13.3" Monster from ASUS -- F6Ve-B1

i talked to a guy who owned the "current" F6 and he told me he gets 3 hours of battery life i was pretty shocked to here that. So it looks like they improved. Plus this should use equal power to the 3470 plus better power saving options so that awesome.

 

For some reason this model hasn't shown up on the Canadian Newegg website

 

i noticed that price. it is good. i think i might return my m4400 and get one. i forgot that laptops dont really have to be this heavy stupid thing
does anybody have an idea of when the next one might come out after the f6ve b1? i kind of want an led screen, that would probably improve the battery life and mybe weight too

 

Benchmakrs are nice, but sadly those temp readings are completely worthless It would have been just easier to install Speedfan or HWmonitor and stress the system with Sandra and FurMark. That would have given some real CPU, GPU and Chipset temps under load.

 

Hmm i was inbetween vaio sr and this and I think I fell for F6ve-B1.
shame its doesnt have ddr3 video memory.. Do you think it would make alot of difference ?
How loud are the result of loudness under stress considered ? Also with no stress when browsing ?I sounds kinda loud when they run cod4 and Fear 2.
What is the color of the lines designed on back lid ? I looks lie brown.. is it ?

BTW great alternative than xps 1340.. lighter, nice CPU, no glossy palm rests oh and extra usb port and probably no heating/esata issues..

its funny how on the videos it has a sticking out battery and on pictures it doesnt... so does it or not?
cheers

 

The battery definitely sticks out as evidenced in Ken's video - Asus promo pix generally have the 3cell installed in the smaller formfactor models, and this is what most websites link to for their product photos.

 

It would be nice if they cared about us Canadians - but sadly they don't.

I'll just have to order it to my brother in michigan and have him drive it up here when he comes down for a visit

 

It was my U6V next to it making the noise not F6Ve, all U6V has the fan running full speed issue after BIOS update:

http://vip.asus.com/forum/view.aspx?id=20080922043820062&board_id=3&model=U6V&page=1&SLanguage=en-us

 

The 4570 is a 64bit card with 80 shader pipelines, the 3670 is technically better with 128bit and 120 shaders. I wouldn't be surprised if the 3670 is still a bit faster myself. Haven't seen the benchmarks yet.

 

Hmm on the videos they show that it gets around 3k in 3Dmark06.. Doesn't 512 video memory mean anything ?

 

BTW, can someone explain me the differences in between 3XXX and 4XXX series of mobility radeon GPUs? AFAIK, they were both produced in 55nm technology, both support DirectX 10.1, OpenGL 2.0 and Shader Model 4.1. They both have ATI Avivo HD technology etc. etc...

So what is the difference?

Thanks.


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The 4670 vs 3670 for example the 4670 almost has 3 times more ipelines which is amazing.

4670 also has double the transistors

 

For me F6Ve-B1 is enough of power CPU and GPU wise judging from the videos of COD4 it runs fine on native and I will leave rest games to my PS3. Good desktop replacement with all the ports needed, easy to travel. I got one of the netbooks Samsung NC10 black as a substitute while I sell my m860tu, get the money and order one of them plus upgrade to 500gb 7200rpm segate momentus . The new cover design seems nice too. Hopefully lines going over it are silver not brown but I can see properly.

 

The pipelines, clock/RAM speeds may differ but I am wondering if there is any difference in terms of technology?

Is there any reason for me to replace my 3650 with 4570 for example?


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The GPU (4570) is mediocre. I would say 46XX series have enough power.

However its CPU (T9550) is one of the best in the market.


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Will it have a turbo feature to OC the CPU?
So far this looks like a great laptop, game demos look great, not really worried about 3DMARK06 scores because they mean nothing when it comes to actual gaming, the only thing I don't like about it is the lame patterns on the lid, why do companies do that?
A nice solid black would make it a much sharper looking, the thing looks like it got into a fight with a cat.

 

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The initial price of this laptop was $1199.99. Newegg has recently pushed that up and the new price is $1299.99 now.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16834220495

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Gentech still has them for $1199.99
Or you can always get the cheaper CPU, and then upgrade it with a better one, just seen a X9100 for $499.99, that would give it a nice kick in the pants.

 

Not if the graphics processor can't effectively use it.

Don't be tempted to upgrade from the F8Va, the HD 3650 is still a very capable GPU. Minor upgrade at best with the HD4570; $1200 is not worth an upgrade that doesn't do much for you computing power-wise. If you're desperate to upgrade to a lighter computer, it would be worth it though.

 

Well I'm not sure about how accurate notebookcheck.com is but they have a graph showing that the newer HD 4570 almost doubles the performance of the HD 3670,so that's quite a boost, depending if the info. is true that is.
The game demos that GenTech had up were pretty impressive, both games seemed to be running pretty smooth, but until someone gets there hands on one and gives us all the details.......not sure if it's sold yet, but I can't find any reviews for it anywhere!
Hopefully someone will run one through it's paces for us.

 

That is theoretically impossible.

3670 has 120 stream processing units with GPU/RAM speeds of 680/800MHz.
4570 has 80 stream processing units with GPU/RAM speeds of 680/800MHz.

Furthermore 3670 has 128-bit bandwidth whereas 4570 has only 64 bits. Unless there is a magic in the 4XXX series, 4570 should perform definitely worse than the 3670.


This is what math says...

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sorry, triple post...

 

sorry, triple post. around 4:45AM, the forum software goes crazy...

 

WoW stumbled upon a real 13" monster from LG while looking for similar product.

http://www.notebook.de/lg-p310-scbrag-mit-intel-core-2-duo-p9500-253-ghz-p-15431/

Too bad the price is so high also

 

Yeah, I'm telling you this baby is the way to go if you want a 13" gaming machine!

 

I think their CPU choice is a lot more reasonable. ASUS should have used a P9500 or a P9600 in a 13.3" machine. 35W of TDP for a CPU in a 13.3" machine does not seem to be a good choice.

In fact, they could have used that 10W TDP savings from the CPU in favor of the GPU and they might have used a 46XX series instead of 4570. That would be the optimal...


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Oh well I allready ordered X83VM-X2 from states, I think I might try to sell it here with a little profit if possible and the get this LG unit

 

That's smart thinking You will certainly be better off with the LG. You will probably opt for the P9500 model, but I can tell you that the P8400 is good enough in most cases.

 

In real life, battery life and power generation is minimal between the P and T processors. Rarely do they ever go to the TDP, most of the time they will be less than 1W apart on idle.

And notebookcheck is horribly inaccurate. Not even the 46xx series doubles the 36xx in performance, then again depending how you define double. If a game has 10fps in 36xx, the 46xx might get 20fps. The 46xx is definitely far better than the 36xx series; however, the 45xx series will definitely perform under the 36xx series. Hopefully the optimizations in the 4xxx series will help close the gap between the two but I doubt it would ever beat the 36xx in any games.

 

Yes you can do that, the LG has been available for sale for a while so you should be able to get it

 

The LG P310 is certainly the most powerful 13" notebook on the market, however it lacks an internal optical drive and isn't available in the US. I remember seeing the previous generation (P300) at a Futureshop in Toronto and it surly is an amazing machine, however the F6Ve will be the next best choice for a 13" gaming notebook.

 

Well 3470 in Vaio SR gaming thread performs crap compared to F6Ve-B1 COD4 on high settings 2x AA and 1280 res.

It gets:

Call of Duty 4, Auto-Detect(low-medium) settings, Acceptable (1280 res I assume)

What do you say to that?

 

The benchmarks AMD has been posting are with 4XAA turned on. The 3000 series experiences a huge penalty for AA, whereas with the 4000 series AA is "almost free", or at least a lot cheaper.

I'd surmise that the the 36xx gpus are faster than the 4570 with AA turned off, and the 4570 becomes competitive with AA turned on, especially 4X or higher. Of course, 4XAA isn't playable on either series with modern shooters, so the 4XAA benchmarks for those games are beyond useless. But on less demanding games, such Oblivion, WOW, Tomb Raider etc., it's possible that the 4000 series will work with higher AA than the 3000 series. The Gentech videos were with 2XAA, which is close to free on the 4570.

I'm planning to buy one of these F6Ve beasties on Monday. I have one sitting in a virtual shopping cart.

 

You know whats so crazy? Get ready for this one, they have the NEW p310 for sale at futureshop for guess how much? $1600! Thats just the regular version with a 9300m gs, its really a rip off here in canada im shocked future shop actually tried to sell an underpowered laptop(at least that spec) for such a high price. You can only buy that lower spec in canada too, we dont get the 9600gt really sucks.

The p300 on the other hand you can get a used one for like $1000 or less which would actually be a better buy then a new p310.

 

Looking forward to your review

We always get ripped off here in Canada. Do they think that consumers here are dumb and that it is okay to rip them off?! That's why I ended up getting my G50 when I went down south on vacation.

 

lol, its the consumers fault if you ask me i think Canadians need to start asking these questions like why are we getting toned down version of notebooks and it still costs more money then a high end model in other countries? Thats why i would never buy a notebook in Canada in store it would most definitely be online only with research.

 

I didn't know you could replace the CPU's on these laptops..

 

I'm not 100% sure you can, but on most laptops a CPU upgrade is doable it's the GPU's that are mostly soldered to the MOBO's.

 

Yes, replacing the CPU is certainly possible in all current Asus laptops - however this will automatically voids your warranty.

 

They used to have the 8600M GS based P300 in Canada for 1600CAD. That was sweet, and even better is that now those are going for sub $900 on eBay.

 

I wish the F6Ve-B1 had a option for the ATI 4650, just compared the COD4 videos (GenTech)with the N80 the 14" model and the 4650 was much,much better,footage looked very fluid and smooth, very impressed with that card and yes I do know the ATI 4570 is a 512mb GPU and the ATI 4650 a 1GB GPU .Before you say the dimensions are practically the same they are not the 14" N80 is about 2" wider than the F6Ve-B1, but overall the F6Ve-B1 looks much sleeker and sexy, here's hoping a future update of the F6Ve- B1 includes the ATI 4650.

 

It is not only the memory issue. 4650 has much more processing power...

4570 has 80 streaming processors whereas 4650 has 320.
Moreover 4570 has 64-bit bus bandwidth whereas 4650 has 128. These two factors really make the difference rather than the memory...


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Hello Everyone,

Just joined and am looking at buying the F6Ve-B1. However, given the GPU it has, would you still recommend buying it at the current price or rather wait for a future model that has comparable specs and better (4650 for example) GPU in the same 13.3 size?

Thanks in advance!

 

Welcome to nbr!

There is no evidence that ASUS will produce an updated model with better GPU at the moment.

I personally don't think that ASUS will upgrade the GPU. Sub-14.1" models have never been a gaming platform before due to the limitation of the cooling infrastructure. In fact finding a T9550 processor was quite a surprise to me too...


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Hello ramgen,

Thank you for the very quick reply. I have been looking at the F6Ve-B1, but upon coming across this forum noting the decent but not outstanding GPU, I was unsure about buying the laptop. I think that I will place my order today for it! My main requirements are a small and lightweight, yet slightly powerful laptop at a reasonable price. This laptop seems to meet those requirements..

 

price is no longer $1199...

 

Yeah, this machine seems to meet all your requirements. It is small, lightweight, quite powerful in terms of CPU and has very reasonable price. If I didn't purchase my F8Va-C1 recently I would immediately buy this one without thinking twice.

Good luck with your purchase and we are looking for a nice review from you.


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Even after what ppl are saying that they wished it had Ati 4560 I'm still convinced to this laptop as for a quite a good price you get very nice cpu, GPU 3k in 3Dmark06 is almost as good as xps studio 1340 which is getting hot. I like new F6Ve-B1 design a lot from the pictures. As long as TF, CS:S, COD4, Battefield 2142 run good on native thats good enough for me in other words portable 13.3 4lbs desktop replacement with all the ports needed and sh|t load of power underhood . I'll be ordering one for sure.

 

It is at GenTech.

 

Same here. Last I checked, it's still $1199

http://1toppc.com/Merchant2/merchant.mv?Screen=PROD&Product_Code=F6VE-B1