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    K53TA.. The best deal ever... could be!

    Discussion in 'Asus' started by UnXpectedError, Aug 8, 2011.

  1. HTWingNut

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    Are you using K10stat? That should allow you to run CPU at whatever speed you wish. As far as GPU, not sure what Asus does with the GPU on battery, they may gimp it.

    Personally, on battery, I just use my IGP because usually it's plenty powerful for most games if I can just accept a lower framerate and perhaps a little less detail. Otherwise it's quite powerful. I just ran Bad Company 2 at 1080p (on my HP DV6z) with the IGP at avg 30-32FPS, range 25-40. Plus you know your system can handle that load and don't risk it shutting down due to lack of power from the battery.
     
  2. link626

    link626 Asus GL502VM, Lenovo Y580, Asus K53TA

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    turbo core doesn't work worth a damn on the llano.
    if you ever try single thread items, it never keeps at 2.3ghz.


    I wish there were a bios option to disable cores. I wonder what kind of battery savings I'd get, since I don't usually use high power apps, and dual core suffices.
    You could probably make this ultra low voltage with just 2 cores.

    I think we should all request extra features from asus.
    There are a lot of features asus adds to their DESKTOP mobos.
    They could easily add them to these laptop bioses too.
     
  3. 408Cali

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    +1 rep for being a cool dude. But I have a k53sv and I love it. They renamed it from a53s by the way.
     
  4. HTWingNut

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    Just go into msconfig, boot tab, advanced, and set number of cores there and reboot. Done.

    But I doubt it would make much difference in battery life because when you're not doing much, the CPU idle of a quad core is about same as that as a dual core. Plus you can always set a profile in K10stat for slower performing and lower voltage cores so it peaks at like 1.2GHz or something.

    I tried disabling two cores (ok four threads) on an i7-2630QM and battery life improved like 2 minutes, which is well within margin of error anyhow.
     
  5. Bigpulse007

    Bigpulse007 Newbie

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    I basically learned to overclock/undervolt from reading this thread so I am by no means an expert. But this is what I've found to be a really nice setup.
    Untitled-1.jpg

    I originally ran Intelburn multiple times on each P-state individually but with lower slightly lower voltages and found each state to be completely stable. The temperate never went over ~65 degrees. Idle was ~34 degrees. Then I ran each P-state through 3DMark11 and got the BSOD during the physics test on P0, P1, and P2 so I raised the voltages one tick for each P-state. Now I am able to run all states completely. The highest 3DMark11 score I got was P1615 at P0 2.0ghz, B0 2.3ghz. The additional voltage didn't cause the temperature to rise more than a degree or 2.

    In case anyone is wondering about Battlefield 3, I played the beta with this setup and the FPS never dropped below 30 while playing the Caspian Border map. I know a lot of people will say that 30fps is unplayable or whatever but when I didn't have FRAPS on I never felt like the game wasn't smooth enough to play. I always got better performance with crossfire off for some reason. I am using the 11.10 preview video drivers. Also, other than the K10stat profile I posted, the only changes I've made to this laptop is I added 4gigs of gskill RAM.

    EDIT: I want to be clear that I'm not trying to say that this setup is the best for performance. Plenty of people have pushed this laptop much further. But I feel like this setup gives me a great balance between performance and super cool temperatures. While playing BF3 I never saw the temperature go above 67 degrees (measured using HWinfo64)
     
  6. mknecht01

    mknecht01 Newbie

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    UnXpectedError: your image links are broken, can you repost your K10stat settings with voltages? My hard drive died, had to rebuild from scratch, and I didn't write any of those settings down, expecting I could just find them here again.

    Thanks!
     
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    arrowslinger Notebook Consultant

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    I'd recommend running Prime95 instead of IntelBurnTest. It will tax it harder and has also found stability issues that weren't present in IntelBurnTest.

    Also, no need to run it every day. Better to do a 12 to 24 burn-in to test for stability, then you know you're good. Just start it before bed and then check it when you get up in the morning. Usually 2-4 hours is more than adequate for ensuring a stable machine.
     
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    Will give it a run tonight after work thanks.
     
  10. arrowslinger

    arrowslinger Notebook Consultant

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    HTWingNut

    Can the bottom be taken off without major dis assembly?

    I would love to take my tiny dremel bit and drill small holes across the bottom for more cooling.
     
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    alxgom Newbie

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    Please let me know as soon as you can, i'm going to florida next friday and i need to know if i should look for another deal. besides there's the shipping time.

    thanks a lot anyway, i really loved all i read about this laptop.

    Also: i've seen some cool deals in tigerdirect in Desktops with the new AMD bulldozer. maybe you are interested.
     
  12. Gintoki

    Gintoki Notebook Prophet

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    I run plugged in all the time, and I get outstanding performance in the 3 games I play and all my applications run well. Would I want to overclock/undervolt? I really don't want to shorten to life of my system, this is supposed to last me at least 4 years.
    I don't know what you consider to ber major disassembly but it shouldn't be a problem. Use gumba's guide. http://forum.notebookreview.com/asus/608772-k53ta-bbr6-cooling-mods.html
     
  13. HTWingNut

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    You wouldn't shorten the span of anything. Undervolting will HELP if anything. It will run cooler and require less power. You can run much faster than stock at even a less voltage than stock!

    Even overclocking your GPU a bit wouldn't hurt anything either except improve performance. Temps may go up a bit , but spend a bit of time and find that "sweet spot" where temps don't rise that much but have a decent overclock. Even 10% is better than 0%.
     
  14. Kukri

    Kukri Notebook Consultant

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    You guys overclock the dedicated gpu, not the 6520, right?
     
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    Correct. No way to overclock the IGP that I know of. Would be nice!
     
  16. Seroson

    Seroson Notebook Enthusiast

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    So I'm assuming there is no way to get this for the 450 price tag anymore eh?
     
  17. HTWingNut

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    Nope, unfortunately, good luck finding it at all.
     
  18. Seroson

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    That sucks. Is there any laptop in the same price range that can do the same or better? I've been eye balling this for a while, but I guess I waited too long.
     
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    Seroson Notebook Enthusiast

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    Currently I have the HP DV7, and it's been kind of a burden. I ordered mine right before the Tsunamis that happened in Japan. The laptop came to me with a broken webcam, less ram, the wrong video card, and A huge weld mark on the frame. They told me they wouldn't be able to accept my return until a month after, then told me that they wouldn't be able to accept me because it wasn't within the 30 days. So kinda Iffy on HP
     
  21. Gintoki

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    My main concern is will I really see a significant rise in performance by overclocking and undervolting? I like the fact that it would run cooler and require less power but would I see a difference in Firefox's performance? I've never overclocked in my life and I'm a little hesitant.

    You should get on the phone and send emails and generally bother them until they take it back, that's despicable.
     
  22. Kukri

    Kukri Notebook Consultant

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    Overclocking is what makes the cpu comparable to an i5. Before overclocking it's trying to compete with an i3. IOW, overclock it and you'll see the difference ;).
     
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    Seroson Notebook Enthusiast

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    I've been calling them but the problem is that they put me on hold for sometimes up to three hours. Really killed it for me.
     
  24. HTWingNut

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    Think about it as more horsepower with better gas mileage.
     
  25. gumba213

    gumba213 Notebook Consultant

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    the difference between 1.4GHz and what I run all day 2.3GHz is a world of difference in terms of performance. There's no real reason not to overclock, only time to worry would be during gaming under excessive overload, but even then the chips now are designed to throttle down, there is little to no downside to overclocking your CPU, no offense but you'd be an idiot not to...
     
  26. Gintoki

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    Okay, okay. You guys convinced me. I'll overclock and undervolt to what HTWingNut suggested, the 2.0GHz mark where I can use the same amount of power as I am using now and get more performance. I'll also set up a lower power profile for when I leave my notebook on at night playing music to help me sleep. With the little free time I have, I should have everything done before the end of the month, and I'll need help from you guys to get it right, as search isn't working.
     
  27. zinfandel

    zinfandel Notebook Consultant

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    Well, since I missed the $18 memeory deals and I kept thingking I want to match the sticks exactly I persevered and found the exact same stick at SuperBiiz.com for $28. They ad free shipping and $5 off if I spent $30 so i bought something else I needed making this a $23 deal. Came today, I was worried it would be some other Samsung but it is M471B5273DH0-CH9.
    Came in 5 days by USPS, non-retail packaging but in small plastic tray

    I now have to send it to my son, as he has the laptop. I'll see how the WE scores compare.
     
  28. Thomas1990

    Thomas1990 Newbie

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    Hi all i'm new :) ... I've bought this beautiful laptop about 2 months ago.. I OC'd the cpu till 3ghz and the results are awesome.. But I try to install new ati's driver.. But i can't install because appear that the hw or sw is incompatible :S but I have selected the right driver and I try too with the auto update but appear the same message.. How can I do?

    Sorry for my bad english but I'm italian :p
     
  29. gumba213

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    this isn't rocket science, its really simple actually, use this setup, you won't have any issues with overheating. The only time you will have any issue with overheating is during heavy gaming... using all the computers resources at once, and it's simple to monitor using HWMonitor... make sure cpu core temps don't exceed 80C as the computer naturally throttles downs cpu speed to remain below this level. these computers have built in monitoring sensors and adjust speed so to not overheat... the idea here is to try and reach 79C by OC and undervolting and getting the max amount of power manually before the AMD auto-speed/temp- controller kicks in. anyone can do this with a little guidance... give it a whirl worse case you get BSOD which doesn't effect your computer at all, just a pain to have to restart thats all. have fun

    [​IMG]
     
  30. MaxHunter

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    Here's a K10 stat question. I've overclocked at 2.8/3.0 with higher voltage than you guys (I've since lowered them and found some more lower stable voltz). However earlier today I was playing EA Tiger Woods and found my Temps in K10stat's Info window, Tctl to be hovering around 90 degrees. Can this be correct? Or is this not taking accurate temps. If so, then my computer did not throttle down as some of you are experiencing.
     
  31. Gintoki

    Gintoki Notebook Prophet

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    I hope you guys know about Prey. It's like a free and open source lojack. If you don't know, open source means you can look through the source code, the instructions for the program, to make sure it's not doing anything suspicious if you want to. It took me less than 5 minutes to set it up.

    How to Track and (Potentially) Recover Your Stolen Laptop or Android with Prey

    How I Got My Stolen Laptop Back Within 24 Hours Using Prey

    Man tracks stolen laptop hundreds of miles away, calls thief - storify.com

    Install Coretemp and check the temperature it reports there. Core Temp
     
  32. HTWingNut

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    I read earlier that a member successfully installed a Bigfoot 1102 wireless card.

    I tried installing an Intel 6230 and the machine won't boot. The BIOS doesn't even appear; powering on shows only a black/blank screen.

    FWIW, my son has the same laptop and tried the same model Intel card and produced the same result. Is this laptop's BIOS whitelisted? Has anyone successfully upgraded their wireless card other than the one earlier poster?
     
  34. link626

    link626 Asus GL502VM, Lenovo Y580, Asus K53TA

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    interesting. it must be whitelisted.

    the bigfoot is also an atheros card, so it would be expected to work.

    maybe you can get someone to mod the bios file
     
  35. solitario07777

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    hi sorry i cant find a forum on AMD A6 laptops. I bought a Toshiba L755D-S5279. You think I can overclock it just like the Asus. Thank you for your answer.
     
  36. solitario07777

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    Of course the problem is that I find a forum on Toshiba A6, are almost the same characteristics as the Asus K53
     
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    I think you should just use coretemp and set it to shut down at 85 degrees so you can't burn up you laptop, and then play with the settings in K10 until you find something comfy for you. You probrably can't use the exact same settings as the Asus because the Toshiba is surely going to have a different internal cooling setup, but you can most likely get close.
     
  38. anabolina

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    This is an awesome laptop and I love everything about it except for the absurd boot times out of sleep. Is anyone else noticing that it takes forever to emerge from sleep?

    Mine is still stock so it's only got 4 gb of ram and the 5200 rpm hd, but the amount of time it takes to start is longer than on any netbook, laptop, or desktop I've owned in the last 5 years. I finally got around to trying to discover why tonight and found that it might be the atkosd2 causing it to boot slowly. That was the only one that showed up in the Action Center. I then looked at the Event Viewer and it's logging 3 errors every time I boot from sleep. (Definitely better than before I deleted most of the bloatware when it was logging 7 errors at a time.) The thing is that it's usually a different 3 errors every time.

    I know I should have deleted more of the Asus crapware than I did, but I like the hotkeys and the animations and didn't want to lose them :-( If I delete atkosd2, the hot keys will no longer work, right. What about fastboot? Can I safely delete it without harming anything?

    Thanks in advance for any help :)
     
  39. Kukri

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    Good points there. This laptop is definitely slow to boot with the stock software. I'd also be apprehensive about getting rid of the animations and hotkeys in order to speed it up. I use the hotkeys quite a bit.
     
  40. saturnotaku

    saturnotaku Notebook Nobel Laureate

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    I have no problems with the system resuming from sleep with the hotkey drivers installed. A clean Windows install really is best on this machine, along with upgrading to at least a 7200 RPM hard drive. A 500 GB model can be had for $60-70, sometimes less if you catch a good sale.
     
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    Thanks for the replies kukri and saturnotaku. Getting rid of fast boot makes it boot much faster. Now I don't stare at it while it's booting and wonder what's taking so long.

    I really should put my old 7200 rpm HD from my old laptop into this one. Right now is just chilling in a hd enclosure, but I've been a bit lazy :).
     
  42. Kukri

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    What does fast boot do?
     
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    WOW! I had used some others K10 settings and mostly got BSOD

    I had the screwdriver and dremel out when I decided to check the forums.

    With my older settings the game I play mostly after about an hour would reach 82c not to bad.

    This setting last night I played for an hour and never got to 78C

    THANKS!!!
     
  44. Gintoki

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    In laymen's terms, if you want Windows to boot up faster, you can use fast boot to delay e.g MSN Messenger. Unless you feel like keeping it, I don't recommend keeping it, as you can do the same by hand if ever felt like it and honestly it only takes off 0.001 seconds off your boot time.

    * http://forum.notebookreview.com/asus/380681-asus-utility-bloatware-guide.html
     
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    Glad this worked for you, what games are you playing???
     
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    I only play one anymore regular theHunter :)
     
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    The Intel WiFi Link 5300 AGN works in my K53TA with only one problem. The machine wil shut down but the power doesn't shut off. I have to push the power button, but no problems booting back up. The laptop shuts all the way down except for the power so there's no corruption of files. The WiFi card runs flawless at 300mbps and never drops a signal. The trade off works fine for me since I don't mind finishing off the shut down by hitting the power button and I get super fast downloads.
     
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    Did anyone have any success with BF3 on this laptop?
     
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    May i ask, how much usable main memory left out of 4 Gb for you ppl. for me a whooping 1.8 Gb is hardware reserved. On bios 207

    And why the dGpu 6650M is Under performing? I am getting 32 fps on cpu benchmark of Crysis and 39 fps on Gpu benchmark while all set to medium detail irrespective of resolution - On stock clock and driver version 8.861- CF off.
     
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