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    Asus UL80JT info

    Discussion in 'Asus' started by atlr, Jan 11, 2010.

  1. zeth006

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    Anyhow, I'm not a fan of the brushed black faux metal look. Too many fingerprints
     
  2. Quatro

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    Are you sure ASUS offers the Turbo33 on the i3-330UM? I'd heard that whatever doesn't have the "Intel Turbo Boost" won't have the Turbo33 either.

    My i3-350M doesn't have it.
     
  3. Chanda Bear

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    I'm pretty sure that it has the same chassis and flexy keyboard of the VT series, plus thin brushed aluminum palmrests. So probably not.

    Quatro: I can't be sure, but since Turbo33 seems to be standard for the UL series, I doubt they would cut it for the UL80JT, since as it stands, it is only a marginal improvement over its predecessor and would be pretty severely crippled without one of the series' trademark features.

    And since the model in question appears to have the exact components available for UL80JTs (which can be found in the May/June magazine, I'm going to assume that the missing "T" at the end means nothing and the laptop will have all the features of the UL80JT line.

    Of course, this is Best Buy we're talking about here :D

    Edit: Now I'm a bit worried. I just found this product brief (warning: pdf) after a bit of Googling and it doesn't mention Turbo33 anywhere. Then again, it doesn't mention Optimus, and it does report the cpu clock speed as 2.13Ghz, as it states on the product's Best Buy page...so maybe they mistook the 330um as the 330m, which is an entirely different animal.

    And to make matters more confusing (and to make this post even longer), my local Best Buy currently lists this as unavailable. I'll call them to see if they still have a display model for me to play around with.
     
  4. Quatro

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    The reason I asked was because I was under the impression that the i3's were locked and not overclockable (hence no ASUS Turbo33) unlike the i5's which are overclockable. If it is the 330UM, instead of the 330M, that would make for a very slow processor at 1.2GHz.

    But I could be wrong. Not unusual.
     
  5. Chanda Bear

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    But the i7 CULV's only operate at 1.06 GHz! :p
     
  6. dunelly

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    i just got back from bestbuy and saw a model
    i3 + nvidia optimus
    no idea on battery life
    i never saw the older ul80 but i didnt see any problems near the palm rest area, very stiff.

    the keyboard did flex a lot though :(
    any ideas on battery life, i think i might pull the trigger
     
  7. Chanda Bear

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    The Best Buy estimate of 5.5 hours will be right on the money. The Best Buy UL80J comes with a 64Wh battery instead of the usual 84Wh one. Also, there's been some speculation that because the model name (UL80J) is missing the T at the end, that there might not be Turbo33. In the unlikely chance that this is true, you might be better off with a UL80VT until other retailers start selling this.
     
  8. dunelly

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    well does all of the ul80vt have the palmrest squeak problem?
    i really like the new matted metal palmrest + separated mouse buttons
     
  9. zeher

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    All right, so I'm currently debating between getting the Ul80j from BestBuy or the Ul80Vt from Amazon (I had to return my HP laptop recently due to a disc drive failure and need a computer asap before I leave on an extended out-of-country trip). After reading through this thread a bit and doing some research, it seems like the Ul80j from BB is slightly faster but has much less battery life. Is this true? I'd probably be willing to give up the slight performance increase for the extended battery life, especially since both computers are about the same price and it doesn't look as if build quality has changed drastically between the two models.

    Thanks :]
     
  10. octalon7

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    XoticPC and Gentechpc also have the UL80JT for preorder some more specs/info on their sites:

    ASUS UL80JT-A1 - XOTIC PC

    Asus UL80JT-A1 14/Core i3-330UM/NV G310M 1GB GDDR3/4GB DDR3/500GB/DVDRW/Win7HP64: GenTech PC Store
     
  11. sleepy35758

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    The Ul80j at Best Buy is still the cheapest though, and so I was wondering if it would be a better idea to buy the model available at Best Buy or to order the Ul80Vt model that is available on Amazon. The BB model has the i3 cpu and 310M GPU (Over the Core 2 Duo/210M from Amazon) but BB rates the Ul80j battery life as just over 5 hours, compared to the Ul80Vt's 10 hours. I was wondering if the BB estimate was accurate, and if so, whether it was just a better idea to go with the Ul80Vt over the Ul80j.
     
  14. Chanda Bear

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    If battery life is very important to you, the UL80VT is the best buy (see what I did there? :p ). The Best Buy UL80J is priced well, but has a smaller capacity battery and only a 1 year limited warranty. Their product page reports incorrect data about the cpu: it's not a full fledged mobile i3, but rather a CULV i3 that is designed to use as little power as possible. It's probably only slightly better than the SU7300 in the UL80VT. There is also speculation that it lacks Turbo33 (since it's a UL80J instead of a UL80J T), which would OC the processor by 33% for better performance. I'd suggest asking around in your local Best Buy about that last part.
     
  15. t90

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    Is it 1 year shop warranty and 2 year company(asus) warranty? Or is it just 1 year shop warranty? I don't know how the warranty system in the US works but here in Europe you always have at least 1 year shop warranty plus al least two years of company warranty.
     
  16. hiero00x

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    Just 1 year shop warranty. You have to get Best Buy's separate warranty to get extended warranty.
     
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    I've been following this thread for a while but today i decided to register so i can share info that i have.
    firstly I currently live in iran and i bought one of these devices one week ago, not for myself but my uncle.
    this unit features a corei5 cpu and windows seven shows it to be around 1.8GHz
    and when i use turbo33 its around 2.4GHz the system speed is very good.
    now for the GPU its a bit tricky as sometimes when i use battery saver it automatically switches to other GPU(intel) but sometimes it doesn't work.
    now for the battery life i didnt have the chance to play with it in full battery but it has a 8cell battery and the unit weights at around 2Kg. i used it for around 5Hrs for surfing with wifi when it had only 30% battery until at 7% it showed me the warning, but it never changed the GPU from Nvidia to intel!
    it has a 500gb HDD and 4gb ddr3 ram.
    Lastly the price was 1,310,00 tomans which would be around 1,200$us since there was only one shop selling it i couldn't compare the price.
    all in all the device is very good for the price, I'm considering to buy one for myself but currently dont have that much money.
    thats all :D
     
  18. hiero00x

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    I've just checked UL80J at Best Buy. CPU is i3 330um at 1.2GHz, but it does support Turbo33 from ASUS. It just doesn't have Intel Turbo Boost (Overclocking CPU when it's running single Thread). Actually, in windows device manager, UL80J recognize itself as UL80JT. I guess T in JT refers to ASUS overclocking(Turbo33) feature.

    As for build quality, I see no indication of squeaking from palm rest. But keyboard flex is still there.

    Finally for battery, Best Buy's UL80J does have lower capacity Battery. Battery life indicator said about 6hr 37min at 97% charge without Turbo33/Wireless and at battery saving mode. Which is shame. It's not bad, but VTs lasts double that.

    It seems like a good buy for those doesn't want to pay extra for Bigger Battery and Warranty.
     
  19. dunelly

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    keyboard flex kills it :\
     
  20. Chanda Bear

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    Well, keep in mind that the UL80VT-X1 has the same battery and warranty. We've just been spoiled by the UL80VT-A1 :p

    6.5 hours is sufficient for me, but I think I'm going to opt for the U35JC in the end. But while on the topic of battery life...the previous UL laptops got 8-9 hours of real world usage, right? The "12 hours" was only possible through leaving the laptop idling all day! So 6.5 isn't too much of a drop.
     
  21. dunelly

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    does the vt-a1 battery fit in the new best buy model
    if so, it wouldnt be too bad of a deal to have 2 batteries for 800+ total
     
  22. KryptoNyte

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    I did a comparison of this laptop, against the Toshiba Satellite M645-S4050, both for sale at Best Buy (the Toshiba may cost a bit more, check your stores).

    http://forum.notebookreview.com/toshiba/492096-toshiba-m645-5.html#post6432428

    Attached here are all the specs I could pull out of the Asus machine with an afternoon of fooling with it. The other referenced post has the same info pulled from the Toshiba.

    If you can deal with a machine that doesn't have a discrete video processor, then maybe keep an eye on the Acer Timeline X series recently released.
     

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  23. Kyle Miller

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    I had this huge long thing typed out but basically it all got deleted , no time at work to retype but had a dell m1730 and want nothing to do with it ever again.

    looking at this computer (the JT)

    this other computer from bestbuy a guy was pushing. NO switchable graphics to integrated which yeilds a ier battery life however all other specs are probably better then the JT
    Best Buy - Samsung Laptop / Intel® Core? i5 Processor / 14" Display / 4GB Memory - Black Aluminum customer reviews - product reviews - read top consumer ratings

    this ACERtimeline X
    Review of Acer Aspire TimelineX 4820TG - Intel Core i5, Review Acer Aspire TimelineX 4820TG - Intel Core i5 - Notebooks - Page 1 of 2

    the new macbook pro 13 inch ... i can get it for 1000 $. ( no HDMI and core 2 componenets me off) Additionally if someone can honostly tell me the non turbo I3's are that much faster then 2.4 core 2s i would like to read about it ( obv the I5's and I7's are great).

    and then that toshiba above may also be in the running.


    looking for light gaming ( 1 or 2 games medium setting ) battery life, portability, durability and bang for buck. At under a grand warrenty is of minimal concern if it lasts anything over 2 years il be happy.


    am i looking at the write options ( the best) any other suggestions? what would yall take?


    sory for the rush and probabnly mispellings but i typed for like 40 min before and registered and then its gone so you know how that goes....
     
  24. ndm

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    I just returned from best buy. After making them bring the ul80j out to put on display, we went through the settings on the computer. It DOES in fact have turbo33. We even turned it off and on to make sure. It also has a sticker on the bottom that lists it as the ul80jt......

    I think this completes the brain work as to whether I should get it or not. I just need to get the new better battery for it to get better battery life.

    so to sum it up....
    the difference between the ul80jt and the ul80jc (sold by BB) is that the jt model has a better battery, and the better ASUS warranty with the asus replacement warranty.
    Also cosmetically....the best buy model has the brushed aluminum look and a right and left mouse pad button setup.



    Visually, I like the best buy model very much........
     
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  25. hiero00x

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    You read Bear's post, but not mine. me sad.

    Anyway, what is this "UL80JC" you speak of. Do you mean U43JC? I'm curious to find out.
     
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  26. Chanda Bear

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    Wait a second..INDEPENDENT RIGHT AND LEFT CLICK?

    I'LL TAKE TEN.

    Also, that makes two people that have confirmed the existence of Turbo33 for the UL80J! If only my local Best Buy could keep these suckers on the shelves...every other day I check, they list them as "unavailable."

    Does anyone know if UL80VT batteries can be used in these new models, and if so, what is a good place to purchase said batteries?
     
  27. ndm

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    Update.....S
    So I went in the best buy near my house and made a discovery....
    It seems as though when ever the laptop is brand new out the box it has the turbo already installed. But when they install the stupid demo software on the laptop it seems to disappear. I noticed this when I visited my best buy where they had one up and running with the stupid demo software.

    So if you get one make sure it is brand new and DO NOT DO THE BEST BUY SOFTWARE UPDATER!!
    Now....someone needs to find out if the ones that have had turbo33 removed can have it reinstalled.
     
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    And yes....independent right and left click....
    [​IMG]
     
  30. Zuzler

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    So, got mine finally :D
    First impressions will be up this evening!
     
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    I just bought the UL80J from Best Buy yesterday with the understanding that it does, in fact, have the Turbo33 mode (because I found the posts here PRIOR to buying it). Now, I can't seem to figure how to turn it on....any help in that regard?

    EDIT: Ok, I was derping around before, so now I figured it out. It's that silly little button at the top left part of the keyboard (above the escape key). So yes, Turbo33 does work for this PC, and as others have noted it does recognize itself as an UL80JT. CPU-Z confirms all of this. So it went from 1.2GHz to 1.6Ghz...woo hoo! Going to run some benchmarks :)
     
  32. Chanda Bear

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    I know this has been asked before, but since you folks actually have the damn thing (and we no longer need to speculate :p ):

    1) How's the build quality? I know the aluminum is thin and just for looks, but I figured I'd ask.
    2) How do the mouse buttons feel? I hope they're better than the single button seesaw that Asus and Acer have been in love with as of late.
    3) If one or both of you could try out a few games and post your average framerate as well as what settings you used, that would be fantastic.
    4) Battery life while surfing the web/listening to music/normal stuff. I figure that Best Buy's estimate of 5.5 hours is right on the money, but if not, I might want to get another battery upon picking one of these babies up.
     
  33. ndm

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    I cannot answer all your questions...but
    The mouse pad area seems nice. I totally like it better than the VT. seems more responsive.
    The aluminum is just for looks, and it looks great in my opinion.

    Last, I plan to go ahead and upgrade the battery either way it goes....only $100 for the top battery and I will have a backup to use.




    BTW......to all....
    Went back to Best buy by my house to see why the turbo33 was gone. After I played around, I decided to restart and BAM!!!! there it was....turbo33 is on.
     
  34. Zuzler

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    Feels good, light and quite cool. Above the esc key there is the main exhaust, it is a bit warm there but nothing to worry about. Besides that, the area around the trackpad is a bit flexible, but I do not notice that wilst typing. Keyboard is very good as well. However, this is my first Notebook, so I do not have any values to compare to. The keyboard is very solid and this mentioned "flex" only appears when you push it down really hard. How can one possibly do this to his Notebook?
    The UL80JT I have here (Germany, via notebooksbilliger.de) has a single button, but I almost did not use them today because of the great trackpad.
    Will keep you updated, do not have any games on it yet.
    Don't have any values yet, but the stock battery had around 20-30% when I started the NB, and it showed about 3 1/2 hours left. I guess this might not be the real value, will check this tomorrow as well.

    First few hours impression: Very good, almost completely silent, cool and a good display which also is bright enough if there is a window with a lot of sun coming through it behind you. However, the vertical (up down) viewing angle is not that good (yes you can work with it), but I'm just saying this because I am used to my Eizo and Dell here at home with IPS panels. So for a TN panel, this is average I think.
     
  35. Chanda Bear

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    I'm going to stop by my local Best Buy after work tomorrow night. The past 2 times I went, they either didn't have it or had not set it up for display yet. Right now, their site tells me that it's not available at my store, but one of their sales associates told me that they receive deliveries on Thursday and Saturday...so fingers crossed!
     
  36. dunelly

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    just ask
    mine has it in stock in the back for a while now. just ask to check their inventory, they'll sell it to you.
     
  37. Chanda Bear

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    Yeah, I just got back. They have them in stock, but not on display (and apparently they've been selling like hotcakes). The guy was nice enough to open the box and show me the laptop, and it looks pretty sweet. There is still the same amount of keyboard flex as on previous models (and even that much more expensive Toshiba Portege), but I totally dig the separate mouse buttons.

    None of the guys there know that the laptop only has a CULV i3. I had to explain to the person helping me that the product page was incorrect and that, while the laptop was very good for the price, it was definitely not packing a full fledged Core i3. Rather, it was only a moderate improvement over the other UL series laptops that they carry.

    I didn't buy it this time, but seeing as how they jacked up the price of the Samsung Q430--another laptop I had my eye on--by $30 in the past week, I should probably buy it within the week! If there aren't any benchmarks or anything by then, I will definitely post as many numbers and figures as possible :p
     
  38. Chanda Bear

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    Apologies for the double post, but after following a lead in this thread, I've found that the UL80JT will be sold by Amazon in the very near future for $899. Yikes. Their prices for that and the UL30JT most likely reflect MSRP, which might explain why GenTech and Xotic have the same units for $30 less.
     
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    Might as well get the Acer 4820TG with the i5-450M Processor and the ATI 5650 for $899 at Micro Center :D . But yeah it seems like the price will come down once the UL80JTs start shipping.
     
  40. Chanda Bear

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    I don't need that much from my laptop :p

    Also, I noticed that the Best Buy UL80J has this odd bar above the keyboard. I didn't get a good look at it in person since I was too busy inspecting the finish/keyboard, but comparing it from pictures taken from a Polish review (in which the UL80JT has no such bar), it seems that the bar has the power button at one end....but I don't remember if there was an ExpressGate button on the other side. Maybe one less thing that Best Buy's version has?

    [​IMG]

    [​IMG]
     
  41. dunelly

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    Well yes, the Acer was my second choice. But when I saw it in front of me, the keyboard was very bad. So I went with the Asus.
    The Acer keyboard is like a flat piece of plastic, you cannot hit the keys correctly. But if you like those keys, go with the Acer. One more note: The higher CPUs inside the Acer are getting VERY hot. So hot it can lead to crashes and reboots.
     
  43. octalon7

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    I looked at the UL80J at BB yesterday, the two button trackpad was pretty bad IMO. While the aluminum lid looked nice, I wasn't all that impressed with construction.
     
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    I am switching from my G51 into a smaller laptop for school so yes please post those benchmarks when you can.
     
  45. dunelly

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    why do all of these light and travel notebooks have terrible build quality
    i want a 14" but they all seem to suck balls
     
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    So, will be see the asus ul80jt with core i5, just like say in the page, remember in CES2010 was launched with core i7. Or only asus make ul80jt with core i3?

    I wait some time or I just buy i3?
     
  47. Chanda Bear

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    What was bad about the touchpad? I didn't get a chance to try it out, since it was a brand new one that a sales associate had just pulled out from a box.
     
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    This is my first post on here but ive been reading this thread for awhile as it seems like the only reliable place for info on the BB UL80J. I in fact bought the UL80J last week in NY. My IT guy said ASUS is the way to go for a solid laptop at a good price, i brought him the computer to add programs and what not. The comp looks and works amazing however, we ran into a huge problem. He was using the wireless connection in our office to make changes and the connection would just drop out of nowhere and not reconnect unless you restarted the comp. It happened 5 times. I have researched and saw a yahoo post that had a similar issue. My IT guy thinks it has something to do with the Artheron Wireless program not working with Windows 7, and not the computer. Nonetheless he told me to bring it back, a new comp shouldnt act like this, and i have no use for a comp without wireless access. I have yet to get a new comp, was thinking about the ASUS ul80vt. Anyone else experience this issue?
     
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    Same complaints as the VT series trackpads had mainly. I didn't really like the buttons in particular. Not sized right and don't click well, IMO. Although I mainly use external mouse with my laptops, so not a big deal for me. Probalby not going to buy this laptop though.
     
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