Asus UL30JT

The asus rep said that the U30Jc "is what you will be wanting" - even if you don't want it.

 

I dont think the U30JC will sell as well as it should with the prospect of the UL30JT looming over it, this is why ASUS has to force us to buy it lol.

 

it'll cater to consumers in need for a more speedier processor and convenience of optical drive. still excited for this though.

 

Dude, you might be onto something. Remember, Asus unlike Apple is new to the game of PR in the world of PC marketing. Look at the number of people who've replied to the facebook posting and have "liked" it. All these info leaks over the months have all been part of generating hype and awareness.

It's coming. It's no longer a matter of "if" but "when." I'm waiting until July latest for it. It's either this or the MSI X360 unless Sony does a surprise refresh of the Y.

 

Copy/Paste from the posting:



ASUS Official Page
For those that have been waiting for UL30JT with the specs that were leaked on the internet, it has never been officially confirmed with those specs, so please dont wait for it. The up coming product IS what you should have been exposed to and what you will be wanting. I can't emphasize this enough...


Matthew Krysinski
What Core processor? Core i3, i5, or i7?

ASUS Official Page
you'll find out in less than a week matt. but i don't think an i7 6xx series will get much battery life...




One week. Probably the UL30JC.


Vague language, but that just means another 100+ postings about the UL/PL30JT until it gets released.

 

http://www.asus.com/product.aspx?P_ID=dh1loes9V1IGKwCA

First, Asus official product info... it *is* coming.

Secondly, this shows something not shown before, a full numeric keypad! Not sure if I like that, having problems finding the Enter key in the middle... maybe, maybe not.

Third, this spec makes it 100% identical to PL30JT, even the LCD is now the same glare on both :-( .

 

Finally a real release! It does exist, as we all knew all along. Now to that release date and pricing...

The Asus guy on the Facebook page does not seem to know what he is talking about. He says we all want the U30JC--when we don't. He says the UL30JT is not coming out soon, yet it is released on the main website this morning. He also says it will be a "long time" until the JT is available. Let's hope his pattern of accuracy hold true in this case as well.

The Acer 3820TG looks to be available in May. Let's hope for the VT as well. Then we can have a real comparison with pricing. If Asus drops the ball, whether because their marketing stinks or because they can't get their hands on the i-Core processors, they will lose business.

 

Well, it's not *exactly* on the USA site so maybe it's not coming here? The specs are there but that's about it: http://usa.asus.com/product.aspx?P_ID=dh1loes9V1IGKwCA

 

Well..... looks pretty much the same thing than my UL30VT ............. with less battery life ??? ...... lol !

 

Umm no. It's got an Intel Core i5 Processor 520UM and an NVIDIA GeForce 310M with 1GB DDR3 Dedicated graphics card.. both of which are better than the SU7300 Core 2 Duo and the NVIDIA GeForce G 210M with 512MB Dedicated on the UL30VT.

 

I keep getting the feeling, between this, and this undisclosed model which "we should be wanting".. that Asus probably doesn't know WHAT we want... which makes me feel like the UL30JT when it does come out, won't have the specs we want, and will be beat by other similar laptops around the time.

 

Thanks Asus Rep for knowing what i want...

I will want the U30jc if it has 4-5 hour gaming/hd-video playback that the ul30jt will get, which is doubtful since it has a full power cpu instead of ulv core

Asus Rep, if you knew what I wanted the ul30jt would already be out instead of having me wait months for this u30jc (which i don't want) upon months for possible release in the future...

 

1 GB of VRAM for a GPU liek that is simply too much, it can't benefit from this added VRAM.

And for the CPU, I don't think the difference will be amazing. Maybe 5-10 % increase with the HT tech. Maybe 15 % in some cases... But I prefer to get 2 hours of battery life of more, pay less and get a SSD

 

Asus has had 142 pages and many months to figure out what we want! If they won't listen then they will lose out. Capitalism and the free market are great things! Always messy, but best in the long run for all of us. Bring on the competition!

 

Darn double post

 

It hasn't been benchmarked, so I wouldn't simply go off made up extrapolations.

The i5 ULV is said to have hyper-threading and turbo-boosting. I'm willing to bet that both together will bring the benchmarks well past 10%.


But hey, whatever it takes to convince yourself that you're happy with your buy.

 

Remember turbo-boost applies only for one core at a time (the one solicited). Well, if my memory is good.

Anyways, I'm not convinced of a real gap between both CPUs. Sure, it will have one. A significant one? I don't think so. But this is only speculations.

 

No mention of Bluetooth, and no mention of being able to switch between the Intel HD Graphics and the nVIDIA graphics....

 

Not really. The i7 620UM base frequency is 1.2 GHz. Turbo frequency is 1.87 GHz when using both cores, 2.17 GHz when using only one core.

 

To add to that, the new Nvidia Optimus graphics are worth the wait. Better graphics performance paired with the CPU's ultra low 18w TDP which includes the integrated graphics' power consumption levels on top of seamless graphics switching. I'll lug around my workhorse a little longer if it means I can snap up one of these babies later on down the road.

 

So I've finally decided on one of the Asus UL series after messing around with a UL50 at a Best Buy. I loved the look of the aluminum, and the build quality seemed pretty good (besides some flex in the keyboard, but I can live with that).

My old Lenovo Y430 just got stolen from my house, so I need a replacement sometime soon. I am also seriously considering the new Y460 with discrete graphics, but unless there is a killer discount code (damn Lenovo) then I will hold out longer.

I just can't bring myself to pull the trigger on a UL30vt or UL80vt when I have seen the specs of the JC versions. I'm borrowing a friends Samsung N120 netbook, and it really isn't cutting it but hopefully I can hold out for the JC versions whenever they get released.

 

Buy the UL30VT now unless you can wait for another 6 months. It might be along wait for the UL30Jt. Intel has decided to hold off on the ultra low seruies I5/I7 until Q3.

http://www.slashgear.com/intel-freeze-culv-refresh-over-calpella-success-0280119/

Bronsky

 

So Q3 it is. Quick question. Acccording to wikipedia, the fiscal year starts in October, making Q3 start from April and end at June:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fiscal_year#United_States

* 1st Quarter: October 1, 2009 - December 31, 2009
* 2nd Quarter: January 1, 2010 - March 31, 2010
* 3rd Quarter: April 1, 2010 - June 30, 2010
* 4th Quarter: July 1, 2010 - September 30, 2010



Are we to assume we'll see some major releases around that time, or is my time frame way off?

 

we would need to see intel's fiscal calendar, as it may be different...

edit: http://earnings.com/company.asp?client=cb&ticker=intc

if you check the website above, it indicates intel's earnings release for q1 2010 is sometime between april 13 - april 23. therefore, it would be reasonable to assume intel's fiscal year is similar to the calendar year.

 

I don't think you are right about this, unless I'm missing something. The processors being frozen are the generation after the i-cores. The i3/i5/i7 processors are already in use by people around the world. Sony has them out; Dell has them out; HP has them out. It's Acer, Asus, and others who have not yet released their next designs using the i-core chips, but the chips are in production and out there. We are not going to have to wait another 6 months see some new models coming out using the i-core chips.

That doesn't mean that individual companies may face delays in getting their new products out, like Asus and the UL30JT, but we are going to see more of these laptops coming out in the next couple months.

 

here is intel's fiscal calendar for 2009

q1: december 28, 2008 - march 28, 2009
q2: march 29, 2009 - june 27, 2009
q3: june 28, 2009 - september 26, 2009
q4: september 27, - december 26, 2009

source: intel's 2009 form 10-k (page 22)
http://files.shareholder.com/downlo...7a-ab11-1c429129f601/Intel_2009_Form_10-K.pdf

page with link to above
http://www.intc.com/annuals.cfm

 

I think we are in for a long wait...

 

Here's another article.

http://www.netbookchoice.com/2010/04/02/intel-delays-next-gen-culv-processors-until-q3-2010/

I have no idea what all this means for the Asus UL30JT. It would be nice if Asus would say something. To be sure, it could have nothing to do with the I5/I7 CULV chips. In fact, an I5-CULV chip was recently shown on a prototype Acer 1830T. Then again!!!

Bronsky

Edit: Looking at these articles again, I think they are talking about the CULV versions of the I5/I7. This would be the I5/I7 CULV that was slated for the UL30JT. This could be the main reason for the delay in releasing the UL30JT. Unless Asus decides to switch to full powered I5s/I7s, the JT will probably not be coming out until late summer.

 

Pretty good deal on the UL30a -X5 floating at Amazon for $599.
Free US shipping and no tax taken.
See details and discussion here.

 

Rumours are circulating that Intel is delaying its next generation CULV processors until the third quarter of this year at the earliest, as it looks to exhaust existing supplies following weaker than expected sales of ultra-thin notebooks. Manufacturers saw ultra-thins contribute 10-15 percent of 2009 shipments, lower than the 20-30 percent forecasted.

Everyone get out there and buy the UL30VT's now so we can get the UL30JT sooner! hehe
Joking aside, thats actually what I'll probably do

 

What about this?

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16834110404

How did they manage to squeeze these by all the other big manufacturers? Weird huh?

 

http://ark.intel.com/Product.aspx?id=47700

 

I was mistaken before. You all are right. The CULV i-Core chips are being held back, which means that the UL30JT will not be out anytime soon (as many of you have been pointing out). So, the comment from the Asus rep on Facebook that it will be a "long time" before the JT comes out is actually correct. My bad to that guy, whoever he is.

I can't wait another 6 months, though I can wait 2. So I'll wait to see about the availability and price of the Acer 3820TG. That looks to be out sometime in May. If it is not released by then or is too expensive then it is to the UL30VT that I go, having saved $150 since I last had placed an order for it (when it was backordered on Amazon), an order I quickly cancelled when word of the JT came out.

Either way, I come out ahead for having some patience.

 

Asus Ul30JT Specs:

http://www.asus.com/product.aspx?P_ID=dh1loes9V1IGKwCA

-Intel® Core™ i5 Processor 520UM
-NVIDIA® GeForce® 310M, with 1GB DDR3 VRAM
-Equipped with NVIDIA Optimus technology
-Price???

p.s. This may not be the US version/model.

 

http://www.notebookjournal.de/tests/laptop-review-asus-ul30jt-nkrt-1129/1

 

Nope. Bronsky's talking about the ULV i-series processors that come in the ultra thin notebooks like the i5-520UM.

 

Damn. Someone in Germany got one to test? Wonder if it's a pre-production test model.

 

Sweet find.

I just read the entire review (using google translate) and here is what I gathered:

• Design is pretty much the same as the vt series
• Performance is excellent - noticable increase in speed
• Graphics same as vt
• Battery life is considerably shorter at only just over 4 hours
• Still some build quality issues - nothing major but things like display flex

 

I'll just wait until Monday to see if there is anymore of a price drop for the VT following whatever announcement/release is set for Monday the 5th.

So now it comes down to the Lenovo Y430 (if Lenovo releases another discount code) versus the Vt model...

 

Yeah, I did not remember the difference in wattage between the M's and UM's. I read something today about Acer not liking the performance of the new UM's, so they decided to go with the full powered i-Cores with their TimelineX models.

So, even though the TimelineX models will get respectable battery life, if you want superb battery life, you are likely going to be stuck with current gen laptops like the UL30VT.

I've learned a lot through this whole discussion. Thanks all for the education!

 

definitely talking about the ul30j..

http://www.engadget.com/2010/04/02/intel-putting-some-ultra-thin-laptop-cpus-on-hold-to-gauge-deman/

 

Not so important, but...
Asustek "reduced the price of its dual-core Intel SU7300-based ultra-thin notebook to below NT$30,000.

The company has also cut the price of its Calpella-based notebook series by NT$1,000 ($32 US), gearing up marketing efforts to compete against Acer's TimelineX series ultra-thin notebook."

At DigiTimes 4/1/2010

 

All drivers and manuals now up on the Asus site...

http://support.asus.com/download/download.aspx



~ Kooga

 

I think Digitimes/Engaget/etc are confusing the issue a lot here.

Calpella is the Intel codename for the latest version of the Centrino platform.

Calpella was intended to encompass CPUs with TDPs ranging from 18W (the dual core i5 and i7 UM series) to 55W (i7 Extreme Mobile).

It seems what these sites are trying to say is that Acer has at a late point chosen the i5/i7 M series (35W TDP) CPUs for their TimelineX series, and that since Acer was supposed to be a major customer for the UM series, Intel has as a result decided to delay introduction of the UM series CPUs. The laptops would have been "Calpella based" regardless of if the UM or M series CPUs were used... So I don't know why everyone is focusing on that terminology.

I think that can probably still hit their battery life targets at 8 hours "stated life" because the Core 2 Duo SUs have a TDP of 10W, and the GS45 chipset has a TDP of 12W, so really we are at 22W with the current designs. Perhaps they will do some agressive power management to keep the frequency of the CPUs from maxing out, while still keeping a speed advanage over the UMs.

 

Got some USB 3.0 Drivers? nice

 

Yea this is disappointing and at the same time pushes me towards the UL30VT. There's the much shorter battery life, but also it looks like the UL80JT is missing bluetooth, which I think should be included in any notebook by now. I'm not buying an ultra-portable just to have to stick warts in it.

By the way, can anyone tell me if there's a big difference in battery life between the UL30VT-X1 and A1? The battery rating difference seems big but according to the specs the battery life of the X1 is 11h vs 12h for the A1, which is almost the same.

 

Good...please buy the UL30VT. That'll leave one more extra UL30JT available for me.

 

I must say good-bye to this joyful thread. Time was pressing, and I've just bought an ASUS U30JC, with i5 430M 2.26GHz, 4G RAM, 500G HDD. Good luck to those who keep waiting!

 

I found this on some german forum.

UL30JT-RX008V
13.3" LED
i5-520UM
NV GT310M 1GB DDR3+Intel GMA X4500/Optimus
4G DDR3
500GB
w/o ODD
802.11g/BT/0.3Mpix cam/Altec Lansing/HDMI/3xUSB2.0/8 cells/chiclet keyboard
Win7P 64Bit

preis: 3799 pln / 986 euro

UL30JT-RX014V
13.3" LED
i5-520UM
NV GT310M 1GB DDR3+Intel GMA X4500/Optimus
2G DDR3
500GB
w/o ODD
802.11g/BT/0.3Mpix cam/Altec Lansing/HDMI/3xUSB2.0/8 cells/chiclet keyboard
Win7P 64Bit

preis: 3599 pln / 934 euro

UL30JT-RX011V
13.3" LED
i5-520UM
NV GT310M 1GB DDR3+Intel GMA X4500/Optimus
2G DDR3
320GB
w/o ODD
802.11g/BT/0.3Mpix cam/Altec Lansing/HDMI/3xUSB2.0/8 cells/chiclet keyboard
Win7P 64Bit

preis: 3499 pln / 908 euro


PL80JT-WO021X
14" LED HD non-glare
i5-520UM
NV GT310M 1GB DDR3+Intel GMA X4500/Optimus
4G DDR3
500GB
8DL
802.11g/BT/0.3Mpix cam/FP/Altec Lansing/HDMI/3xUSB2.0/8 cells/chiclet keyboard/bag&mouse
Win7Prof 64bit

preis: 4399 pln / 1142 euro

PL30JT-RO029X
13.3" LED non-glare
i5-520UM
NV GT310M 1GB DDR3+Intel GMA X4500/Optimus
4G DDR3
500GB
w/o ODD
802.11g/BT/0.3Mpix cam/FP/Altec Lansing/HDMI/3xUSB2.0/8 cells/chiclet keyboard/bag&mouse
Win7Prof 64bit

preis: 4099 pln / 1064 euro

 

If they are going to post the specifications for vaporware, the least they should do is include a vaporware edition of the I7-620UM.

Bronsky