Asus ROG Strix SCAR 17 G733QS-XS98Q

I would. Gpu performance is more important than cpu performance.

 

But how much of a difference will an additional 15 watts for the gpu actually make?

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5-10%.

That said, the actual difference will more around 20-30w since in games dynamic boost won't be always running at 130w. So in reality it'll likely be 10-20% depending on the specific game.

And thats assuming the 150w card doesn't have dynamic boost

 

I guess the 150W version has a boost too?

 

Alienware is the only one to have confirmed it (150w+15w for the 3080M). But judging by the MSI GT76 dominating benchmarks on 3dmark it probably is 150+15w as well.

 

Which alienware is this?

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AW m17 r4 afaic
are GT76 ahead of AW?

 

What about the Alienware Area 51m will that get the 30 series cards?

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They haven't released any information about refreshing the 51m yet- in the AMA seems to imply they won't be doing a refresh on those anytime soon.

 

We are barely talking about Asus laptop anymore lol

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It seems like everyone is moving away from bulky gaming laptops now

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A-ha yeah... im still torn whether i return it or not...

 

The GE76 is. There will be no GT76 this gen since apparently msi doesn't think a 3070 chip is worth it's top laptop.

The Scar 17 isn't the best this generation to put it nicely.

 

Ya unfortunately, if alieware had the area 51m with 30 series i would of jumped on that

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Well, from my point of view, actually the Scar 15/17 from last generation were the really bad ones, both in price/quality ratio in relation to performance and thermal design capabilities, and in fan noise.

Instead, from the few reviews and video tests out there I've seen until now, and despite some shortcomings (like unused chassis space and absence of thunderbolt 3) I think that it's exactly this Scar that may be the best, cause on the paper it has everything, from balance between performance/temperature and a thermal design that seems not to be aggressive on the fans by default anymore (= around 41dB in performance mode and 45dB in turbo is a result that only few laptops have achieved) and lets you set them as you want, temperatures not the greatest but still between safe opeating range, and additions like adaptive sync that really makes a difference to me where g-sync is not present. Hopefully, the Ryzen 7 + FullHD + 3070 shouldn't even cost a fortune. I'm just a little afraid of liquid metal performance over time, but we'll see.

What are the other options out there? GE76 has no adaptive sync and still uses that Intel 10 series crap (which is a huge NO to me), and will surely cost a fortune given its history, especially here in Italy where I live. The Alienwares? Yeah sure, if you are satisfied with a $2500-3000+ machine that has a very bad thermal design since at least two generations, in which components easily reach 100 C and fans are a couple of jets. GPU wattage isn't everything, unfortunately.

 

Precisely why it was so disappointing to see Asus do this kind of thing on their Scar 17.

The Scar 15 is fine, on par with its 15 inch peers.

 

The zephyrus duo 15 with 3080 might have better cooling too compared to the scar 17 that second screen lifts up which allows the fans to get better air flow and also I don't understand why the zephyrus duo has 280 watt power brick when the scar 17 only has a 240 watt.

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thanks for your inputs, it makes sense.
Lenevo Legions are good options apparently too but not available yet ofc

 

Would anyone think the zephyrus duo is worth the extra money? People flashed the vbios to a 150w gpu and are apparently getting good temps.

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I'm thinking about that one too but it's so bloody expensive in EU, from 3.9 to 4.2k€ which makes it not really worth I'd say, especially with the uncertainty of the bioses atm... Maybe later though.

 

At that price I'd just get the GE76, cheaper, no optimus performance loss, good thermals and comes with the 150w+ vbios.

That said if you want a thin and light with GE76 level performance and a better cpu the zephyrus duo + vbios flash is the only option.

I'd only get the scar 15 if gaming is not the focus and I'm mainly using it for productivity. The scar 17 doesn't offer any benefit over the Scar 15.

 

I agree, the scar 15 was successfully flashed too

 

Just one big problem: noise.
And I'm not so sure about good thermals too, with that 10th gen Intel cpu and a 150W+ gpu.

By the way, despite all the raw power it could carry, I think that a 17" laptop so expensive that has no adaptive sync is pointless, and a huge waste of money (= if you have to plug it into a monitor to have g-sync or freesync, then it completely destroys the purpose of having a gaming laptop). But I understand this may be just my personal opinion.

 

ge76 have the best cooling so far.

 

If someone has fiound any, I would be interested to see some videos in which there is proof of this. Cause the only few infos I've got until now about the GE76 2021 say quite the opposite, unlickily.

 

https://epicpc.com.au/2021/02/03/light-em-up-msi-ge76-raider-10uh-unbox-review/

 

Given that the ideal thing would be to see videos with real in-game temps and performance rather than tests, what I read is 94-96 degrees max on cpu with auto-fan settings, and that's exactly what I was saying. Cooler boost tries to manage the things a little better but with a fan noise resulting in 59dB which is even worse than the ones of my current laptop (~55dB on turbo), which was in turn one of the noisier laptops of 2018. Unless you have a pair of headset with very very good ANC, that amount of noise is... well, insane.
The cpu can't even sustain its stated turbo clocks over long periods of time cause of the overheating, as reported even by them it almost always throttles to ~3,7GHz.

I won't say it's a bad machine overall of course, it has its good things. But personally I wouldn't consider that a good cooling design, least of all the best cooling design; as it just ramps up fans a lot to try to cope with the heat generated by that crap cpu. Neither a good choice overall to put an i9 in a laptop, indeed I think it's actually really pointless, considering it can't be overclocked due to thermals and can't be undervolted cause of Plundervolt. But I know, it's the way marketing goes.

If you're interested in the GE76, if I were you, I would wait for intel 11th series refresh, hoping it will solve most of the issues caused by their 14nm+++++++++++++++ and unlock undervolt again.

 

Exactly why I said that there's no perfect laptop yet for RTX 3000.

The closest one would be the Zephyrus Duo crossflashed with a 150w 3080M vbios.

 

All I want is a 5900hx, 150w+15w 3080, 17" 4k 120hz 500+nit dci-p3, 64gb 3200 ram, 2tb seagate 520 gen4, 1tb sam 980 pro gen4. I don't care if it weighs 8-9 pounds and has a 350 watt brick. Why is this so hard?

 

Zeph Duo screen is barely sRBG and has terrible response rates.

 

Aha in a world covid free maybe...
Look at lenovo legion 7 they are promising:
5900hx
3080 150w
Great screen panel

 

lol

Better buying a desktop then, it would be more powerful and cost a little less ^^

 

I need mobile, but the laptops all have this, its just they aren't in 1 machine. It drives me nuts.
The Lenovo Legion 7 is close, but the display is also only 100% sRBG and not even Adobe RBG. I do need at least Adobe RBG for creative. Whereas the 2k ROG Strix Scar 17 is DCI-P3. I can custom order the ROG on xotic pc with the two SSDs I mentioned, but on Lenovo' website they only let you change the size of the drive and not the quality. I feel like all the companies quickly threw together a lot of mid range stuff but nothing of quality. Most really skimp on displays even though last generation had some better displays. Most won't include 3200Mhz ram. And most are gen3 low endurance SSDs. This ROG is closest, but the 17 could have had better cooling since people are saying there's extra room in it and they could have bumped the graphics card to at least 135+15.

 

Most likely one of the versions of the Legion 7 will have the 100% Adobe RGB panel. In the previous gen the 144Hz 500nit panel was 100% Adobe RGB.

Lenovo_Legion_7_15IMH05_Spec.PDF

 

As I read those legion pro with rtx3000 are going to be hot even more than strix/zepyrus so if those will be as well louder and it looks like this is the case its not for everyone. My Alienware is like a jet under load but I did not saw anything much better the asus is much pleasant had it with 3070(had machine with temp issue 100C on cpu no matter what so sent it back -did not used manual) so now caught good promotion for 17 scar with 5800h and 3080 16gbvram and I will give it a try. If not the temperatures I would be realy happy about the 3070 version and overal package.
If you are looking only for raw power there are better options but if you look for the great overal packet asus scar/zaphyrus is the way to go.

 

Its done. My asus scar 17 with the 3080 works with 3080 bios from the ge76

 

Is it stable with temps, and do you see artifacting on the screen during benchmarks and gaming?

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Its stable and no problems

 

Are you seeing 150watts for the gpu? How much performance gain you got?

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Now with the ne bios, i get a time spy score 12410

 

what are temps you are hitting with the GPU and CPU while gaming with an intesive game like cyberpunk 2077?

 

I will check this

 

new leaks about the new Legion 7 say its only sRBG.

 

Hi, I consider replacing my MSI GE75 (as in my signature) with a new Asus ROG Strix SCAR 17 G733Q. I have one question: is it possible to set up this Asus so that it is inaudible or almost inaudible during document editing/www browsing? Currently my MSI GE75 can keep cpu fan and gpu fan at about 1500rpm so that I hardly hear it during such tasks. I am a bit allergic to noise while I edit documents, images, e-mails or browse www. However during gaming my MSI is noisy. I suppose during gaming Asus is less noisy?

 

G733QS 5900HX 3080 16g , 32g ram, flashed with ge76 vbios

 

Overclocked?

The GE76 hits 14k timespy graphics after an OC

 

no overclock

 

Can you let us know what are the temps on gpu and cpu while playing cyberpunk?

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I just saw a couple of websites saying that the QHD DCI-P3 screen is only 300 nits. Is this true? If so, I'm def not buying this anymore if I can't even use it in a bright room or outside.

 

Gaming laptops screens are all around 200-300ish nits unfortunately, except maybe some from Lenovo which are above 400 nits and marked as HDR400.