G1s LCD screen noticeably grainy

That would be an other nightmare like the a8js... but i doubt it.

 

What is everest, is that like a tools to see the exact LCD info?

 

I took the LCD's out of the housings on both my G1 and G1s, only to discover that the LCD on the G1s was a samsung, and the G1 was a brand ive never heard of...(cant remember it off the top of my head...CH something). Anyways it seams that ALL ASUS laptops that use a 15.4 WSXGA screen that have been manufactured in the last couple of months are using either LG or Samsung screens that show the "graininess"...where as the older G1's lamborghini's etc....have the other brand which does NOT have the graininess.....I have a VX1 lamborghini that i got about a month ago and it turned out to be a LG screen so i swapped it out with the screen from a G1 I find it rather disappointing that asus has decided to go with the samsung/lg screens which are notorious for their graininess (this only applies to WSXGA/WUXGA screens of both 15 and 17 inches).....it seems to be the way most of the laptop LCD market is going which is a shame...
What i finally did on my new G1s is i went ahead and swapped out the LCD with an older G1..so now i have a G1s with the better G1 screen...love it!

-Scotty

 

ok go to google type everest, download it

it will tell you your lcd model and then we can look up its stats.

The manufacturer for the g1p screen was cmo aka chei mei optoelectronics

I guess we can assume it is samsung. Hopefully an owner can tell us.

Well even if you got a vx1 a month ago, that model was made something like a year and a half ago...and that screen is a good screen but its not even the same size and it would be much dimmer....

As far as the way the laptop lcd market is going.... Well its just a matter of the largest companies have the ability to make millions of lcds and the smallest dont.
So perhaps CMO does not have the capacity to make enough screens for the g1s or they just charge too much.

Asus is a stockholder in cmo though. Perhaps it is marketed like this, cmo screens go on their brand new models and then samsung or auo on the ones that sell a lot.

check to see what screen is on the v1s also

 

I think I agree with you on the placebo. Personally I think my G1S looks great. It is very easy on the eyes. I did uninstall the splendid app, since it didn't seem to really improve anything.

 

OK, I'm not on the placebo... and I can notice the graininess of my screen which is mostly notable when using Word/Excel/Explorer (anything over a white background). I sent a technical inquiry to ASUS, and I'm still waiting the answer...

So, I've downloaded Everest Ultimate and my LCD is a Samsung built in 2005???? (Product LTN15P1-L03, code SEC3346)

That's pretty bad because I heard in the past that Samsung was one of the best LCD manufacturer. Is that true?

 

samsung is the largest lcd manufacturer in the world. A lot of the best screens are samsung. Like almost all the things you think are made by sony in lcds are made by samsung.

 

The Samsung lcd may have been made by cmo. Samsung has admitted to using Taiwanese manufactures for a variety of displays. I’m willing to bet that these Samsungs are rebranded cmos and that’s why asus is using them. Here are two articles on the matter.
http://joongangdaily.joins.com/article/view.asp?aid=2876943
http://www.tmcnet.com/usubmit/2007/03/24/2440550.htm

 

Ok read that more closely.

It says its using other lcd makers in samsung branded monitors.

That wouldnt change who made the lcd or the model. Its not possible that the samsung lcd is made by someone else.

 

If that CMO model is only made for Samsung wouldn’t Everest detect it as a Samsung? Or does it always show who manufactured rather than sold the panel. I’m not familiar with the program.

 

So..any updates? I called Asus the other day and they said they haven't had anyone else report it. That could be BS or it could be that no one has actually called in but me..

 

I will also make it a point to call Asus about this...
1-888-678-3688 for you guys!

 

It would say the manufacturer and model. Not who sold the model, which would be asus.

Now the name brand can get confused because a samsung made sony will say sony because there is a sony lcd company which is made by samsung. Its a specific samsung company for sony. They can do that, there is also a samsung company that only made lcds for dell lcd monitors and it says the manufacturer is dell when u look at it but its really made by samsung.

I guess you cant 100% say anything is made by anyone, because tommorow cmo can create a company called samsung cmo lcd, and all those are made by "samsung cmo" I guess for the purpose of confusing people. But its more logical to assume that its made by samsung.

If cmo lcds that are put in laptops say samsung on the manufacturer though well know about it at least eventually.

 

people complaning about grainyness when in word processor mostly... sounds like a settings issue like clear type. We had several subjects like this when LCD's were becoming popular and also again when high res ones came out.

 

The white backgrounds do look very blurry....or foggy....or just not very clear. But again, while watching movies and playing games...everything is great.

If you change the resolution, the white background then has faint black lines running all through it. While the other colors look fine. So something is not exactly right.

 

I expect a future bios update to fix this. Right now, until school where i have to carry it around, i'm using a nice acer 22" external monitor so it doesn't bother me

 

This is not something that a bios update will fix...it is the LCD hardware itself.

 

In the past, many asus models have had a graininess problem and most were fixable via a BIOS update so I'm sure that with enough calls Asus will address this problem.

 

Guys I just called this in; make sure if you can noticeably tell that your screen is grainy to let the Asus tech guys know!!

 

bump, this problem's still there and hasn't been fixed :S

 

another bump, call asus!

 

I have to agree with Vicious.

Graininess, sparklies, sparkles, silk-screen effect, etc. They are all used interchangeably. These are all inherent on display platforms featuring a semi-glossy to glossy medium with bright picture. For example, almost all HDTVs, especially rear-projection ones, suffer from graininess (the gurus call it the silk-screen effect on www.avsforum.com). This is normal. This is not a defect. The fact that it can be purportedly fixed does not mean it's a defect to begin with but rather, can be diminished with proper adjustments of video settings. On an HDTV for example, it is impossible to get rid of the silk-screen effect.

This effect, like others mentioned above, is most punctuated when viewing a solid-tone background e.g. a white screen. Graininess is a horrible name - silk-screen effect is actually more germane to the issue at hand as particular areas seem to 'shine' and this shining attribute resembles that from what you'd observe from a pile of sand. Because one person cried wolf, everybody else thinks they are affected with the same bug.

When I first got my HDTV, I saw the silk-screen effect in the center of the TV and tried to wipe it off. Couldn't. Then I found out it was inherent and everybody notices it. After a while I adapted to it where I no longer notice it anymore and it really isn't much of an inconvenient unless you are specifically attempting to look for it.

Not all laptop screens are equal since they vary in brightness, contrast, and even have different glossy layers, thus making this effect quite variable from laptop to laptop. But simply put, as what everybody else on avsforum would say, don't look at the graininess but look at what you're trying to do on your laptop.

 

I just got my G1S, and noticed the grainyness on the white screen of a web page, but to me it doesn't look bad at all. The detail of the picture on the lcd is so much better than anything else I've seen. It's alot better than my desktop lcd and my other laptop lcd. It seems to me that the coasting they use to give it the nice detail is causing the effect, but to me it's worth it.

To be honest I only noticed it because I picked up on it when viewing forums before I bought it. The Verticle viewing angle is a little better than my other laptop also. With my other laptop I have to be viewing it in a strict line-of-sight. from the top it is too bright and too dark from the bottom.

How come it is not possible to get a screen that is not glossy anymore? i remember an old laptop i used to have that I upgraded it to use a dvd drive and i would set it up high on a table. People on the floor could see it just fine. Those days are over I guess. I think it's a conspiracy, the portable DVD and HDTV people paid off the laptop makers?

 

Glossy screens have many advantages over matte ones, namely better contrast and brightness. I'm not sure if brightness plays a factor anymore since a lot of people rarely use full brightness (at least with glossy screens). But the contrast is noticeably improved. There is also purported enhancement in color reproduction as well but that is up in the air.

Of course, the one and only advantage of matte screens is that it is less prone to glare but it is by no means immune. I'd take the pros of the glossy over the matte anyday. And as others mentioned already, the glare-disadvantage of glossy screens can be minimized by adjusting the brightness.

Speaking from a marketing standpoint, there are not many matte screens anymore simply because they are losing popularity among the mass market.

 

Still no pics of grainy screens?

 

Looks like every other WSXGA Laptop LCD to me. White is never pure white on an LCD screen you can almost always see the different pixels almost forming different colors.

 

I bought the G1S from Best Buy last Friday excited that I finally found a decent laptop with WSXGA and Anti Glare.. as soon as I got home (and when restocking fee applied) I noticed the graininess, but more importantly, the horizontal streaks/lines that appear and are magnified by our own visual system... Most laptops have a grid of lines and your mind blends all of that... for some reason these screens, or at least the one I had and the one still on display, show these horizontal streaks...

When I approached the older G1 that was just a few feet away--- night and day difference in terms of brightness, and the horizontal lines and grain were non-apparent.

Suffice it to say I spoke with several of the managers and just came home with the cheaper, slightly slower, G1 and they skipped the restocking fee.

Those horizontal lines were really getting on my nerves, especially since I had it sitting right next to my 22" Glare Sceptre and it was no comparison...Maybe I was over-sensitive but I'll probably watch more movies and read more www than miss the boost in fps.

 

i also noticed my screen was greainy one time. This because the resolution had been turned down to 1280 instead of 1650 or what ever its supposed to be. Just turn it up to top resolution and it looks good!

 

I just want to point out to everyone that grainy is a physical problem. It's the glossy coating on top of the screen. If done properly, it should look very nice and clear like MOST HP laptops. So, uninstalling drivers & fixing bios will not make a difference.

The problem, CAN NOT be screen shotted. There is a picture that was re-created on google from appledefects.com

 

I just got my G1S and the screen looks like a normal glossy TN panel. The only screens that dont look like this are IPS panels which unfortunately are not available on laptops any more. I think it has everything to do with technology of the panel and not the laptop itself.