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    K53TA.. The best deal ever... could be!

    Discussion in 'Asus' started by UnXpectedError, Aug 8, 2011.

  1. HTWingNut

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    Monitor HWInfo and the core performance. Over 80C you will probably see the cores start to "spike" down to like 800 or 1200 MHz then back up to your P0 state. If this is the case the CPU is throttling because it's being pushed too hard regardless of temperature.
     
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    :eek:

    Benchmark it also :cool:
     
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    Seems no matter how high I go it just won't go over 80 degrees. Something has got to be wrong but it just doesn't seem like a whole lot of hot air coming from the cpu exhaust. I will see if I can post some screen shots and maybe someone can tell me what is happening. Maybe I just don't have a clue to what I am doing.
     
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    Going to run some benchmarks now. Will see what happens. I assume passmark performance test 7 is okay to use.
     

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  5. link626

    link626 Asus GL502VM, Lenovo Y580, Asus K53TA

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    offplanet got me motivated to OC mine again.

    I have found a quick way to determine if your OC is unstable-
    run cinebench 11.5 64bit. If it's unstable, it will crash in the middle of rendering.
    so if you think yours is stable, it may not be. Run cinebench 11.5 and find out.

    anyway, I OC'd mine to 2.4ghz, and it requires no less than 1.1625v, or else cinebench will crash.

    at 2.4ghz, multithread performance matches core i5-2410m exactly.

    A6 single thread performance still sucks donkey balls though.

    clock for clock, in single thread, the A6 took 12% more time to complete mp3 encoding than a core2duo clocked at the same speed. apples to apples.
    my intel c2d-based laptop completed the task in 495 seconds. the A6 took 555 sec.
    In other single thread benchmarks, it wins some, it loses some. And that intel chip is 3 generations old.

    sandy bridge widens the single thread gap tremendously. You now need a 3ghz amd to catch up with a 2ghz sandy bridge in single thread tasks.
     
  6. offplanet

    offplanet Notebook Enthusiast

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    CINEBENCH 11.5
    One little glitch in OpenGL when it starts but I believe it might be a driver as I had same problem at stock clocks and voltage. Other than that I had no lockups or freezes. Everything was smooth as glass. Still can't figure out if this laptop is playing my games this well or just my imagination.
     

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    runtohell121 Notebook Deity

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    Seems you should be getting more in 3dmark 11 my run at 2.6ghz was p1680 stock it runs about p1550 :confused:
     
  9. offplanet

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    Can't seem to get the drivers figured out for the A8. Scores aren't that great but the games fly like hell. Only take 5 minutes to change cpu back to A6. Maybe I will switch back real quick and see if the is any major differences in my bench scores as opposed to actual gaming.
     
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    Well you made a good point there you can not play a benchmark :)

    I am thinking with HTWingnuts logic, although it is running at 3ghz it does not like it and throttles back. Now if you set p1 the exact same as B0 the speed of the cpu will not fluctuate in cpuz. But again HTWingnut pointed out throttling is probably still occurring.
     
  12. offplanet

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    I have 3 programs running to show my cpu clock when I am doing testing. It never drops below 2.8 if that means anything at all.
     
  13. arrowslinger

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    Run some benches with both since it is so easy to change :)

    3Dmark06
    3DmarkVantage

    Heaven 2.5

    The apus are showing up in 3DMark results page so you can do some comparisons.
     
  14. link626

    link626 Asus GL502VM, Lenovo Y580, Asus K53TA

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    2.08 score is low for an OC'd cpu. that looks like stock clock.

    at 2.4ghz, mine gets 2.78.
     
  15. offplanet

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    Having some trouble folks, messed around with drivers from amd instead of asus and now all benchmarks are showing 3 gpu's. Have tried everything to fix it but no go. Going to restore from acronis and give it another shot. Any idea's on the 3 gpu's. Thanks.
     
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    That may be a glitch mine shows the same.
     
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    bschrib Notebook Guru

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    Where are you seeing three GPU's? I seem to remember that I had encountered that on my A8-3530MX at some point too but I can't find it listed as such anywhere.

    In addition if anyone could put an answer to HWInfo64 vs. CPU-ID -- CPU ID shows that my CPU jumps to 3.1GHz as it's supposed to when I'm running Furmark + Prime95 + Intel Burn Test, however HWInfo64 is showing all four cores only go up to 1.7GHz.. Is this a matter of effective speed or something?
     
  18. offplanet

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    Wheels came off!
    (3DMARK06 = Processor is not recognnized) (3DMARK VANTAGE = 3gpu's) (Heaven-2.5 = not recognizing overclocking) I must have a driver problem for sure. Tried hp dvz drivers for A8-3530MX and got can't install drivers. Going backwards fast.
     
  19. bschrib

    bschrib Notebook Guru

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    Ok -- I've run some benchmarks and am uploading anything that is relevant which I can think of. Below are the K10Stats settings, the HWInfo64 data, the Futuremark11 benchmark link (P1612), and last but not least the data from AMD System Monitor recording. As you can see in the data the CPU seems to be running at at weird speeds, and it's questionable as to if the dedicated GPU is running on all cylinders.

    Any paragon of notebookreview who cares to help figure out what the sticking point is would be greatly appreciated.

    The .CSV file starts from the moment I began the benchmark with the loading pane up and ends after I'm dumped to the web page with results.

    [​IMG] [​IMG]
    P1612 on futuremark11
    Data from AMD System Monitor
     
  20. gumba213

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    Uninstall AMD software via Add/Remove programs.
    Restart in safe mode F8 then run driver sweeper
    After that run CCleaners Registry Cleaner twice.
    Reboot and reinstall Asus drivers
     
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    I seem to get a wide range of battery life with the same settings. Today I'm getting 4.5 hrs with wifi on, web browsing and doc editing. Last week I was getting about 2.5 hrs doing the same thing, same power profile and undervolts.
     
  22. offplanet

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    Thanks gumba213 already did new win 7 x64 install and loaded asus drivers. Getting ready to overclock and run benchmarks. No need to leave the house when I can have this much fun at home.
     
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    bschrib Notebook Guru

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    Cycled through a few sets of drivers, nothing seems to have any impact on performance. Still getting poor results. Could someone please do me a favor and confirm if HWInfo64 says the core speeds are matching what CPUID reads? (e.g. 2.3GHz in both) I would really appreciate it.

    I just feel like offplanet was on to something earlier about the temps -- I had K10stats set to OC to 3.7GHz.. Ran through only Intel Burn Test for 5 passes, and max temp was only 76C (room temp 21C), and my score for burn test was 48-50 seconds, 18.3-18.7 GFlops. All the while HWInfo is reporting max core speeds are 1730.
     
  24. offplanet

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    Same problem bschrib. Some of the benchmark programs seem to be ignoring the overclocking. Maybe I will try to find something besides K10STAT to OC and see if that does anything.
     
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    couldn't find this in the config file

    "Enable Unofficial Overclocking EULA
     
  26. bschrib

    bschrib Notebook Guru

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    Found that witteks has put together an OC tool based on PhenomMsrTweaker for the Llano CPU's -- fusiontweaker - Tool for undervolting/clocking Lynx (Llano) platform APU's - Google Project Hosting

    Found it in the dv6z forum :D http://forum.notebookreview.com/hp-...xxx-series-owners-lounge-286.html#post7917987

    EDIT: no real change for me, http://3dmark.com/3dm11/1873480. sigh. Back to the drawing board, more play later.
     
  27. offplanet

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    Nice find, going to give it a whirl right now. And by the way I couldn't find that enable official overclocking eula in the .cfg file either.
     
  28. HTWingNut

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    MSI Afterburner config file:
    HOW TO: Enable UNOFFICIAL overclocking mode in MSI AfterBurner - Guru3D.com Forums

    " You need to alter the following:

    Seek UnofficialOverclockingEULA field and add following text:
    I confirm that I am aware of unofficial overclocking limitations and fully understand that MSI will not provide me any support on it

    Set UnofficialOverclockingMode to 1 to keep PowerPlay active (may not work on old ASICs), 2 to traditionally disable PowerPlay or to 0 to temporary disable unofficial overclocking path
    "
     
  29. offplanet

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    Thanks HTWingNut I got it. Man you sure stay on top of it.
     
  30. link626

    link626 Asus GL502VM, Lenovo Y580, Asus K53TA

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    All results are run on stock hardware, no overclock of anything, with the stock 4GB of RAM. I just did a fresh install of Win7 SP1 Home Premium and installed my usual software, turned off pidgin and rainmeter for the test. Running using V8.861 chipset drivers and 207 BIOS.

    AMD Radeon HD 6750M video card benchmark result - AMD A6-3400M APU with Radeon(tm) HD Graphics,ASUSTeK Computer Inc. K53TA score: 6731 3DMarks
    3DMark06 = 6731 3DMarks

    http://3dmark.com/3dm11/1873808?show_ads=true&page=/3dm11/1873808?key=hC3Uj3ZpzYe6Css93SMARQUutjbc4d
    3DMark11 = P1398 3DMarks

    http://3dmark.com/3dmv/3497952?show_ads=true&page=/3dmv/3497952?key=Qh8rcuEuFdtaxcYxfLJHZB0wBcV3w2
    3DMarkVantage = P3792 3DMarks

    http://www.ozone3d.net/benchmarks/furmark_score_190.php?id=209762
    FurMark = 235 points (3 FPS)

    CineBench 11.5
    CPU = 1.79
    OpenGL = 13.49
     
  32. offplanet

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    I guess I am getting somewhere. Still shows 3 gpu's.
     

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    Just for the record, 3DMark06 will suck because DirectX 9 support is marginal at best. DirectX 10 and 11 is where it will show best performance.
     
  34. arrowslinger

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    Mine and Calvins side by side


    Result

    Shows his as 4 cards mine 3 and look at the clock speeds of the gpu's?

    Are the apus touchy with this overclocking?

    3dmark glitch?
     
  35. HTWingNut

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    Glitch. It calls it a 6750m too when it's a 6650m.
     
  36. offplanet

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    Finally got my cpu to show at 3.2 in 3DMARK11. I was just about to take a hammer to it and start working on my hp A8.
     

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    sound isn't coming through my hdmi anyone know why? I removed all the asus software
     
  38. offplanet

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    I think the hdmi drivers are in the ati drivers found in asus chipset drivers. You could also go to control panel and click on sound to see if hdmi is a option in there.
     
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    Found the fix, you need to disable High Definition Audio Device in the Device Manager
     
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    Any chance of getting the link to that score so we can see the rest of it, like CPU score etc?
     
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    Yuck. The European K53TA just released. Get this, it has an A4 instead of an A6 and goes for 499 Euros (just under $700 US). Sorry to all of you on that side of the pond.

    Even worse some reviews have mistakenly reported the 6480g and 6650m of being capable of dual-graphics, but according to AMD's charts this is not the case. So not only do you get half the CPU with the Euro version, but you lose the option of Dual Graphics for the games that do benefit from it.
     
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    That physics score seems awfully low for 3ghz
     
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    The new asus chipset drivers are out btw if anyone was wondering
     
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    Thanks for the heads up.
     
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    Your welcome :)
    I'll see if they're better then the last ones on games, but I don't think I'm gonna see much improvement... but we'll see :cool:
     
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    The new chipset download only shows up for me under the K43TA downloads, not there yet in the K53TA list. Same download, just FYI if you can't find it.
     
  48. saturnotaku

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    I just looked and they're available under the K53TA heading as well.
     
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    thank you ASUS, making me a proud owner
     
  50. HTWingNut

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    Still wondering when K43TA will be available.
     
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