Eee PC 1215n Performance

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Cheers.

 

Thanks, much appreciated

And I guess just as a data point for this thread, I was able to fix my font problem, had to manually reinstall all the fonts off of a Windows 7 USB installer I made...just in case anyone else comes across a similar problem, that was the only way I was able to fix it

 

For some reason, when I do the OC'ing of the CPU and downloading the app for the HDD, I cannot restart my computer without it not even turning off...and when I force shut it down and turn it back on, it won't boot up to the bios menu...the power light it on, but with no HDD activity, any help?

 

Take the battery out and hold the power button down for 30 seconds. This will perform a power drain on the system. Then replace the battery and boot as normal. This happened a couple of times to me and that's how i fixed it.

 

Well when I do that, it will boot up alright, but the problem persists when I want to restart the computer, I have to keep taking the battery out. Was this a permanent fix for you, meaning you could restart the computer normally with SETfsb on and the HDD app on after the power drain?

 

No it wasn't a permanant fix. The issue arises as a result of using setfsb and overclocking to the point of crashing, at least it was for me. I only overclock now when i need it and dont usually push it to the brink so i dont encounter this issue anymore really.

 

Hey oogmar, any tips beyond what you have on the first post for OCing with Nvidia System Tools? I cant seem to get it (or MSI afterburner) to work

 

I read your other post and u say that even an overclock of 10mhz makes the gpu when taxed default to 400/800?
If that's definately the case then i can only summize that because you have the the lesser model gpu (8 cores vs the 16 in the 1215n) that also they may have lowered the power limits of the device - thus limiting it to stock clocks. Although i find it hard to believe that they would do this as accurate as to 10mhz.

My advice would be to just try a 1 mhz increase on the core only, see if it takes. If it doesn't then i'd try another driver.

 

Any of the AO gamers here found a solution for the acceleration problem yet?

 

Ive got AO playable at the moment but no where near where it should be. im gonna attempt to run the game from a ramdisk when i get an extra 2gig of memeory, ill let u know howit goes but no luck so far with the gpu.

 

hello,
got an regular 1215n with the newest nvidia driver. want to buy gta4. is it playable on it?
thanks and best

 

I havent tried it myself but heres a video of the performance. "Playable" depends entirely on you own definition. See what you think
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WVTuJWumqMY

 

Thanks Ill try that

One more problem though, I upgraded to Home Premium today and now it will only run in ION mode, I uninstalled the graphics switch program (is that why?) ive gone to the nvidia control panel and theres no option to switch. I also went to device manager and it only shows the ION GPU =/ I tried installing the latest GMA drivers off of intels site but it says my machine doesnt meet the requirements...asus driver site doesnt have anything

Edit: Uninstalled all nvidia and intel drivers and now while attemping to reinstall intel still doesnt work even tried the 1015PEM and no go...

Edit2: seems I do need the graphicsswither installed for it to recognize both at the same time...I have it set to optimus (in the graphics switcher, i cant find it in nvidia control panel) but cant tell if its working...

Final Edit: So I ended up doing a fresh install of Home Premium (but this time of 64bit) Everything seems good now however my idle temps are way up, everything I know is within limits but my DIMM temp is 56C that ok?

 

So how much RAM does it support max? Can I install 4+4 GB in it?

 

did anybody try gta4 on the regular 1215n with newest nvidia driver himself?
thanks and best

 

I played it with some old drivers and it played horribly. I kinda doubt these new drivers will make much of a difference.

 

I just did. I have the steam version of GTA, but I still managed to apply the -norestrictions switch by creating and logging into a Rockstar Social club. (as that's the only way you can do it). And believe me, you're gonna need that switch otherwise you will only have like 86MB of memory to use, resulting in 800x600 mode and horrible things like that.

It was horrible. The loading took forever and then in the game I was missing most of the textures. Framerate was between 20-30 on 1366x768 but that is all irrelevant when you can't see the buildings around you, now is it?

Don't buy GTA IV. It can't be played on the 1215N. Though to be fair, I was struggling with it on my previous computer which was running on nVidia GTX295 (partially due to no SLI support in GTA IV, but still...)

I never expected the laptop to be able to play GTA IV.


ON THE OTHER HAND, I expected it to play League of Legends. Some people here have stated that it plays LoL just fine - I disagree. You get terrible FPS drops when in combat, and even out of it, the framerate seems to be around 17-30FPS. I also encountered multiple problems with several drivers where I would be missing letters in the spell descriptions, or for example the store at the summoner platform would have no graphics at all (e.g. I could not buy anything). NOT TO MENTION that it takes FOREVERRRRRRRRRRRRRR to load the game. The game itself is to blame for this though, as I noticed it takes about 40-60% of my main PC's CPU, and that's a Core i7 920 with 8 threads running at 3.6GHz.

Bleh. Half Life 2 plays beautifully though. 30-50 FPS on high details and native resolution, though no AA. Finally a game worthy of playing.

Still though, I am kind of disappointed.

 

Hello 1215N-Users.
I have bought my 1215N just a week ago. It has win 7 32 bit version an 2 gb ram. I still have the stockdrivers, the nvidia driver is the 257.43 version.

I'm playing Metin2 - that is a MMORPG.
The recommended system requirements are:
OS - Win XP, Win 2000, Win Vista, Win 7
CPU - Pentium 4 1.8GHz
Memory- 1 GB
HDD- 2 GB
Graphics card- more than 64MB video RAM

So.... it should run perfectly with more than 30 fps at all all times!! But it doesn't!!
When I'm at the crowded market place with my character I only have 5 fps! so almost unplayable.
The capacity utilization of the:
Cpu is at 30%
Ram is at about 50 - 60%
Gpu (ION) is at 30%.

Why doesn't the system utilize its full potential to get more FPS?!
or why does it run so bad at all???
This netbook should perform soooo much better at this game.

What could I do to increase the performance of Metin2 on my Asus??
Please help me guys.
I would really appreciate some helpful comments. Thanks!

 

It depends on how you define playable, if your definition of playable where it installs and runs at choppy frame rates of less than 15 fps then it is playable. To me playable is at a smooth frame rate of 30 fps or more and doesn't dip below that on graphically intense situation.

 

Very frustrating isnt it. i play a mmo called anrchy online which this system should be more than capable of handling but yet it runs very poorly. one thing i notice when playing my mmo is that my cpu goes to 25% as if its maxing out one of th cores (this game will easily maxes one core on max settings when playing on my pc) but that wud suggest this is a quad core which it aint also im unable to get the nvidia to work so that dosnt help

i find very strange behaviour with mmos

try overclocking the to around 2.1 that helps my fps also seens as u got ur ion working with urs, try overclocking that. and update ur ion drivers that can make a big diff

 

First of all thank you,

I overclocked my cpu to 2,2 ghz but that did not make any difference
and when I've overclocked my gpu it goes down to 405 805 405 after a a couple sec of gaming but it didn't help anyways.

So the only thing left to try, is to install the newest nvidia driver..
Is there anything else that i could try?

And yes it is frustrating! I paid 479€ for that netbook because I wanted one that I can play with but the performance just sucks, at least until now...

Btw: Excuse my spelling and grammar mistakes, I'm german.

 

Yea start with trying some new drivers, if that dosnt help pick the driver which works best for you and then try get to the bottom of the overclocking. i went as far as upgrading my memory to 4gig to run the game from a ram drive which doers improve performance but sumthing is still not right.

It wouldnt be fustrating if the system shouldnt be able to handle these games as it is a netbook after all. but when your able to play games like black ops and pes2011 you would think a 5 year old game would work. very good netbook but just have to wait for nvidia to pull there finger out,as with all new tech.

 

DRIVER RELATED PROBLEMS?

Hi guys i have started a thread on the nvidia forum relating specifically to the 1215n in an effort to get some attention to the problems the system has.
If everyone who has nvidia driver related issues, be it 3d game performance, video performance, optimus switching, graphical artifacts, flickering textures etc. please post it in this new thread. Nvidia support personnel regularly monitor the support forum and i know if we all submit the problems we have discussed here then they might be able to do something about it.

I have posted my personal experience with the various driver versions in the first post, detailing a few games as examples. If you could do the same and report any issues with any games or applications you are facing then this would be of great help.

Heres the link to the topic on nvidia's forum:

Asus 1215n ION driver issues - NVIDIA Forums

Cmon guys lets get this machine running like it should!!

 

I don't have a 1215n anymore (Loving the m11x for the same price) but just out of curiosity, has anyone else had an issue with the power pin snapping off? I bought mine the week it was released, had the pin break after about a month. A bunch of people over at eeeuser had the same problem. I'm surprised I never saw a thread about this pop up over here though.

 

As with any gamer on the go, one of the major hold-ups I'm having in my first "netbook" purchase is the voice in the back of my head saying: " just buy the tiny alien!!". How portable do you feel the m11x is in comparison to the 1215 onspeed? Also, did you happen to get any side by side comparison shots of the two? TBH, what I realllly want is something in the 10.1" footprint range with either 1280x or 1366x res, SIM card/3G'able, AND the guts to do a little gaming. (which I've no doubt is possible right now, and for an Ok price, if the netbook gods would pull their heads outta their, but.. ) To go back on-topic somewhat, I'm pretty sure I ran into a thread or two here lastnight, (and every other forum), noting the same power pin failure you experienced. Definitely in need of a revision for that alone.

Ooh, and thanks for all the time & effort you've put into the 1215pn/this thread oogamar. If I wind up getting one, I'll no doubt be back here, likely with more retarded questions.

 

Thickness of the m11x is slightly larger than 1215n... it's also heavier. However, I think it's still plenty portable. Don't really notice my backpack being heavier with it in there as opposed to the 1215n. Don't have any comparison shots of the two... but they're fairly compariable in size, m11x is a tad larger I think. The notebook skin I had fit perfect with the 1215n, it's a little tight on the m11x.

I might have just lucked out with the power plug, but it's really a very very tiny plug, smaller than any cell phone plug I've seen (before everything went micro/mini usb). Can't possibility have the durability of a larger plug though. If you're the type who uses your computer on a desk or something, I guess that small fault might slide by, but as a student, I'm always using my computer like on my bed, or on my chair in my lap, and I'm also always plugging and unplugging it. With the current price of these new... I personally feel as though there are better options out there at the moment (new dm1z, m11x core2's, etc). Putting the power plug issue aside, the lack luster keyboard and speakers, hard/loud mouse button leave a little to be desired.

 

I agree that the power plug does look a little fragile and after reading about some peoples problems with it i am a little more careful but it doesn't feel loose or weak in any way so like you say maybe you just lucked out.
I also agree that the m11x is the superior choice for performance/price however my reason for not considering one was that i already have a flashy glowing alienware with my m17x and i felt the need for something a little less in your face and a little more professional looking. At the time the 1215n was the best alternative and still has a respectable level of performance for the price.

Nowadays perhaps the best choice other than the m11x would be one of the amd fusion solutions since they show some promising numbers rivalling and sometimes bettering that of the 1215n for a similar price.

 

hi guys. im new here and i havent read the entire blog. had my 1215n last oct from the US. no bluetooth and usb 3 with 2 x 1gb ddr3 800.

I was wondering if anyone of you had tried 1 x 4gb ddr3 1333 in your 1215n? I know some memory site claims that their 1 x 4gb ram works. I just wanna know if any one of you tried 1x 4gb ram and what model and brand.

 

I don't own one so might be off-base here, but am pretty sure the system can only do 4gb in a 2 x 2 configuration.

Thanks again for the info oogamar & onspeed. After a quick Google of my ancient VAIO, I realized (without the docking station) it's basically the same exact size & weight as the mighty m11x. Unfortunately I'm out of town & can't reacquaint myself with it for a few days yet. I really do need compact & lightweight though, even if it's by a margin some deem irrelevant. That said, after more poking around I ran into the upcoming Lenovo x120e, which I'm really interested in. Originally I was after a 10.1" due to size, though also want a usable resolution and a little power behind it. The x120e's pretty close. My main concern's the shared/6310 video, but that's for another thread & I apologize for wandering off-topic.

EDIT - OOPS, sorry for the "double post"! too many tabs open lol

 

i got mine a week ago and have already upgraded it to 6 GB of PC1333 (4gb+2gb). no problems so far.
btw, two usb 2.0 ports on the right side of 1215N are replacable with 3.0 since it's a different standalone board, not a part of mobo. look @ asusparts.eu

 

Heh. Didn't know Onspeed opted for a Dellienware, too.

When my brother comes home from uni I'll try and take some comparison pictures. (He's the one I sold my 1215n to, since he needed it more than I did.)

 

I apologize for my mis-information a few posts back then. Pretty sure they used to be limited to 4gb, maybe a BIOS update took care of it. Anywho, my bad!

 

Hey guys,

Did anyone find another way to overclock the cpu??
I hate these bootproblems after using setfsb.

Does 4 or even 6 gb ram really increase the performance in gaming? because I think the hole system is more limited by cpu & gpu...

 

i'll post some screenshots later. honestly i'm kinda surprised it does eat such amount of ram. was sure also about 4 gb maximum....

dunno, never tried to game at this point

 

thanks for the info. what memory are you using for 4gb + 2gb? can you also post the memory allocation of your 6gb? like how much ram is allocated for system memory, reserved and etc.

didnt know that the 2 usb slots on the side are upgradeable. il try to check it out.

in my opinion, the effect of having more than 4gb of ram has minimal effect on gaming for the 1215n. the bottle neck is still the atom cpu and the crappy driver of the gpu.

 

I agree about the drivers and that is why everyone who has a 1215n should follow this link and tell nvidia just how crappy their drivers are atm so we can get it sorted.
http://forums.nvidia.com/index.php?showtopic=191992

They will only fix it if there are a significant number of people who want it; so every post towards the cause counts.

 

here're screenshots of ram installed on my 1215N. glitch with cpu-z...it shows it's ddr2 not ddr3

 

is it really nvidia's fault or asus?

some glitch on cpu-z. maybe it needs an update fixed. anyways this is great info. so you're using g.skill. are you using g.skill on both 2gb and 4gb ram?

im thinking of buying kingston value ram but not sure if their 4gb chip will work. the 605 bios could've fixed it. not just the compatibility mode but the max ram too. maybe even upto 8 gb it will worth but i doubt if there's really a big performance difference.

 

no, the second stick (2gb) is a Nanya one. you can see it on one of the screenshots.

 

Well the ion 2 is an nvidia chip that yes is in an asus product but is still supported (apparently) under the verde driver program so it is nvidia's responsibility.
The reason that the performance is capped overall is intels fault but that is another matter.

The different drivers have shown varying results in stability which shows nvidia has the power to make this chip run as it should. We just need to show them that theres a need for fixes that they're probably unaware of atm.

 

Can some1 help with a little problem ? I've just bought a 2x2gb ddr3 1333mhz kingston ram (KVR1333d3s9) to my asus 1215, after instal i tried to overclock cpu to 2.360 ghz as im used to do to play games like cod black ops and mafia. however, when i try to do it with this new ram the system crash, the highest o.c cpu that i could get is 2.166 mhz. But if i put back the old hynix ram ( 1x1 gb) i still can o.c to 2360mhz. Does some1 know why this could be happening?? havent tried yet with windows 7 64, but if it happens to 32bit should happen with 64 too. Any suggestion to solve this ??

 

I too noticed that when jumping straight to my original overclock of 2.21 that with the new ram i purchased that it would crash. However if i put it up to 2ghz and slowly incremented from there i could get it up to my previous maximum of 2.37ghz. The only explanation i can think of is that this cheap ram doesn't like big frequency changes, despite the fact it is already running heavily underclocked by default in this system.

My advice would be to go slow from where you know it is now stable back up to where it was stable before seeing if you can get it back to where it was one step at a time. If not then you might just have some especially sensitive RAM

 

I can confirm that. Slow increments and everything will work out. I could get the fsb slider up to +-560 if I did it in increments of maximum 20. Takes a bit longer, but no big deal.

 

Critical problem now : Computer wont power up.

Hitting the power button does nothing. All of a sudden it powered off and thats it.

Which I fixed .... seems there was a problem with the AC adapter, carry on .

 

Glad to hear it... could you be a little more specific? what exactly performs well?

 

sorry if its a double post but i gotta find a fix for this problem...
is there?

 

In a word no... setfsb and overclocking isn't officially supported by asus so they haven't taken its operation into account when setting up the standby/resume functions. Its not something that will ever be fixed...

 

Well that is ridiculos...
What do you do?
Never put it into sleep mode?

 

You have to understand, setfsb is third party overclocking software. Asus or infact any manufacturer doesn't like it when you use third party software to change the base workings of their machines and won't support such programs because if they did then they would be liable if anything went wrong.

I did say in the overclocking guide that it is possible (granted very very unlikely) that you can cause damage by overclocking with setfsb and you should do so at your own risk. A side effect of using setfsb is that the sleep/resume function doesn't work.

You asked what i do: i only overclock when i know i'm going to need it. In otherwords i dont leave the overclock on 24/7 so if i need to put it to sleep i can.

Hope that clears things up for you.

 

Well I geuss you can't have your cake and eat it too...

Once you've overclocked from setfsb, how do you 'unclock' or remove the clock.
besides for obviously resetting the fsb to it's original speed, but I'm assuming that that won't stop it from not turning on from sleep..

Thanks