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    Asus Zenbook NX500

    Discussion in 'Asus' started by [-Mac-], Feb 13, 2014.

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    If I am not mistaken, the release date has already been announced back in April at Milan Design Week which is sometime around Christmas time. The pricing was €2000 for the standard configuration. Pretty steep if you ask me. That 4K definitely will drain the battery very quickly.
     
    scorpio187, Jun 2, 2014
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    Here are some more information
    [​IMG]

    GPU is 850M GDDR5 (happy for that, ddr3 would have been a flop)
    CPU is i7 4712HQ...regarding notebookcheck is just slyghtly powerless than 4700HQ/4710HQ (we are talking about 2300 - 3300 MHz instead of 2400 - 3400 MHz of 4700HQ and 2500 - 3500 MHz of 4710HQ;
    the integrated gpu is the same HD4600, but with different voltages: 400 - 1150 MHz vs 400 - 1200 MHz of 4700HQ/4710HQ;
    TDP is 37 W vs 47 W of 4700HQ/4710HQ )

    CPU is haswell so IMHO the news of release date of Christmas 2014 ISN'T RELIABLE... Also, that rumor was an ASSUMPTION of an Italian tech website.

    It's definitely touchscreen. You can see that in the very first videos of NX500 on YouTube.

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    mr satan, Jun 2, 2014
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  4. Derek712

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    I like the dual storage option. This is something that most new laptops seem to be missing lately. I'm really impressed with this laptop. Hopefully the keyboard and trackpad quality is nice. Wonder if it has the subwoofer jack gimmick.

    Edit: I also like the charger connection. My last Zenbook had that - changes colors to indicate if charging is done.
     
    Derek712, Jun 2, 2014
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    Looks awesome. Wish it would come out sooner than September.
     
    mandeep, Jun 2, 2014
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    Loving the design and specs of this notebook. Everything except the glossy screen and the lack of a number pad.
     
    DevdogAZ, Jun 2, 2014
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  8. XxxKing YBxxX

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    This looks like it will be on the Razer tier of premium pricing. Don't think they would offer the 512 GB ssd version for 2000 or less, so I'm likely sticking with the y50 4k...

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    XxxKing YBxxX, Jun 2, 2014
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  9. Derek712

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    Pci-e ssd option is going to be really pricey I bet! Still, it's an option even the top laptops lack.

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    Derek712, Jun 2, 2014
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    Does anybody know if the GX500 has an anti-glare screen?
     
    Banender, Jun 3, 2014
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  11. Derek712

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    I don't think anybody knows anything yet. All the media have are the same two images that tell us very little. We know it will have USB ports though. :)
     
    Derek712, Jun 3, 2014
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    I don't think so from these Images... [​IMG] [​IMG]

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    mr satan, Jun 3, 2014
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  13. Derek712

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    I think I would have a tough time deciding between the NX500 and GX500. The GX500 will probably sacrifice sound quality and I wonder if the second M.2 port is available. I like the dark body better but from my experience, skin oils and fingerprints are much more visible. I certainly like black and red over silver and blue though. One thing is for certain, those WASD keys are atrocious.

    Short video of someone at the show: http://bcove.me/amo26mto
    Sounds like the rep corrected them and said Sept/Oct release date
     
    Derek712, Jun 3, 2014
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  14. threeply

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    Since this supports M.2 I'm assuming it's running the xM97 chipset which also will support Broadwell. But since the CPU is BGA it will need to be updated anyways.

    My 2 cents


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    threeply, Jun 3, 2014
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    I'm not sure anymore but I thought I read the GX500 wouldnt start below 2000$? Maybe they dont offer the 128gb option (which is useless anyway in a notebook this pricey)
     
    Devenox, Jun 3, 2014
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    Derek712, Jun 3, 2014
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  17. XxxKing YBxxX

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    What makes you say the gx500 will sacrifice sound quality? They look to be the same laptop except different graphics cards

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    XxxKing YBxxX, Jun 3, 2014
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  18. Devenox

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    No mentioning of bang & olufsen on the GX500. Just saying, not saying that it will matter because of this. Also speakers seem to been placed lower on the GX500
     
    Devenox, Jun 3, 2014
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  19. Derek712

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    What Devenox said plus they might have more space concerns with better cooling for the 860M. Judging from the size of the grill on the NX500, it looks like they are using either large or multiple speakers. The GX500 only has little grills like all the competition has, so it's probably just a pair of standard speakers.
     
    Derek712, Jun 3, 2014
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  20. Gollum Style

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    So looking at the specs of both, NX500 looks to have touch and the GX500 doesn't. Also correct me if I'm wrong, but isn't the 850 with gddr5 very close to the same card as the 860? ... Too bad the NX500 isn't black and red. :/
     
    Gollum Style, Jun 3, 2014
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  21. XxxKing YBxxX

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    I think the gx500 will be more focused on the gaming aspect hence the 860m over 850m as well as better bang for buck while sacrificing some things not extremely integral perhaps like the speakers. I will probably go with the gx500 if I do go with one of these due to the likely lower price and better GPU. Also, small note but the gx500 has the 4712hq while the nx500 has the 4702 HQ.

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    XxxKing YBxxX, Jun 3, 2014
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  22. Derek712

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    You think the gx500 will be cheaper? I was thinking the other way around.

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    Derek712, Jun 3, 2014
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    The nx500 actually has the i7 4712HQ
    [​IMG]

    We don't know what model of i7 quadcore CPU does the gx500 have...

    Inviato dal mio SM-N9005
     
    mr satan, Jun 3, 2014
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  24. XxxKing YBxxX

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    Well according to the yahoo article a rep said the gx500 will cost 1799 to 1999 while the nx500 I can't remember where I read it but I believe reading it will cost 2000+.

    http://www.hardwarezone.com.sg/m/feature-hands-asus-ultra-slim-rog-gx500-4k-gaming-notebook

    Gx500 also has 4712 hq

    http://ultrabooknews.com/2014/06/03/asus-nx500-with-quad-core-i7-raid-4k-full-specs/

    Here it says nx500 has 4702hq not 4712hq
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    XxxKing YBxxX, Jun 3, 2014
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  25. mr satan

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    I think in Asus they know which CPU they've put in their machines :)

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    mr satan, Jun 3, 2014
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    The difference between a GTX850M and GTX860M is non existing as the both have GDDR5 (in NX and GX).
    It's exactly the same chip but clocked a tad higher. Which can be achieved anyway be OC the 850M
     
    Devenox, Jun 4, 2014
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  27. XxxKing YBxxX

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    I don't know this for sure, but I don't think they have the exact same capabilities. Youre saying that taking the maximum an 860m can be over clocked, the 850m can also reach that point?
    In other words, let's say the 860m starts at a 6 and the 850m starts at a 5. A max oced 860m reaches a 10. Can a max oced 850m also reach a 10? I don't think this is the case.

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    XxxKing YBxxX, Jun 4, 2014
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  28. Derek712

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    He's saying you can probably OC an 850M to be like an 860M. It's certainly possible and has been done in the past with previous generation GPUs. If you check here, you can see they both have the same cores but have different clock speeds. NVIDIA GeForce GTX 850M - NotebookCheck.net Tech

    I'm sure the cooling system will be the limiting factor, but if you repaste and play on a flat surface, it should be possible
     
    Derek712, Jun 4, 2014
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  29. Mark_K

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    Now a days there is no reason to pay more then $1,500 for a laptop.
     
    Mark_K, Jun 4, 2014
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    gx500 spec sheet

    just posting this for anyone who wondered

    Untitled.png
     
    Banender, Jun 4, 2014
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  31. XxxKing YBxxX

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    See, that just saying an 850m can be oced to reach an 860m doesn't mean anything, because what the hell is preventing you from ocing the 860m as well? In fact there is a whole thread on this forum dedicated to just the 860m and the amazing ocing results people have had with it.

    What WOULD matter is taking the speed that the OVERCLOCKED 860m is at, and see if the 850m can reach THOSE speeds while overclocked. THEN you can really say if there truly is no difference between them.

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    XxxKing YBxxX, Jun 4, 2014
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  32. Solandri

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    Usually they test every GPU to see what clock speeds/voltages it can withstand. The ones which can withstand a higher clock get binned as a higher-end component. The ones which can't become the lower-end component. Physically they are identical to each other, the only difference is manufacturing defects and max clocks they can reach in testing. (For that matter, the only difference between something like an 880M and Kepler 860M is usually that several cores had defects and were turned off, along with reducing memory lanes/speeds and lowering clocks.)

    So I'm doubtful you'd be able to get a 850M to clock as high as a 860M. That usually only happens when the manufacturing process is producing so few defects that there's more demand for lower-end components than they're producing. In that case they'll take GPUs which would have been binned as an 860M, and decrease its clock speeds, and badge it as an 850M. In extreme cases, they'll take GPUs or CPUs with fully functional cores and just shut some off (can be done via settings or by physically severing connections) to produce more of the lower-end chips.

    Since Maxwell is a new die, I'm doubtful that's what's going on here. But they're manufacturing it on a very mature and very tested 28nm process, so it certainly is possible.
     
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    Well that's in theory. but not necessarily the truth. Look at the 7970 and the 7970 Ghz edition. Same story here, same chip, just lower clock speeds.
    And guess what, the Ghz edition didnt overclock any better.

    Same goes for GTX 780Ti vs GTX Titan Black

    Anyway when both clocked @ stock frequencies the performance difference is less then 10%...
     
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    What Solandri said is perfectly right. This is the way it always has been and I am surprised that after so many chip generations there are still tech savvy people around who still don't know this.

    Personally I don't think noise would be to much of an issue with the NX500. One reason is the alloy unibody which acts like a giant heatsink and the other is the Maxwell architecture, that produces way less heat compared to similar Kepler GPUs.

    Keeping this in mind might also explain why some competitors are struggling with keeping thermals low on their machines with similar form factor but with plastic chassis or Kepler GPU (or both).
     
    fl4me-on, Jun 4, 2014
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  35. Karamazovmm

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    I have mixed feelings with that display, while on the specs it looks amazing... that 10bit panel... is going to kill the battery life...

    well if the colour stability is good and some other stuff this should be a good notebook for people that want a great display
     
    Karamazovmm, Jun 4, 2014
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  36. Devenox

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    Because it's not always true... you dont have to be a tech savvy to know that, look in the past for examples.

    A mistake you make: maxwell can still produce same amount of heat since it has more transistors on the same area.
    Same goes for CPUs: Ivy bridge CPUs where hotter then their prev gen Sandy bridge e.g.


    @Karamazovmm
    It will drain a lot of the battery, but then again Dell XPS 15 with the same sized battery is doing quite well @3200x1800
     
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  37. Karamazovmm

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    the panel is 10bit... the intel igpu doesn't support that... it will always run on the dgpu

    the panel on the xps is 8bit that the igpu supports
     
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    Heat is not the same thing as temperature.
     
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    Do you really think Asus would put out a notebook that wasn't able to use the integrated GPU and therefore had horrible battery life? I highly doubt that.
     
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  40. Karamazovmm

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    asus notebooks aren't renowned for several things and battery life is in that list.

    and according to anandtech the panel is indeed 10bit
     
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    I'm not disputing whether the panel is 10-bit. I'm only questioning whether Asus would put a 10-bit panel in a laptop without configuring a way for it to use the iGPU when the dGPU is not necessary.
     
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  42. Karamazovmm

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    there is no such thing. 8bit the iGPU will support, higher than that it won't.
     
    Karamazovmm, Jun 4, 2014
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  43. Solandri

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    There's a video of the GX500 which shows an Intel igpu config screen. Lemme try to find it...

    Ah, here we go. 40 seconds into the video:
    http://bcove.me/amo26mto

    Presumably it has the same screen as the NX500.
     
    Solandri, Jun 5, 2014
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    Then its simple the panel ain't 10bit

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    Karamazovmm, Jun 5, 2014
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    No ventilations on the back! I wonder how good that is for the cooling system ?

    Also no words about the ac-adapter, something tells me there will be some heavy throttling issues with this one.... ;)
     
    vayu64, Jun 6, 2014
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  46. Devenox

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    So many machines without ventilation grid, which is extremely ugly anyway. It will cool like so many notebook these days: between the keyboard and the screen there are grills.
    And why should it trottle... the backside tells us the charger will be probably 130W, IF it trottles, then it would have nothing to do with the charger
     
    Devenox, Jun 6, 2014
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    No ventilation! I like that.

    But does it have fans inside?
     
    cltli, Jun 8, 2014
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    Of course it have, i7 and GTX850M...
     
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    this is the laptop i need !!! any word on the possible release?
     
    shizzle, Jun 8, 2014
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    September
    But I dont know if we are talking a worldwide release or USA first
     
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