Asus UL30JT

http://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/produ...T_A1_UL30Vt_A1_Notebook_Computer_Silver_.html

but, they could be fibbing.

 

It must exist or else the words I'm keying in here don't exist because I'm using one to fashion this response.

It's 11.6" and has every single one of the features I described - and more.

See for yourself:

http://www.futureshop.ca/en-CA/prod...spx?path=5a1c2709465e66fee5d945eec02447d0en02

 

A couple more points about this acer timeline 1810.

There are apparently several "different" models of 1810's. The one you want is available in silver only. It's a "special edition OLYMPIC" model, which I believe is the only 1810 model that includes Windows 7 Home Premium 64-bit. The others include W7HP-32bit, I believe.

Also, another advantage over the ASUS UL30VT that I neglected to mention is that it includes bluetooth - which was important to me but perhaps not for others.

 

The UL30VT-X1 actually does include bluetooth, and its only $799. That's only $50 more than the timeline, and with Turbo33 its processor is actually faster. Put that with its significantly faster GPU and I am once again torn...

I thought I had found my answer to this dilemma! The timeline looks like an awesome laptop, its just no VT.

 

What do you mean dilemma? You already decided there and then -

 

Yeah. I was talking about availability of the VT-A1 version. Since the black is ugly and gets fingerprints all over.

 

xoticpc may still have A1's. Might check with em. They got a shipment in the 17th.

 

All US 1810's come with 64-bit, in Canada they have 32-bit.

 

Why are we comparing 1810 with JT/VT? I don't think they are targeted to the same crowd. May be UL20 is closer to 1810 but still not the same.

 

Hi guys, I searched for the UL30JT and landed here! Are there any price speculations yet? And the most important thing for me, will there be a chance of getting a non-glossy display?!

 

~$1,000.. maybe slightly under...

and the JT at CES appeared to have glossy display.

 

Thanks for the quick response!

 

Actually, not exactly.

Turns out we're both wrong.

Looks like ALL 1810's (at least those sold by FutureShop in Canada) now come with w7hp-64bit.

http://www.futureshop.ca/en-CA/prod...spx?path=265e688067976a25e07444334f534a1den02

 

Only because somebody asked what alternative there is to the JT - which is CURRENTLY vapourware.

 

I just wish I could get one Refurb..

I was under the impression that the timeline was a comparable laptop for $150 less, which it really isnt. It isn't 150 less and it isnt really comparable.

I just want dedicated graphics, a CULV Core 2, and epic battery life for less that $750US...is that so much to ask?? Haha.

Edit* I would like to note that there are a ton of Brand New UL30VT-A1's on ebay for the same price as Amazon.

 

Back to the M11x and Ul30VT/JT. I'm a student and I need a new laptop (My ThinkPad is on the verge of collapse). I have a feeling the M11x would not be the most suitable thing for a lecture hall, but at the same time I'm a big Valve gamer (Half Life 2, Counter Strike Source, Team Fortress 2, Left 4 Dead 2, etc.). Will the UL30VT be able to play all of these on full res and med/high settings. I really think that the M11x looks like a slab of granite and just looking at it, it looks really heavy.

 

All the games that you listed should be fine for the 310m which will come along with the UL30JT. The 210m which is included in the VT is pretty much the same as the 310m so you should have no problems. That being said, if you plan on playing more graphically demanding games such as CoD MW2 then the alienware will most certainly be better for you as its leaps and bounds ahead of the 210m/310m

 

Well said... but one thing i'd like to add:

It should play CoD MW2 fine, as shown in this vid:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qCYRO9MvAv0

(UL30VT = same internals at UL80VT)

 

Amazing. I am officially sold on the VT...

Now I just need to decide if the upgrade to an SSD is worth the cash. I am pretty sure the VT with an SSD would SCREAM!

 

Depends on your need, SSDs will definetly become cheaper by the end of this year, but if you want your performance boosts now, go for a high quality SSD, like Intel or OCZ. Lower quality ones will not only have slower speeds, but will degrade a lot faster.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7a6iRlT0_-k

This puts an ssd into a Ul30VT if your interested

 

Here's a vid of CoD MW2 on the UL30VT:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HBuC6ZQVVAo

Looks awesome .

 

This is my last non-JT related question I have, promise. This relates to the JT as it should have a very similar chassy.

Black(x1) or Silver(A1)?

I think the black looks more sleek and expensive, but the Silver won't show fingerprints. Does anyone that has seen these notebooks in person have some input? Fingerprints drive me nuts, but I think the Silver chassy looks cheap in comparison. (from photos)

I know this is a matter of personal preference, but I want opinions! Is $50 worth 1.5 hours of battery and a fingerprint free surface?

 

I would say go with A1. You will likely to get used to the color but you will continue to appreciate extra battery at occasions and not needing to clean every 2 hours.

 

Don't forget you also get another year of warranty with the Silver.

If fingerprints drive you nuts, you should get the Silver.

My only gripe about the A1 is the atheros wireless card and all the problems that people have reported. There are some users who have had no problems at all, but the majority of the board (from what i've read) has had many wireless troubles with atheros cards. (The Black X5 has the intel card)

 

VT-A1 comes with a atheros? i thought it came with intel 5100?

 

I may be wrong since I don't own a VT-A1, but from what i've read (everything on this forum lol), the Silver laptops come with Atheros.

 

Process speed test and ranking to consider...this process is fairly slow hehe

 

has this been posted? found this somewhere that says ASUS announced JT with core i5.

http://translate.google.com/transla...translate.google.co.il&twu=1&client=firefox-a

 

oh noo, my eyes are turning to the n82 now....14" seems just right to me, after all 13.3 was stretching it for my main computer.

 

I was also wondering about this, some sites are saying it will have the core i5 and other the i7, do we know for sure yet?

 

No we don't know yet

I'm still wondering why Asus is so silent regarding the UL30JT release date ...

 

oops, looks like i didn't do my research well enough. But then are games such as Oblivion or Supreme Commander going to fare as well? Given that they take more of a toll on the processor, would we see some lag? I forgot to mention Crysis (anything above med graphics) to as another title which wouldn't fare too well with the VT. But then again, this is no gaming computer and even the 4670m in my computer chokes trying to play it >_<.

Like many have considered, the VT's are still early on in their life cycle and Asus probably wants to milk the line before upgrading it. Obviously we at this forum.notebookreview keep updated though so we know all about Asus's little secrets and for those that can wait, will wait for the upcoming JT ;D

+1 for wait list of the JT xD or the more powerful N82 for that matter.

 

Man... I wish I could wait but looks like it won't get released till mid Summer or maybe June. I need a laptop by the end of April so looks like it's either going to be M11X or the VT.

 

NVIDIA GeForce 310M
NVIDIA GeForce 310M

The Nvidia GeForce 310M is the successor of the G 210M and based on the same GT218 core with very similar clock rates (shader speed +30MHz). Nvidia states that the raw performance is 73 Gigaflops compared to the 72 Gigaflops of the G210M. Therefore, the 310M is an entry level dedicated graphics card for small laptops.

The performance of the 310M is similar to the GeForce G 210M and therefore located in the entry level class. Modern 3D games like COD Modern Warfare 2 run only in low details and resolutions fluently. Some demanding games like NFS Shift or GTA4 wont run fluently at all. Less demanding games like SIMS 3 run in medium details and resolutions fluently. Therefore, the graphics card can not be recommended for gamers.

The card supports DirectX 10.1 and all the features of the G 210M (as it should be based on the same GT218 core). Therefore PureVideo HD to decode HD videos with the graphics card is supported. The used Video Processor 4 (VP4) is able to fully decode H.264, VC-1, MPEG-2, and also MPEG-4 ASP (DivX or xVID) in hardware to minimize CPU load. MPEG-1 is not supported but can be easily handled by every modern CPU.

As the 310M supports CUDA, DirectX Compute 10.1, and OpenCL, the shaders of the graphics processor can be used for other tasks than rendering images (e.g. faster encoding of videos).

The used GT218 core is manufactured in 40nm and based on the desktop GTX 200 architecture. Therefore, the shaders have been reworked compared to the old GeForce G110M for an improved performance and battery runtime.

http://www.notebookcheck.net/NVIDIA-GeForce-310M.22439.0.html


not good at all.

 

old news fcussel, no one expected this to be a gaming machine. However, CODMW2 will run fine on the standard settings as shown in many reviews of the VT.
It's actually quite a performer given a subpar gpu but I believe when asus OC's the cpu/gpu it does get a nice performance boost.

 

it's actually too slow to me, I was really thinking in using it as my game machine, don't know why they didn't put a 330M?

 

The gpu is boosted as well? I don't recall that being the case. Because there's a difference between asus's Turbo33 and Twin Turbo.

well.. this was never meant to be a gaming laptop. Yes it would be nice to have a 330m or a 335m in it. But then again you could look for something like the N82 then that has been announced which will give an i5 processor + a 335m gt. Only 5.07lbs with a 8 cell battery (no 9 cell compared to JT/VT) but the performance is significantly better on all fronts. Battery life will probably only last about 4-5 though which is still pretty darn good if you asked me.

 

Is there a graphics card somewhere between 310m and 330m in performance?

maybe from ATI?




I was wondering... How does a standard SU7300 or a standard Core i7 640, compare to a normal Core 2 Duo...? like a 3400?

 

well from this laptop, no it has not been anounced. As for other laptops in a completely different class. the 5470 should be a little better than the 310m according to notebookcheck. The next offering that would be better than the 330m and actually closer and slightly better than the 335m gt would be the 5730 radeon. Both of ATI offerings do have lower TDP's than the nvidia counterparts.

As for SU7300 vs i7 640UM vs T3400. The SU7300 should be slower than the t3400 pentium dual core. Likewise the i7-640UM which i have no found benchmark for yet should without turbo boost be slower than the SU7300 given its lower clock rate at 1.06 ghz.

 

the case to me is weight, if it had a 4 cell battery and weight the same as the UL30 then I would be convinced. But 5.07lbs is much more the UL30

 

Maybe not, but Asus mentioned that it was a 33% increase across the board and then mentioned that it was possible for the cpu [su7300] to reach a 77% increase but had a huge hit on battery life. They then concluded to leave the 33% overall performance boost as the best batterylife vs performance to roll out.

 

wait.. turbo boost is Overclocking from the Bios, right?

And would a i7-640 with turbo boost not be more powerful than a completely average dual core like the T3400?

 

My guess would be that the lowest power I7, the 640UM would not be more powerful than all of the Core2Duo's. With a clock speed of 1.20 maxing out at 2.23ghz in turbo mode, I would think that the T9800 or the T9900 would be the more powerful units at the expense of a significant amount of battery power. The I7-640M with a base speed of 2.66ghz and turbo speed of 3.33 would be the more powerful unit than any of the Core2Duos. I think!

Bronsky

 

yes, and its currently unknown as to how the i7-640UM fares because there are no benchmarks for it. Only time will tell.

With turboboost, no one knows what performance the i7-640UM churns out and so i can't answer ;d

 

Why isn't intel launching these core i7 culv chips already...?!? I mean come on man.... We can already see the regular core i7 and i5's out in new laptops...!!! What's the point in making the people who need Culv WAIT...??? What's with the cruelty of making the people who need a ultraportable wait and wait and wait...??? This is not cool man...!!!

 

I totally agree with you

 

I'm starting to get worried about the JT. Let's take Nvidia ION as a precedent. ION was announced January of 2009, released end of summer 2009, and are still miking it because although ION 2 has been announced, no netbook vendor has given an ETA... I'm starting to worry if we will see these JTs by the end of 2nd Quarter.

 

The sad thing is that, after all that wait, the new Ion2 doesn't perform as well as the Original Ion.

http://www.netbooknews.de/13698/ben...e-532g-mit-ion2-zusatzgrafik-enttauscht-noch/

15% Slower than the Ion1. It would suck if the I7-640UM didn't significantly outperform the SU7300 after all the hype and the wait.

Bronsky

 

I'm going to wait until the CeBIT... if we don't get news by mid-March about a release date or pre-ordering, I'm going to consider the UL30VT-A1 to be my next laptop. It makes two months that I don't have a laptop at college... let me tell you it's very hard to work in team on a chemistry lab report without a laptop !

Hope we'll have some news by this time ! Arrandale is simply better than Core 2 on every point... It would be a shame to buy a Core 2 CULV laptop because there's no i7 availability

 

I'm sure the JT will be a better comp, but I just got the X1...and I LOVE IT.