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    Asus' first REAL gaming laptops (G1P/G2P); first single spindle since the S5 (S7Fm); Lamborghini Vx1 "Golden Edition"

    Discussion in 'Asus' started by PROPortable, Oct 17, 2006.

  1. Venturello

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    Would love to see that Mastha!!
     
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    Alright, well here's something official for you...... for better or worse... Two things clearly seen on this are both the carbon fiber palmrests on the G2 and the Asus Direct Messenger LED screen which is pretty slick.

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    Since even with the enlarged version, you're not going to be able to see everything I do, I made this little diagram to better show off some detail:

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    The G1 is most likely coming here with a WSXGA+ screen, while the G2 will most likely get the WXGA+ that's in the W2...... The G2 seems as though it'll basically be a gamier looking W2p, while the G1 will be closer to the real deal that everyone was looking for in a 15.4"....... Perhaps the G2 will seperate itself from the pack in the spring and fit in some higher end gpu and seperate itself from the W2....... As far as 17" models go, I still say the W2 is a better system design and weight wise..... but if that's the case, the G2 has to still be the 2nd on the planet next to it.... So it's still a great unit.
     
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    Great info Justin. I just hope the sidelights can be disabled. I've been looking seriously at buying an Asus for the past few months, and there are always 1 or 2 little things that make each model less than perfect for what I want.
    The G1 looks really close to my ideal laptop right now. While the glowly features on the G1 and G2 may look cool in when showing it off, I would feel they would be distracting and too attention-catching in many public situations. It would be unfortunate if Asus "forgets," or leaves out the ability for the user to disable something like that (other than not using DX9).
     
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    Yeah, it's already known that you can shut them off entirely if you wanted...... but they're very interactive during gaming and so forth. I compare those lights to that of the philips ambilight feature on their lcd tv's.... I'm not sure if this is a philips/LG panel - but it probably is... but regardless.... it's the same sorta feature... kinda... when gaming it probably won't be distracting in a bad way... it's just another way to help immerse you deeper into the game play as it'll flash and bounce with the audio I believe.
     
  8. Jumper

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    Justin, any more info on the S7Fm?? Do you have a more solid weight yet?

    I really felt I needed the optical drive when I got my Z33, but I think my next purchase may be a single spindle of some kind.. I just love the light ones.

    The Thinkpad 701CS which I just picked up (always wanted a butterfly keyboard since I was 9 and they first made them) has a 10.6" screen, but it really isn't that bad size-wise. The 1994 dual scan LCD kind of stinks though... It's a thick old Thinkpad, but the footprint is nice.
     
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    Well, the weight difference between the S5 and M5 (your Z33) 8.5oz (just over half a pound)... So, consider the S7 is the "S5" compared to the S6... which would be more like the "M5".... The S6 comes in at the M5's weight, but it's much smaller and gets a much better battery...... the S7 should then come in at 2.8lbs or slightly lighter....... but will be thinner and have a smaller footprint than the S5. The S5 was a great computer and it's like taking a tablet of paper with you.... nice and light.

    I think we're going to see the S7 tip the scales at under 2.5lbs with a "standard" battery..... and probably 2.8 - but certainly under 3 with a double capacity battery...
     
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    Excellent... Excellent indeed... Of course, by the time I am ready to upgrade they will be up to the S8/S9 :p

    The Z33 is less size/weight then a hardcover engineering textbook, which was my original goal, now to get that down to 'pad of paper' weight and I'll be happy.

    At work I am going to get stuck with one of those Dell Precision Workstation 'notebooks'
     
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    That sounds great as long as it's as good as the Dell WSXGA+ instead of the lackluster one that folks have reported on the A8Js....
     
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    Well Kenyee.... you've comparing apples with hondas here..... First, one is a 14" while the others are 15.4" and 17"... and you have to remember that the A8 is really a high performing "mainstream" notebook....... the G series is hard to compare, but it's of the same build quality and those "hidden" specs of models like the W, V and S series... The screen in the G1 will be that off of the W1 and the G2 will get that off of the W2...... great screens (albeit I'd prefer the a higher res screen on the 17" model).

    If you really want to see what people are saying about screens.... compare everything ever brought about about the W1/Z70 and the W2 - and not models like the A8 or Z96 or basically anything in the A or F series.
     
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    Oh, by the way... I finally got a hands on confirmation today about the S7.

    Although I wanted to put this as a single spindle S6, even though it looks a hell of a lot like the W5..... it is a single spindle W5...... it's got a 12" widescreen instead of an 11" and with the wider bezel and rotating camera - it obviously looks a lot like it as well. There are a couple interesting points that should be made about it though:

    1. it will have a port bar (which is a mobile port replicator instead of a full, leave at home docking station).
    2. it will be 3lbs even with a 3 cell battery
    3. it will be close to 1/4" thinner at 0.94" thick

    Now, I was thinking this would come in at 2.5lbs, but that was win I was thinking of this as an having an 11" screen......For what it's worth, it's 3lbs with a 3 cell battery and the W5 is 4lbs with a 6 cell battery. If the US office was smart, this model should be ordered with a 3 cell only because those picking this over the W5 are picking it for the mobility - and always have the option to get the 6 or 9 cell as options.... but to put say a 6 cell in it standard, it would bump the weight up to 3.5lbs and simply confuse people even more - meaning that it'll simply split sales between the S7 and W5... when the W5's sales are already split between the W7 and S6!
     
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    Im going to figure out the screen on the g1p

    I must have misunderstood the chinese review.

    The screen can only be the lg prism screen thats used in the hel 80.

    There is no such thing as an ips screen of that resolution.
     
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    Hey Justin, I'm up here in the cold country of Canada. When do you think we might be able to see the G1 make its appearance here? Also any reputable places you know of I can buy from?

    Man a sweet set-up would be: C2Duo T7200 / Go 7700 512Mb / WUXGA / 2Gb DDR2 667 / 160 Gb HDD. Sub in a Go 7900 gs for the 7700 in the 15" G1 platform and that would be my dream frag rig! I can only wish.... :cool:

    Cheers
     
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    WUXGA on a 15.4" - are you kidding me? That's horrifically too small! Even the 7900 GS struggles with games on WUXGA.

    Call me a complete noob but today a friend revealed to me that ASUS is a Taiwanese company. Now it makes absolute sense why PCPOP (a Chinese site) got hands on review of the G1!
     
  17. Sam

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    It'll arrive when it arrives in USA. Canada is not as isolated and deserted as you think :D, and most companies, when releasing products in USA, release it simultaneously in Canada.

    And...something interesting you might want to know, that a lot of places in America are snowing, and in Vancouver, Canada, where I live, it hasn't even snowed once, and is pouring rain like crazy.

    MilestonePC.com is a reputable reseller in Toronto. They ship nation-wide.
     
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    Got G1 at tests,comparison pictures with W3 probably tomorow. Detail pictures and benchmarks with lot of games - probably Monday.
    cheers
     
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    Wow. Thanks Mastha - looking forward for it. Could you comment as well finish?
     
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    All I can say right now is that built quality is really good. I only wish to see better hinges. Display is very good with great colors and angles. 7700 OCed to 525/470 (450/400) scores 4998 in 05 which is quite good result I guess. Ok guys, gotta go, girlfriend is much more important than even G1 ;)
    cheers
     
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    Good to hear the new ASUS line up. I'll save my money and buy that power house. Dell inspiron sucks now. I'll still considering which screen should i get 17 or 15.

    if the price range is about 2000$ and under it'll be kick A$$
     
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    you can look at my a8js scores in my signature.

    So you overclocked the core ahead of the ram. That doesnt do anything you need to get the ram into the 490s.

    I did notice some really strange hinges on the g1 they are off center and very thin but wide. I am wondering how they work
     
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    Same thing, stamar.

    Have you noticed that the hinges on both the G1P and the G2P are on the left, and not centered? It kinda bothers me...
     
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    G1 vs W3
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    More pics with benches -> Monday
    enjoy :cool:
     
  25. stamar

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    can you please run the program called everest and tell us the lcd model number used.
     
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    Cmo N154z1-l02
     
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    NICE!

    When/how where you able to purchase the G1?

    I heard the ETA for the G1 in the states is mid-December. Does anyone have any proof or confirmation of this?
     
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    MilestonePC confirmed this in his meeting with the Asus North America Notebook product director. Check out the "what is your question for asus" thread. Whether Asus gets it out on schedule is of course a different story. He also said the G2 would be following in late December. Then the V1 should follow that. Also a G3 will be coming out in the first half of the year with a 7900.
     
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    G3? 17"? Maybe G4: W3 with GF7900 :D and WXGA+ hahaha
     
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    Mid December it is! Also the prices are pretty good at $1799 for the G1 and $1899 for the G2 (seems low for a 17"...) I hope it's accurate because I'll have two weeks off for Christmas break and lots of time for Fragnation.

    http://forum.notebookreview.com/showpost.php?p=1673966&postcount=29

    Look at the link below and check out some of the pics towards the bottom of the page.... The Carbon Fiber looks fake. I don't think it is real. Doesn't have the typical weave pattern on real stuff I've seen. It looks like little circles so it must be plastic. Still a sweet laptop though, she's a beauty! There is a stat saying 33 min battery run time (ouch) but it's not in english.....

    http://images.google.ca/imgres?imgu...S+G1&start=18&ndsp=18&svnum=10&hl=en&lr=&sa=N

    I'm still split between 17" or 15". 17" seems too big for luging around. Also the Go 7700 is just a little better then the X1700. There is a DVI output jack on the G1 picture above. I wonder how good it would look on a 50" plasma?

    Here's a complete newbie question: If you had one 15" notebook and one 17" notebook with the same GPU would that GPU perform better on the smaller screen because there are less pixels to fill?
     
  31. Sam

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    No, RacingNorth. Notebook screen size won't slow down/speed up the graphics processing.

    Wow, the G1P smudges easily.
     
  32. stamar

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    it would perform better on the lower resolution screen in its native resolution.

    In this case the g2 has a lower native resolution even though it has a higher size screen.

    Ive got a feeling the g1p will struggle with oblivian at 1680 x 1050 actually I think that is your actual question.

    For its native resolution the a8js will run games better than either of these machines that is true. Even though it is exactly the same spec as the g1p.

    It also weighs 1 1/2 pounds less but they are both heavy for their size.

    The g1p lcd lid seems to be aluminum because you can see it is screwed in. It has some sort of faux carbon finish.
    The part called the bezel in front might be carbon fiber.

    the g2p chassis top is carbon fiber.
     
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    We actually started taking orders for both G1 and V1 on our USA and Cadadian site now.
     
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    Double check the article it actually states the absolute max batterylife is 3 hours and 33 minutes.

    And yes, technically screens with lower native resolutions will have higher FPS compared to a higher native resolution if you play the game with the same GPU and both screens at its native resolution.

    So stamar's point is correct, however this doesn't mean you can't run a game on a high resolution screen at a lower resolution, thus making the LCD scale downwards. However some will argue that running games, other than native resolution doesn't look so good, but this is really up to the screen in how good it is at scaling.
     
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    Nice! Quick questions:
    Both say DVD Multi and also say DVD Multi lightscribe in the Specs, but only DVDRW in the product headings. Do you know if we are getting lightscribe on either of them in NA or is lightscribe "optional"?

    Bluetooth shows as optional on G1, is Asus gonna leave us disappointed again by not including an inexpensive module on a higher-end laptop in NA?

    Thanks!
     
  36. RacingNorth

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    3 hours 33 minutes is much better then 33 minutes! Thanks for the correction. My mistake.

    OK I'm not so good with computer jargin. Here is a better question:

    I want to play Oblivion at a decent resolution setting, with medium to high graphics. What laptop would run Oblivion the best out of the following: A8Js, G1, G2, or V1? I figure if I can run Oblivion at a decent resolution with medium graphics without being choppy (<20 fps) I can run pretty well everything else I could want. What do you guys think?
    I would also like to buy a 3 year extended full damage coverage warranty but can't find any for ASUS just a regular warranty extension. Acer has super good warrantys. I hope I can find the same for ASUS!

    I don't want to go up to the Go 7900 17" and higher laptops due to budget constraints, but I wat to stay mobile. If I had to spend $3000 I could just buy a 8800GS based desktop and crank Oblivion to max everything.

    One last thing. I've been researching lapptops for sometime now. ASUS has superior products that are very well engineered and have great prices to match. I think ASUS is a great company. Dell lookout!
     
  37. IWroteCode

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    The G1 has bluetooth for sure correct? I remember the a8js as being touted with bluetooth and then never having it.
     
  38. TedJ

    TedJ Asus fan in a can!

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    I'm slapping myself as I type this.

    I've mentioned elsewhere about an Asus presentation I attended a couple of months back (September)... On the way in, I noticed a small table that Asus had set up outside, but didn't have time to look around since I was downstairs drinking in the student lounge.

    I've just found this gallery posted from another attendee, and a couple of those machines look awfully familiar...

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    ****, I goofed up big time on this one... sorry guys. :eek:
     
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    are any parts of either g1 or g2 real carbon fiber ? especially the lid

    can anyone also attest to the quality of those hinges, they seem very thin and delicate
     
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    Question: do we get a free Vista upgrade with the G1P/G2P?

    The G2P has almost everything I want thus far. ATI graphics, WXGA+ resolution, 64-bit Core 2 Duo, awesome design, and can I say wow for the price? I was half expecting it to be $2600 or something nevermind $2175. 2-year warranty is a definite plus (no need to spend more dough on the extended warranty). I'd like it to have a smaller screen than 17" and lighter weight that'll make it easier to lug it around the place, but hey, I'm not complaining. Too bad I totally despise the color scheme of the G1P not to mention the nVIDIA graphics chip I can never get used to (2D always seemed "dull" to me for some reason).

    Any news when these laptops would be widely available? Pre-orders would take most... if not all of the first shipment I imagine.
     
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    Here's the link for the prices.

    http://www.milestonepc.com/canada/index.php?cPath=187_87_8

    "Too bad I totally despise the color scheme of the G1P not to mention the nVIDIA graphics chip I can never get used to (2D always seemed "dull" to me for some reason)."

    What is so bad about the nVIDIA Go 7700? 2D is dull?? what do you mean by this??? I think it has a definite edge over the X1700 forsure. Plus the G1 looks way better in black and green, all up to personal preference though.
     
  42. Sam

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    The first few shipments would probably be in December/January, most likely January because the first shipment would be eaten up by pre-orders or "customer connections" already.

    Ouch...$2000+ CDN for the G1P....
     
  43. RacingNorth

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    I think that the G1 is priced very well for what it's offering. The A8Js has a 14" lower resolution screen with only 1 Gb DDR 667 (G1 had 15" with 2Gb plus 40Gb more on HDD). To add the extra Gb of ram you need to buy the two 1 Gb sticks that would cost around $250. So basically you're paying a slight premium for the bigger lcd size and higer resolution display, plus a few more bells and whistles. Just my point of view.
     
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    Yeah you're right. It all comes down to personal preference. About the 2D, I always found ATI's graphics chips to show a distinct color vibrancy advantage over it's nVIDIA counterparts. I'm not saying it's the fuzzy problem mind you, that was a few gens ago. Call me a fanboy lol, but after owning two systems with nVIDIA graphics (first a desktop with a GeForce 6600 128MB and now a laptop with a GeForce 7200) and being thoroughly unimpressed, I'd rather stick with ATI like the good ol' days. ;)
     
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    ATI = Driver Problems
     
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    the a8js comes with 1 gb 667 ram.

    you would have to buy another 1 gb 667 ram to be 2 gb dual channel. should cost $100
     
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    You're right about the included RAM. The price is $150 though and the two year warranty is voided when upping it.
     
  48. stamar

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    um

    your link to milestone pc says 1 gb 667 ram right 1x 024 right there.

    thats what the system comes with i dont see what youre looking at but its wrong
     
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    Hey Justin, when are you getting the G1 in? Or, when will you start taking pre-orders?
     
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    Does anyone have any idea to the function of the round button between the touchpad keys? Or whether or not it is a button?
     
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