C90p

swoly2k do u mean i have to overclock even with E6850 to correct my ram speeds , are you sure !?

 

WE can't know if it will be 1:1 yet. Look, the C90S is 1:1 but I have a E4500 and it still runs at 533 wich is 4:3

 

i see , hope it's not 1:1 , they have to fix that

c90s ownr's could ask asus about swaping the old mobo , or sell their laptop's b4 c90p is realzed maybe they get 640 + $

 

will Q6600 BE better than E6850 for the same price on c90p

i think 4 cores = more heat = less battary life = little gaind performance / battary

http://xbitlabs.com/articles/cpu/display/core2quad-q6600_8.html ( QXXXX VS EXXXX IN GAMES )

i would go with E6850 it's alredy overkill

wat do u think

 

By more traditional fans, maybe a smaller version of the turbo engine or possibly a factory installed vicious mod to improve air circulation within the laptop thus reducing the need for the turbo engine on weaker cpus. Again, options are cool.

 

and the notebook will be 2 inches thick adnd loose his portability

genious, just google Q6600 VS E6850

 

Quad core is just too hot for a laptop, I know its out there and functional but is it really worth it?? Thats alot of heat to get rid of and how many games/programs do you use that can take advantage of 4 cores?

Id without a doubt if forced to pick a cpu for my desktop get the q6600, but for my laptop I wouldnt even consider it even if it did work properly.

 

It has portability?

And seriously, yes the turbo engine helps out a lot but about the only time I really see it come on full power is when my defective power supply starts acting up. My PSU is a little defective or somehting and cannot power my CPU when overclocking (and sometimes when not oveclocked but playing a game like battlefield 2142) so the battery starts being drained. I don't know how or why but this must produce additional heat which pushes it over the edge and starts the engine up.

A bit back on topic - I just sent an e-mail to AMD inquiring about possible ATI support for the C90 and specifically mentioned the photos of the HD3600 and its similar appearance to the C90's cards. Hopefully they will write back that it is MXM formfactor II (actually I'm hoping they write back at all...) so we may yet see HD3600's in the C90p at least.

 

You got the 90W adapter? You can change it for a 120W you know

They put the fans in the back so the notebook stays the same size as a standard 15.4'' gaming notebook

 

I don't think we have much to worry about. Besides the changes to the Mobo, I think that Asus will leave room for GPU's that can be used on either c90s or c90p. You won't be able to do the quad core, but the most important thing is the gpu overall others. From the pics, it looks like the same layout, just new chipset??? Hopefully the future gpu's are cross compatible with both c90's.

Like someone else mentioned. Sell your barebones and use that and a hundred dollars to port all your goodies to the c90p.

 

c90s was an experiment, c90p maybe improve but still an experiment. If i knew all the issues of the c90s I wouldnt have bought it period. And that is why I dont recommend this notebook to my friends who are replacing their old notebooks for new ones. It doesnt matter the price if it give too much trouble for what is worth. Have you guys seen all the post, issues, and some installation guide around for the c90s??? it is like people believe they found the formula to a better installation and nope, people havent found nothing because depend purely on you configuration, ram brand, cpu speed, OS and so on. It is a complicated notebook not worthy the the time you lose if your work depends on your notebook performance (and I dont mean gaming but a much lower level and still not worhty the time expending) we can go around talking and debating but numbers speak for themselve...

 

not being able to put an 8800m in the c90p is a joke...what a letdown!
thanks for making us wait for nothing asus

 

I know what you are saying, but is it really any different from building a PC. I have had some mobo's that work with corsair and some that don't and some that I had to do a bios flash before it would even boot from sata. With customization comes compatibility issues. I built mine and it's perfectly fine. 3GB of memory and no issues on booting on power or battery.

 

well i guess we're at the waiting game again... and I agree with some that if we were told or made known of its issues, a lot of us might have chosen more stable laptops ( like the g1s... ) Since it turned out it wasnt too upgradeable at all. If we even consider the cost of shipping back, the number of components that we have to buy to ensure compatibility, and other issues, the c90 actually costed more than buying similar laptops which were more stable. Simply put, trying to sell an " upgradeable laptop "
which turned out to be not too upgradeable, and releasing a product which was not tested and using us as experiments could be considered TRICKING CONSUMERS.

And now we have hopes again for the c90p.. for the GPU's ( 9600's, 8700M etc. ), i do not want to be pessimistic, but with ASUS track record, dont count on it. What we have now may already be as good as it gets.

 

i did , didn't you see the link in my previos post , i was just taking opinions lol

 

8800 would eat battary in 13 min , i think the currnt 8800 big board big core ...

but maybe in the future they will make a smaller core , smaller board , more cores (maybe qoad )and an option not to run them all ( if 2 or 4 cores ) to avoid heat and losing battary life ... i dunno but feel ati will surprise us

 

The problem isn't battery it's->

HEAT & SIZE OF THE CARD.

I really wonder how can someone hope for that...

The C90S is MXM-II, so it's to put MID-RANGE gpus in. I think that was clear enough from the beggining

 

But you can't say Asus did not do their job because you dreamed of a 8800 <-<


EDIT: My post goes after genius' one.

That 832GB drive is gonna cost over $1000 lol

 

thanks to techonology u can always hope >>>

qt : I love technology! You can always count on it to get bigger / better / faster

i read once about (832 gb ) ssd for notebooks u may want to check that here http://www.engadget.com/2008/01/04/bitmicro-introduces-832gb-ssd-for-ces-2008/ , so .....




belive me nVIDIA can make a suprior video card for 15.4 , but if they do that
they will lost trelionz (h/w u spell that ) of dollars $$$

can u imagne 800 gb ssd !!!!!

 

100% agree, but I can say Asus didn't do there job if they don't offer some kind of an upgrade and no I don't consider DDR3 8600M an upgrade ($200 dollars for 15% performance increase with little to no driver support).

 

ma8 jcms , 832 ssd will cost more than 1000 $ !!!

are u kiding man the 128 gb alredy cost 3000 $ :b

i guss 832 gb ssd will cost over 100,000,0000 $

 

Yeah I know but what card did you hope seeing before the next gen is released?
I emailed the tech supprot 2 days ago and the guy awnsered that it didn't the final spec but if the C90P is MXM-II (he doesn't know if its 2 or 3), all the cards will be cross-compatible. On the pics it looks to be same size as the c90s so...

 

Right now I'd just like to see a better all copper HSF for the current 8600GT DDR3.

 

I wonder if they just could sell me the mobo of the c90p so I swapped with mine c90s. Ive alrealdy put apart and toguether my c90s and it is not complicated at all (compare to gateway & HP) it is pretty much straightforward....How much could cost the c90p motherboard plus maybe new fans of the new model??

 

does anyone know when the c90p will be available?

Ty!

 

Did you take any pictures when you took your C90S apart?

 

Well, the C90S is $800 for screen,box & mobo. So the mobo would be arround $400. I remember hearing that when a laptop's motherboard dies, it's almost cheaper to buy a new computer...

 

Yep...I would be more so interested in that copper cooler...oh would I. Seeing as it's still MXM II, there is no real point in moving to it. The chipset and CPU support are infinitely better, but, it doesn't justify a 8700m GT? Sorry, just isn't worth it to me.

 

I didnt by the time..it was when I screwed up the BIOS of my c90s and became paper brick. My friends and I were trying to use another chip to install the bios again so we dismantled the c90s but it was a deicate manner to do cause implis soldering and werent sure how many layers would have to work with so we asked ASUS for some kind of solution & wait for the info to know if there was a way to recover the notebook from a bad flash...ASUS replied by sending the instructions how to recover from a bad flash which I posted here for future reference. I was more worried about the bios trouble than taking pictures m8...but next weekend I might do it again for another experiment so I promise I would have then next time...

To JCMS, about buying a complete equipment (for laptops) than the mobo itself, that was the case before, but I think now is worthy to get the mobo for some laptops. C90S it is not that dificult to take apart like a gateway, HP, or COmpaq...and my question stand, I hope could be a way to get the new mobo for $400 than buying the whole combo again, video upgrade I can do later when new ones come out...

 

Heck, if I could get a new mobo for $400, think of the future upgradeability factor of the notebook! All the way from current gen Core 2 Duo to this next gen. This will mean, by the time this new chips are dropping in price or we are upgrading our desktop we could drop them into our notebooks and still have powerful notebooks in comparison. That is unless there is a radical leap in technology, then will just have wasted $400 dollars.

At this point and time I'm with everyone else for a better heatsink and a new video card.

 

We should still be able to use that 8700, or any future card it gets in the c90s.... The Asus guy told me the C90S' cards would be compatible so why not in the other sense?

 

Oh....OH. I revoke my statement.

 

Ill say it again, if the 8700M GT fits in the c90s I will be very satisfied with the c90s! Dont forget MXM-III cards are only a few mm bigger than MXM-II...they may look the same size but might not be.

 

I just ordered a GDDR3 8600m GT to play with hehe.

 

The all coper heat sink should work well with that mod I did, pretty much will be like having a whole other heat fin area. They should sell the 8700 and the new heat sink together as a package for C90S owners. Im sure the 8700 runs very hot and needs the better cooling. Then again maybe it doesnt and the all copper just looks good but doesnt really add to cooling much at all.

We have to wait for some hands on test.

 

im running my card at 634 core / 1200 shader/ 850 memory... the highest its every gotten was 93 celcius... Thats just as fast as the 8700m gt... its a bit faster. I use the ddr3 card. I used the new drivers but they didnt let me overclock. So I did what you told me. I overclock the card using bios and now im getting well over 5000+ in 3dmark06. Im pretty sure it has to do with the 502 bios because the fans seem kick in more frequent.

 

Crap, that is very low.

Mine running at 530 (rivatuner shows the core speed speed about 38 mhz higher than the bios)/1330/520 would hit 110 sometimes. But it really depends on its mood. Sometime it's 93, 96, 100, 102, 105 or it will never stop heating, it's not even related to the fans since they always run at the same speed

 

try 502 beta bios im telling you the fans kick in more

 

Got a link klok99ah? I'm willing to try it out if it proves to kick the fans in more.

Forgot 502B...I'm having problems I've never seen. My temps are 10 ~ 15C higher, my fan is going crazy and RMClock is saying my CPU is starting to throttle.

 

http://forum.notebookreview.com/showthread.php?t=141730&highlight=502

thats the link to the original post. 502 is the beta version. Try it out.

 

Off topic but has there been talk about a C80P?

 

It seems that for some reason you can not completly go back to the old bios. I already tried since with the new ones (801 & 901) my fan seems to work less and get more heat on my gpu

 

why does this only work for me.... whats so diffrent. I seem to have perfect cooling. I even play using turbo gear game mode with those clock settings and not one problem... whats going on?

 

i think mine also has the perfect cooling i have never regreted it...thank god

anyway...seems that it really will be a 8800M in MXM II for C90s
http://forum.notebookreview.com/showthread.php?t=134519&page=56

 

Until I here from Ken, I'm skeptical. If the DDR3 8600M GT are being discontinued due to heat issues, when what can they hope to do with a die shrink of what could be the hottest video card (pun) of this series.

 

if it is, it could be the GTS version...this'll be interesting to see how it plays out. might not sell mine for a while now

 

Yeah, the gts version is possible. Interesting news, I'll try calling Asus up later.

 

GTS or not the 8800 in MXM II will KICK ASS!

 

I just put in email with asus. I told them that the ddr3 8600m gt has overheating issues and i heard it was discontinued. I asked if i send in my 8600 ddr3 if i can get a deal on a 8800m. Im waiting on reply. Wish me luck

 

Considering that they are just working on the C90P over in Taiwan it maybe just a little while before we see the 8800M if ever.