Asus UL30JT

Yesterday I asked my asus dealer to order for me UL30VT and she answer me that there is no more UL30VT for ordering (EOL - End of line) and there will be new model for 5-6 weeks. She doesent knowed the next model becouse she was waiting the official price list from ASUS, but i'm sure it is UL30JT.

 

Well, that's good news, I guess. I hope you're right.

 

I doubt it really is the UL30JT due to the unavailability of the ULV i5 processors until summer. Maybe it will be the U33JC? Either would be good.

 

Nice to know. But 5-6 weeks? I doubt it's the UL30JT. It sounds a bit too early. Intel's shipping the ULV i5 processors around Q3. That means earliest we'll see a UL30JT is July/August/September.


I'd say the store's looking at one of the U3XJ models that's been getting reviews.

 

I would think they would continue to produce the VT even as they brought out new models, at least for a few more months.

 

I hope so, just in case the UL30JT or whatever is the next model launches and it sucks or its out of my price range and then I am stuck.

 

The UL30 is still available in HK as of today. I don't think that the UL30 being EOL is very correct...

 

Available just means they haven't run out of stock, probably

 

I noticed that on the italian Acer site the new Timelinex 3820t seems already available. It comes in 2 flavours: one with a core i3-330M and Intel Media Accelerator 4500MHD, one with a core i5-430 and an ATI 5470 512MB.

One day Intel is delaying new ulv processors, and the next day those processors are already here. I'd really like to put my hands on the UL30JT, but I hope we don't have to wait until Q3.

 

oh well, answering myself.. I didn't notice that the fudzilla article posted some days ago was referring to "UM" cores and not "M".. seems like I'll have to wait a bit then..

 

Celeron U3400 coming, so Arrandale culv's are coming soon.

 

Official site of UL30JT, but no release date yet.
http://www.asus.com/product.aspx?content=specifications&P_ID=dh1loes9V1IGKwCA

 

There is a video on the site that clearly shows off the UL30A or the Vt...this might mean that the Jt is not a finsihed product yet and that it could still take a while until it is released. And then there is of course the issue with Intel UM processors...

 

Directly quoting from that link...

Unfortunately Q3 is a quite long time away about 3-5 months (July-September) and this is the same time the i5/i7 UMs will appear as well.

 

On the Asus Facebook page Asus replied that a non-ulv CPU could be a possiblity for the UL series. I know it is like saying they could "possibly" throw a GT 335m in the UL series but I thought I'd throw it out there. Could give some merit to the 4-5 week release date of the VT successor...

 

I really hope so...I would be fine with a non-ULV CPU

 

They should use the LM versions which are more powerful than the UM's yet not as power hungry as the M's.

This is Intel's fault. Why can't they have ample supplies of new processors at launch?

 

It could be a lot of reasons. Maybe they just didn't anticipate a surge in demand for notebooks? We have to remember that a lot more companies than usual are jumping aboard the slim and light bandwagon. Slim and light are no longer the domain of only the business world and the wealthy who back then could drop $2,000 for an ultraportable without blinking. I'm not surprised by the shortage at all. In fact, I wouldn't be surprised if Apple were in the process of finalizing a multi-billion dollar bulk order deal with Intel this very moment.


If that's the case, Intel probably has an arrangement in which it won't give any single notebook manufacturer priority in its CPU sales--at least not without offering extra $$$ for a package deal as a bribe. If Intel's more recent statements are any good, we'll probably see some new ULV i-series notebooks by the middle of summer.


I, for one, I'm willing to wait. I'm all for getting the latest and the greatest at a good price if it means my hardware will still be able to chug away at high-res movies and open up 50 different windows years down the road. I know that the logic behind future-proofing is self-defeating when we take it to the point of waiting forever for the best upgrades. But in this case, because I foresee Flash 10.1 becoming finalized and unleashing the power of hardware acceleration, I'm gunning for seamless graphics switching experience. I'll be open and honest and saying I want my Nvidia Optimus!

 

Me too, but not so long. I like getting a computer with the latest, but I want it at the beginning of the year. As the months roll on, we begin to hear more and more about that processors replacement (in this case Sandy Bridge), and if that processor is not out soon enough, I am likely to skip it all together and wait for the next one at the beginning of the year.

 

Nice of you to bring it up.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Intel_Sandy_Bridge_(microarchitecture)#Architecture

Interesting read even for this uninformed joe.


But yeah, I won't wait tooooo long either! Technically for my needs, a SU7300+turbo and and Asus' current graphics switching on the UL80VT/UL30VT is good enough. But now the Core 2 CULV platform as a whole is nearing its 2nd birthday. Though the SU7300 is much faster than the Celeron M723 that came out, I'd like to be part of the new i-series evolution! I'm not asking for a quad-core. My next desktop will most definitely have at least 4 cores or more. A high-performance low voltage i5 is good enough for me!

 

According to this article its due to poor demand, not that they underestimated the demand. But who knows? I just want one now!
http://www.electronista.com/articles/10/04/02/intel.to.delay.next.culv.chips.due.to.poor.demand/

 

They didn't underestimate the demand... I think Intel is just causing an artificial shortage. This time last year Intel's CEO mentioned they believe CULV's are the next best thing.. I don't think they are underestimating anything.

 

My Q to ASUS

I am about to buy an ASUS 13 inch or 14 inch laptop which will probably have an i3 processor (when it is released) . Will I be able to upgrade the i3 to a Low voltage i5 or i7 when they are released?

A from ASUS:

"If he changes the CPU then his warranty will be void so we can’t really recommend he changes it.

However, if he wants to wait, the PL series may be what he is after, Core i5 with CULV, that should be out this quarter."

 

So you think they might have it available earlier in China possibly? I guess 2009 turned out to be a less than rosy year for the SU7300! Originally they forecasted 9 million units sold. Guess they never made the target.

Artificially raising prices by stifling supply? Well, they DO have to protect their bottom line. It doesn't make sense to ramp up their factories early in the game if they can just optimize their employees' labor for maximum efficiency right around summer and before back to school season shopping starts!

 

Many sites have stated culv machines have not sold as well as hoped, so because of that Intel is not going to focus on them first. I read somewhere Acer said their culv machines made up less than 10% of machines sold last year.

 

That's why Intel need - no, we need - more competition. One of the more reasons that AMD, Via, and the US/EU governments have to step up and keep Intel in check. Competition is good for the consumers, period.

 

LOL. Are you my long lost brother?!

I had the EXACT same thought last night! I've been following the aviation market for a couple of years as well. One thing I've noticed is that this duopoly between Airbus and Boeing has allowed both companies to be remiss in their delivery schedules. It's because we've seen delay upon delay of the A380 and the 787 over the years a lot of airliners got screwed up the arse.

I found that there were some similarities between the CPU industry and the aviation industry. Only two major players. A duopoly. And the fact that delays are excused as being commonplace as a result of an absence of a 3rd player.

My conclusion for both CPUs and airplanes made last night is the same: There needs to be more competition. If this were 5 years ago, I wouldn't have said this. But now that we have a growing middle class in a lot of developing countries, the market has grown far too big for the consumers' good. That's why I'm glad the Chinese government's been encouraging its industries to work on developing an alternative to what's available right now.


Speaking of which... has AMD been doing all this time? Any ULV i5 competitors on the horizon?

 

Those were my thoughts too. Laptop sales rose, but mostly in the non-ULV sector.

 

One possible reason for Intel delaying the releas the UM series is that the 32nm westmere process doesn't produce enough chips that fit in the UM specification (that is, they are not able to run at the desired clock speed at low voltages).

 

Huh? Westmere is a process? I thought it was a name of a platform.

 

http://www.fudzilla.com/content/view/18388/1/

What about the i5-520UM? I hope this isn't replacing! Intel's did have a much vaunted Q3 release of ULV i-series chips.

 

The i5-520UM isnt going to be replaced, i think that article is just referring to the fact that intel plans to make a celeron ULV is all in addition to its lineup of i-series ULV.

 

The Acer 3820 doesn't use the ULV CPUs, it uses the full 35W versions, like Asus U30JC and U33JC.

 

UPDATE:



ULV Core i5/i7 notebooks launching this month

http://www.semiaccurate.com/2010/04/09/ulv-core-i5i7-notebooks-launching-month/

I'll be waiting for further updates. The pricing for the UL30VT has me a bit confused. Unless $ doesn't mean US dollars, $915 is steep to pay for the UL30VT. The original retail price on Amazon.com ranged anywhere between $800-850 and is now discounted at $750.

I'm going to wait and see.

 

Wow that is an interesting find! Can't wait for more news on this...

 

Westmere is the first architecture to use 32nm process. So it is the 32nm shrink of Nehalem.

I hope we can trust on this news on semiaccurate. It would be enough if Asus could release even a small batch of Ul30Jts so that some tech site (preferably NBR) could review it properly and give us objective feedback. It then would be easier to choose between the different models (U30Jc, Ul30Vt, Ul30Jt, Acer 3820Tg.....)

 

No doubt about that! A few reviews of Asus' ULXXJT line and Acer's Timelines would be nice. It would give me plenty of time to compare and contrast these ultraportables and it'll end the agony and suspense of waiting for us all!


Especially for me, earlier is better! If they release them by say, end of April, many notebook companies would have to offer permanent discounts several months down the road to compete against each other on price points or offer temporary coupons for events like back to school.


But then again, we can't forget introductory discounts that I've seen some PC makers do in the past.

 

This is exactly what I think too!! If the reviews indicate that the some of these long waited products doesn't please me or fit my expectations I can just move on.

 

This is good news for all of you that were waiting for the UL30JT.

I think a more interesting device will be the pairing of one of these processors with the Ion 2 (the same GPU as the UL30JT) in an 11.6" sub-notebook. Make it a tablet and make it as thin and light as the LG X300 and you have a winner.

Still, I'm happy for those of you waiting for this notebook.

Bronsky

 

Korean article about the new ul30jt:

http://translate.google.com/transla...ewsRead.php?md=A01&tm=1&no=466757&sl=ko&tl=en

 

Error, doesn't want to work for me?

 

its these 2 articles put into google translate:
http://itnews.inews24.com/php/news_view.php?g_serial=485238&g_menu=020200

http://newswire.ytn.co.kr/newsRead.php?md=A01&tm=1&no=466757


ul30jt = 1,399,000 korean won = $1200 USD

 

On this page ETA for i5-520UM is 19.04.2010
http://webshop.multitech.se/PartDetail.aspx?q=p:2848191;pl:1

 

So which website started this rumor, Digitimes?

 

Probably Asus itself to boost early sales of the U30Jc.

Bronsky

 

Several have said the U30jc is bulky/thick. It looks to be about 3/16" thicker than the UL30vt, which doesn't seem like a whole lot to me.

It's the extra 1 lb weight (about one of my paperbacks I've been carrying around) that I'd prefer to trim along with the DVD drive I don't really need.

Though there have been times using my external DVD drive on my 1000H that I wished for a quick+easy internal DVD drive. But only sometimes.

 

That's what I'm debating over!


In a hypothetical situation in which the UL30JT and the UL80JT cost the same, I can't choose which one to go for! I can almost swear there's a huge difference in screwing viewing real estate between 13.3" and 14.1." But that extra pound might be a bit uncomfortable to lug around in my backpack.

 

I am really interested in the UL30JT. I really hope it comes out in April/May. I just sold my Samsung N510 netbook and am selling my HP TouchSmart iq526 to put the combined sales towards one.

I should end up with $900. Is it gonna be more than $1000?

 

Already selling in taiwan

http://tw.page.bid.yahoo.com/tw/auction/c50393303

33 000 Taiwan dollars = 1 046.628 U.S. dollars

 

Thanks for the fast reply. Well usually the US price is lower than the direct translation right? So we're looking between $900-$1000 hopefully. Also, are we getting the i5 or i7 processor here in the states? I'm still confused after looking through the thread.