Asus C90 3DMark Contest

HELL YEAH THIS IS A BEAST BABEH!!!!!!

 

Yeah, the fan makes the laptop look like it means business. When people see your laptop from behind, they'll be shocked. It looks like a "grill"

I'm really looking forward to this laptop, but I'm annoyed that they aren't offering the option of Santa Rosa and just the Conroe (at least right now).

Maybe if you buy a barebone you can get any processor?

 

Why would you want Santa Rosa when Conroe is faster? And the sockets are different so you will never get a Santa Rosa in the C90.

 

id take a 2.4 ghz santa rosa over a conroe if given I could get it for the same price.

the big reason for wanting it more isnt because of the heat/power. but support for 4gb of ram ^^ also we know it supports ddr2 800.

conroe is great for the power and performance vs the price you pay, but you pay the price in other ways too if you catch my drift.

 

WELL Santa Rosa Sounds sexy i guess and i saw the new sager 2090 it looks sexy http://forum.notebookreview.com/showthread.php?t=134370 its way kool

 

Because of heat and power consumption my friend....and the Santa Rosa chipset is really good for laptops anyway....it's really new. I'd give up the Conroe to save power and reduce the heat.

 

Save power, maybe, but you have to give the crazy heat pipes a chance before saying that they don't work and it will be too hot.

 

well whgat you want a little mobility or you know man

this c90 is PERFECT machine for me. Cauz you know buying a desktop machine just doesn't make sense anymore. It used to because laptops used to suck compared to desktop machines even with a large price gap. But now you can get a laptop that'll perform on par with a high end desktop machine without costing like 5x more

So now this C90 is simply a desktop with a screen attached that's easy to move around. kind of like that psone that had the little screen attachments you could get

 

Yeah its close it still wont stand up to a 1500$ desktop with well choosen parts like a 8800gtx, a high overclocked core2duo and a p35 motherboard....

 

He was saying equivalent performance can be bought for less than twice or three times the price, not that desktops are not still a ton faster per dollar.

 

And I was saying yes its closer but still not quote "on par"

 

Why do I need a MCX adapter?
The C91 should be release about a month after the c90.
Any idea what gpu should be in the c91? Price?

 

Okay don't worry about MCX because apparently it was taken out of the US release. The C91 will have the same parts as the C90, and the price should be some amount cheaper for the C91 (whatever it costs to get rid of the heatsink)

 

pm sent bro

 

So Alex, you're saying that the C90S US version won't even have a tv tuner...that's definately a dissapointment. USB tuners never seemed to be reliable enough to count on a program being recorded.

 

It is because Asus has been having problems with our NTFS system. European, and I believe Asian, markets get Asus notebooks with Tv Tuners across the board, but in America we don't get any. Simply because the FCC is retarded.

 

NTSC not NTFS , damn framerate conversion. =P

I've read around and I'm pretty set on buying a C90s.
I still had one question, however. On July 22nd, Intel is releasing their 6x5x series of processors with lower prices and faster FSB.

[ http://www.hkepc.com/bbs/itnews.php?tid=789466]
lists the processors as Conroe cores, so I was wondering if the C90s would support the new processors. I've been following the C90s threads on and off over the past month and a half and I don't recall this being mentioned, but then again I might have just missed all of those posts. I remember hearing people saying C90s is obviously not using the Bearlake chipset, but is that required in order to host the new processors?

Also upon ordering the laptop within a week of release, would it be worth it to wait for July 22nd price drops or not?

 

You would have to change the FSB in the BIOS, but the RAM speed should allow that. As for the architecture of the thing, Asus says it only supports up to 2.93 GHz even overclocked, so...we will have to wait for both to come out to know.

 

REMEMBER!

This just occured to me and I think its very important to remind you guys!

DONT FORGET TO CALIBRATE YOUR BATTERY IN THE BIOS BEFORE YOU USE THE BATTERY!!!!

I dont know how much it will help but seeing as the C90 doesnt have good battery life every little bit helps!

 

Does anyone know a good website to host videos...something that I can upload large (700mb+) videos to and quickly. I want to do some videos of games running when I get my C90 but I want people to be able to stream them without haveing to download. But if they have to download be able to download the video FAST.

 

Just use youtube. or dailymotion. or metacafe.

 

Those new cpu's are not going to work on this older chipset. They are for bearlake and p35 only I think. I'll try to find some documentation as I have looked it up before.

edit: all I can find is that they fit into any 775 socket but need a mobo that will support 1333mhz fsb, and the only mobo's I can find that have that support are the P35's.

 

You seem to have some kind of link to the asus guys alex, care to ask if we have compatability with the xx50 conroes on the c90?? Im still in debate to get the 3ghz stock 6850 or the 2.4ghz quad core for my desktop... I'll probably go quad but thats more heat and no guarentee what my OC will be like.

 

I have no information about the xx50's or quads aside from the technical knowledge that new chipsets consist of more than FSB speeds. You need a specific BIOS to run quad-core, and those BIOS only work on new chipsets. On the other hand I am very on the fence about the xx50's, It seems as though you should be able to overclock the FSB (which the C90 does naturally) to match and then drop one in. I don't think there any huge architectural differences, just support for the new FSB. So long as you have 667 RAM in the computer (ideally, 800) you can overclock to that high (at the limit) so you may be able to use those.

 

the xx50 series is worse for overclocking anyways. They have a lower multiplier which means overclocking is reduced. Why worry about that when the asus turbogear overclocks the fsb to near 1333 anyways. Also I read an article about a test done with the new 6750 processor and a p35 motherboard and the performance increase was from 3-5% but whats funny is the p35 motherboards are good for overclocking but the 50 series with the lower multiplier are worse for overclocking then the current conroes.

 

Your right about the low multi, in the old day that would have been catastrophic because mobos would crap out near 350fsb but these new mobos are pushing 500fsb easy. People have the new xx50's well into 4ghz on stock air. So I wouldnt say they are bad to overclock, you just need to make sure you have the right stuff to do it with.

Part of the great OC is the new G0 stepping it seems like (atleast thats what everybody is saying). The Q6600 is duo to be changed to G0 at the end of july tho ^^ so I just need to find a dealer that will sell one.

 

It wouldn't be overclocking the chip itself if you put it into the C90, you would be overclocking the FSB to match the chip. So basically match-clocking.

 

What Alex mentions about the FSB match clocking seems correct, and it seems the C90's over-clocking features limit it at a maximum threshold (2.93ghz?) based on thermal properties of the laptop. It just seems that the 6x50s would be a cheaper solution to a similar performance result compared to a 6x00 Conroe despite a lower multiplier. At $222 for an e6600 compared to a projected $183 for an e6750 it seems that $40 would be nice to save. Correct anything I may have misunderstood, please.

On second note from asus.com
"In overclocking mode, the CPU speed can be boosted up to 2.93GHz and the FSB up to 1279.
Note:
1. The 2.66 GHz CPU can support up to Gaming Mode as the maximum of 2.93 GHz. Overclocking past this will render the system unstable. "

So this means that only the e660 can reach 2.93ghz and not, say the e6420?
Also doe this indicate that the C90s is incapable of reaching the 1333 FSB?

 

Just an update, when you go to the C90S customize page at GenTech it no longer has the estimated date as "mid-june". I assume they removed it because the shipments are late, or because theyve recived a shipment. In light of peoples cards and accounts finally being charged, I believe its the latter.

 

Actually if we go by that statement (2.66) only the E6700 will overclock to 2.93ghz....right? wrong?

Thats why I took the e6600 out of my shopping cart and got the e6700...

 

Should be correct. I think the FSB goes up 20 percent, regardless of the multiplier.

 

Good to see someone else did the math before they bought their components. I assume you got the e6700 also, Alex?

 

yessir I did. I figured that having a higher multiplier, the processor would be worth the money anyway.

 

A lesson from the Clevo forums about Quad-Core processors.