K53TA.. The best deal ever... could be!

And the verdict is... they're just the 11.9 drivers which seem to offer no benefits over 11.8. I tested Deus Ex, Dead Island, WoW, Alice 2, Crysis 2, Portal 2. All exactly the same performance. Only difference I've noticed is that since CAP4, Dead Island works perfectly in Crossfire, though it performs no better than the 6650 alone.

 

LOL. I'm finding that as well, in general Xfire makes little to no difference in performance except in benchmarks. Major fail!

 

Except in RIFT strangely enough. RIFT is supposed to be the first MMO native to DX11. Translation: RIFT is the worst optimized MMO ever and likes or dislikes your hardware at random even if you have DX11 compatible setup. In this case you get something like 10-15 extra fps in Crossfire. I have no idea why.

Also I just burned a DVD and wow, that drive is noisy. Normally I never use disc based media (what am I, a f*cking caveman?), so I hadn't actually put a disk in my K53TA until now. Doubtful I'll ever need to again, but hey, my flashdrive was full and somebody needed some shows.

 

I'm trying to take off the keyboard to shake off some dust that got under a key and it's proving to be a bit of a bother. I have no tweezers but I got all but one of the latches off using my license. Any tips?

 

what did I tell you bro, but my question is, what gpu are these games using, the dedicated or the integrated one??? I assumed it was the integrated chip but as I increased CPU core speeds I didnt notice much of a difference in gaming performance which makes me think maybe just the dedicated card is working, I am confused

 

i get about 20-25 fps in jp TERA without crossfire (2.3ghz, 700/1000)

with it i seem to get 5-7 fps increase, which is nice actually..

 

Same here, games are running just about the same at 3.2 as they are at 2.6. Going nuts trying to figure out the deal with the gpus. Tried calling ATI but after 2 hours on hold I just gave up.

 

I think we've established that 2.6 is the limit of effective OCing. My guess is that with this size cache and FSB speed that is the max the HyperTransport can carry.

 

He has a 3530...

BTW here is my 3DMark11, physics score is 3123 @2.8GHz

The 3530MX is 2490 @ 3.2

What's the deal?

 

that just shows that the games you are running are gpu limited.
i don't know why you're going nuts, since this is a midrange card. I hope you're not expecting 60 fps in games.

amd system monitor easily gives you the answer which gpu it is using.

what about when the 3530mx is at 2.8ghz ?
if the score is getting lower with higher clock speed, then it's throttling.
watch clock speed in cpu-z, and set it on high priority in task mgr while running benchmarks.

do you have the matsh|ta or the lite-on slimtype burner ?

 

I think you may be right. I set task manager on high and bumped clock up to 3.4. Dual graphics shows HD 6740G2. No huge differences from running at 2.6.
AMD Radeon HD 6750M video card benchmark result - AMD A8-3530MX APU with Radeon(tm) HD Graphics,ASUSTeK Computer Inc. K53TA score: P1608 3DMarks. Is it to early to start drinking on the east coast.

 

Better to use HWInfo32/64 because it will give real-time updates of speed of each core. CPU-Z updates infrequently, and sometimes I have to switch tabs and back to main to get it to display proper speed. Plus HWInfo will show each core so you can see if one core is being taxed more than others.

 

I have a strange question. Has Asus somehow locked the bios or something else to keep me from updating ati drivers from ati.

 

I am almost tired of benching locking mine down here and forgetting it until I do another major change. Running nice at 2.4

AMD Radeon HD 6750M video card benchmark result - AMD A6-3400M APU with Radeon(tm) HD Graphics,ASUSTeK Computer Inc. K53TA score: P1668 3DMarks

 

I have only had my K53TA for 4 days. I am thinking about a best buy return or just selling. I have 3 other Asus gaming laptops so this is basically just a test toy to me. Manager already gave me green light to return if I couldn't get it working up to what I thought it was capable of. Just need to put back original cpu and pull a ram chip. Have basically got nothing out of 4 days of hacking.

 

Offplanet...since benches seem to not show an improvement, and even a drop in performanve comparimg my a6 to your a8 in 3dmark11, have you dome any direct fps comparisons in gamea vs your stock a6?

Btw can anyone o/c latest asus gpu drivers?

 

I have tried the a6 and both a8-3510mx and a8-3530mx. When I set the 3530mx to 2.7 and drop voltage to 1.0625 I can tell that is where battlefield-2, Deus Ex, and Crysis-2 all play extremely well for me. So I would say without really understanding what's going on with this apu that 3530mx plays games the best at almost stock clock and undervolted. I am throwing benchmarks out the window for now untill I figure out the apu.

 

Is the difference in gaming performance worth the cost of the upgrade?

 

I don't know just yet. I have just put the a6 back in, I will run it through all the same test and let you know. I am kind of worried about the 3DMARK11 as it keeps showing errors at the top. Don't know if it is the software can't handle the new apu yet. Have you seen this at the top of your test scores. (Your result has the following problem(s) and will not be shown for example on leaderboards:: Processor is not recognized, Graphics driver is not approved. (What is this?)

 

Yes mine says the same things at the top. I am interested if this will run a desktop APU as well, since I'm not too worried about battery life.

 

No, desktop is fm1 socket and mobile a6 is fs1 socket. Desktop won't fit mobile socket but damn nice try.

 

Awww

Oh well. I await your feedback on whether the A8 is worth the dough.

 

If that were not the case, I wonder what kind of temps you'd get on a 100W CPU in a laptop.

Speaking of which, Newegg just added the full lineup of Llanos to their listings. Including What-what-WHAT a quad-core Athlon II. That's right boys and girls, you wanted your Llano that doesn't share it's die with a GPU and there it is.

Before anyone asks, it's identical to the A6-3650 but without the Radeon core. Since GPU core is not an issue and it should overclock exactly the same as the A-series, it should be the ultimate Llano until a hexacore comes out.

Thinking of upgrading my Testtop (which I'm considering renaming "The Tarkin" in honor of HTWingnut's naming scheme) to that Athlon. I might just wait for Tom'sHardware to tell me if it's worth it.

AMD Athlon II X4 631 Llano 2.6GHz 4MB L2 Cache Socket FM1 100W Quad-Core Desktop Processor

Holy Batman, there's a triple-core too. I feel like a small child on Christmas morning. Well except a child who's family is poor so I'm just staring in store windows on Christmas morning.

AMD A6-3500 Llano 2.4GHz 3MB L2 Cache Socket FM1 65W Triple-Core Desktop APU

 

Anyone know a good place to buy a spare AC adapter? All the ones I'm seeing so far that claim to be exact replacements are just 65W. The unit that comes in the box is 90W.

 

Try right here. I think this may be as cheap as it's going to get. OEM AC Power Adapter Acer ADP-90CD DB 19v 4.74a 90w New | eBay Sorry about that. I just realized that one is from china. Just search here http://www.ebay.com/sch/i.html?_fro...13&_nkw=ADP-90CD+DB&_sacat=See-All-Categories

 

Good find! Interesting. I'm waiting for Bulldozer, although just updated to a Sandy Bridge this year, but AMD is looking quite promising in general.

I am surprised there's not more machines at $500 with configurations like the K53TA. Obviously a good seller, maybe too good I bet.

 

Just saw cyber power has the Llano's in their configurations now

AMD Gaming PCs

Starting at 575.00

• AMD A6-3650 HD 6530D APU
• 4GB DDR3-PC1600 RAM
• ATI HD 6450 1GB GDDR3 Video
• MSI A75 USB3 & SATA-III MB
• 1TB SATA-III 7200 RPM HD
• 24X DVD+-R/+-RW Drive
• CoolerMaster Elite 430 Gaming Case




And 685.00

• AMD A8-3850 HD 6550D APU
• 8GB DDR3/1600MHz RAM
• ATI HD 6570 1GB GDDR3 Video
• MSI A75 USB3 & SATA-III MB
• 1TB SATA-II 7200 RPM HD
• 24X DVD+-R/+-RW Drive
• CoolerMaster HAF 912 Case

Both you can choose the AMD Fusion APU on board graphics if you wish for a cut of 47.00 to 60.00 each. Or every high end card made of course a AMD Radeon HD 6990 4GB GDDR5 will jack the price up almost 700 bucks

 

Hey HTWingNut 100w cpu in a laptop would be super nice for about 3 seconds before you had to get the fire extinguisher and then call the fire dept.

 

I know that, talking about in a desktop.

 

It always blows me away how bad custom assembly companies are at price/performance. Why not offer all of them with the 3850 as it's only $10 more than the 3650? And why even bother with any card besides the hd6670 as it's the best xfire with the A8? Those shouldn't even be called gaming PCs with GPUs under the x500 mark. In fact, no gaming catalog should even be offering cards below a 6670.

Also, nice new sig Arrowslinger.

 

I agree. I never understood why they config the way they do. It's too bad because customers end up with unoptimized crap.

 

Hi All,

Totally new to the site, but I stumbled across while searching for info on this laptop.

How does this ASUS stack up to the Samsung RV511A01?

Best Buy offers a refurbished Samsung Intel i3 at $450

I'm trying to figure out which laptop would be more future proof and last me a few years.

Stats:

Samsung RV511A01:
Samsung - Factory-Refurbished Laptop / Intel® Core™ i3 Processor / 15.6" Display / 4GB Memory / 500GB Hard Drive - Silver - RV511A01

ASUS:
ASUS - Laptop / AMD A-Series Processor / 15.6" Display / 4GB Memory / 500GB Hard Drive - Brown Suit - K53TA-BBR6

Thoughts?

Thanks in advance

 

The Asus completely blows that Sammy out of the water in every category. The A6 even at stock clocks is a little better than that i3 as they are about equal in single-threaded apps and the AMD is better in multi-threaded apps. Even if you just want to play facebook games, that Intel HD in the Samsung is crap. The 6650 in the Asus is about 3-4 times faster.

Not just saying that as an owner of the Asus, it truly is a higher benchmarking system overall period.

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I've been getting a lot of flack in other forums for the AMD chips in my current rigs. It never ceases to amaze me. You get these kids whose parents buy them computers from a box store and all they can do is repeat what the customer service reps tell them. If my A8+6670 combo can get higher frames than your i5+GTS450, it's a better gaming rig period, regardless of what the Geek Squad believes.

I will likely maintain my view until the end of time that in every price category below $225, there is an AMD part that is overall better than the Intel offering. Anyone who has reasoning why a low-end i5 is better than an 1100T hexa is clearly a moron. Also the old argument of "You should get a crappy Intel, so that you can have the best slot for a future upgrade" is crap. Once again more true of AMD. If you put an A8 in your desktop, you can still max all current games and then you can upgrade to a Bulldozer later which will STILL beat any Intel in it's price bracket. Morons.

 

Thanks and agreed on the above not really being gamer but you can change them all in con-figs but it does raise the price considerably.

 

Awesome, thanks for the help! Totally dropping the funds on it now.

Great forum, I really look forward to being a part of it!

 

HTWingNut I know you talking about desktop cpu. Just making light of a humorous thought about a laptop catching fire as I have actually done it before. Didn't mean to offend anyone. Forum seems to be getting a little off topic on the K53TA laptop so I just kick back and read every now and then. Thanks People.

 

BLUETOOTH: None
CAS: CoolerMaster HAF 912 Mid-Tower Gaming Case w/ Adjustable HDD Cage (Black Color)
CASUPGRADE: None
CD: LG UH12LS28K 12X Blu-Ray Player & DVDRW Combo Drive [+41] (BLACK COLOR)
CD2: None
COOLANT: Standard Coolant
CPU: AMD A8-3850 2.90 GHz Quad-Core APU w/ Integrated Radeon HD 6550D
CS_FAN: Default case fans
FA_HDD: None
FAN: CoolIT ECO II-120 High Performance Liquid Cooling System 120MM Radiator & Fan
FLASHMEDIA: None
FREEBIE_CU1: FREE! Call of Duty: Modern Warfare 2 [+0]
FREEBIE_MB: None
FREEBIE_VC: None
FREEGAME_VC02: None
GLASSES: None
HDD: 1TB SATA-II 3.0Gb/s 16MB Cache 7200RPM HDD (Single Hard Drive)
HDD2: None
IEEE_CARD: None
IUSB: Built-in USB 2.0 Ports
KEYBOARD: None [-4]
MEMORY: 8GB (4GBx2) DDR3/1600MHz Dual Channel Memory Module (Corsair or Major Brand)
MONITOR: None
MONITOR2: None
MONITOR3: None
MOTHERBOARD: [CrossFireX] MSI A75MA-G55 Chipset AMD Dual Graphics Support DDR3 Socket FM1 mATX w/ UEFI Bios, OC Genie, Winki 3 & 7.1 HD Audio, GbLAN, HDMI, USB3.0, SATA-III RAID, 2 Gen2 PCIe X16, 1 PCIe X1 & 1 PCI
MOUSE: None [-3]
MULTIVIEW: Non-SLI/Non-CrossFireX Mode Supports Multiple Monitors
NCSW: None
NETWORK: Onboard Gigabit LAN Network
OS: None - FORMAT HARD DRIVE ONLY [-83]
POWERSUPPLY: 800 Watts - XtremeGear Gaming Power Supply - Quad SLI Ready [+41]
RUSH: NO; READY TO SHIP IN 5~10 BUSINESS DAYS
SERVICE: STANDARD WARRANTY: 3-YEAR LIMITED WARRANTY PLUS LIFE-TIME TECHNICAL SUPPORT
SOUND: HIGH DEFINITION ON-BOARD 7.1 AUDIO
SPEAKERS: None
TEMP: None
TVRC: None
USB: None
USBFLASH: None
USBHD: None
USBX: None
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I may get one of these around Christmas I am past building my own, what would you guys change? I would like to keep it under 1250

I have an Intel Core 2 Duo Processor E8400 OC 3.5Ghz and a Radeon 5870 now as my desktop. I think the above crushes this one?

 

Yeah unfortunately we've pretty much tweaked this thing to the max and there isn't that much new info to share. This thread is now more of a community of people with the same hardware. Although we should in general follow the forum rules and stay on topic, we've developed a tight-knit group here of people interested in the potential of the A-series APUs. I suppose we could find an AMD forum, but I find myself interested in the projects of other users here even if it's on their other rigs.

 

This isn't the best place to ask this, you know.. But, what the heck, I'll bite.

No. The 6870 is slower than the 5870 you have, and the A8 is not the CPU you want. What I would do, is grab an i5-2500K or i7-2600K, 8GB of DDR3, a new P67 motherboard, and another 5870 for Crossfire, as long as your PSU is large enough. That'll be a beast.

 

Thanks ryanlecocq, I guess I am just looking for some extra speed that just isn't there. I bought 3 of these so I guess 2 will go and I will just use one for a toy. Hopefully driver and bios updates will help us in the near future.

 

Has anyone installed the new drivers chipset from the asus website?
Ever since i did the device manager sees my video card as a 6750 not a 6650. Anyone else notice that?

 

^^ Just noticed that also. Weird, also my WEI score went up as a result of the new drivers.

 

Hey all, been looking at this asus for a while, its been frustrating to find. Ive only been able to find it at bestbuy, and for some reason they will only ship to the store, and not to my house. Recently, however, this popped up on newegg:

Newegg.com - ASUS A53 Series A53TA-XN1 Notebook AMD A-Series A6-3400M(1.4GHz) 15.6" 4GB Memory DDR3 1333 500GB HDD 7200rpm DVD Super Multi AMD Radeon HD 6650M

Its says its the "A53TA" instead of the "K53TA", but otherwise it looks to be identical, but 150$ more. Is there something im missing? Is it just more expensive then it is at BB, or is the A somehow different then the K?

 

Have not noticed that as WEI crashes everytime I run it.
but very weird.

 

Its identical to the K53TA, except for the 7200RPM drive. I doubt that's worth the $150 difference.

 

Thanks Emiljan. Now I just have to deal with the hassle of shipping to a bestbuy. AMD is frustrating me a lot lol, I want to support their A series, but so far the only 2 laptops ive found from them that I want to buy are this one, which I can only buy by shipping to store at bestbuy, or the Acer Aspire AS5560G-SB448, which is only available in canada.

I just want a good laptop, why cant it be easy lol?

 

Rumors are Trinity apu will be backwards compatible!!! That's an upgrade i'd like to make 6 months from now!!

 

Predictions: Confirmed. We've been speculating for a while that the K53TA was a test product that Asus and Best Buy partnered on to test market reaction to a cheap gaming-friendly laptop. We were kind of expecting a similar, more expensive model to show up once stock ran out.

AMD is usually highly backwards compatible. The Bulldozer chips (if they ever release) are supposed to fit AM3 and the Trinity FM2/FS2 will hopefully fit the Llano FM1/FS1 slot as well.

 

Thanks Ryan, that kind of makes sense. Too bad they didnt put a better webcam in it

Maybe the display is a little better...

 

How does this laptop:

Newegg.com - Acer Aspire AS5750G-6496 Notebook Intel Core i5 2410M(2.30GHz) 15.6" 4GB Memory DDR3 1066 500GB HDD 5400rpm DVD Super Multi NVIDIA GeForce GT 540M

Stack up against the K53/A53?