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    Asus UL30JT

    Discussion in 'Asus' started by Hihi, Jan 9, 2010.

  1. lackofcheese

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    Keep in mind that the older UL30VT is ~1200 AUD in Australia, which is ~1100 USD. That's with 10% GST included, though (there's no extra tax on top of that).
     
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    So will the UL30JT be able to run the 520um from 1.06 to turbo boost at 1.86 then with turbo 33 to 2.4738?

    "This is thanks to groundbreaking ASUS Turbo33, which works in tandem with Intel® Turbo Boost Technology to enhance system performance by up to 33%—making light work of demanding tasks such as video playback. "
     
  4. lackofcheese

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    Wow, the U30JC is better for battery life than I expected it to be. It looks like because of the 84Whr battery, it's on par with the Acer TimelineX models. The Acers would do better with the 9 cell, they're lighter, and the HD 5650 is a far more powerful card, but all that will likely come at a significantly higher price.
     
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    Argh, yes I meant the jc >.> Sry I posted my message in the morning (I need to play final fantasy for 2-4 hours before I can focus).
     
  6. deviant.zero

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    Quote from Ken from GenTech
     
  7. p0int

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    From Intel facebook fan page:

    The Question:

    The response from Intel
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    So no ULV i-series chips until this summer confirmed. No UL30JT until June at the earliest i suppose. Unless of course ASUS decides to put a full powered i-series chip in the Ul30JT instead and somehow tweak it to get 8hours+ like what Acer is doing in their 3820T
     
  8. a2bucks

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    Good update. I agree with your assessment. Asus should have never released specs on this as early as they did. Big mistake on their part. Many of us now will go toward the Acer 3820TG. I had a UL30VT on order and cancelled it when I saw the specs for the JT. Oh well, their loss...maybe. I may still go for the VT if the Acer is too expensive. But now the VT is $150 less expensive.
     
  9. bozeefus

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    asus is already doing this.
    U30JC gets 7-8 hr battery life with wifi on and moderate browsing. :)
    mind you, it has switchable graphics and i3 processor so perhaps that's why
     
  10. p0int

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    Yes but the U30JC is not <4lb and is not <1-inch profile and no optical drive on the ul30jt which are the driving points of the UL30JT and why many of us want it :) And the Ul30JT is "supposedly" advertised as 12 hours (50% more than the U30JC) but frankly id be happy with a regular i-series chip on the Ul30JT and settle for 8 hours and have this laptop sitting in my dorm room already.

    They should make an update to the U30JC, remove the optical drive, make it slimmer and call it the U30JK (JK = just kidding :p because ASUS probably wont do it)
     
  11. Partizan

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    Isn't a 13 inch laptop mostly for people who have litle space? An external drive takes in more room, and I like a complete portable machine. One of the reasons wthat kept me from buying the current asus ul2 and ul3 laptops was a lack of an optical drive.
     
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    No, that's the U33JC.
     
  13. zeth006

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    Nah. Many of us already have a desktop replacement or a desktop for reading and burning disks. I personally won't be buying an external DVD/Blu-Ray drive since I already have a notebook that can read DVDs.

    An ultraportable laptop isn't geared toward those trying to save desk real estate. It's meant for people who're on the go and would benefit from being able to slip a lightweight 13.3" notebook into their backpack with no problems. There's no point in pissing away R&D on designing a thin and light notebook if it's just going to sit on your desk and look pretty.

    If you've been watching notebook trends, you'll notice that few thin notebooks if any come with reliable optical drives. Apple's so-called "super drives" which are found on its Macbooks are notorious for their sky high failure rates. The more recent thin notebooks like the Envy 15 don't even ship with optical drives anymore. As many PC makers found, eliminating the optical drive reduces weight, thickness, and cost and it makes sense seeing how we're using DVDs/Blu-rays less than we used to in the past.

    The reality is we don't pop in hard media onto our laptops as much as we used to. Internet bandwidth speeds are so fast that we can stream movies seamlessly or even download them from online stores. Plus as I mentioned above, most ultraportable notebooks supplement our desktops. They're normally not the ideal replacements.

    If you really need to save desk space, you should consider a desktop replacement or the U30JC.
     
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    Is U33JC released? How thick is it?
     
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    I actually meant saving space while going somewhere. I'm not a big fan of steam or similiar services, and since I will use my next 13 inch laptop for gaming on the go, an internal diskdrive is a must. If you have to carry an external drive with you, it makes your system less portable IMO (its like those people who buy a tiny nebtook for school, and then bring tons of accesoires with it like keyboards, mouses, external harddrives, earplugs, etc).

    I dunno, maybe i'm just too old fashioned, but I like my machine to be compact/portable and complete, even more so since everything electronic in my house doesn't seem to last long (2 desktops including the screens got friend, and this laptop is also showing signs of premature death), there's a big change my next asus will be the only pc in the house soon.
     
  17. p0int

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    You are correct. I just looked up the U33JC and it seems its everything i described, this will probably be my UL30JT replacement if the UL30JT doesnt come out.
     
  18. sn_85

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    I have a x61 tablet that doesn't have a optical drive so I had to purchase an external one. I've had it for about 1 1/2 years and I haven't used the external drive in like a year and probably only used it like twice the whole time. I think you're making carrying the external drive with you more than it needs to be. Three things. First, not everyone needs to carry the drive every day. Second, external drives are slim so it's not that much more to carry around. Third, you don't always need to use steam for games but you can purchase programs/games at online stores. Just dl it and save your key, easy. Anything else you can just use a bootable flash drive to install windows or something.

    It your preference so if you need an ODD then get one. I thought it was a big deal at first when my x61 didn't have a disc drive and now I don't see a need for one. You find your ways around it and it's much easier just to keep things saved on my hard drive instead of having discs laying all around.
     
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    So GenTech is expecting the UL30JT around the first week of May? And I'm assuming he meant the U30JC, not U30JT, will be released this week, right?

    Honestly, I would be fine if the UL30JT had something like an i5-430m and could pull around 6-8 hours like the U30JC. The extra processing power would be nice, I just worry about heat which the UL30VT seems to be so good about due to the SU7300.

    Just give me something with optimus, 6+ hours real world battery life, the form factor of the UL30, sub $950, and a release date before June and I will be haaappyyy. Is that asking too much? :p
     
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    If you want a disc drive, then get the 14" version, or get a Vaio Z.

    I personally have very little use for a disc drive these days. Huge waste of space, I'd rather put another platter drive in it.
     
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    Disc drives to put it simply are quickly becoming an artifact of the past. People today just aren't as interested in going to B&M stores to buy or borrow hard disc media as they once were. Everything's available by streaming or download. With hard drive and flash prices dropping like flies, it makes little sense to attach so much significance to a hard disc media player. A lot of movie downloads can be purchased on Amazon and I believe iTunes store as well.


    I've always personally hated DVDs the same way Steve Jobs hates Flash and I doubt I'll take a liking to Blu-Ray discs. The burn success rates for movies and mp3s in my most distant memory were always unreliably low. A lot of the DVDs tended to vary too much in quality. Often times you'd have one brand name DVD seller with near perfect quality that after a few years would start outsourcing their DVD production to some third party seller with shoddy quality control. Plus let's not forget the way DVDs get scratched up easily and even without scratches often skip in the middle of scenes!


    That's why I say "Good riddance!" to disc media. I plan to buy a 24" monitor when school starts and I won't be using hard discs to play most of my movies. Most of my movies will either be downloaded and in the rare cases like an imminent 2-pack movie release of Iron Man and Iron Man 2, I'll buy both in their blu-ray forms when they get released as a 2-pack deal. I'm a fan of the Iron Man comics, so I'll make an exception.
     
  22. MasterEvilAce

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    DVDs aren't just for movies...

    But I know what you're saying.
    I backup all of my games/movies/music to my hard drive so I don't have to mess with physical media anymore. a 4GB flash drive is big enough to put windows on it and install it to any computer that can boot from USB.. so many uses. I wouldn't use CDs anymore if my car stereo had USB input.
     
  23. zeth006

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    Yeah. I mentioned movies since it's one of the more prominent forms of disc media.

    As for car stereos, who knows? It's a real pity that FM transmitters in my experiences have always been only somewhat reliable.

    But I have to say I've always been curious about iPod docks. Anyone know how they work? Are they like FM transmitters or do the iPods directly play music into the car stereo?
     
  24. Sanmanatoo

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    Sorry for the OT response...But there is no news anywho...

    It usually is a direct line level in to the deck or head unit. There are some other ways as well (splicing) but a direct connection is best. Personally I hate all Ipod/MP3 FM trasmitters as they sound like garbage.
     
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    On another note. I think the reason why these new models are taking so long is that when they were presented at CES they did not exist. They were vaporware. They then send out pretty color pictures with specs. They watch us squirm, discuss, argue, and speak as if we new all the answers. Meanwhile Asus laughs as our frustration intensifies, tearing away at our souls. We squirm some more. The moment they think they have a enough of a following they issue the build order... Now we wait. And wait. Squirm, argue, and wait some more...

    Asus you got me. I am dancing. I'll do a backflip too. Just send the damn computer or release dates. Haven't you had enough? Haven't you seen what we would do for the laptop. Help a poor brother out.*sniffle*
     
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    I guess now it's kind of a race to see whether the UL30JT can come out before the Acer 3820TG. My guess is no, which is a shame, but on the other hand I guess I learned about a potentially better laptop now :). Was very close to ordering a UL30VT and I'm glad I didn't, but it's annoying not knowing whether this laptop even exists anymore.
     
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    It exists, just wont come out until june at the earliest, its explained why a few pages before.
     
  28. a2bucks

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    Right, but June is probably too optimistic. August or September is probably more realistic at this point. The Acer will definitely be out earlier than the VT. It will also be more powerful, but have slightly worse battery life. So, it will all depend on what you are looking for, how much you are willing to pay, and how long you are willing to wait.
     
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    The reason for the delay is because of intel's delay in shipping out their chips.
     
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    Yeah, I know why they've been delayed, but it's just annoying and actually some of the posts on this thread make it sound like Acer is trying to get people to forget about it and buy the U30JC instead, which is silly. It seems like if the Acer still gets around 6-8 hours real world battery life that's still pretty good, and I'd take that for the increased power I guess.
     
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    Again, Acer 3820 competes against Asus U33JC, same CPU, same size, just the graphics are different. These two will likely come out the same time whenever Intel ships these i5/i7 35W CPUs. Personally I will gladly sacrifice performance for Optimus.

    The UL30JT uses the 18W lower power i5/i7 CPUs and will compete with some other unannounced Acer laptop.These will likely arrive after the 35W CPU machines.
     
  32. RealPjotr

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    Bluetooth 2.0. Then you can play from any phone etc to your car stereo and not bother with any docks, cables etc.
     
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    Is there any review on U33JC? Since U33JC doesn't have a dvd rom, i wonder if it can have comparable thickness with the UL30JT.

    I saw on the ASUS world magazine, it weighs only 1.7kg with a 8-cell battery, which is decent, but it is 14-31mm thick, which is even thicker than U30JC with a DVD installed. I wonder if the thickness mentioned in the magazine is true.
     
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    http://forum.notebookreview.com/showthread.php?t=473409
     
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    I don't understand why your all looking for that Optimus. Accpording to the U30 Review on NBR the NVidia GPU seems to consume less power when running idle then the Intel GMA HD. So why automatically switch to the integrated which, according to NBR, uses more power??
     
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    On Monday I went to a local store that has the UL30VT in stock and had the machine on sale last week for $40 off. I asked them to give me last week's cheaper price, and I even brought in a competitor's on-line quote and asked them to price match. They wouldn't do either. The NEXT DAY they lowered the price on the UL30VT to what I asked for.

    But by yesterday I swung back to the 3820TG again so I didn't go back and buy the UL30VT. That's how close I came though.

    Dammit Acer better get their act together and bring this thing to North America. If I see it in the US first I'll probably drive over and buy it there.
     
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    By the way, is the 3820TG supposed to have eSATA or USB 3.0? I forget now.
     
  38. Jayayess1190

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    Neither.

    Acer is not planning a 13.3" with core i5/i7 ulv processors.
     
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    $849, that is the price in the last news that I saw.
     
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    Thanks for both :) do you read the previous post where the price is only $849? i think this price is too low
     
  43. a2bucks

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    That is a pretty good guess of what the price will be in the U.S. once it is out later this year. In other countries it will undoubtedly be more expensive because of taxes, less market competition, etc.

    The specs are virtually the same as the UL30VT; only the i-Core CULV processor is a step above. The VT came out at $850 in the U.S. and since has fallen to $700. I can't see they charging much of a premium over the VT price which could be closer to $650 by that point.
     
  44. luca.azzo

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    and what about GeForce 310M ? it isn't the same card of VT i guess
     
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    Has anyone got a comparision between a...

    Core 2 Duo SU7300 vs. Core i5 520UM...??
     
  47. zeth006

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    There's speculation they COULD offer an i7 upgrade.

    EDIT: Question answered above. :)
     
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    Maybe the delay on the CULV processors may be a blessing in disguise, as it seems Acer and ASUS are finding ways to squeeze more battery life out of the i3 mobile processors. Wouldn't you guys prefer to have a more powerful i3 processor (of course in the same body as UL series) but maybe loose an hour or two in batter life? I would be really happy with something like that. i3 350M, less than 1 inch thick, brushed aluminum body, under 4lbs, nvidia optimus, I am not a gamer so I am sure the310M will be sufficient for me and lets say 10hrs instead of 12hrs :)
    If the U30jc was thiner and lost the optical drive, (or some how managed to keep it and remain under and inch like the UL80VT then I would definitely buy it right away)
    Other things like no USB 3.0 or even e-SATA and the crappy 0.3MP camera still bother me, but I can overlook those if the other stuff is done well.
     
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    ...and that's the U33JC, as posted numerous times in this thread.
     
  50. spawn782

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    And as posted before as well the U33JC is part of the bamboo series which is more expensive series of laptops which come with the bamboo body and not the aluminum body.

    EDIT: Oops the info about the U33JC being part of the bamboo series was posted in the U30JC thread not the UL30JT thread.
     
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