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    Asus UL80JT info

    Discussion in 'Asus' started by atlr, Jan 11, 2010.

  1. derpderp

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    First review out : http://www.notebookjournal.de/tests/laptop-review-asus-ul30jt-nkrt-1129

    Too bad the UL30JT and by extension the UL80JT are not what they promised to be. It'll be asus N82JV for me because I am not paying the same price if not higher for :
    + Aluminium finishing (yet the display pannel is still bendable and plastic cheap as in the inside)
    -Lower graphic card (335M on the N82) for the same autonomy . (4h vs 3,5h for N82 at load and max 7h vs 6h with WLAN & 80%brightness)
    -Optimus that is automatically switching.

    This will be N82JV or UL30VT (this one really holds up 10 hours WLAN on, even if its 50% less powerful cpu wise) + and SSD hard drive (that'll make up ten times the loss in CPU power, which is unless you over mghz totally not a deal killer for a mobility laptop).
    Because for the same price you'll get more mobility and way more reactivity. And the processor power gain on such notebooks meant for mobility is of no use either in games or in computing movies (few seconds or fps difference).

    The only bad thing about the N82 is the ugly brown yet pleasant to touch gummy finish. Man the PL80JT looked good in its black aluminium finishing (where else do you find black aluminium laptops seriously ?). I'll probably wait a review of the PL and 80 series, maybe I can hope the autonomy isn't the same (it has been seen on different series before like 30vt and 30jc having a huge gap of difference on several points.) And maybe the slightly bigger frame can make up for the display pannel bending.

    tl:dr
    Display lid doesnt seem solid & JT are 7hours with WLAN on maybe 10hours with everything off. Performances are good but not good enough to question the alternative of a VT (lower processor + SSD drive) that'll achieve better boot time, reactivity and perfomances for the same price.
     
  2. Darkfox_Chile

    Darkfox_Chile Notebook Guru

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    So..

    Is better get an UL80VT than a UL80JT?
     
  3. derpderp

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    Well if
    -you don't need the cpu power and need autonomy (VTs are hitting 15 hours in idle max saving vs 10 hours for JTs)
    -if you dont mind switching graphic cards manually (JT does it automatically with the new optimus)
    -if you don't mind the inside of the laptop being glossy or the screen not mat (PL80VT doesnt exists if I remember).
    a UL80VT + a SSD drive would be a better choice because it's price will drop a lot when first i5 laptops of other constructors (who already have i5 stocks) will keep to come out. (80VTs and 80JT are both overall black coloured so esthetically only the PL80JT stands out cause theres some more aluminium inside on the palm rest surface)

    And some people think that onces the JT series graphical driver comes out it will be possible to install it on VT's to use the automatic switch optimus. But that's just a gossip for the moment.

    Also in last news it is said that Intel laptop cpus used in the JT will be delayed (this will potentially will raise prices or delay the JT of a few months)

    I think myself that I'll wait for the first review of a 80JT and if those laptops arn't out at a decent price compared to VTs by the end of june I'll just go for a VT
     
  4. Darkfox_Chile

    Darkfox_Chile Notebook Guru

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    Thanks..

    And do you think asus get out the 80JT with core i7, just like say in CES 2010?

    Or they will came with only core i5?
     
  5. derpderp

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    i7 will come out anyway maybe a few months later
     
  6. BlueI

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    The UL80JT is now available in Germany for 899€. ASUS UL80JT-WX002V black
    I would buy it right now, but not with a glare-display... :mad:
     
  7. rana_kirti

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    guys we need Benchmark for the Core i5 520UM....!!!!
     
  8. Darkfox_Chile

    Darkfox_Chile Notebook Guru

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    I like to see some Benchmark Core i5 vs Core i7 UM
     
  9. Soulsaber

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    They are EXACTLY the same shape/size, just different insides.
     
  10. Darkfox_Chile

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    That not was my question, if is better get de 80vt or the 80JT about her difference in hardware, in other words, Inside.
     
  11. Darkfox_Chile

    Darkfox_Chile Notebook Guru

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    GUYS!

    ASUSTeK Computer Inc.

    Check de info, asus say it will came with I5 520 UM an not the i7 620UM! like we see in videos at ces2010!
     
  12. brianwarming

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    >>>deleted<<<
     
  13. Satchm0

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    I can't believe they're not going to have the i7 in this laptop. This is very disappointing.
     
  14. Darkfox_Chile

    Darkfox_Chile Notebook Guru

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    So, when we can see in stock on amazon?

    And the first U.S review?
     
  15. sleepy35758

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    Wondering same thing because if this doesn't come out in the near future i'm going to pull the trigger on the UL80vt
     
  16. abaddon4180

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    Expect to wait at least another month, maybe longer.
     
  17. Darkfox_Chile

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    @Sleepy I'm thinking the same, just is to much waiting
     
  18. octalon7

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    Envy 14 is looking more feasible considering at least we have a release date. Too bad HP has such horrible reliability stats.
     
  19. powdigger

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    Sleepy and Darkfox,

    I got tired of waiting and bought the UL80VT. Really need to replace my road laptop the runs my accounting and book keeping software. I paid 680.00after a promotional discount 3 weeks ago.(Amazon and J&R) The machine is great and with expected price of the UL80JT to be over 1K I really don't think I am going to get that much more bang for the buck. I mainly word process, account and websurf.

    I have seen reports that the UL version of the icore processors will push production back to late summer early fall with a premium price. That plus the price differential did not make much sense for me to wait.

    BTW, love my new machine.

    late
     
  20. sleepy35758

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    any new updates about release date?
     
  21. octalon7

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    I don't know, but with all the hype the HP Envy 14 is getting, I would have thought there would be more interest in a new 14" model from Asus (but this forum seems to be focused on the 13" models and the bigger gaming laptops). I'd rather have an Asus than the HP, but if nothing is coming through from Asus soon I'm going with the Envy when it comes out.
     
  22. octalon7

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    Checked out both HP and Asus laptops at BB last night. Sure wish Asus would be putting out a new 14" model soon, I much preferred the aesthetics and design of the Asus models vs. HP. However I did note that people complain about the keyboard flex on certain Asus models, but I came to the conclusion that every Asus laptop BB carried had keyboard flex. Suppose it's just something you get used to.
     
  23. Boofhead1234

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    any idea when this is going to be in store in us/aus??
     
  24. VickyVoom

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    Hi, I was googling UL80JT and came across this forum thread.

    I'm a 19 yr-old girl who's about to enter university who has just pre-ordered the 80JT(pre-ordered because it ran out of stock...pretty impressive?) and just read (or at least tried to) all 13 pages before deciding to register to post.

    To tell the truth, i did not research much about laptops in general before getting this because i am rather busy with work and also i know nuts about all these tech stuff (I didn't know what a graphic card was until a few days ago :eek: ) I basically went by friends recommendations and after looking through the specs i thought it was good and decided to go with it.

    I am not going to ask if it's the right choice as i've already paid, but now i just want to know what does the "automatic switchable graphics" mean exactly.. i think i get the gist of it (as gathered from friends, the seller and earlier posts) but can someone explain it to me in layman's terms? I'm not a gamer so does that mean this function is almost useless to me?

    And also are there any other perks i should know about this laptop? (I know about the long batt life, relatively lightweight...) i.e the pros of this laptop compared to others and specifically for me who is a pretty basic laptop user.

    I know i should have asked this before buying it, but it was a 4 day PC fair and if i didn't get it there and then the price would have been 200+ higher. Also, i asked a friend who's a tech rep and she said this was a good choice(a huge assurance for me to get it). I would have asked my friend all these but she's currently overseas and so i thought i'd just ask here since you guys know so much too.

    Any help will be appreciated, many thanks in advance :)
     
  25. Case1

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    The computer has two GPUs. An integrated intel GPU that is used for everyday computing and a more powerful Nvidia GPU for graphic intensive things like gaming. Before Nvidia came out with Optimus, which is responsible for the automatic switching between the two GPUs, you would have to manually tell the computer which GPU you wanted to use. Example, if you were on the go and wanted long battery life you would tell the computer to use the Intel GPU. If you were plugged in and wanted better performance you would likely want the Nvidia GPU. With the auto switching graphics, the computer knows what kind of applications would benefit from the GPU and it will kick in automatically.
    The good thing is that even though you aren't a gamer, many things in the near future will take advantage of the GPU to help out the CPU. For example, Photoshop can now utilize the GPU. Other things such as video encoders can also use the GPU. For more practical use, things like Flash will also use the GPU in the future. This means things like HD YouTube video and Hulu will benefit from the boost the Nvidia GPU will provide. There are other video players that can use the GPU as well to make light work of HD video.
    You may not feel the benefits of the switchable graphics until some of this new stuff becomes more common, but I'd say you have future proofed yourself. If you take care of it, it has enough power to last a basic user many, many years.
    As for perks, it sounds like you already know the big ones.
    Wish I knew how to get my hands on one. What'd it cost you? Where are you?
     
  26. VickyVoom

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    Ahh, thank you so much for replying and being so detailed, it sounds great :)

    I'm in Singapore and original retailing price was SGD1698 but i got mine at SGD1470.... I was one of the rare few that managed to get a discount of so much though. Normal disc price was about SGD1530. The only reason why there were discounts in the first place was because we had our annual PC fair over the weekend.

    It seems like the UL80JT is pretty hot here too.. According to the salesperson, he said that they were all sold out, including the display set and that's why i'm on the pre-order list. Even then the pre-order list apparently had a quota. Anyway, I will probably be getting mine in 6-11 days..hoping it comes earlier though.

    Thanks again btw! :)
     
  27. Teluride

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    Here is the only info I found on a date, might be a European blog from April but I thought they had these at that time.


    Asus UL80JT – Coming later this year in October the Asus UL80JT is slated to bring quite the specifications punch. Asus has released some information on the specifications for this 14-inch notebook. This particular ultra thin from Asus is said to bring an Intel Core i7 640UM/620UM processors which are quad core processors and feature the Turbo Boost feature that allows them to overclock themselves giving you more power whenever you need it. It will also come with 4GB of DDR3 memory, a 640GB hard drive, DVD drive and a Nvidia GeForce G310M GPU.
     
  28. viperabyss

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    The only problem I'm seeing here is the G310M, which is the re-badged G210M. Since Sony, Acer, and Alienware can put at least a GT330M in their 13~14" lineup, why can't ASUS?
     
  29. sleepy35758

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    so release date is October? Because I'm looking to hold off on gettin a new laptop until college but can't wait past August.
     
  30. Zuzler

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    I will buy this next week, will keep you updated with a small review.
     
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    Decided to register since I have the UL80JT. This laptop has everything I need.. for now :) Long battery life, lightweight, relatively cool, and plays the latest games (but not in high settings). I could not wait for N82JV that's why I bought this laptop.

    Playing ANNO1404 and Starcraft II Beta (Medium settings) with this laptop. I had to upgrade my video card driver though. The battery meter indicates long battery life when on power savings mode.
    [​IMG]

    I'm just confused about my CPU-Z details (using High Performance Mode), it shows 2.3Ghz on peak cpu usage, but this laptop is rated 1.86Ghz. Maybe asus has done some overclocking or something, I'm not sure. Here's the image:
    [​IMG]

    Also my Windows Experience Index has a Windows Aero rating of 3.0 which is weird because this laptop is using Intel HD for the discreet graphics card. I expected a higher score in this category, if anyone knows how to boost this score, please let me know... it's dragging my overall score down to 3.0 :(
    [​IMG]

    Overall, I'm satisfied. I understand some of the people'c concern that Asus included only the Nvidia 310m for this laptop which was also my frustration, but then again, I'm just a casual gamer and 310m can play Starcraft II smoothly at medium settings, most of the time I only use this for reading, programming in Java (Web), and surfing the internet.
     
  32. djembe

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    The Windows Experience Index doesn't really mean much. However, that said, you should be able to have it list higher numbers if you set up Optimus so the Nvidia card is in use during the test.

    edit: and in answer to your other question, you are correct - Asus does overclock the processor. They claim the overclock is 33% and while it seems to be slightly less than that from your numbers, it's still fairly close.
     
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    I see, thanks for the info... About using nvidia on the WEI test, I have no idea how to do that in Optimus. It switches automatically, even if I set the preferred video card to 310m in nvidia control panel. Not sure how to set it manually for WEI, please advise me if there is another setting for this. thanks!
     
  34. wrench12

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    mnv, where did you buy it?
     
  35. Teluride

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    Sorry I never linked my earlier post.

    LINK

    "Asus UL80JT – Coming later this year in October the Asus UL80JT is slated to bring quite the specifications punch."
     
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  36. Teluride

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    You really get 9hrs? Does it say that and you never get the listed estimate?

    From some reviews I thought this gets roughly 6hrs and much less under heavy loads.
     
  37. mnv2k2

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    @Teluride, Normally, I get 5-6 hours when I'm using my default mode, which is "entertainment". I get around 3 hours when watching movie's (non HD). I guess the rated 10 hours is if you do nothing or use your laptop for plain reading in max battery savings mode.

    These are just estimates and not actual, I usually wait for 2-4% decrease in battery life before reading the battery meter so that the estimate has normalized a little bit.

    It usually takes me around 4-5 hours before I recharge (around 20-40% left) because I don't want to drain my battery. I read that it's not advisable to drain modern batteries.

    [​IMG]

    @wrench12, in Hong Kong, they released it there 2 weeks ago.

    Anyhow, don't believe that the rated 10 hour battery rating is true for "normal use", but in the end, this laptop will get you through the day, compared to other laptops (like a laptop I previously used, I only get around 2.5 hours max, 1.5 hours normal use, 30minutes heavy use), you will definitely notice the difference with UL80JT.
     
  38. abaddon4180

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    mnv2k2, you removed my last concerns if I really should get this one.
    Review coming up soon :D
     
  40. sleepy35758

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    why does it cost two hundred less from Bestbuy than the u30jt? am is missing something?
     
  41. Chanda Bear

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    I just stumbled across this as well. I think I'm just gonna buy this instead of the UL80VT I've been planning on getting.

    Edit: It has optimus...so it's essentially a U30JC, but bigger and cheaper. For some reason, the battery life is only 5.5 hours compared to the U30JC's 6 or 7.
     
  42. sleepy35758

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    yeah that doesn't make any since to me. It is essentially the same u30jt but a 14 inch screen and 200 dollars less
     
  43. Chanda Bear

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    I read the specs sheet a bit more carefully this time...apparently the UL80J available from Best Buy has a i3 330 um, which is one of the new Core ULV processors and runs at 1.2 GHz. Long story short: this is essentially a slightly upgraded UL80VT, but still not bad at $700. We'll have to wait and see how other retailers will price this, although Best Buy's configurations tend to be cheaper by cutting corners here and there (here, they cut the warranty by a year).
     
  44. rs27

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    Ugh all these model numbers with Asus are confusing me - is this laptop widely available? Anyone know if you can buy it in Canada? I tried Amazon and Best Buy Canada, but had no luck.
     
  45. octalon7

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    Does Asus even have a marketing team? Good grief, there model numbers are beyond confusing and if you go to their website you won't find this model on the USA page, yet it's available at BB?
     
  46. Chanda Bear

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    Asus lost me when they started putting J's and C's in there. The X's and VT's made sense after a while :(

    I think I'll swing by my local Best Buy tomorrow after work to see what has been changed aesthetically and in terms of build quality, if anything. I might wait until BCB returns for Best Buy so I can get a few % off.
     
  47. sleepy35758

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    it doesn't run at 1.2 it runs at 2.1 and its only slighter less than the u30jt version which is 2.2 which still doesn't explain the two hundred dollar price difference.
     
  48. Chanda Bear

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    Well, considering that the i3-330um is probably only slightly better than the SU7300 (Intel claims up to 30% faster/more efficient) and that the 310m and 210m are basically the same thing, I think the price of the UL80J is perfect (for the buyer, anyway). Best Buy also sells the UL50VF with SU7300 and 210m/Optimus for $699.

    Also, the i3-330um does run at 1.2Ghz. Even with Turbo33 it probably only reaches 1.7-1.8Ghz, since there is no Intel Turbo Boost on i3s.
     
  49. dunelly

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    is the build quality better on this model
     
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    Matthies? That you?
     
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