about any cpu on the market.(if your laptop is supported) also kills the need for an extreme cpu as well. if the t or p series you use has the same cache/speed, other wise the extreme will still be faster in the end.

this is a generalization and not a 100 percent accurate fact. no need to dissect it.