G1S Hot or Not?

I wish you could just keep the lights on all the time..

 

What Intel INF update? What benefit does this update do to the system, beside increasing the WEI score? Can you give me the link?

 

Ian,

http://downloadcenter.intel.com/detail_desc.aspx?agr=N&ProductID=&DwnldID=12150&strOSs=OSFullName=&lang=eng&iid=homepage+inf_utility

Honestly I'm not sure what it really does, but it is the updated drivers for the CPU/chipset. And yes, it did make my WEI score go from 4.5 to 5.1. And no, I don't know if it does anything else besides that, but it can't be a bad thing I figure. Also, I really had to fight with it to work. I went through the 965m drivers and so on, fought like hell, and after one reboot it jumped to 5.1 WEI CPU and stayed there.

I hope someone else can give a precise howto on what to fix. I noticed that the drivers that ended up working were released in June 07.

 

I got a quick question. I was wondering when will asus officially release the g1s and g2s? or did they release them all ready?

 

They are already released for a week or two now.

 

How long does everyone think this laptop will last? In terms of playing games well on at least medium (possibly low-medium) settings on native res? Also in terms of not being simply out of date?

 

That's impossible to answer. At 667mhz ram, that's the bottleneck at this point. The 8600 DX10 card will make it strong for, I'd say, until late 2008, early 2009.

I can play Supreme Commander now with full units and very little slowdown on my G1S, and I've heard that is a very challenging system game.

 

After it's first boot my WEI score for the CPU was 5.1. Not sure why some people are getting 4.4 unless their drivers are outdated. There was also minimal bloatware. The only thing I found that could be deleted was Norton. Does anyone else know of any additional programs I can delete that are unnecessary?

 

That's very intersting fact. Seems that people who bought the G1S have lots of bloatware.

Can you tell me when and where did you buy the G1S?

 

Gentechpc.com Not sure if anything else was bloatware. A lot of it was ASUS tools so I wasn't sure if they could be deleted.

 

All Asus tools can be deleted, I would suggest keeping the DirectConsole and possibly Lifeframe, but get rid of everything else.

 

It is puh-retty awesome. Got mine yesterday, and frustrating Vista problems aside (can't move/delete/copy files manually?! WTF?!), it is great. I can't complain about the graphics - could you really notice if the last couple of high-end settings were turned on in F.E.A.R.? - and there's only a couple of things I've noticed that I would prefer different.

I wish there were volume control buttons that worked in games, and it IS in fact a minor annoyance having all 4 USB ports in the one place (thought it wouldn't be when I first read about people worrying about that). With the mouse, an external HDD and a USB stick all plugged in it was a little difficult either adding or removing things. The speakers are miles better than my old HP/Compaq laptop's ones, and when looking at the screen I don't notice the green lights on the side.

A top notch computer - shame about the OS being so beta-like (still!) however.

 

I was quite impressed by mine when I got it too. I haven't played any games yet, but I'm sure that will just pull me in even more.

 

all you who just got your g1s, i envy you. haha, i have to wait a week for mine to come...how shall i pass the time??!?

 

Keep attacking the tracking website, I'm surprised FedEx's server didn't crash while they were shipping mine

 

I want to see the V1S. If it has the same specs it would be the way for me. I mean I want a business laptop, but gaming is my business. So when I want to just get to something right quick, I rather do it with this better "build quality" as opposed to green lights.

 

What are you talking about? Do you actually build the G1s's or something?

The G1s is built wonderfully. I know....I have one.

 

I think he means that he'd rather have the V1S over the G1S if they have the same specs because of better build quality. Not to say the G1S has poor build, but being a business class notebook, the V1S is sure to have a superior build. Of course, you'll have to pay more for it.

 

Thats mean V1s make for people looking business class notebook, and G1s made for people looking gaming class notebook (Im agreed ^^), but only the price i can't accept (V1s)

 

hmm....so will the price of the v1s really be much more than the g1s? some ppl on the other threads were sayin that it woud be cheaper. Also, whats up with the f8, its goin to have a radeon graphics card. shoud i wait for that or get the g1s? (it looks great). Also, whats up with the bloatware stuff? Will upgrading a hardrive really make a huge difference on my gaming? what amt of ram do u guys recommend?

 

ho wlong did it take those of you who customized components ot get your g1s from the time you placed the order?

 

some of u guys were talking about 2.2 ghz versus 2.0 ghz. Since the 2.2
is around 200 bucks more than the 2.0, you would most probably be able to get 2GB of nice ram to boost the g1s up to 3 or 4 GBs of RAM...which one seems like a better deal....gettin a 2.0ghz model w/ 1GB and gettin a few GBs of RAM with the extra 200 bucks to get it up to 4GB....OR....2.2ghz model with 2GB of RAM???

 

system will probably run better with 2.0ghz and 4gigs of ram. but to use that you need to use a x64 OS.

May as well get the cpu now and save up and upgrade the ram later if you cant afford both, but ram is reallly cheap now so you may be able to afford both and dont know it. 80$ for a 2gb dimm.

Thats somthing you need to know tho if you order 2gb ram its probably coming with 2x1gb, so to upgrade you have to buy a 2gb dimm and toss away one of the 1gb dimms thus effectily waisting money. (unless it says specificly it comes with a single 2gb dimm.

Note: when I say dimm I mean so-dimm just hate typing it out every time.

 

damn, would 3GB work for the 32bit? also, how many of the "RAM docks" does the G1s have? I comes with one open slot right? (2GB model)

 

3GB works fine in 32bit OS. The G1s has two RAM slots each filled with a 1GB stick by default. To get 3GB of RAM you would have to remove 1 stick or RAM and replace it with a 2gb stick.

 

I went the 3gb RAM route and have been happy with it so far.

 

My G1S originally came with 2GBs. Upgraded to 3GB weeks later. I don't see any performance difference but hey, RAM was cheap and 3GB>2GB

 

i was just looking around on the nvidia site and then the 8700 GT pops up. From its specs, it looks just more like an ocd version of the 8600gt...or not? At the same time, a lot of ppl were comparing the 7950GTX with the 8700GT and most ppl suggested gettin the 7950GTX...stating that the 8700 isnt really even good enough to deal with DX10 graphics right now...what do u guys think? it seems that high end games like Lost Planet and FEAR work welll on the G1s right now!

 

The 8700M GT has been shown to be just an overclocked version of the 8600M GT. The 7950GTX is more powerful, due to its 256bit memory interface, but if you're going to play DX10 games technically the 8700M GT should do better.

 

The settings on DirectConsole are pretty minimal, how do you set it up to display instant messages from AIM?

 

The G series looks pimped but not sleek... the "sleek"ers i would say the W and V, and U series.

 

You can't it can only be used with Microsoft properties (MSN, Outlook, etc.)

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(...well not etc., those are really the only two)

 

Thanks for the heads up, I haven't been able to find any information released from Asus in regards to this, so I'm sorry to spam you with it. I guess I could just suck it up and use MSN messenger, but AIM seems to have a larger market share.

On a related note: how difficult is it to remove the bloatware. Theoretically Best Buy removed the uneccesary software (I don't know why else I gave them $30), but many of the utilities with questionable usefulness remain. It seems from browsing the forum that Direct Console and another utility are useful but the rest are next to useless. Am I going to need to dig into my registry to get these buggers out?

On the topic of the actual thread, I recently (as in last Thursday) purchased a G1, and am pleased with it. Unfortunately I have yet to instal Battlefield 2 as I need to find the CD key, but I will gladly report its performance when I test it out. Medieval II Total War seems to run well, but I haven't played more than a couple minutes. I will definitely keep y'all informed about my new machine, hopefully it lives up to the CNET user reviews.

 

The blank space isn't too terrible. I thought it was really bad from seeing review pictures, etc, but after using it for a while I got used to it. I only realized after I bought it that that is actually a really good thing, and here's why:
- the notebook's no bigger than standard 15.4" ones, the frame of the LCD is less wide on the side than other 15.4" notebooks, so it essentially cancels out.
- the longer body allowed for a wider and cooler palm rest - the heat producing components are at the back, the front (palm rest) is always cool even under stress. Playing games feels much more comfortable. also, as we know, the battery is affected negatively by heat, as heat accelerates the loss of capacity. the slightly longer body of the G1S allowed the battery to be placed far away from the hot areas at the back, because ASUS located it at the very front.

 

The V1S is most likely several hundred dollars more. that was the case with the V1Jp and G1p. The V1Jp didn't even have identical configuration, as its x1700 was weaker than G1P's 7700go. now, if the two notebooks actually have identical configuration, I would expect an even greater difference in price.

 

yea i guess that sounds logical. howb the f8 that everyone's talkin about? any ideas about the price of that?

P.S. will there be a price drop in the g1 after these new models come out??? cuz if there will...damn im waiting for that!

 

I personally loved the idea of a gaming based laptop.

But I got an IFL90, that may run a bit slower, but hey!

I find the looks of the G1S completely ridiculous!

So do to the fact that I'm now in college and not in middle school.. I'll drop to a smaller price tag and a non Hasbro case.

And plus! XP pro + Matte WSXGA+ screen FTW!

 

To each his own. I like my G1S.

I thought of getting an IFL90 but I found the look so....blah. It reminds me of beige. Thinkpads look snazzy next to the IFL90.

I'm way out of college and well into my career and I know that performance doesn't have to be boring.

 

Well guys, i bought the G1S and i can say i already love it.

I run 3dmark06 free version on it. I scored 3588 in the default resolution on free version 1280*1024

Then i downloaded Ntune from nvidia. I set the hz up to 654 and got 4560. This is a laptop that outperforms most other in the same price class!

Its got some bugs, but all cutting-edge laptops has that problem. atm im at work so i dont remember the score exact, but it was 35xx factory and 45xx OC. Thats OC from 635 to 654. My laptop also scored about 200 pts over most other G1S - this probably because i have upgraded it to 3GB ram. I also have a new 2 gb ram chip on its way by mail so il have 4 gb total. This is the new ram i installed;
Crucial DDR2 SO-DIMM 2048MB CL5 Non-ECC, 1.8V, 256Mx64, 200p DDR2 PC2-5300

It was recommended by the shop i bought the G1S at. I can recommend this chip. They work great and its plug n'play. I read some about the G1S bios dont "see" more then 3/3.5Gb ram max. I dont rly care as this will be fixed shortly

I strongly recomend this laptop! - the only negative thing is that it comes with pre-installed Windows Vista. When its pre-installed it also includes som programs that will auto-start when windows starts. 20 minutes of cleanup and you they are all gone (it saved me 200 mb ram to clear up those auto-startup programs!)

 

The performance difference betwen a IFl90 and G1S is huge. First reason is that the IFL90 uses the DDR2 8600 with 512mb. The G1S use the DDR3 with 256mb. The more ram is not always the best, in this case its definately not the best. I read about the Zeptnote laptop with 8600 (same as IFL90), it scored 1500-1800 points lower in 3dmark06. Especially when it came to OC.

The ddr2 512 mb just simply cant handle higher frequenzy and is easily outperformed by the DDR3 256. Google it and you will see your self.

Also the 8700GT is an OC version of the 8600GT DDR3. I do not recomend you OC your 8600GT to the 8700 simply because it will overheat very soon in a very compact 15'4" laptop. I did OC it to 667 at the most and it ran fairly stable, but the highest real stable i got it to run at was 654. The factory default is 635 i believe. These 15hz did however give me a big performance boost! (read post above).

Also i think the IFl90 is a bit plastic fantastic. The G1S is hard and doesnt "give in" when you hold it or type on the keyboard.

Get the G1S and buy 2 x 2GB ram chips. It's "cheap" and the simply the best 8600GT laptop out there today. Download Ntune and clock it to 650 and you got an even faster one. The IFL90 is simply no match at all.

 

The G1s ought to be a good machine, provided you get one without problems. I may just have been the unlucky one, but mine has had 3d performance issues since day 1. If you go for one, go for 3gb of RAM because you will need all you can get.

Support from ASUS has been terrible, so if post-sale support is important to you, maybe think again. On the other hand, support from people on this forum has been knowledgable and fast.

In my view, the G1s could do with a BIOS revision or two to fix power issues - see posts on CPU throttling when charging battery - and Vista is still not the best O/S to use on a gaming platform. Still, there must be many other users who are happy with theirs so please don't take my experience as typical...

 

Is Asus laptop known for it low-build quality? I've never own one, so I am just checking. I have own Sony, Dell, and Acer and they have above-average quality, but the good thing is that they never break down so much so that I have to call tech support.

 

Yes, you are right about that it has a couple bugs. Like if your battery goes below 90% your CPU will perform 50%. This because (some say) the AC charger is not powerfull enough to charge the battery at full speed and run the CPU at full speed. I have yet to see if thats the truth. Vista Ultimate is far from Ultimate, its crap, ****, rubbish, but so was XP when it came! These flaws always comes on cutting-edge technology. Truth is the G1S is one of the pioneers to use the 8600gt ddr3 + Vista. Give them some time, ofcourse they will fix it.

About ASUS releasing drivers for win XP;
I'm not so sure they will make this top priority and in my opinion they shouldn't! First they should work out the flaws with the Vista setup. Fix the Bios and the 90% battery bug.
It is possible to install WinXP, many threads describe how to, but dont complain about more bugs in the G1S if you install XP. XP is not supported on the G1S today, they have not released drivers to XP. The drivers you find are compiled from other similar laptops that works, but not 100%. I suggest you help Asus make Vista a better OS instead of trying to revert to XP.

The same things happened when we went from Win95 to 98 to 2000 to NT to Xp and now Vista. Would you revert from XP to 2000NT today?- 99% would say no, give Vista some time, SP1 comes around christmas, it will work out loads of bugs. Vista is/will be a better OS then Xp.

 

That's a VERY bad bug! I mean, if you're playing high-end games while it is plugged to the power supply, it'll create much stuttering in the game.

 

Well then you try to keep it charged at above 90% most of the time. Personaly this is no problem for me as its usualy always at the same place and plugged in. Also i cant confirm if this is true, its something i read on some other forums, it might be a problem only that user has. Its definately something they will fix, if they cant fix it by software then they will send a new AC charger. Worst case scenario is that you must buy a new AC charger - so no biggie

 

You could also remove the battery and run from straight AC if you have to play the game in that scenario. It is too bad if its true though.

 

if only it came with a swirv cam like my w5a..then it would've been the craziest shiets ever made..