Asus G60Vx - 3.06ghz T9900 Surgery & Initial Impressions (large pics warning)

^ That result was 1920x1200, Xtreme burn mode. There was no MSAA applied though.

 

If you can't put 2 and 2 together I won't do it for you.

 

This is the best it can do:



Stable for 3 runs but 89C on the Chipset spells surrender/

 

Next up, the power supply test: a lethal combination of both IntelBurnTest and Furmark running parallel. Any of you lovely ladies man enough to take the test?

 

NOPE!! I'm chugging along nicely maxed out in Dragon Age (though AA seems to hurt frames more than I'd like), so no more killing my Northbridge for now , thank you!

 

I'll try that later tonight. I'll be running the Furmark in 1366x768 tho so I can monitor temps while I do the run.

 

Why do you want to send us down that path?
I'm sure you know what the results will be

 

Its not as lethal as KGB stuff, but sure is fun ride. I did it multiple times on my G71 specially when i was moding the cooler, to see any gains. But what you get is higher temps, specially for us GXX users as its 1 cooler setup, but the g71 cooled much better at least in my experience, have done some but stoped it with my g51 due to passing 90s really easy, but ill give a shot once i mod the bottom. The temps on furmark become not only higher but the stabilization takes much longer. I have like 10pics of those tests, but here the latest i did like a week before my g71 got stolen, everything stock, both test runing dual for 1000sec (stability n normal 10 runs so it lasts enough for furmark)



I would like to see what a SS Sager Copper mod gets into this test.

 

NEVER DOING THIS EVER AGAIN!!! lol. My temps were alright...80C THRM, 67C CPU 84C GPU...but a load of processes stopped responding about 9 minutes in and I had no wallpaper/couldn't see any running apps but could still see/use the taskbar and some programs like taskmanager..

 

Anything undervolted?

 

my GPU is undervolted, my CPU was not. but the fan was louder than I've ever heard it so I assume it was cooking the northbridge.

 

OCCT has a built in Power supply test, is that the same thing as runing IntelBurn + Furmark simultaneously?

 

Yes, it is the same as running IntelBurnTest and Furmark simultaneously.

 

I got Powermizer to work.

Not really.

Apparently, it doesn't work if you have dual monitors (laptop + external).

I was wondering why my GPU was dropping idle temps to nearly 40s and ... yep, it's because I exited Dragon Age, left it there, and never turned my Laptop display back on.

 

FYI the t9900 is back in stock at HP (enter part #570434-001). I already ordered one before I posted this

 

Heya, all
Just joined, first post.
I'm hoping that the victim er, I mean patient of the T9900 surgery is the G60Vx Best Buy model (RBBX05). If it is then that info helps me make a purchase decision. Just curious to know if it is easy to swap out the CPU on this NB or if a bit of soldering is required for removal/installation.
Thanks

 

Simply a matter of removing screws and cleaning/applying thermal paste.

And I have a X9100--which works just fine in these laptops--that's calling your name.

 

Nice, you wouldn't believe how hard it has been to get a definite answer to my question. This is the first site/forum that I've been to that seems to have any in depth info on the B.B. G60Vx and that includes the Asustek forum.

 

Just to let you know, you do void your warranty when installing your own CPU.
They put this tiny yellow sticker(on the CPU heatsink) that seems to break up into many even tinier pieces that are a pain in the butt to get off.
I know this from some hands on experience
Any way replacing CPU is fairly simple. Just make sure you have the proper tools and some good thermal paste.
If you are willing to VOID your warranty then go for it

 

You could have just read page 1 of this thread (or looked at the pictures for two seconds) and your answer would have been answered....

 

According to Joker's correspondence with Asus, that is not true. I also doubt Best Buy cares about that sticker.

 

Well that's good news then.
I always thought those stickers were there for a reason, like ASUS or BB to cover there butts and not have to honor there warranties if some newbie screws up there CPU upgrade.

 

Uh Oh dont tell me this cause I have been waiting to upgrade the CPU in my G51 BB edition.

 

So you guys are trying to tell him he should use 186.815?

 

Yup. 10char

 

More like 182.8125, since Soviet's words generally have more merit than mine.

 

Just a quick update.
T9900 still works amazing and is a great match for the G60, no problems at all with OCing both the CPU and GPU over the last couple of months.

 

How the hec do you get 25C idle for the CPU?? What's your ambient temperature? My P7350 idles at about 50C...undervolted and using a cooler....T9900 should be hotter too..

What kind of CPU temps do you get when gaming?

I want to upgrade my CPU soon. Worried about the warranty though. That's only one guy on these forums. They're just words and aren't exactly reassuring.

 

how do you overclock the cpu on this laptop?

 

Sorry for another thread necro, just wanted to say that is great to hear! I missed out on a G60 Best Buy X09 model so this actually works out better for me, as I'd rather upgrade from a lower price point in the X05.

Great threads and posts everyone, thank you for doing the leg work for the rest of us

 

If you interested on the T9900, i think hp still selling it for the same price, almost the same as i paid for T9600, link.

 

The T9900 runs far cooler than any P. My P7450 idles 40s as well.

 

Thank you for the link Abula... I hope the Ts are around for a while since I wont be able to afford a $300 upgrade right off the bat... problem I've seen with some mobile processors is the prices will increase soon after newer chips are released. Maybe the price will go down a little before it goes up

Thats interesting about the T9900 running cooler than the P series ... I always thought the lower wattage Ps would run cooler. Thank you for the info Panda thats good to know.

 

Well my T9600 also idle lower between 25C-30C depending on ambient compared to P7350 40-45C idle, but on load went higher 72C on stress tests, but in normal gaming never passes 55C.

I doubt they will go lower, maybe but i dont think so, with i3/i5 replacing the P/T in dual cores, in time we might see this chips disappearing, specially this T9900 which is the best cpu after the X9100 in T series, idk how much time it might stay in stock, when i bought my T9600 the T9900 used to sell around $400-500 in ebay (even right now link), until the HP released at those prices.

 

What program are you using to monitor temperatures? My T9600 idle's at about 40-45C..gaming load about 60C..

The P7350 has TJ Max of 90C while the T9600 has one of 105C, so you have to adjust the temperature program accordingly (in my case HWMonitor) so that it reflects this. Otherwise you'll be getting temperatures which appear to be 15C cooler than they actually are. Sometimes I wonder if the temps some people report are actually right or not because of this..

If you add 15C to your T9600's 25-30C temp, it makes it 40-45C which is what I get. Are you sure you've got the correct TJ Max set? My P7350 also idled at around 40-45C (in a previous post I said I get 50C but this was because my TJ Max was set to 100C making the reading 10C higher than it actually was). The P7350 is DEFINITELY cooler than the T9600.

 

Intesting, ill have to check atm on my desktop, but yea you might be right. Heres a couple of screens from the time that i got the laptop and upgrade the cpu, both on idle. Even adding +15C i would still idle a little lower than the P.

 

I just edited the above message. But yeah, if you add 15C to your CPU temps, that's about 43C which is the same range as what I get. If you're using HWMonitor, edit that config file it creates and the last line will show the TJ Max. It should be set at 105.0 for the T9600. This will give the correct CPU temps.

Like I said, the P7350 is definitely cooler than the T9600 and the P7450 is most likely cooler as well. It uses less power and runs at lower clock speeds. It only makes sense. I can't understand how it could run hotter.

 

The TJ max that has right now on my laptop is 100C (i assume from the beginning not 95C), but i would like try moving it to 105C to the correct values, can you tell me how, i tried modifying the config but its ini file so i guess i have modify it thru the regedit, but could you point me where pls.

 

You should be able to just open it with notepad.

 

I tried before, it cant be saved, says something like cannot create C:/XXX/XXXXX (the file), make sure the file and path name are correct.

 

Sorry to jump in so late, but I had a question of my own. It regards to the G60VX's fan speeds and temperatures while at idle. It was mentioned a couple times throughout this thread that sometimes while the system is idle, the fan speed will bounce between off and on rather than staying on constantly.

Reason why I bring this up, is that I recently purchased a G60VX-RBBX05 from the local Best Buy and had a similar issue. Long story short, I went through two different laptops, both with the same issue. I really would like a G60VX as I really liked its specs, keyboard, etc... but I'd like to learn more about what I'm talking about first before trying a third time.

More detailed information is as follows:

What my laptop was doing was at idle (with no programs actively running), instead of running at a nice constant whisper, the fan stays virtually off for about 15 seconds, cranks up to full blast for 10 seconds, then repeats this.

I called ASUS tech assistance and explained the situation. Lady spent a few minutes asking around, came back and said that was not normal and to go back to Best Buy and have them either try to repair/replace the fan/cooling setup or just exchange it out entirely.

Also, did a few tests myself. First tried Furmark to see how hot it actually can get. GPU went up to 102 C which wasn't unexpected but still an unwelcome amount of toasty.

I also tried SpeedFan 4.40 to check and track CPU and GPU temps. Not surprising, the chart easily shows where the fan stops and starts again. It stays almost completely off till the GPU scorches up to 90 C, then kicks on full blast to cool it down to about 72 where it turns off again. Repeat. The CPU meanwhile also wavered, but stayed in the lower 30's (between 33-35°C) See chart below for visual.



NOTE AGAIN THAT ALL OF THIS IS DONE TOTALLY IDLE. NO other apps are running aside from SpeedFan itself.

Any thoughts? How out of the ordinary is this? I don't know if this is typical of this model, or if this is a sure sign of something seriously wrong in the way this laptop is handling cooling (personally, heating something to nearly 100 C and back down to 72 and back every 30 seconds can't be good for the internals...).

I'm also wondering if anyone knows of a program I can use with this model to "tame" the fan speeds, or if there is a BIOS update that will fix this issue (if it's even considered an "issue"). I also suspect it may be a power-saving feature that may need to be adjusted. Or, perhaps its an issue with the GPU and a nVidia driver update would help?

I know this was a long post, but again I'd really like to give the G60Vx another shot. Any insight or points in the right direction would be greatly appreciated. =D

 

Hmm. Make sure powermizer is correctly downclocking your GPU. Use GPU-Z to check the clocks.

Also, you might have to use a non-Aero theme.

 

I'm thinking about going ahead and repasting my cpu/gpu(forge is aware of this lol).

But before I do that, I would like to know a little more of what I'm getting into.

Exactly how difficult is the removal and reassembly of the heatsink assembly? Is it just removing the screws and folding back the fan/heatsink? Are there any tricks or things to watch out for? Unexpected bumps to be aware of?

How difficult is it to remove the stock heatsink paste? I've dealth with some that were simply just wiping it clean and otheres where the stuff is dried and formed and you litterally have to spend an hour gently scrubbing it away piece at a time. So I'm really hoping the heatsink paste on these ICs are not going to be a pain to clean off.

Basically for those who have done this, in your experience I would just like a detailed step by step and a heads up on what to look out for.

Thanks so much
Max

 

For the CPU: Just unscrew the 6 screws, unplug the power cable and lift up the heatsink 90 degrees and let it lean.

For the GPU: Just unscrew the 2 screws and wiggle the heatsink loose. If you have the stock paste on, it'll probably feel like there's another screw holding it down but there isn't. Just need to wiggle/pull a bit harder. Once it's come off, lift it so that the heatsink is not in contact with the GPU core, move the entire heatsink assembly to the left and the entire unit will pop out.

The stock paste is hard and dried up so you'll need to scrape it off. Yep, it's annoying.

 

oh wow...i thought the heatsink for both the cpu and gpu was just one big unit. So they actually come off seperately?

 

Both CPU and GPU have their own separate heatsinks but they're both connected to the fan to make up the one big heatsink assembly. See the below pic.

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Ok...Thanks. I'm thinking since I am only seeming to have trouble with my CPU temps, I will just repaste that. MY GPU never seems to get hotter than 75C and normally stays around 68C while playing, and idles around 60C. As where my CPU gets as hot as 62C and normally stays around 55C. Do you think my CPU is getting hot enough to go ahead and repaste it?

Also, is it safer to just leave my CPU attached to my motherboard while I clean/reapply the paste? Or would it be best to remove the CPU and clean/reapply the paste and then re-attach it to the Motherboard?

Thanks,
Max

 

Alright i put the paste on the processor and the other IC that had this pad thing instead of paste...what is that IC??? i know its not the GPU...can't figure out what it is...i hope the heatsink is making contact with it because that pad seemed pretty thick, and i removed that pad and put a thin skim coat of AS5 on the die...was this ok? Did you guys replace that thermal pad with thermal compound too????????

After about 20 minutes of playing WoW...my temps don't seem any lower...still about 57C on my CPU Core 1 and 54C on Core 2...?

 

Sorry, I'm in Australia so there's a time difference. Do you have a G60VX with a P7450? Your CPU temps seemed fine to begin with. Are you undervolting your CPU?

Are you using HWMonitor to check the temps? If so, ensure you have the right TJMax. Open the 'hwmonitorw.ini' file with notepad and change the bottom TJMax reading accordingly. If you have a P7450 make it 90.0 and if you have a T9900 (this thread is regarding T9900 so guessing) then make it 105.0. This will ensure you get the correct CPU readings.

Yes it is safe to leave the CPU connected to the motherboard while you change. Just make sure you unplug the battery before doing so.

That other core you were looking at is the chipset. You didn't need to touch that. The pad could have just stayed on. I'm not sure if removing it and replacing it with paste is good or bad. Someone else will you have to help you with this.

If you're GPU is getting a max of 75C then that's unusually low (in a good way) because most people get a minimum of around 88C while playing. Then again, you are playing WoW and I don't know how hot that makes things since I don't play it.

Changing the paste is usually done because of high GPU temps. For example, I was getting a max of 97C but after changing the paste with some ICD7, I got 86C max. A reduction in CPU temps is just a bonus since they're not a problem for nearly everyone.

 

what is the chipset for? I hope someone can help!! I'm paranoid now!!

and yes apparently i hwmonitor was reading my temps wrong...because i dled another program and saw that my temps on my cpu were around 40C...so i did all this for nothing and now im freaking out!!!!

bboy1 could you ask around if you know anyone here? I'm not sure if anyone else comes to this thread anymore and im really worried. HWMonitor says my Thrm (chipset) is between 50C and 56C is that too hot?

Just looked at the picture on the first page...looks like the OP removed his thermal pad from his chipset...just a question on weather he put it back or not.