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    First Hands on Asus N51TP and N81VP w/ATI 4650/GT 130M & AMD Puma 2!

    Discussion in 'Asus' started by Red_Dragon, Jan 24, 2009.

  1. sephiroth135

    sephiroth135 Notebook Geek

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    I will get my N81 soon :D

    Several resellers have them in-stock but I got it from GENTECH!!!

    Go Ken!!

    I will probably be one of the 1st to get it since I needed a computer ASAP and asked for next day delivery (including weekends, ouch $$$) ...

    *prays to the laptop GOD* no lemon, no lemon, no lemon
    *prays to the laptop GOD* perfect screen, perfect screen, perfect screen

    :p
     
  2. Red_Dragon

    Red_Dragon Notebook Nobel Laureate

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    Awesome, they'll take good care of you.

    Dont worry lets just say its a good luck wish but youll have a flawless unit, enjoy :D
     
  3. sephiroth135

    sephiroth135 Notebook Geek

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    Yeah I'm usually pretty lucky with computers until I bought a Dell Precision m6400 and received 3 basically DOA earlier this month (only 1 was truly DOA but the other two where unusable). One of them ate (it even did dramatic crunching sounds :( ) my windows vista DVD since dell forgot to send it to me and since it was a slot drive it was not fun.

    I always prayed the "notebook GOD" and it worked :cool: , I just forgot to do it for those dells and I felt the wrath of the notebook Gods. Better safe than sorry ;) .

    Anyways I might as well hunt down all the drivers and stressing/benchmarking tools since I always like to test everything in my new computers.
     
  4. Red_Dragon

    Red_Dragon Notebook Nobel Laureate

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    That sounds great, good luck :D
     
  5. Rescue

    Rescue Notebook Enthusiast

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    Ken from GenTech Computers says:

    "Just confirmed with Asus that US won't be getting N51Tp, it'll be F50 with GeForce GT 120 instead."

    Looks I'll be getting the n81Vp then. One problem with the n81 though...

    Like the Lenovo keyboards, the CTRL button is in the wrong spot! The FN button is on the bottom left corner and then control is to the right of it. It should be switched around. Is it possible to reprogram the keys so that the FN keys acts as a control key?
     
  6. Red_Dragon

    Red_Dragon Notebook Nobel Laureate

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    IKAS V Notebook Prophet

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    Sorry if this has ben asked before but GenTech offers 2 models(N80) the Nvidia one and the ATI one, they only had COD4 demo for the ATI model( looked fantastic by the way very impressed on how smooth and fluid the gameplay was).
    I know that both are 1 GB GPU's but which one offers better performance/FPS for games.
     
  8. Sephoroth

    Sephoroth Notebook Evangelist

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    Both N80's at GenTech carry an Nvidia 9650 GT w/ 1GB onboard DDR2 RAM.

    The new N81Vp however has an ATI 4650 w/ 1GB onboard GDDR3 RAM however will definitely outperform the Nvidia. Asus will be releasing an N81Vg which will carry the new GT 120M though how good it will perform still seems to be unclear. Unless there is a specific reason for you to avoid ATI (as there is for me), I'd choose the N81Vp.
     
  9. sgogeta4

    sgogeta4 Notebook Nobel Laureate

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    GT 120M will perform below the 9650M GT :(
     
  10. Sephoroth

    Sephoroth Notebook Evangelist

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    In terms of actual processing power it seems like that. However, I'm curious if it will be paired with GDDR3 onboard RAM which corresponds with that found in the N81's ATI model and if so, how much it would effect performance compared to current generation N80s with GeForce 9650GTs....

    I am also wondering on the price range as according to the specs posted here, it seems like it will suffer a slightly lower clocked CPU as well (T9400 vs. T9550).

    http://asus.com/news_show.aspx?id=14282
     
  11. sephiroth135

    sephiroth135 Notebook Geek

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    I have been playing for a while with my new n81 :D ... dunno if I should post my info on the N80 owner thread or if I should make a new thread about it.
     
  12. AdequateRemedy

    AdequateRemedy Notebook Enthusiast

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    Ahh how is it? I'm deciding between this and a 15.4 inch right now. Is the battery and everything pretty much as excepted?
     
  13. aan310

    aan310 Notebook Virtuoso

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    yea, its about a 9600m GS
     
  14. Red_Dragon

    Red_Dragon Notebook Nobel Laureate

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    make a new thread since the n81 and the n80 are completely different models.
     
  15. sgogeta4

    sgogeta4 Notebook Nobel Laureate

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    Sephiroth, what are the clock speeds (GPU-Z screenshot?) of the GT 120M??

    edit: crap he has HD 4650... wonder if anyone knows the GT 120M specs...
     
  16. Sephoroth

    Sephoroth Notebook Evangelist

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    The GT 120M isn't present in any notebooks yet. It will be present in the N81VG when that is released.

    According to Engadget: The newfangled 120M GPU features NVIDIA CUDA technology, 32 processing cores, DirecX 10 support, 1080p video playback and 110 gigaflops of computing power.
     
  17. AdequateRemedy

    AdequateRemedy Notebook Enthusiast

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    I know ATI generally had bad drivers for Linux, but I plan to do all my gaming on the windows side of things so will the 4650 have a good enough driver to just survive with word processing and internet surfing under linux? I'm just worried since its a brand new card that there will be 0 drivers for a while.
     
  18. Sephoroth

    Sephoroth Notebook Evangelist

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    +1. I am having the same fear. I would also like to be able to do at least basic 3D rendering while in Linux. Too bad there is no public ETA on the N81VG....
     
  19. Red_Dragon

    Red_Dragon Notebook Nobel Laureate

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    Well i guess you were wrong....nuff said Lololololololol HAHAHAHHAHA Hehehehehe
     
  20. plasma.

    plasma. herpyderpy

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    Ah well. My reign of pessimism is over!
     
  21. Red_Dragon

    Red_Dragon Notebook Nobel Laureate

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    Good, im glad to hear.
     
  22. gggplaya

    gggplaya Newbie

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    when are the N51TP's coming out, i want to order one now? What are the specs ont he N51Tp, all i could find is that it's got the larger 15.4" screen. Does it also have a bigger battery too?
     
  23. bagienny

    bagienny Notebook Consultant

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    I just got a N51Tp for testing, and I have some really bad news.

    First of all, this model is equiped with a Mobility Radeon HD4650 (so far, so good), with... 1GB of... DDR2 memory (again!). This is just lucridous, but wait to hear this: the score in 3Dmark06 is (suspense!) 4392.

    Thanks ASUS, you messed up real nice. Equip a card that can manage to pull a nice, 6300+ 3dmark06 score (using a GDDR3 mem) with a DDR2. Talk 'bout a bottleneck. ( http://www.techpowerup.com/gpuz/nkm8a/ )

    I'll post some more results later if anyone is interested.

    [edit]Oh, and the screen is 1366x768 15,6" widescreen.
     
  24. Red_Dragon

    Red_Dragon Notebook Nobel Laureate

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    A tester eh? Pretty cool are you allowed to post pics? That is pretty dissapointing to here but that doesn't sound right are you sure these notebooks with the DDR2 aren't aimed at another market?
     
  25. bagienny

    bagienny Notebook Consultant

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    Dunnow, but I'll ask.
    Hm, I don't really know on what market they're aimed, that's a sample for press purposes, and I would rather expect ASUS to be shipping press samples with better configurations than the ones for the market, not worse, cause that wouldn't make much sense.
     
  26. plasma.

    plasma. herpyderpy

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    Yeah, 128bit + DDR2 will bring down the best of cards.
     
  27. SymphonyX

    SymphonyX Notebook Evangelist

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    Turns out the Mobility Radeon HD 4650 GDDR3 even gave the Geforce GT 130M a drubbing... and the MR HD 4650 is 57% faster than the Geforce 9600M GT which means it got thrashed real bad. I wonder how fast the MR HD 4670 would be.

    Eh... I'm not surprised. The desktop HD 4650 and 4670 does beat the crap out of the Geforce 9500 GT, which Nvidia's mobile mid-range GPUs are based on.

    http://www.notebookcheck.net/Review-Compal-KHLB2-Notebook.14963.0.html
    http://www.laptopmag.com/review/laptop/asus-n81vp-c1.aspx?page=3
     
  28. franzerich

    franzerich Notebook Evangelist

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    Thx for informing us. Good 2 know, that they sell crap again... won't buy that.

    btw. what is a "Puma 2" ? I've never heard of that. AFAIK the next platform after Puma is called "Tigris".
     
  29. bagienny

    bagienny Notebook Consultant

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    Well, that's not a next generation mobile platform, that's for sure. AMD doesn't know about Puma 2 I would think :D I think it's just good ol' puma paired with a 4000 series Radeon HD. That's not a new platform.
     
  30. Deadhead

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    AMD Turion™ 64 mobile technology Processor ZM84/ 82/ 80, RM 72, QL 62...... er, I'm a noob, so whats the GHz on the comp?
    thanks.
     
  31. bagienny

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    >< Ups, I did, thanks though, I tried to delete that message but I didnt find a way to delete a quick reply. Thanks.
     
  33. bagienny

    bagienny Notebook Consultant

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    If anyone's interested, here are some photos of N51.
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    The LCD lid is a magnet for fingerprints...
    [​IMG]
    ...suprisingly, the palm rest area isn't ;))
    [​IMG]
    Touch-sensetive panel is quite nice, but slightly less sensitive that it should be.
    [​IMG]
    I must admit, this keyboard is remarkable. It's the best keyboard I've ever typed on :)

    Cheers :)
     
  34. angelicvoices

    angelicvoices Notebook Deity

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    Asus doesn't recognize this laptop as existing that I can tell.. where can one get drivers for it?
     
  35. Red_Dragon

    Red_Dragon Notebook Nobel Laureate

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    Driver for what, the GPU? :)
     
  36. angelicvoices

    angelicvoices Notebook Deity

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    All necessary drivers required with a clean install of Windows. Got someone who just got theirs and it's overheating and crashing like crazy. Also temp monitoring programs aren't showing up a lot of the hardware. We're going to try wiping it.
     
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