How many of you with C90's are *not* having issues?

Are you saying that the metal bracket can be removed and it will *not* cause mounting issues for the heatsink? Wouldn't it be slanted somewhat without the bracket to brace it?

 

the bracket holds the gpu in place, then the heatsink holds itself onto the heatspreader, no way to bypass it really, atleast now without a metal work shop so you can make a custom headspreader or something and perhaps sacrifice the middle screw that holds the gpu down.

I guess it was made that way for besides like I previously stated simplicity's sake, it will make the notebook more stable against physical shock like a drop or harsh bump...

 

i pulled of the fn key and had a hard time putting the 3 pieces back together and back on the board.
wouldnt suggest doing that.

 

no issues !

 

I've had one BSOD, haven't updated my thread with it yet though. It was totally random, and hasn't happened again. Haven't tried wireless yet, but it wants to run through my cellphone and was trying to before I removed the option. Other than that, its just shutting down in battery mode, which isn't really an issue because I can just use manual restart and it'll work that way. then it restarts fine on battery.

 

I guess im one of the REALLY lucky ones. I brought it into my Comp Sci class and my teacher thought i was crazy to buy a "no name" brand. But then again i did sneak a bat file that shutdown his computer on the server...

 

Yeah further testing my gpu has not gone above 78 under whatever load. On a different note is it just me or the moh demo looks better then the bioshock demo?

 

Also for whoever asked me before my bios version is 401.

 

if your teacher thought this was a no name brand, then shes the idiot, not you.

asus build quality is much better than most - not to mention asus makes most big name computers including dell, etc. not all of them, but a good amount.

 

Did you use riva tuner and you check the history graph or just alt-tab to check your temperatures? As soon you hit alt tab, gpu load goes down so temperature. But again, nice to see everything is working nice for you

 

^ Did both. Checked max temp which was 78 and checked how long the temp to drop down. It takes 1-2 min to drop to 70 then hangs there for a good while before drops to 68-69. On browsing and stuff before intense load its max is 68. Yeah thx rgs waited 3 weeks for the new c90 to come in and I am relieved.

 

its that cold ???? wow. any info from gentech how they managed to do that ?

 

^^^ and no bsod either really really anxious to know whats different to replicate in my c90 (care more for the no bsod part, but if can make my gpu ran cooler then tell me how and ill try it, mine is 91 under load btw)

 

91c isnt bad I can probably hit 100c easy, since 3dmark took it to 98.

 

Usually m8, 3dmark06 would have the highest temperature and even more than gaming itself cause they take your hardware to the limits. If you concern about game time, they wont make much difference as long your gpu and cpu load keep about the same % since your fan & cooler will keep the temperature steady when you hit an especific load work.

Remember, that my tests were done without air conditioning at ambient temperature (kind of mild hot) & I did 3 3dmarks06 test in a row to simulate some time of game conditions.

 

Hey, I'll be getting mine soon.

The RAM I'm getting is Corsair Value 667. I've read Corsair RAM causes some BSOD on the battery. How is it? I could also go with Crucial Rendition for about $10more/1GB

 

mine runs BEAUTIFUL!

what video drivers are yall using? im still using 101... tried to install the newest ones and it said it wasn't compatible...

ive got the 601 bios...

 

laptopvideo2go.com

The 158 or 163 will give you (at least on the desktop 8600) a noticeable performance boost

 

I currently have no issues with my c90 and I would like to thank all the posters on this forum for that fact.I ordered c90 7-11 and received august 22 from GENTECH.I rma my original Patriot RAM and ordered 3 gb of whatever compatible RAM from Ken.I have had no BSOD so far.GPU temps from RIVA tuner monitored at ranges mid 70ish at idle to mid 80ish (overclocked in 3d games). 3dmark06=3349/cpu 2222 in overclocked mode,GPU at 500/500 via nvidia n-tune.CPU temps are always around 55C at idle and never has gone higher than 59C so far,(monitored by "Core Temp").I have a Zalman zm-nc1000 laptop stand/cooler which brings the temps down a few degrees when I turn the fans on.BTW we are having a heat wave and the room is hot.I could not load windows xp from my old pre sp2 disk and formatted seagate drive and loaded xp-sp2 on desktop computer then inserted drive in c90 and it now works fine.You need a xp-sp2 disk before c90 will load windows first time. Finally I replaced the cpu/gpu thermal pads with ceramique by Arctic Siver because it was what I had around and the grey thermal pads kept falling off during assembly.My 12volt adapter from Gentech burned out within the first few minutes of use and have requested RMA. I love this computer.BTW I have the seagate 160gb/7200 and the Conroe e6600 (22 watt revision).RAM is nanya 1 gb and Kingston 2 gb from Gentech.I am using stock drivers from Asus website and the 601 bios which came stock.

 

So you would think, however it seems to most of us that the fans are triggered soley by the cpu temps, 3dmark taxes the cpu to the max, but in games most of the time very little cpu power is needed but the gpu can be stressed to the max, wich means a hotter card because the fans will not be going in super turbo mode like they were when I was doing 3dmark. I mean the fans were at max, it was a jet lifting off my desk and it still hit 98/99c.

 

Vicious you have to agree with me now... from Geodace's post you have to admit there is something being done differently with newer c90s... i have the exact same setup and drivers (not sure about cpu watts though) from the same vendor... but i have bsod in battery mode every 10 minutes... well the only thing i havent tried is bios 601 ... ill do that tonight

 

I have bios 601, I could try letting my notebook run in battery mode for a while. I'm curious about trying to shut it down in battery mode aswell. Generally speaking I only run this notebook plugged in because it uses a desktop CPU and only really look at the battery as a UPS. If I wanted a notebook that ran off a battery I'd have gotten the new V1S.

PS I'm also a Cancer, atleast thats what ppl keep telling me

 

well... its a laptop even though most of the time i run it plugged in id still like to be able to check mails do light websurfing while on a hotspot without the hassle of looking for a plug...

 

Yeah exactly, like now I am playing some o2jam in the living room, watching some youtube, watching tv, and some other stuff plugged in. However when I get home from work I dont plug in to check my mail or spend like 45min on the web before I crash.

 

They just replaced my unit with another unit. The other one had other problems the fans were making weird noises and basically was not attempting to cool down the computer somtimes.

 

So anyways, I still can't run in battery power, but will this be fixed with the new bios?

 

No it wont.

Are you running a set of RAM sticks that you ordered seperately or did you order them straight from the vendor? Take out the 2 GB stick. It's most likely a power supply issue, the 2 GB stick is taking too much power and running a BSOD.

 

Just ran it dry off the battery till critical battery warning came on (after an 1 hour and 24 min.) and then shut it down, no problems what so ever! Ran just fine, no BSOD and then it just shutdown like a charm. I am using Bios 601.

I did web browsing, email and downloaded about 280MB total.

I have 3GB of Kingston RAM, great stuff I even have 2GB of Kingston HyperX in my desktop!

 

Straight from the vendor, Gentech. So what does this mean, I can only use 1 gig of RAM if I want to run on battery power? I thought there were people here that are able to run 2 and even 3 gigs of ram in battery power mode.

 

It's luck of the draw. Some 2GB sticks have problems, some don't. Some people stick with 2GB and might have less issues.

 

I tested the fans with the ACE door open the first time I was afraid they were not working. It goes this way from left to right watching your fan config with the C90S upside down (well, in my case was perpendicular to really see how it works)

1st fans & 4th fans kick first after the system BIOS temperature read 58 oC (Im not sure but the BIOS temperatures are close to the GPU temperatures from my Rivatuners reading. THen, when your system hit 70 oC in the BIOS temperature reading, 3th & 4th would kick in. ANother thing I notice they fan velocity increase when you go ove 76 oC in the BIOS temperature. That is all I can say, how do they work, you can make your own conclusions from my observations.

1st fan is on the GPU heat dissipator, 2,3,& 4th are on CPU Heat dissipator

regards,

RG

 

Btw, on another note, I dont think would be safe to take out the plate stick on the GPU because we dont know how and what kind of paste ASUS use to stick both toguether so we could risk temperature increasing. However, could we use some kind of paste between the plate and the heat dissipator for the GPU??? What do you think?

 

It already has paste between them.

The ram has thermal pads and the gpu core has thermal paste on the under side, then on the top side in a area about the size of a cpu there is thermal paste connecting the heatspreader to the heatsink.

You may be able to improve cooling by adding more paste to the top side so that it connects with the entire heat sink, also by getting better thermal pads, and depending on the quality of the included thermal paste something like AS5 could help aswell.

 

Yes, I meant to change the one it comes with the laptop (the same gray paste that comes with the cpu heat dissipator) So do you think taking the gray paste and putting Artic silver will give us some difference??? btw, where could I find good thermal pads??

 

Asus is far from a no-name brand Nothing they produce is bad, I mean hell their motherboards and gfx cards are good too. They are also probably the first to make a gaming laptop that won't melt the components (aka 4 fans). Friiends of mine who had alienwares and such said it would melt itself eventually, but he lokoed at this and was like "hmm might actually work".

 

I just ran into some problems this morning. What causes a machine to just disable and uninstall my wireless device? I wake up, turn on the computer to check email, and lo and behold, my wireless network device is not working. I uninstalled turbogear and the vca adabter for turbogear, as per Ken's advice.

Thankfully, I re-installed the device and it is working properly. Pretty frustrating.

 

If you go from ac power to battery power without manually setting up your wireless card to stay on, it will disable it for power saving. Maybe that is what you experienced.

 

Yeah, I know that error. I was on battery all night and I didn't plug it in at all.

 

My Teacher (is a he) Is very knowledgeable in some aspects. Others not so much... And as such I get away with having a proxy and a putty shell on the school computers. Because... There is ALWAYS room for more super metroid!

 

huhwhat?




..

 

system shell gaming like dos but with the network;

 

when i run 3dmark in OC mode, it randomly stops almost at the same area... and keeps saying this error :
Idirect3dDevice 9 resent Failed,Device Lost. or,
Idirect3dvertexbuffer9:Lock Failed. D3D_DEVICELOST.

I can continue to work only after there's a vista bubble saying nvddmkm driver has stopped responding and has recovered. ANy of you having these issues ? tnx.

 

Exaclty

 

wow. now im in real deep trouble. sigh. it would be very costly for me to RMA it since im not in the US.

 

Woot. 30.362 seconds in wPrime.

 

Probably shouldn't buy laptops online overseas...

In any case, try running other GPU benchmarks or just play games for a while. While 3DMark 06 may show problems, if they don't repeat in other programs, you'll still be okay and it would save you the hassle of an RMA.

 

Hi All,

Does anyone here actually use their C90 as a portable computer and for work and if so what are your thoughts on the C90?

I understand I am in the wrong forum for my next question but who better to ask than the end users of the computer I am looking at buying. I am in the final stages of making a decision on a new laptop and I have come down to two, the C90 and the G1S-A1 and at the moment I am leaning towards the C90. The laptop will have to be carried to work everyday to do all the boring stuff associated with making a living but at nights will be used for the more serious stuff like Silent Service 4, GRAW 2 etc . That is why I have opted for a compromise with the 15" screen, but what I can't compromise with is the reliability. I work in Russia and I am a long way from the nearest ASUS service centre so sending it back for a repair is something that scares me, mainly because I can't be without a working computer. I understand that these forums usually only attract the people that have a problem and so we don't usually hear from all those people that are happy with their C90's. So does anyone know if the C90 is more prone to problems than the G1S, keeping in mind that I have no intention of overclocking?

I was originally looking at the E6700 processor with 3GB RAM but after reading this forum I am thinking of reducing the RAM to only 2GB. I am open to any suggestions and feedback that anyone wants to submit and I would also like to thank everyone who has contributed to this site because it is great.....Thanks in advance.

 

I use mine at school every day, and i am one of the lucky ones with no problems. The c90s do dot get serviced from the asus centers, but from the dealer you bought it from. Gentech was fast with my lemon gfx card.

 

if you consider asus; like the asian dell;(somebody said that before i) i doubt you would have issues that people with computers dont have. but about the rma issues; if you buy it where you are the warranty the same : no? but the g1s seem coo; i believe its the same screen, i dont have gl1 tho. i would settle for something like the asus or the sager for where you are; but then again im sure there are rusian firms making pc's.

 

Well, as earlier advised by Ichigo, if ur not from the US, its not really advisable to purchase online unless ur really willing to spend more and take the risk if there should be something wrong with it. The c90 is a good and cheap laptop for its price... but i STRESS that there's a SIGNIFICANT number of people with problems with it. So given ur requirements, I think its better if you go with the ASUS ensemble units , which has a worlwide 2 year warranty. ( since u dont need the overclocking ability of the c90, y spend and take the risk ? )