*Official ASUS W90Vp Owners' Lounge*

during the waiting for my w90 to come back to me i read these posts everyday. but latley, you guys have been slacking on posting. i mean its been at least 15-20 minutes since a new post... pick up the pace!

mine was supposed to out today but apparently its listed back in "repair"=-/

 

Haha, is not that it is slacking, but the fact that some of them have their W90 vp rmaed, and with the topic problem "ALMOST" finished, almost nothing to talk right now except waiting for the A1 version and then re-compare two of them

 

All the people that own one at this point and have it working are not regulars around here by any means , thats why its slow around here. Most people just pop in see whats up and head off back to what ever it is there doing and dont hang with us We stay in this place like its an MMO more or less and we get to level up in the process /points to rep.

 

Q6600's are a guaranteed 3.6 as long as you get a decent HSF, it's nice. I have bad pushpins unfortunately so 3.2 is as far as I'll take it.

 

i think i got it to run at about 3.4 with no issues, after that it was unstable, but then i haven't tried it in a long while. nothing fancy just pushed the fsb to like 1600 mhz or so.

 

my q6600 is at 3.6ghz but I do not thing its a safe bet that just cooling is going to get you there. there is some luck in it and you need a good motherboard & power supply also.

I have the thermalright ultra 120 probably the best air cooler out there. keeps my quad ice cold even with 1.42v going to it.

 

So for you veteran quad overclockers. Do you really see this one CPU fan keeping the QX9300's temps in check @ 4Ghz?

 

I'm probably just going to stick around to boost my weak ego, and meet ladies.

 

Hmm.. I think some of these guys may take offense to you calling them ladies.

 

Nope.

It's 45nm, yes, but the amount of voltage required to hit 4GHz is very high. My Q6600 stock is at 1.2625 and it's not until around 1.42 that I get stable in Prime95, but it's too hot. Once you get up into the 3.6 / 4 GHz range it takes a lot of voltage to gain a small amount of MHz. I can run 3.2 GHz on stock voltage, but it takes me .157 (Which is a lot) to gain 400 more MHz after that.

I highly, highly doubt that system was run on stock cooling, and if so, it's now dead.

 

Ok so hang on, the Q9300 will not be available for the A1 versions? Coz I'm suppose to pre-order that one today.

I know, it's a tad bit more expensive but I didn't wanna void Asus warranty and I don't know much about Overclocking and stuff like that. Plus, where I come from, there's no Techs that specializes on this. If there was, I don't trust them...sad but true.

I just want a gaming laptop that kicks ! Plus, I've already save thousands of $ on this since I was gonna get the M17x. So yeah, it's a shame if this means that getting the Qx9300 option will void Asus warranty.

Does this mean that choosing the Q9300 option, xotic will upgrade it themselves and give me the warranty instead of Asus?

 

Yea, from what I've read, your warranty will come from xoticpc instead of asus if you pick the qx9300.

Also, in that case, I think you're better off getting the q9000 while keeping asus's warranty intact, then go spend less money on a super dual core. At least you'll see more gain in your everyday stuff. Unless you constantly play supreme commander or something.

 

Man speaks the truth, +1 to Asus warranty, plus you get the accidental damage protection. You're spending too much for a QX9300 right now, unless you just have a few five figure suitcases lying around.

Also, T-minus 8 hours and 30 minutes until possible A1 news.

 

I dunno, depends. If your just increasing the fsb & clock speed the temp really does not go up. its increasing the voltage that makes it hotter.

You cant increase the voltage for a notebook unless you do some kind of manual mod (turbogear does do a small increase on the c90s so it may on here also but not enough to make cooling suffer)

So if your lucky enough to have ram/mobo/cpu that can do the fsb required to do 4ghz I think you will be ok, and even if you did have it at 4ghz what are your chances of having it under 100% load for all 4 cores unless you were benchmarking or doing some kind of rendering.

 

well...ill tell you this...you'll burn out that vga card before you fry that cpu...these are notebooks and not desktops. you dont have access to the voltage like that. and the cpu's have thermal shutoffs. these also ain't amd chips. see a little heat and burn up

 

One reason the Whitebook/M17 is so attractive. I despise locked FSB % OC and no multiplier control. You really can't fine tune it.

Also if it is limited to certain percentages (16/20/24) let's say then your Q9000 will top out much quicker than a Q9100 (2.26) or QX9300 (2.53) in addition to the neutered cache and/or will have a gap between percentages unless the OC tool allows it in either single FSB increments or single % OC increments which would be nice to know you can set it to 50% OC and ramp it up to 3ghz assuming your memory doesn't crap out or you get stuck with a 2:3, 4:5 (async) or something more hideous.

Can anyone explain, in detail, the OC functionality in regards to fine control in regards to either % or FSB increments and max (if any) settings?

And if you go pay retail for a QX9300 or Q9100....ugh. Go grab a $450 ES of a QX9300 or a $250-300 dollar Q9100 ES. I'm sure due to their retail price and expectations, the QX9300's are cream 99% of the time.

 

Hey thats not nice

Before I built my q6600 system I had a AMD Opteron 148 and it had a 100% overclock for 2 years solid! 1.4ghz to 2.8ghz

 

Holy canola. I'm going to have to learn more about this mysterious overclocking. Oh wait, Asus did all the work for me .

 

i use to replace way to many amd systems for customers because the heat sink fan had to much dust in it for the cpu to breath. thus burning the cpu and allot of the time...the motherboard as well.

 

Yep I got a gold award on hwbot I think for that overclock. 100% means I doubled the cpus power for a small fraction of the cost of a faster one.

While Asus does have overdrive on the W90 (or it could be turbogear not sure yet same kind of program though) its like a 17% overclock. Im willing to bet that I can take that up to 25% or higher with some additional software.

Of course I will have the steps of doing that and my results in my review. I am just sitting here waiting like everybody else for the A1 release.

 

At least we know when you get yours, we're guaranteed to see it really up close and personal like we've been chompin at the bit waiting fer.

 

Regarding the ES chips, it's a great cost saving idea however: I have bought a ES t9800 before, when it's working, it's super awesome. But I'd get bsods when starting up the comp (which I fix by restarting but it's annoying) and there's no temperature monitoring.

I don't know if that applies to all ES chips, but you have to be super careful with it. I'd personally pay the extra 100 or so and get a "OEM" chip. Not retail of course!

 

I readily await it, I might even jump up and down a little bit.

T-minus 8 hours!

 

doesn't not apply to all es chips, but is usually an indication that you had one of the earlier editions. the later ones (last stage) usually didn't have these problems.

 

Guys anyone benched this thing?

http://www.xoticpc.com/sager-np5797-custom-notebook-built-clevo-m570tu-p-2540.html?wconfigure=yes

 

Id probably pay $100 more for a new OEM instead of a used ES also as you have no idea what hell that ES chip as been through and there is no coverage for it as the sale of ES chips is actually not legal.

Thing is if you want say the qx9300 I do not think your going to find an OEM for just $100 more, so you have to sell a major organ or your car or something to get it retail or deal with the ES.

 

8 hours? You have that confirmed? I have not heard from Ken yet saying they are in stock, or even that they have a shipment inbound. All the resellers get there stuff at the same time unless there is a shortage or something.

 

Yeah he bought one of those cheap B1 stepping T9800s. That's pretty much a foolish thing to do.

No, because it's not out for like three more weeks.

 

No, you probably know more about it than I do. I'm just assuming that if the shipment comes in on the 24th, like Justin@xotic said, than we have approximately 7 hours, and 9 minutes until they open up for business, and then we might see an update on the page.

tl;dr: I can has no confirmatiunz

 

I cant wait to get her nekid and take pictures

I took all my old review pictures with my point & shoot and while I admit they were top quality and you could not tell it was not a $1000 dslr, now I have a real DSLR and need to put it to some use.

Nikon D70 paired with a Nikkor 50mm F1.4 Prime.

Nice sharp pictures, sometimes I think the fuji gives better pictures though, I guess thats just because I dont like the idea of having an older nikon model. I really want the D90 but I simply cant afford it nor justify nearly $1000 for a camera.

 

I like the 1.4! I've got the 1.8 50 on my Canon XSi. Prime lens is where it's at. I'm looking at getting the 24-70 L while I'm out here in Iraq.

 

yeah, will not be messing with b1's no matter how stable they seem...
and i would only buy an extreme es. regular cpus are at a very reasonable price. with 3 year mf warranty from intel.

 

Yeah I went back and forth debating on getting the 1.8 or the 1.4 forever. The 1.8 is debatibly the best lens you can get for your money, $99 new and one of the highest quality lens's. For most people its not worth the $300 or so for the 1.4...

however since I never use a flash and really wanted to be able to reduce my DoF I looked around for the 1.4 for awhile and eventually found a deal for it on ebay for like $200 in brand new condition so I got it.

50mm prime is a good start lens, it lets you devolop good techniiqe rather than rely on your zoom. But I do need a wider lens badly, lots of times I go to take pics inside of something and run out of space to backup, when I was taking shots of my arcade desk project I almost fell off my bed trying to get it all in the frame.

While not the highest quality lens out there due to its rather large zoom range I know what I want next is the Nikkor 18-200mm VR but again kinda expensive, so may settle for the Sigma version witch is almost half the cost. The reason I want that is to get everything the 50mm prime cant, it goes wide for indoors and it has some tele for say animals at the zoo and the VR helps with the fact that its not nearly as fast as the 1.4 is. It just seems to be the best return on my money for a single lens besides the 50mm and just one lens is all you need for an all day outing.

My 3rd lens will most probably be a macro lens.

 

Well, on ebay the qx9300's are going for what...600ish bucks? That sure beats the over 1k that xoticpc is asking for.

Although I still wonder sometimes, get the x9100 or the qx9300. Clearly one is better for more real life programs, and the other is a lot better for strenuous rendering and such.

 

Sounds like you know which direction you're headed with photog, which is always good. I'm looking for more general purpose, so the 24-70 fits the bill perfectly, but the 28-105 is still on my list of definite buys. I agree with the wide angle justifications you posted, sometimes a 50mm, and especially an 85mm, can kill your ability to capture a moment, particularly when you walk into a small space that you didn't expect.

Macro is one of my favorite forms of photography, but with the cost of the lenses, and myself wanting to expand my horizons, it will probably be the last set I look into. I'm interested in wildlife, and I'll have the opportunity to go on a safari, twice, in Qatar while I'm on R&R from Iraq. I really look forward to some stunning photos.

 

You will get a higher quality picture with those lens's since the zoom range is not so varied. I just know that I need both wide & tele at the same times a lot when I go out. Also 24mm just is not wide enough for me on a crop sensor like my D70 or your Rebel, on a full frame sensor then I would be happy with it.

Ultimately I think thats why I did not get a D90 and just got a cheap used D70 because I would rather save for a full frame body. Cannon has the cheaper full frame so I may convert over to Cannon when that time comes. That 5D MkII is a sweet piece of Kit, I think better than the Nikon D700.

 

5d Mark II is where it's at, for sure. I'm entering some contests out here, and the new 5d is the reward. Haven't placed yet, but I'll keep trying.

 

** Tucks away his little rinky dinky Canon Powershot G series, tucks tail and runs for the hills **

 

Hey man, it's the person behind the viewfinder/LCD that makes the shot, not what's in front of it.

Sure, you can be limited more by a point and shoot, but it's a well known fact that unless you're sporting some serious macro gear on a DSLR, most point and shoots take better macro, at least at the amateur level.

 

Like I said I find my Fujufilm Finepix F30 to be as good as my D70 in quality, plus it lets me do manual aperture & shutter just not to the same level as the D70, the only real advantage I got with the D70 is being able to change lens's and for the lens I have now being able to go all the way up to 1.4

If anybody wants a good P&S the Fuji I think is the best, or atleast it was when I got it. great quality, really good sensor, fast start time, long battery life, lots of options, and it was not expensive.

Its only lacking feature is not much optical zoom.

 

Wow, that's pretty nifty. I've got a Sony DSC-10 (I'm pretty sure that's the model) with 10 MP and excellent macro. I bought it for my fiancee when it came out, and liked it so much, I ended up getting my own. She took a close up of a butterfly last summer, and I swear that picture could've graced the cover of NatGeo easy. It was amazing.

 

Well lemme tell you, the D90 is an absolutely amazing camera. I got it with the 18-105 kit lense about a month ago. I plan to get the 50mm 1.4 then a 70-300 zoom to complete my lense collection. My trip to Italy (the reason I got the camera) I only had the 18-105 and I never needed anymore zoom than that. I was even able to get photos of the Sistene Chapel (they are not aloud there, but when I got there everyone was snapping away and the guards were nowhere to be found!!). I could have really used the 50mm 1.4 when I was in Venice (it was Carnivale) but can give a similar DOF affect when I get my new lappy and CS4 installed. I upgraded from a Fuji S9000, and the low light ability is absolutely amazing. I always turn the flash off, day or night. Anyway, just wanted to add my $.02. I have some photos of my trip if anyone is interested I can post the link. BTW, I am just learning how to use a camera, so I used mostly Auto setting on the camera for the trip.

I have heard great things about the Fuji F30, Fuji colors are just so great it was hard not to get the Fuji S5 dSLR

 

I dont think I have any super amazing photo's I just shoot for fun and family stuff.

I did enter a comp for a hotel chain that my company is in, its world wide so we are looking at hundreds of thousands of entrants possible in it. I did not win (I dont even know if they choose the winner yet) but I did get picture of the week and it was 3 months long and with like 3 or 4 pictures of the week, so thats like 36 people or so that got to have that.

Top 3 get a prize,

1st $2000 credit at b&h
2nd $1000 credit at b&h
3rd $500 credit at b&h

Id be unbelivably happy if I get a place, 2nd or 3rd can get me a lens but if I get 1st I'll get a new body.

 

yep the d90 has a good low light sensor and the 50mm 1.4 will compliment it very well. still even the best crop sensor like the d90 has wont beat a full frame like the 5d with low light just due to the amount of light it can absorb and I am a low light/no flash addict. I love night photography especially.

i think the fuji p&s beats my d70 in low light, its got the highest rated low light specs for a p&s and I may very well upgrade to a d90 instead of a full frame just for cost reasons, like sword & scales was saying the p&s are very good at macro too, very close focus distance and there inherently small sensors actually give them an advantage for macro vs a bigger sensor in a dslr.

I was really hoping to find a d90 cheap at circuit city when they were going out of business but somebody bought them all when it was only 10% off I was waiting for 20% atleast.

 

Sounds like a quality adventure! What's the aperture range on the 70-300 you're talking about? Always watch that.

What part of Iraq are you working in, my man? I've already met one guy on here who's right down the road from me, don't tell me there's already another!

 

It is 3.5-5.6, same as the 18-200 and current lense I have. Would like faster, but cost comes into it. If I decide to go on that african photo safari this summer, I will rent a high dollar one. I am currently on a tiny base called War Eagle, but in about a week or so I will be back to Taji. Where are you?

 

I'm at Camp Cupcake Al Asad.

 

War Eagle, now thats a cool base name.

3.5-5.6 sounds good to me for day shooting. however I am making sure to get the VR version of the 18-200 just for that reason that its not as fast as the prime. Nikons VRII lets you go like 2.5 stops lower at the same shutter speed than you can without it. Photosnobs will tell you VR is pointless and to get the faster lens instead but for walking around doing handheld shots its not, and I dont want to sell my house to get a fast tele lens.

Any night shooting will definitely have to be still subjects with a tripod.

 

Well I have never been to that one, been to everything around Speicher (my unit designed and built most of them when I was here as a soldier), then to Mosul and now Taji. Now, if I could just make a final decision on what dam laptop to get I would be all set! BTW the photos are www.pbase.com/djgiron

Since it came with the 18-105 I am bypassing the 18-200 and just going to get the 70-300 (with VR for sure) and 50mm prime. I have a decent tripod and the absolute best accessory for the camera aside from the SB-600 . . . a wireless remote!

Speaking of Al Asad . . . all the flights in and out of there have just been cancelled . . . hope you arent planning on going anywhere!

 

Not going anywhere until May, but it sucks because I was expecting a large amount of 360 games in the mail from my Dad. Oh well .