*Official ASUS W90Vp Owners' Lounge*

what vender are you buying from?

 

Gonna be part of the W90Vp owner's club in May when I upgrade from my G1S-X1!!! Can't wait!!!

I was going to go with a Clevo that has a GTX 280m, but my friend told me that its just a rebadged 9800m and that the W90 with full desktop GPUs was twice as fast so I'm down!

So any negatives to this thing I should know about? My G1S had lots of thermal negatives but I fixed them myself.

 

Its true the 280m are rebadged 9800s but theres little doubt in my mind that the M98 will be faster just by what Johnkss has posted thus far comparing the 9800gtx to my machine . So if the 280m are 50% faster (doubt it) then the current 9800s then its going to be quite abit faster then the W90 (speculation) . But the one thing i can bet you on is for a similar specced M98, say 2 cards a decent processor ram etc will probably run you a pretty penny more . So if you can wait you may as well, but at the same time i could not be happier from what i have seen the games run at so far on my machine. If money is no object and your not in a huge hurry then just wait it out and see what happens but when the m98 hits i know this forum here will be filled with Trolls up the whazoo comparing the 2.

 

1: leaning more towards a quadro fx 3700m than a 9800m gtx
2: twice as fast? i think that's a very big wide speculation there.
3: desktop gpu? some of our more experienced ati users say it's not a full fledged desktop gpu
4: quite a few negatives have been addressed, but one very big one still remains....ati/asus whoever driver support.(this is to cover all envolved or not mentioned)

 

|NP9262-QX9650-4GB-RAID0/320GBx2-SSD/128GB-9800MGTX/SLI-BT-N-WUXGA-WIN7-VISTA32/64-XP32|

^That machine gets 160000 3DMark06 points.

The W90VP-X1 with a 2.8 C2D gets 150000 points.

The only reason the Sager one gets an extra 10k points is because of the Quad-Core CPU.

 

Yeah, it appears I'm wrong. Its only slightly faster.

As for not being a desktop CPU, it has been verified that it is. The only difference is that the desktop unit comes paired with DDR5 RAM while the W90's only has DDR3 (to reduce heat since the cooling unit had to be minimized)

 

I misspoke too. I meant to say 50% faster, not 200%

Embarrasing mistake to make for an engineering student

 

Will be filled with trolls? Have you noticed how limited the number of people in this "owner's thread" actually have or plan on buying one?

 

=hidavi;4720944]Yeah, it appears I'm wrong. Its only slightly faster.

As for not being a desktop CPU, it has been verified that it is. <---tis is still true..been true for a while now...

The only difference is that the desktop unit comes paired with DDR5 RAM while the W90's only has DDR3 (to reduce heat since the cooling unit had to be minimized) <--- sorry, but they both have gddr3 memory and not ddr5 ram

and so far a w90 has not beat out a ocz whitebook running 3870s in dual core mode 15.8. at 3dmark06. if we we're just going off of that.
the best a sli 9800m gtx will score is 14.8 in dual core mode stock cpu. (in a non over clocked system only(fsb/bios/cpu over clock)
kind of why we all wanted to see what they would do under the same conditions as the 4870s with an over clocked cpu/fsb pump in dual core / quad core mode.

 

We all know of one that has.

 

really? well point us to it. the one with a dual core cpu beating out a whitebook dual core cpu. i missed that link...

 

Keep moving the goalposts. You plainly said "a W90" had not beat "a ocz whitebook running 3870s in dual core mode". There is "a W90" that has accomplished that.


Anything else you would like to contribute to the thread?

 

I'm sorry for the mistake again, I mean't desktop GPU, not CPU. Doy!

So you're telling me a whitebook with dual 3870s scored 15.8k? Please provide me with a link, cuz I have to witness this myself lol.

14.8k for the 9800m SLI+c2D set? Thats impressive alright.

But, mind you, the W90 scores 15k out of the box. I promise you sir, I will come back by the end of May with a score of 16k OR I CHANGE MY NAME!!!!

 

I don't mean to be a troll. Please don't get me wrong. I'm just very driven and my hobby since I was 12 has been tweaking things for optimal performance. My G1S did 3.4k out of the box and now it does over 5k, with some room still left for improvement so I'm confident that with a good drill and a screwdriver, I can do something like that again.

I can't wait to do that and get paid for it this summer.

 

hidavi dont base your buying decision on 3d06 lol take a look at some other games like crysis on the whitebook or devilmaycry to get an idea of how much faster it is . 06 means squat .

 

Hey now, Jesus said don't pwn n00bs in the face too hard...

 

Lol thats cause they get scared off by all the non owners

 

A1 Available in Canada
http://www.infonec.com/site/main.php?module=detail&id=443977
Or
http://www.icicomputer.net/product.asp?pf_id=W90VP-A1

 

Guys $540 for OEM QX9300? Good price?

 

Can't, local shop that does custom PC's offered, I know a guy there. I'm not sure i can trust them though. Anything I should look out for?

Edit: never mind its not OEM, people just full of sh**

 

What is the difference between OEM and non?

 

OEM typically means just the CPU, no heat sink fan, no little Intel sticker, no fancy packaging and manual, nothing but the CPU. Can be a great way to save some cash because you're not paying for things that will eventually be thrown away anyway, but make sure you know whom you are purchasing from, as these are easier to make forgeries of (relabelling other chips and other nefarious things).

 

So if not difference in performance why not buy non? Ebay has non's for 400, i think.

I edited previous post, it was non OEM, people were trying to make some money on me!!

 

Someone already got a q9000 upto 2.7ghz with the Setfsb pretty impressive to say the very least.

 

better resale value i would say more then anything TBH. If someone were to buy your machine down the road they would rather here OEM cpu then engineering sample .

 

lol for retail price you could by another laptop with half decent specs . there out of there mind on those prices.

 

The only OEM I found was for 800 on Ebay. still better then 1150

 

Lol i cant even imagine what it could clock up to . i would be happy around 3.6ghz everyday use.

 

hey quadzilla:
going by this picture here...it looks like kinc's quad was in fact an oem version as well.


an example of the last stage es or qs will look something like this with no es markings, but once booted it will read es in all software reading the chip.


but as striker suggest.. your voiding your asus warranty putting a qx9300.

 

Ya im scraping the bottom of the nickel jar at the moment hoping i can squeeze it and then deciding on OEM or QS

 

im thinking as long as you get a qs or oem, your doing well.
and besides, if you get the oem....your covered from intel for 3 years. with an es, your lucky if you get 30 to 90 days. (this is where that added money spent becomes a life saver)
both chips should perform identical though.
and like mr moo said...your name is quadzilla...not dualzilla...lol
"mr moo killed me with that post"
lol

striker:
yep, warranty right out the window!

I think most considering the QX9300, have already resigned to 'flip-flam-fluewy-there-Skippy' on the warranty, LOL!

Does CPU-Z make a distinction between 'OEM' or 'RETAIL BOX'?
no, it doesn't. only the distinction between es and oem...(speculation) everest may tell a different tale. it might make that call. if we can get someone like dodadah or ichime to run theirs through everest..we might be able to get some idea as to what it sees. probably sissoft sandra as well

 

Lol ya that one was hilarious .

 

You are correct. Intel will only warranty their Retail Box, OEMs need to be warrantied by the supplier (if a warranty exists).

 

i will be home in 30mins if ichime doesnt beat me to it. lol.

 

delete message because it was wrong.

 

lol...great line!

 

1) PIB, NIB, or RETAIL BOX= CPU / Processor which includes manufacturer's heat sink & fan, and has a 3 YEAR WARRANTY.

2) OEM or TRAY CPU/Processor= have NO manufacturer's warranty. Warranty is supplied by seller.

Guess that would be one more reason to go QS . The only thing that makes me want OEM more then the QS is possible stability or maximum OC potential . Id have to do alot of research though to really get to the bottom of whether one could potentially be better then the other and not to mention anytime you buy any CPU, it can be luck of the draw on just how high it can go.

 

nah, getting ready to retract that as we speak. talking to intel right now.

edit: hummm...seems i have to talk to someone else..once he realized it was a mobile cpu..things took a turn....

 

when you bought your w90, did it have a cut off box tab of your cpu? like off the original box the cpu came in.

 

gonna get to the bottom of this oem stuff. someone has to have the updated answer over there. because now im wondering if the cpus that i have sent back to intel we're in fact retail. which still doesn't make since, because i know they we're oem. matter of fact, one came out of a uniwill laptop

 

where in everest should i copy and paste?
cpuid or cpu?

 

yeah, not arguing it. i understand. i was thinking of something slightly different. and you bought yours from new egg so it wouldn't have that and it would be a trayed cpu.

but if it we're to have bought from xoticpc or another system builder, they would have given you the box top containing the serial number for warranty purposes(if requesting a retail cpu-qx9300). retail being 3 years and oem being trayed and no box top....
*thinking out loud here*

 

I need it Quad, just got up from my nap. I'll try it out when I get to work.

 

whats a Setfsb?

 

Ok.. Newegg is sold out - again - I'm sure you all are aware. I was going over there to tempt myself.. This is painful. Seriously, it's painful cause I'm hunched over cause my laptop screen's hinge is broken. It's just another reason to make a buying decision..

 

It's an overclocking tool.
http://www13.plala.or.jp/setfsb/

 

About that Free Acronis thing, would you by any chance be talking about the Seagate Disk Wizard? or is there an actual way to get Acronis for free?

 

its seagate disk wizard disguised as acronis(or vice versa lol) and works a charm . ill send you out the Setfsb in a moment.

Sent it out to ya Vicious have fun

 

ViciousXUSMC hows the review coming?

 

He finished it

http://forum.notebookreview.com/showthread.php?t=370294