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    ASUS Zenbook UX303 (Nvidia GT 840M)

    Discussion in 'Asus' started by [-Mac-], Mar 5, 2014.

  1. marwar

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    Are you sure about the spec?

    I got a preorder on this here in sweden:
    Geforce 840M, Core i7-4510U, 8GB RAM, 256GB SSD, Windows 8.1

    Asus Zenbook UX303LN / UX303 review - faster than ever says that its 3200 x 1800 px

    It looks like a great computer. Is there anything else out there with the same grafic in the same price range?
     
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    Thank you for your response Ive ordered the zenbook UX303LA.
     
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    Hi guys,

    are there any news about the availability ? Looks like only France has access to those devices and i am considering to buy one there if it takes too long to arrive in Germany...
     
  4. Nivaku

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    Correct me if I'm wrong but it seems like UX303 is the USA version of UX32LN which is EU/Asia versions?

    They both seems similar, can anyone tell me the differences?
     
  5. Meaker@Sager

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    Touch screen, resolution and storage size are different by the looks of things.
     
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    Personally I'd get the UX303 since it's a newer model. The UX 301 does have a faster processor. The UX303 has a decent processor more RAM. Don't know about SSD speeds though but they both should be fast. I don't like the high res on both laptops, I personally like the 1080P. UX303 also has a dedicated GPU, maxwell 840m. It's better IMO to save the $500 and just get the UX303. This is all what I think personally. I'm waiting for this or the Aorus x3+, I want to know load and idle temps also how loud the laptop gets. Maybe the GX500 also depending on reviews on all systems
     
  8. nocry

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    the main different i think is ( as the link you linked)
    UX301LA come less resolution and build in GPU, 8gb rams 1799 dollars

    UX303LN higher resolution and GPU GTX840 , 12gb ram 1424 dollars


    strange price maybe LA is newer version
     
  9. Nivaku

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    From my understanding the UX303LN is the later release, which makes it technically newer
     
  10. h22chen

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    That is correct, the 301LA is the older model, the 303 is the newest model.

    The higher price of the 301 is due to the nature of the Computer industry, every quarter (3 months) there is a new generation released (sometimes every 2 quarter, release is always by quarter), in which the new generation of devices will take over the pricing of the product already on the market.

    However, since there's always stock left over of the old product, and with a very low margin of profit, the companies that sell these laptops (or computers or any other computer related devices) do not want to take a significant hit, thus leaving the older models with its original retail price.

    The newer models that comes out will have the retail pricing set by the manufacturer, and typically is cheaper than the older generation product that it replaces because of
    1. higher production of units (higher volume = lower cost per unit)
    2. better manufacturing process, thus higher production and cheaper production
    3. the new generation typically used the newer technology that took over the same price range.
    4. adjustment of pricing due to market forces (aka, the drop in prices for the computer parts allows for lower pricing or better configuration. Memory and HDD are examples of ever changing pricing, and probably the touch screens in the future as more companies are jumping in)



    My question:
    Has anyone seen other models of the UX303 offered in North America aside from the 2 (UX303LN-DB71T and UX303LA-DB51T) that we know of?
     
  11. h22chen

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    Same, I prefer the 1080P on the 13.3" too, otherwise I would have jumped on the 303LN immediately.
     
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  12. h22chen

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    My above posts have some explanation and that the UX301LA used a much faster processor, which costs significantly more. In the CPU market, the fastest processors typically costs a premium due to lower yields and higher maximization of profit by Intel.

    UX301LA 2.8GHz vs UX303LN 2.0GHz.

    Here are the Processor speeds.
    Used by UX301LA
    PassMark - Intel Core i7-4558U @ 2.80GHz - Price performance comparison
    Used by UX303LN
    PassMark - Intel Core i7-4510U @ 2.00GHz - Price performance comparison

    Edit: a dedicated graphics yields a higher performance gain than an integrated graphics (signifcantly helps with gaming, graphics, multimedia, photoshop, etc...) and with a 0.8Ghz difference, it is not noticeable except maybe if you use cpu intensive programs and lots of number crunching.

    Edit: included differences in processor pricing. The 3.6ghz Extreme vs 3.6ghz i7 vs 3.6ghz i3. The Extreme is the most reliable of the bunch (as it passes the most stringent of the tests), highest internal memory (harder to produce as internal cache goes up) and can be overclocked at higher speeds.
    This reflects the pricing $1,145 vs $339 vs $$169 (pricing courtesy of Canadacomputers)
     
  13. DrPacman

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    Note there are 2 models of the UX303LN-DB71T for North America. The UX303LN-DB71T for USA, and the UX303LN-DB71T-CA for Canadians. I see from you posting that your from Toronto, so we'll most likely see the CA model north of the 49th. Those will come with 8GB of Ram installed, and 802.11abgn, not the 802.11AC Wi-Fi as will be included on the USA models :(
     
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    Ok, thank you. I was hoping for more models. :(
     
  15. eskimogenius

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    Does anyone know where I can find the UX303LN-DB71T? Looking to buy it in the US and then ship it to Australia.
     
  16. SH_DY

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    The UX303LN will be available with a 1080P screen. Actually all 303LNs that you can preorder in Germany are 1080p so far:

    UX303LN-R4142H - Full HD (matte), i7-4510U, 256 GB SSD, 12 GB RAM @ 1.199€
    UX303LN-R4141H - Full HD (matte), i7-4510U, 256 GB SSD, 8 GB RAM @ 1.099€
    UX303LN-R4139H - Full HD (matte), i5-4210U, 256 GB SSD, 8 GB RAM @ 999€

    Matte 1080p ftw!
     
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    For these machines that are small enough to go outside then matte 1080p makes a lot of sense.
     
  18. h22chen

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    Many Thanks :)
    I'll take a look at Germany and see if they can ship to Canada or US.
     
  19. h22chen

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    You can pre-order it on Amazon.com, I do not know if Amazon.com ships to Australia or how much the S&H cost (source, I tried to order some things from Amazon.com, some things on Amazon.com can be shipped to Canada while some cannot).
     
  20. Mark_K

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    When is the LA going to be released in the U.S.?
     
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    Are the ux31la and the ux303la the same size and weight?
     
  22. PortableSystem

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    Regarding Cyberport.de (a german shop) it should be available on 7. August in germany.

    Pricing is identical with the UX32LN series (i5/256GB SSD for 1000€, i7/256GB SSD for 1100€). Sadly it seems there is no i5/128gb SSD configuration for 899€ anymore, but maybe as we miss the touchscreen configurations so far there will hopefully be also more FHD configurations.
     
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    That mustard color thing seems like a big turn off, it still has not been fixed with the yoga 2 pro. I'm guessing asus is using the same screen from LG and that's why it gave those problems to the reviewer. I also wish they gave options on the screens, I want dedicated graphics but not a crazy resolution, maximum of 1920 x 1080 should be fine for a 13 inch laptop..
     
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    Can one get a VAT refund/discount if buying from one of the German retailers (for shipment to the US) to get the non-touch FHD version?
     
  26. Blahman

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    You know the German models have a QWERTZ keyboard right? QWERTZ - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
     
  27. rfii

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    Yeah, I figure that I'm OK with switching the keyboard settings if that's what it takes to get the non-touch FHD version
     
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    Does anyone have news as to whether the non-touch (matte) version of this ultrabook will be available in the United States soon?
     
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    The 1080p UX303LN still isn't available yet in the US market? I did a quick look but no results other than the quad HD one, which is an absolute overkill for me.
     
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    I think it would be a bit expensive to have a laptop shipped from Germany to the United States...
     
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    I am considering the UX303LA from Amazon for pre-order. I have read a couple of reviews and am a little confused about the possible HDD and SSD. One review says the SSD models come with a m.2 SSD in a special holder that fits in a 2.5 inch 7mm slot. Why would Asus use something like that rather than just use a 2.5 inch 7mm SSD? Is there any advantage or disadvantage in using the M.2? Also, I guess the HDD model would just use a 2.5 inch 7 mm HDD? In that case would there be a separate slot for a cache SSD or would it be a hybrid HDD with a built in cache?

    Thanks for any insight, Jim
     
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    Seems to have been some discussion on the net revolved around Asus having an abundance of M.2 drives left from production of other models. Hence they are utilizing them in this model. The answer to you second question, indeed a second half-length port is available for cache on the laptop.

    ssd.jpg

    otherside.jpg

    free-ssd.jpg
     
  36. andex

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    Are ok with the keyborad. The major difference being the swapping of the Z and Y keys on the keyboard and some more symbols.

    If you are shipping from EU to outside EU, there should be no VAT or there should be a VAT refund so you wouldn't be concerned about the price. I am not sure of the VAT in Germany but it is 15 to 20%. Moreover, the shipping shouldn't be more than 50 US$.

    If you are in the US, it is better for you to wait a bit and see if a new model is coming or not. Then you can also buy from Germany and even change the Keyboard to US if you don't like it.
     
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    Replacing the keyboard and the international shipping would be a major turnoff unless if it's significantly cheaper, which is not the case. The i5 + 8GB version cost about EUR 999 ($1300 in USD).
     
  38. hawkeye62

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    Thanks for your reply. Another question. The Amazon version comes with a 128 GB SSD, the M.2 in a special holder that fits in a 2.5 inch 7 mm SATA slot. If I wanted to increase the capacity to 256 GB, what would be the best option? 1. Remove the existing 128 GB and replace it with a 256 GB 2.5 inch 7mm SSD, or 2. put a half length mSATA SSD in the other slot?

    Thanks, Jim
     
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    Great question....

    That would depend upon a couple of factors I would presume. 1. Whether you're comfortable with a 2 drive configuration (C: & D: Drives), or you were looking more for 1 - 256 GB partition solution. By looking at the sockets on the board, and anyone please correct me if my assumption are not correct.

    We have 2 identical interfaces to the MB. So, if the Bios support’s RAID you may be able to configure a RAID 0, and stripe the 2 to a full 256 GB with the addition of a second mSATA 128 GB drive. For that matter you may be able to achieve RAID 1 for the redundancy if the Bios support’s this as well…. I do know that the UX301 utilized RAID 0 in a similar machine to achieve the storage. I would presume in this solution, Asus combined both M.2 and mSATA drives to accomplish this.

    If, and only when some experiments with a machine will we know the capabilities’….

    I personally would go with a 2.5 inch 7mm drive if I was unable to utilize a RAID option. Would love to hear other comments or suggestions on this topic myself, as I interested in a solution for myself….

    Cheers.....
     
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    I can't think of any reasons to use QHD over 1080p.

    Barely any 4K contents. Scaling issues that still plague high PPI displays, especially with some games UI being extremely tiny on high resolution. The 840M can barely handle 1080p at medium settings based on gaming benchmarks, and QHD would cause it to choke.

    I'll be interested in QHD like 4-6 years from now. But right now, it's too advanced for its time.

    I'm not sure if Asus is going to release a 1080p version before late August when I have to go back to college.
     
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    For your information, this is an email I received in 2012 from Amazon.de.

    Thus as 19% VAT will be deducted, the price for the core i5 version will be around 1,087 US$. However, you need to find out the charges in USA.

    For shipping read this page. http://www.amazon.de/gp/help/customer/display.html/ref=hp_505532_ied/?ie=UTF8&nodeId=200171000
     
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    Thanks for the insight. I think I made a mistake when I mentioned mSATA. I think both interfaces are full size SATA, 2.5 inch, 7mm? In any case I could go for either one 256 GB or two 128 GB. Or, if anyone really wanted to go extreme, 256 GB or larger in both slots!

    Regards, Jim
     
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    Reading the review again, it appears that the empty slot is mSATA

    Jim
     
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    The connectors do indeed look like conventional SATA connectors. However, looking closer at the photo’s, one notices the area on the left with the M.2 stick is adapted via that “Blue” board.

    That area should be able to hold any conventional 7mm high 2.5 inch SATA HD. Looking at the other connector, you will notice the dual silver colored screw posts. That to me looks like it will accommodate a standard 50 mm mSATA stick.

    Now the question is, will the 2 different types devices work compatibly with each other if indeed the machine is capable of addressing both the slots in a RAID configuration simultaneously.
     
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    Thanks for your reply. I looked at the photo again. The empty one looks strange. I have a spare mSATA card and it measures slightly larger than 1 1/8 inch wide where the connector pins are and 2 inches long. The empty slot doesn't appear to "fit" those dimensions. Any further thoughts?

    Regards, Jim
     
  46. DrPacman

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    I looked at the picture again myself. I would guess that it will fit a standard 50mm long mSATA card. Given that the SATA interface connector is approximately an inch and 3/4, looking at the distance between the posts and the connector would approximate the 50mm required. (Just a guess on my part). Again we’ll have to wait and see when the production models hit the retail channel.
     
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    Do you think the keyboard buttons can be popped out and rearranged?even if not its not like I type looking at the keyboard anymore.

    The 1080 German versions are all non-touch screen right?
     
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    I wonder if there's any customs fees
     
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    Further research leads me to believe that the empty slot is for a Half-Size MSATA SSD, which is an mSATA, half as long as a full size mSATA.

    Regards, Jim
     
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    I'm dying to get my hands on a UX303LN in 1080p - any clue when they'll provide more than just one configuration? I'd like to have this for a trip in September, and sooner if possible.
     
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