Asus' first REAL gaming laptops (G1P/G2P); first single spindle since the S5 (S7Fm); Lamborghini Vx1 "Golden Edition"

So who's the punk who cursed me out in their comment under that story? I seriously hope they're not a member over here.

With that said, I certainly would appreciate some support over there. I never forget people who come to my deffense.....

 

'[Thanks, Luis D.]', who's that...? I think his the one who stole ur stuff n post it up to engadget. Instead of crediting u, they credit the thief.

 

Perhaps you can try emailing [email protected] ? I dont know if this is anywhere on their site, but im pretty sure they use it for their contests and stuff, so maybe its worth a try emailing there....

Wait, your kindly supplying pics? lol...
in my eyes, engadget lost all the little credibility it had remaining....

 

Justin, use these forms to contact the engadget editors

They should have given you credits at the very least.

 

RE: palmrest
ah yes, the lid. i forgot about the w3 lid. thanks for clearing that up.

RE: chasses
i neglected to give context. this was just an observation regarding the S7's look and how you said it was a crossbreed between several popular styles, rather than the gaming notebooks. i noticed that most of what asus had been offering lately seemed to come from one general design. an overhead shot of the lids would probably show this the best. all the ensembles (barring the distinctive w1, w2, w3, w5) seem to share the a dual-tone style. the hinge-end of the lid is darker or has a different texture with the hinge-type that the m6 had. similarly dual-toned and textured on the inside. this style carries over to the clunkier models like the z62.

what drew me to asus (other than the intelligent fanbase) was their style distinction between models. each notebook had a personality of its own. this stood out in a crowd of inspirons, pavilions, presarios, vaios and power/mac/ibooks of varying sizes. they still do, but a majority of them look either like a z62 or a z96. i'm itching for an innovation that isn't a flippy webcam or fancy lid or leathery panels.

 

Oh... well everything ASus has done of late is two-tone in one way or another.... I know what you mean, but I think what you're talking about is more like the lid on the S5 is similiar to the lid on the M5/W5/W7/S6/S7... to say the least... But that's really where it stops. There will be similiarities between series - W - V - S - R, what have you...... but that's part of what makes them part of the series. Beyond that, there really isn't much.

 

jeez the logo looks more like a pelican than a "glare" to me.

anyways don't fret about engadet. I don't regularly visit there, but when i see big images of a companies's name (proportable) on the picutes..i usually google proportable + g1p to backcheck references anyways.

also ... poor g2p ..that is rather funny actually and maybe he might re-open his site

 

A pelican... yeah I see that. It's deffinately an eye and eyebrow though... and with the eye shaped like a "G"... it fits as the G series logo... which is clearly is as it's on the notebook, the bag, and the mouse.

BTW Engadget did contact me about this - after I contacted them through one of the links above. They're going to credit me, but said they don't usually follow up on stories originating from a forum post as posters usually give all they know.... I offered them a way to get firsthand information for the future, so hopefully I can help make their Asus news a little more credible in the future.

 

I am seuing
Can i claim it as a trademark if its comon knowledge?

 

I'm assuming the S7Fm doesn't have leather casing right? If so then that would be great because not only it would cut cost down, but I just don't like having leather on my gadgets. What are the dimensions of the S7Fm?

 

Well, the S7 isn't leather... now... But I bet they'll have that option when it's released. I mean I know we don't have the W6 in the states, but that's now being offered with leather as well... I'll tell you right now that it's an aquired taste, but it's really done right on the S6 and although I don't like it on the palm rests (that's why we have the option for just the leather lid), it does work really nice on the lid. It's certainly a "chick thing" - but I dig it too... it's different and screams high end.

 

Asus > Eddie... so you'll probably loose

But still rather funny..

As for the now notebooks..... I like the idea and it should help Asus as a brand.

Thumbs up from me


Insane

 

Well Asus has always been in the enthusiast market... their notebooks just never really were till the W3v - and even that wasn't full blown number one priority is gaming........ so even though Asus's #1 goal is mobility (lightweight and thin), I think they realized they were going to lose that market, but making a series for that market wasn't going to hurt them..... it's not like they're moving their entire line to that market.... so, it can only help.

 

Alright, well let's see how long it takes before these show up all over the web. I apoligize for the blantent watermarking, but you're lucky I didn't put a personal ad infront of them seeking the woman of my dreams... since they're bound to end up all over - why not.

Again, click the images below for a larger version stored on our site... I made the larger ones quite a bit bigger than the ones on the first page.... talk amongst yourselves.

 

I like the lights on the side, but I hope they are adjustable in brightness

 

Notice the glow around the webcam?

I'd be willing to bet they adjust with the backlight of the screen... perhaps there will be a way to completely turn them on seperately, but my guess would be they'd be that bright when the screen is as bright as it is in the photos.... and dimmer, when it gets dimmer..... i'll do a quick PS to show you what I mean.

 

Certainly things of beauty. These pictures seem to make them look very thin. Maybe it'll give the V6J and MBP a run on thinness. I wonder if it's green for nVidia and red for ATI?

 

No... I mean they are thin, but they look thinner because they're a 15.4" and 17"..... look at them compared to say a W2 or W1 photo...... There's no chance they're near V6 range... I see that, but just the fact that there are super limitations on gpu selection if they got that thin...... W1 and W2 thickness is SUPER thin for either of these two and I think that's probably what we'll see.... 1.5" max at the thickest, and probably 1.25 at it's thinnest..

 

They are SUPERIOR in every way. I love the lights. Somehow, I hate the way Dell's XPS lights are, but these ones are GREAT. Now if only their specs were high, then they would probrably be my "DREAM PERFECT LAPTOP"!!!

 

Speculating it's my business..... but when it comes to these, like I said the other day, there are two things that are almost guarenteed....

1. Asus set out and made an entirely seperate series dedicated to GAMING - bar none there's no reason NOT to put the very best and most expensive gpu in it.

2. Because of the look, we already know where they're geared and what market these are for... we already know their competition and since it's a very direct competition - between just a handful of notebooks - it's gotta be as good or better than they are. From pictures we can all say although very different for Asus - it's got Asus' own sense of design and style. However, we can tell from the prototype exactly what they're planning on doing and between the brushed aluminum and carbon fiber and the lighting... Asus' worst fear would be to look tacky... so you've got aluminum from the higher end W and V series.... Asus has proven it's carbon fiber skills - they've worked with the material in an industrial manner for 3 years now and also put out the limited edition W1 carbon where they experimented with exposed / polished CF.. so they can do that.... The lighting is obviously leds, and I almost think Asus would make it even more than a light.... make it functional... like the ambilight feature on the Philips lcd tv's?!! Who knows.. something that involved the lights in the gaming would be tremendous and I wouldn't put it past them.

3. With the two things above... it's not going to be a cheap machine and even if they then made a base cpu, ram, hdd, etc...... it's still going to be in the stratosphere.... so if would lead me to believe that if the systems came out today the configuration could be like: 2gb of ram, a 7200rpm hdd, and a T7600 cpu and still come in under $3k. I'm not sure exactly where that market is, but if any market can support a high dollar figure it would be that one.

 

Looking at the thickness of the G2P makes me wonder if they could put in the 7950GTX or not...

 

I don't know, but it's crystal clear that they're making an obvious attempt crown themselves atop that market and they don't do anything half-assed..... so whatever they can fit - they will.

 

Um...

toshiba p100 with the 7900 gs is that thin.

sager 5670 and xps 1710 are significantly thicker like 1/2 inch.

This is just off the top of my head if someone has a good picture of a sager 5670 to look at next to the g2p please post it so we all can make questionable predictions. ;o)

the g1p is certainly thicker than.... asus f3jm so I feel safe in assuming its not a rehash. vx1 or what have you. No point in trying to sell a lighted version of that with wasd etc Im sure both of these are 7900 level and gtx level machines.

But the toshiba machine is a possibility, one they sell without the gtx. I think though these are both 7950 gtx machines obviously why sell a gaming machine if theres a better one for sale somewhere else? This market is about what is the best for sale.

 

Basically...... although weight will always be important to Asus.... it usually has a much bigger influence than the graphics and on a "gaming" system, they can swap those priorities.. .They're not going to be 10 pounds or anything, but they're not going to be like other lighter Asus 15.4 and 17" systems (ie: 6 and 7.5 pounds).... I think it's safe to say the G1p will probably be 6.75-7 pounds and the G2p will be 8.25-8.5 pounds... I think if they want to have proper cooling for a very high end card and a high end configuration, these particular models can't be super light...... but I hope I'm wrong....

Let's just say that I can't it just being a fancy case to attract gamers.. it's not Asus' MO. The W2 is meant for one person - super high end, but light for it's screen size and super high end build...... the G2p would be similiar, but for a person who places gaming performance above that weight and thickness..

 

Darn it. I was hoping for the perfect laptop. Back to the W3J...again.

 

Sam, are you joking or are you serious? When you say "perfect" - is that a realistic "perfect" - or a utopian "perfect"?

If me saying giving you my opinions on what the weights would be just flushed your dream down the drain.... were you following me from the get go or not? I ask this because the G2p is clearly based on the A7 and that's 9 pounds. It can be the "perfect" laptop - it high end graphics cards simply won't let it be that utopian "perfect" that I think you're looking for.... The reason I feel these systems will really be built for the crazy high end gamer is because for a 17" model, the A7 has a LOT of room and a lot more than the W2...... it allows for superior cooling both in multiple fans and larger heatpipes and raditors....... Another thing that the space MAY allow for would be a dual gpu setup and if that's the case, then the A7 platform not only would be light, but also thin for it's configuration.....

Don't stress it buddy.

 

I'm half joking.

Anyway, what do you speculate the G1P to be, in terms of weight, price and power?

Would it be light enough to carry around not everyday, but on a metro system or to a restaurant, etc.?

 

I think I've thrown my ideas out there... if I mention them again they'll be quoted someplace online on Monday...

I think for a full on gaming system, they'll be light...... but heavy for a professional system.

G1p will probably be Z71v weight... G2p will probably be A7j weight.

Pricing... hummm.. Let's just figure they max them both out, I think it's possible for both to be in the $2,500 - 3,000 range..... the 17" being a couple hundred more than the 15.4" ends up...... but I also think the 17" has room for a much better setup as well.. so I think it won't just be a screen size difference, but just two very different high end systems.

Last but not least... and I really don't think Asus wants to get into this area... but hell, I didn't think they'd want into the gaming arena either.... Compared to the keyboard - it doesn't look possible and I really think it's based off the 17" A7 chassis....... but 19"? I really, really doubt it... I'm just throwing that out there.... No... I take that back, it's not even plausable.

 

So is the G1P light enough to carry around normally? (I don't know the Z71v's weight )

 

With Vista Home Pro and Vista Ultimate integrating Media Centre do you think we'll see media centre features like VIVO, perhaps not a tuner, but maybe a remote control too for these G series? Or would it overlap with the W1 and W2 too much?

I'm not a big fan of the 19" size since they're not as much a laptop as a tabletop. Although if ASUS could figure out how to get it relatively sleek, thin, and light they'd probably win quite a few awards.

 

A true shame that the Lamborghini Still comes with a puny GPU.
Perhaps Nvidia should use the ARM architecture to design a good GPU that fits into such a thin Laptop.

 

Yea, it should been design around a widescreen format too!

 

Yes and no...but it's not meant to be an ultraportable...plus due to the size of the screen and overall...etc. I don't think you'll be bringing it everywhere you go.

A gaming rig "on the go" is kind of an oxymoron...sure you'd use it in the library and maybe in some occasions at a coffee shop, but it's not the type of thing you stick on a crowded table, or an airplane seat tray (plus battery power and gaming don't mix too well).

 

For anyone who didn't follow my explaination of the Lambo Vx1 - here's all you need to know.... The partnership which I know very, very well - is one that has multiple goals......... Lamborghini is going to actually get into the design almost 80-90% - eventually. The Vx1 was a way to take a current laptop that they thought signified more about Lambo than anything else... the svelte design was paramount... Take that and get attention brought to the lambo brand in terms of notebooks and do it on a model that's both proven and good looking........ so reviews would have to be great at worst.. Make it a limited production thing... get lambo dealers involved to get this info out to their car buyers... everything. Then, in the Spring of 07 - unveil the Vx2 - which will be it's own chassis and basically will only have the input of Asus in terms of where things NEED to go.... but Lambo will design everything else and even try to get Asus to move things that they don't think are possible.......... It brings a totally fresh way of thinking to notebook design.

It's THAT model that will be king $H1T if you know what I mean.... This current one is just something to get the name out there while the other one is in development..... and in terms of that current one - it's at it's limit in terms of what they can put in the super slim chassis of the V6.... until the gpus get more efficient anyway... There's just no more room!

 

oh mannn! droools!!!!

but hey hey nothing has the sexy hinge of the w3 so shush!

 

... well I'd agrue that the hinge on the W3 is sexy..... the hinges on the V6 and W2 are sexy as well...... One nice thing about those is that is puts the bottom of the lcd at about keyboard level.... which means a lower overall height of about 1"... The W3 and V6" - although the V6 screen is exactly 1" taller over all.... when they're both open, they're about the same height off the table.

 

That is a good feature of that style of hinge, although personally I always think of it as the 'iBook Hinge' since those are the most prolific models with that style hinge I have seen.

 

Right..... well powerbook.. whatever... Asus does laptops for Apple... that's where it comes from.

Likewise though, the W3 hinge and power button placement was taken from a design they did for Sony on a Vaio a couple years ago... I forget the model exactly, but the notebook doesn't look anything like it, but the hinge certainly comes from it..... That's probably why they're both pretty much the best hinges in the industry... Not only are they different, but they're improvemed upon the original designs to make them make... Asus just has that ability to almost test certain things on ODM work and then improve them after reviews and a year or so of end user comments on other peoples notebooks....

 

those same hinges are on small fujitsu lifebook.

I dont know who invented it Ill assume asus did but other companies do use it.

Its more for very small machines. the w2j is definitely the only large machine that uses it, and the w3j might be the second largest actually.

I have no stress test but you can obviously see it it more durable

 

Yeah, it's funny... no kidding.... fujitsu you say? I'm not even going to get into that...

The W2 and W3 have very different hinges.....

 

I think this is the one I mean. If not it might be one thats actually a year older is a more exact fit.

Its the 10.5 inch model


I think sony has one too and its the same size thats why i describe it as more the ultraportable type of thing. Definitely then the w3j is the largest one with it.



this even looks a lot like the w3j to me actually so if thats what you were talking about asus must have made this

 

now that I think about it, that 12" clevo has that kind of hinge too!

 

No... you guys are looking at it the wrong way....... you're looking at that area and considering it the "hinge"... both those those actually have regular hinges, they're just hidden with the design of that chassis in that area.... I'd have to get out a W3 hinge and show you verses a V6 hinge and then something with what I'd consider regular.... you'd be surprised.. but I think it'll make more sense if I show you what I'm talking about..... tomorrow, if I get a chance.

 

Information was released today that gives us our first "official" ETA on both the G1 and G2.

Both units will come with a T7200 / 2GB DDR2 667 / 160GB 5400rpm SATA HDD / Windows MCE

Unforuntately I have no confirmation of the graphics cards, but if the US model will be released this year, the x1700 in the G2 and the 7700 in the G1 seem probable - again - unfortunately........

ETA is mid December...... Which means of course, it's going to bomb. Yes, there will be a free vista upgrade, but it means it'll be here too late for Christmas and with the actual Vista release right around the corner and Santa Rosa coming in April - I'm not so sure this is going to be the "perfect" system - at least yet.

Now... with an ETA of mid December.... and with that ETA coming today on 11/15 - It's going to be pretty accurate.... I'm going to say we probably won't get them until the week right before New Years if everything goes PERFECT, but we're most likely looking at an early January ETA to customers - at least as of today.

 

Kind of awkward...if its being released so late, shouldn't Asus just delay it and put in Vista?

Asus needs to think over some of the things they do, no offense.

Still, it looks like it'll be a superior model. Big, but slightly slow hard drive though. I would've preferred a 7200 RPM hard drive.

And...I thought the nVidia GeForce 7700 is slightly better than ATi Radeon X1700, so why would the "bigger" machine (G2P) have a weaker GPU?

 

yeah thats some pretty awkward timing. They should try to rush it out so it gets released by Dec 1st instead of the 15th. Either that or release with Vista Home Premium (or better yet Ultimate) in January.

Either way, when will you be taking Pre-orders?

 

Well, if I've said it once - I've said it a thousand times.... They cease to surprise me. They'll be coming over in a limited number, there's no doubt..... It'll attract enough people to get rid of whatever they bring in and that'll create enough buzz for the next model. It's really a win-win.... Those who don't think it's good enough are going to wait anyway.... so all this does is create a buzz about the series.... both good and bad.... with the bad coming from those like myself that believe this particular series should be completely focused on the gamer and no so much on it's price...

We've been taking names since I started this thread, and although the specs and prices have been thrown around the forum, we're not locking anyone in with physical orders yet..... but you're welcome to throw your name in the mix by emailing sales and then, as always, everyone on the list gets first dibs when the product pages goes up.

 

That's not necessarily true. With equally configured configurations a W3J with X1600 can actually get a similar 3DMark05 score to a A8Js with Go 7700. The G2P's X1700 looks to be clocked noticably higher than the W3J's X1600, probably due to the new strained silicon process, so if the G1P were to stick to similar clocks to the A8Js then the G2P would still be "faster" in 3DMark05 at least. The A8Js Go 7700 does noticably better than the W3J X1600 in 3DMark06, but if the G1P does receive A8Js like clocks, then perhaps the high X1700 clock speed will help it catch up.

It may not be the best configuration, but they shouldn't turn out to be too unbalanced in terms of GPUs.

 

Who cares about 3dmarks?! In Gaming forum there's topic with gf7600/x1600 comparison and the real game benches shows that 3dm scores have nothing to say when it's coming to real life performance. X1600=GF7600 so I wouldn't be suprise if X1700=GF7700.
cheers
P.S. Maybe I will have G1 for testing in couple of days so be prepared for tons of pictures and W3j screen/size/performance comparison.

 

The newest chinese review shows the g1p is going to be just like the a8js

The one we need to see stats on is the g2p....