Asus UL30JT

@Bronsky

Ty for your reply, I guess any of the two will to the job. My battery really only lasts like 2 hrs tops. getting at least 8 with the jt will be completely worth the upgrade.

One last question for u guys, do any of u know if circuit city will carry this and if they will be offering the 2 yrs warranty? (unlike BB..sigh..), the thing is i can't order ir online since i don't live in the states and i can't get it delivered to a P.O box either, so i need to go the actual store to get it.

 

Is there anyone that has a pretty firm release date for this? It seems its pretty vaporware at this point since asus announced their current Optimus laptop line up ( http://blogs.zdnet.com/computers/?p=1369), theres no mention whatsoever of this laptop...or did it simply materialized as the UL30Jc with a regular mobile i3 instead of the i7?

Because it seems to me if a ULV Core laptop were to come out anytime soon, it would be the Macbook Air refresh ( http://www.slashgear.com/macbook-air-refresh-delayed-by-ulv-core-i3i5-shortage-2270999/), and Apple would be grabbing every ULV Core cpu that intel can pump out. So it would seem to me if this thing were to come out at all, it would be wayyy later in the year instead of the Q1/Q2 2010 launch everyone initially thought.

 

That's a good point polaris2k3. There are no laptops with this kind of processor yet, nor there is any info about the UV i5-7's benchmark capabilities. So unless ASUS get's to call '1st' before Apple discontinues it's current MacBook Air line (due to upgrade) it's doubful that the UL30Jt will be out before may/july.

 

And just to clarify something.

A = X4500M HD
V = GF210M GS + X4500M HD
T = Turbo33
G = RAM DDR2
S = SSD + Turbo33
J = GF310M +X4500M HD + low voltage processors from the Core i5 i i7.

 

Does anyone know if this will ever be launched in the UK??

Or will we be left out again, or maybe eventually get the VT??

 

The 30jt may be awhile due to the current price of i7 chip, 310m and 640gb HD. Current prices would place this model at least $400 more over current models, when considering the i7, 310m and 640gb drive are all still in the early stage of their cost curves.

Either Asus was a bit quick on the draw showing the JT, or they plan on releasing a more media savvy segment at a very high premium price. My guess is around June.

 

You guys are saying the UL30JT won't be out before May or even July ?!!!!!

We are far away from the month or two after the CES... !!!!

I personally expect it for the CeBIT of Hanovre... well, I hope so ...

The thing is that I'm a student ... with no laptop anymore ( sold my Dell E1505 before it dies ... ) !! I just don't want to spend 900$ on a UL30A-2 or VT equipped with old technologies... The Core i5/7 expected in the upcoming models will be very and worth the wait, but wait until May or even this summer to get the UL30JT is a real joke from Asus ... The market is just waiting for being upgraded !

 

When the VT first came out, it was exclusive to Amazon. As far as distribution this time, your guess is as good as anyone's.

Bronsky

 

Either they will release in April at a high premium price, or the device will be later to lower costs for production. Just a few months makes a HUGE difference in the early cost curve stages.

If released in April, how could it not be several hundred higher than the current model? New tech comes at a high price. When the VT was released, the SU7300, 210M and 500gb HD were already mature for mass production.

i7, 310m and 640gb HD's are not. I would be stunned if this is less than $1,000 if released before June.

 

You're discouraging me ! I'm waiting for it since the CES

On the other hand, the presence of Sony on the market cannot speed up things a little ?

 

FWIW, I couldn't wait for the JT30. So, I just bought the Acer Timeline 1810T, Special (Olympic) Edition - which will replace my current Acer Aspire One 10" netbook that has been entirely satisfactory for the past year.

It's no JT30, but quite an impressive netbook nontheless. This particluar model contains the SU9400 1.4GHz core2duo cpu, 11.6" screen, win7 home premium 64-bit, etc. etc. At approx $750 Cdn (from FutureShop webonly) it'll tide me over until the end of the year or early next when I expect the JL30 to be available with perhaps even more bells and whistles (like USB3.0) than currently envisioned.

But I'll certainly continue to pay close attention to this thread in the meantime.

 

That laptop is also fine, but it has one particular downside. It doesn't have a dedicated gfx chip. I think that for most people that is the deal maker.

 

Bad news on the 30JT. The 310m is apparently just a mainly a product refresh of the 210m. Good news is it should not add extra cost, but the bad news is it will be a serious bottleneck to the i7, for games.

If you are a gamer that wants one, you are better of with the 210, since it is already a bottle neck to the SU7300 at 1.73ghz. That is why the M11x kicks its butt. Same CPU, but MUCH better GPU (335m).

For 3D games the 30vt would be the way to go, but the M11x is still better- if you can get discounts to offset price of M11x.

http://www.notebookcheck.net/NVIDIA-GeForce-310M.22439.0.html

 

lol Rushmore, I think the majority of us knew that already, its a rebadged 210 with 1gb memory rather than 512mb.

But useful news for those who didn't know.

 

I don't game on the PC much (maybe a round or two every month or two on BF2) but everyone says the JT will be able to handle 1080p fluidly. Will it be able to edit 1080i fluildly on Adobe or programs like such?

 

I am the rube, since did not know, but still all good, since I was considering the JT over the M11x, but the M11x will be better for 3D games due to the 335m. Makes things a lot clearer for which to pick

 

lol M11x is definitly great value. but the weight and ugliness ...for anyone that might take the laptop to work (like...in corporate setting) it would be pretty inappropriate.

also regarding heat and fan noise issue for UL30s, is there a problem?

 

I think some of us are forgetting just how new the VT is. I for one don't see a whole lot of point in waiting for the JT which will cost much more and not offer a huge performance boost in most tasks. The VT plays 1080P video like butter, and it should be able to edit 1080i video just fine.

I think for those of us waiting for the JT, the VT would be a more than adequate option. Especially if the JT costs even just $100 more.

At this point I am considering waiting for a sale at Dell and picking up an m11x for pleasure and Vostro v13 for work/travel.

 

I can just imagine the alienhead and stealth fighter features of the M11x in a conference room. Yes, it would be out of place. If you need graphics in a small form factor that would be comfortable in a conference room or boardroom, it looks like the Sony Z is the best of the lot at this point with its I7/GT330M/SSD.

Bronsky

 

If the specs in the initial shown JT plays out, its going to be quite a bit faster than the VT in everything except for gaming. The core i7 is just about 15-20% faster clock per clock than the core2duos, and not only that, the i7 in this even if not in turbo mode, is running at faster clock than the cpu in the VT. I'm just spit balling here, but I would not be surprised if the JT ends up 30-40% faster overall than the current VT.

 

We have Thinkpads as standard issue for work laptops, but locked down, so only portable apps can be ran that are not standard issue- MAME plays great off of a 32gb thumbdrive though . My M11x is for portable 3D game fun

 

Hah, I'm a university student so the alienware's looks won't affect me too much. It would definitely be a good conversation starter. But thing is, it's pretty heavy . But Asus is just taking to long with this thing [and lack of backlit] is really turning me off haha. This time I will go Alienware (first time leaving asus in terms of laptops)
But I'll definitely keep an eye out if they make revisions and i'll potentially then sell my alienware and get the asus.

 

I am with ya 100% man. The JT will be a great laptop, but out of my price range. I am not waiting 3-5 more months to get a laptop I need soon.

The M11X isn't a heavy laptop, its just heavy compared to other 11inch notebooks. It would make a light 14-15 inch notebook, and since you are getting serious performance out of it I say go for it!

 

is there any other laptops out there with similar specs to the ul30jt and is light with no dvd-drive.

I know the alienware m11x is like it, but that thing is heavy and butt ugly. Anything else

 

@xAdonis: I guess it's just that my it's heavier then all my previous laptops at 12 / 10 / 13 inch so... it will just be weird. The heaviest was my 12" asus which was i think 4.1 or 4.2 . M11x is like 4.35 so i mean it's not super heavy but its still the heaviest that i've had but 2nd smallest.

 

The only ones I know of are the Acer Aspire Timeline 1810 and the ASUS UL30-v series.

There is also the Sony Z series - which is awesome, but far costlier - and although it weighs less than 4lbs, it includes a DVD drive, so it doesn't qualify for your consideration.

But I think the reason the UL30JT is so attractive is that nothing else out there has even nearly the same price/performance/portability overall numbers.

 

is the acer any good or not in the same league as the others.

 

Acer makes a good computer. but, the Timeline series 13" is not in the same league as the upcoming UL30JT. Timeline's integrated graphics and lack of a dedicated GPU keeps it from competing in the Asus UL market.

With the Ferrari one, Acer has experimented with an interesting solution to ultralight and thin computers that can handle heavy graphics loads when needed. The Ferrari one comes with an XGP port that permits an external graphics card to be added to the onbaord GPU. Check out this thread to see a Ferrari One hooked up to a Fijitsu Amilo w/ATI HD3680 card playing crysis. At CES, Acer showed a box like the Amilo with an HD 5870 card in it.

http://forum.notebookreview.com/showthread.php?t=454989&page=2

The problem is that the Acer Ferrari One is already obsolete. Why there is not more of this solution I don't know. Imagine a 12" Acer, sporting an I3 or I5 with a decent basic GPU onboard and an HD 5870 in an external housing. NVIDIA has recently anounced that it is interested in exploring this technology, so who knows.

Hmmmmmm. I seem to have gotten a bit off topic.

Bronsky

 

So nothing new on possible release date for JT ?

For those who read French, I've found a performance benchmark comparing Core 2 vs Core i3/i5 (standard voltage edition)

http://www.clubic.com/article-325530-1-intel-core-i3-i5-amd-radeon-hd-5000.html

 

The UL30VT. Identical, just slightly slower and it actually exists.

 

Guess you don't know about the Timelines with switchable graphics that include an ATI 4330.

 

I came to the realization that the 4-8 weeks quoted at CES was some bull. It would have to be announced by now. And the VT is still new, esp the A1.

So I'm deciding between VT or M11x like the poster above. I can deal with the weight and thickness of the m11 but damn it's ugly. I don't know yet... maybe I could put a piece of tape over the alien head? heh

 

As an alternative to the UL30JT that you can have today, I'd say it's almost a toss-up between the ASUS UL30VT and the Acer Aspire Timeline 1810T.

The ASUS has better graphics card and slightly more disk capacity (500gb vs. 400g) but the Acer is about $150 cheaper AND it has a better CPU (SU9400 vs. SU7300).

If price is no object, then the Sony X-series is superior.

Usually when it comes to netbook choices you can pick 2 of the following 3:

1. low price 2. high performance 3. light weight.

With the Acer 1810 or ASUS UL30VT, you can get all 3.

 

Asus has also better battery-life and way better graphic performance.. That is worth the 150 bucks. BUT.. it is no available!

 

Was comparing Acer 1810T to the ASUS ul30vt (which IS available) - not ul30jt.

Also, one other advantage for the acer 1810t over the asus ul30vt is the webcam (1.3mp vs. 0.3mp).

 

Guys any news/updates on when thus laptop is finally coming out...?!?

 

if the sweclockers is anything to go by, then earliest we can see this is april.

Taking it into perspective, Asus has only just gotten out the latest batch of UL30VT-A1s. And theres a slight shortage again already. I don't think they'll be releasing the JT very soon.

Didnt it take the UL80VT like half a year from its announcement before being released?

 

According to an ASUS employee it seems as if we get to see the UL30JT in March (at least in Germany).

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google translation

 

Well... I hope so ... Since some people said the release will be this summer, I was looking for the UL30VT-A1, but you're giving me some hope now !

 

Guess your right - my bad.

 

Will the ul30jt (the one with i5/i7 and dedicated gfx) have an optical drive? I know the ul30vt does not, and the ul80vt does. But, on that pre-order site they list the ul30jt with an optical drive. Is that correct?

 

hah.. I hope it won't have an optical drive.. It is useless heavy piece of crap that dosn't last more than year in most of laptops under 1k$..

 

I know what you were comparing dude.. The fact is that the ul30 VT is NOT available! The sold out the first couple units and now all of the shops are out.. ETA is 5 March.

Or do you know about a shop which has VT in stock?

 

guys the ul30JT will not have an optical drive... this has been said

 

Seriously? There are a ton of X1's available.

http://www.amazon.com/UL30Vt-X1-13-...1?ie=UTF8&s=electronics&qid=1266715730&sr=8-1

 

If such a timeline actually existed, I would jump all over it. The 1810 is an 11 inch with none of the features you are describing. If it exists, please point me to a link. If its seriously $150 less than the Asus with a better processor, I am not sure I can resist.

 

what pre-order site are you talking about?

 

He is talking about the Jc. The JT shouldn't have an optical drive, and isn't available anywhere for preorder or otherwise.

 

He's thinking about the UL30JC which is up for preorder at xotic and gentech

 

what is the ul30vf, I have seen this mentioned a few times on various websites