K53TA.. The best deal ever... could be!

Yes. Playing at 1366x768, FPS ranges from 30-40 FPS with everything on low except Textures (set at High) in Crossfire, with CPU @ 2.4 Ghz.

I'm guessing overclocking is still broken in 10.11 Preview 3? :\

 

drivers? .

 

Ahh man, now I dont know if I should get BF3 for this or the PS3 =\

 

I'm playing BF3 on this using the 11.10 previews along with the 11.9 CAP 3's but gameplay is choppy and laggy -- definitely less than 30 FPS most of the time.

Disgustipated, could you give me a screenshot of the settings you are using to overclock to 2.4, if it is stable? Do I just copy them directly in my settings in k10stat? Sorry, I'm a noob to overclocking lol, and would like to play BF3 smoothly.

 

how did you get 1.8gb reserved?

I've been trying to see if the 6520g could use more than 512mb reserved.

I have 8gb ram.




as for BF3, I'm running it just fine, textures on high, everything else mostly on medium, with AA turned off.
runs pretty smooth with these settings.

i'm using driver 8.892.3.0.
I think these were the beta drivers AMD released.

 

No Idea but its really sucks this model came with 2 gb stick and win 7 32 bit, where is shows 1.48 gb usable 512 mb for 6520g IGP.
I went for another 2Gb stick and now the usable ram goes to 2.24
Seems happen to me only
i will try reformat or else 64 bit Win 7
Edit: Yea 64 bit does the trick.

 

who here has an A4-3300m version K53/A53TA ?

I see that the A4 version does not have crossfire, and runs only the 6650m graphics.

do openGL apps still run on the igp, or the 6650m ?

 

So, now that the requirements for Skyrim are out, how well do people think this laptop will be able to play it? I'm thinking Medium settings?

 

Are you using crossfire or just the 6650m? BF3 beta was playable for me on my A8-3510MX in crossfire with my 6750m, but now I have to only use the 6750m, no crossfire, otherwise it's choppy again.

You can turn on in-game fps by pressing ~ to open the console then type: render.drawfps true

 

I'm having the same problem. If I enable crossfire it's choppy. I did a clean install of the newest release drivers and cap profiles so I don't know what the problem is. Luckily it plays very smooth on medium using only the 6650m.

HTWingNut, do you think it's possible that BF3 runs better using only a dedicated graphics processor because the APU is running more efficiently handling only the CPU functions?

 

I believe the CAP is the problem with the preview 3 drivers. Hardocp writes about this
HARDOCP - Single Player Performance Preview - Battlefield 3 Preview Performance Preview
Although I did not think I installed the CAP and it is running poorly for me in crossfire

 

I think that a bit because BF3 is such a CPU intensive game. Although in the beta I did gain a solid 5-8FPS improvement using crossfire and it was smooth. So not sure what happened. If you're using K10Stat setting it to ganged based on highest core may help a bit, by not letting up resources to the IGP when it's intensely being taxed. That's just theory though, maybe I'll try it.

EDIT: Hmm, a couple things. I set CPU to ganged based on highest load core in K10stat. Also, I enabled triple buffering in BF3. To do this, press ~ for console, then type: RenderDevice.TripleBufferingEnable 1
and it seemed to run a lot smoother while giving me a slight boost in fps.

Yeah, I installed preview 3 drivers and with cap, without cap, same result. I just hope AMD gets their act together. Final release 11.10's should be released any day. Let's hope they address the issue.

 

When you say you enabled triple buffering and got a boost, was this with crossfire enabled?

 

Well it helped with stuttering with crossfire enabled.

Also I uninstalled CAP 3 and installed CAP 2 and that seemed to help too.

 

I try to play a flac file through HDMI with 176.4khz/24bit stereo and this frequency its not available in the sound device manager.
The only available are 96khz/24bit and 192khz/24bit.Is this an amd driver problem,there should be listed all standard frequencies.

Also all this process is manual,you have to select the right frequency all the time.Is possible to select automatically which frequency the laptop plays?

This laptop passes the bitsteam Dolby trueHD and DTS-Hd,how about LPCM 7.1 channel?Can we play a video game in 5.1 LPCM through HDMI,because it doesnt work now - stereo only?Only the PowerDVD sends 5.1 LPCM out.

Any help would be great

 

^^^ audio is Realtek problem. not amd.

 

If it's going through HDMI then it's an AMD problem. Audio is processed by the AMD chip then.

 

If anyone is wondering about BF3 here's what I've found so far.

The 10.11 CAP3 and CAP4 profiles don't help the stuttering so Crossfire still doesn't work right. Also, using K10Stat with the clock settings to ganged definitely smoothed out the game for me.(thank you HTWingNut for the advice) It didn't give me much of a frame rate increase but it smoothed out the CPU intense situations.

EDIT: The CAP4 I'm referring to is not direct from AMD. It's the one in the link HTWingNut posted below.

 

So far there is only 11.9 CAP 1, CAP 2, and CAP 3. CAP 3 is FUBAR. Use 11.9 CAP 2.

Download and install 11.10 Preview 3 drivers: http://support.amd.com/us/kbarticles/Pages/GPU124AMDCat1110PreDriverV3.aspx

Then 11.9 CAP 2 (or CAP 4 which is not a direct AMD CAP, but seems to work): http://www.rage3d.com/cap/

 

Any work around for OpenGL Rendering Issue?, Seems It does not use the dgpu after u assigned the high performance mode.
And the IGP 6520G is also on power saving mode i.e. 275 mhz 0.900 v core and does not clock it self any higher.
I am on stock catalyst driver 11.6 tried 11.8 and same Issue, Crappy performance. Is there any mod to disable IGP power saving mode for gaming Profile,
(Temporary work around till openGL runs on dgpu)
Update: No its no use, got it to 400 mhz by running wmp but still same performance issue. OpenGL implementation is buggy in current display driver.

 

This is a problem in all implementations of AMD's automatic graphic switching. The only workaround at this time is to have a BIOS update that allows for fixed-mode graphic switching. HP Envy and Pavilion Intel-based notebooks have a BIOS update that allows this, and Dell recently released a similar series of updates for the Vostro line.

According to Anandtech, AMD is working on a driver-level solution to this problem. Allegedly they have something put together, but it's in testing right now. Hopefully we'll see something before the end of the year.

Until then, these notebooks are stuck rendering OpenGL on the integrated GPU.

 

I officially love this laptop. I'm running BF3 maxed out on this lapper with at least 30fps, noticed a little stutter here and there but that's it. If anyone is curious, I'm just running the latest ASUS chipset with no CAPs or anything and my unit isn't OC'd

 

Is that with or without asymmetric crossfire?

 

Maxed out? You mean Ultra? I doubt that. You can probably run textures and stuff at high, but shadows, AO, etc at low.

 

Idk, on the right everything is set to ultra lol. I think the only thing I have off is the AA defe
rred. But everything else is set to the highest. I was surprised. But crossfire is off too

 

I searched around for a while and apparently Intel users are getting the same stuttering issues we have. Most of them were able to resolve the problem by disabling hyperthreading. So I disabled boost in K10stat and crossfire finally runs smoothly. I also uninstalled the CAP4 profile because it just seemed to make things worse for me. I don't know what the correlation is but it seems to work. Although, I get lower frame rates using on the the dedicated processor my frame rate doesn't dip as low as it does with crossfire enabled.

With crossfire I get upwards of 50-60 fps but it dips to as low as 22 fps sometimes.

Without crossfire I only get around 30-40 fps but it never dips below 28 fps and I barely notice it.

Any ideas of what's going on?

 

Hyperthreading is different than boost. Hyperthreading is where a single core can act as two cores, although it only offers ~ 30% performance improvement in ideal conditions. Boost just bumps up the core speed higher depending on number of cores being taxed.

Although, didn't think about turning off boost to see if it helps.

 

so... disable boost to get xfire running good? It seems most games I try to run on this laptop are notorious for not running well with xfire, so it seems kind of a waste.

 

Do you have a link to the anand article that says that ?

I only remember reading that AMD basically says "too bad, sucks to be you".

I have been begging Asus to give us an IGP-disable Bios option, since all the A53/K53TA laptops have the 6650m graphics card, so it wouldn't hurt to disable the IGP.
So far, they haven't done anything.

I hope more people here can complain with me.

The IGP on the A6 really sucks because it's in a constant tug of war with the cpu portion for power.
If you load up AMD System Monitor, you can see it fighting.

 

AnandTech - Mobile GPU Faceoff: AMD Dynamic Switchable Graphics vs. NVIDIA Optimus Technology

 

Yeah, I do know what hyperthreading is. Just on a hunch I figured I'd see if disabling boost would have similar results. When I tried it, I had clock control enabled and the cores ganged. Do you think maybe keeping all the cores at a steady speed rather than quick boosts in speed is making it smoother?

 

I don't know. I've tried different things and didn't notice much of any difference. I'll try again.

 

I should also say that I'm using Radeon Pro to force triple buffering. I'm not an expert with this, just good with google. I've tried all different combinations (no triple buffering with crossfire, vsync and triple buffering and crossfire, and everything in between) as well as different K10stat controls. I feel like I'm so obsessed with getting crossfire to run smooth that I need to just give it up and play with just the 6650m.

 

You can enable triple buffering in the game:

RenderDevice.TripleBufferingEnable 1

My problem is that the rubber banding/warping/stuttering/lagging whatever you call it, is so horrible that I don't know if my crossfire is working properly or not.

 

If you can write up a complaint email we can all use to get their attention then I'll send one in and others should start to do so too.

 

Definitely yes I'd say. But what does boost do in k10stat? Does it not alternate between the P0 and B0 states when off? I don't think it'd make a difference if you set your minimum and maximum processor power in catalyst control center or power4gear, which is what I do for all games and graphics intensive programs. Allowing the system to fluctuate in processing speed DEFINITELY causes choppiness.

 

Allowing it to switch based on load does not cause choppiness. It runs minimally at P0 speed when under load, but when not, it's at minimum speed. If you use HWInfo64 the cores are fully loaded at P0 speed the whole time playing BF3, and boost doesn't matter.

If you leave K10stat to control your CPU speed it doesn't matter what you set it at in catalyst control center or power4gear, which is the same as setting it in Windows power options.

 

Last Night I was playing BF3 on high, very smooth with these settings on K10STAT for around 3 hours or so and then it froze. Then after I installed this profile ( http://sites.amd.com/us/game/downloads/pages/crossfirex-app-profiles.aspx) today, whenever I play BF3, my laptop freezes. This is with Crossfire disabled btw What should I do to fix this?


Here is my K10STAT

 

Try increasing the voltage on your P0 state. My system needs 1.0875v in order to be stable at 2.2 GHz.

 

Is it possible to just turn off Crossfire? The HD6650M is pretty powerful by itself.

I'd check myself, but my K53TA won't arrive until next week

 

Turn off as in turn off the IGP? No. Turn off as in disable crossfire? Yes.

 

I beg to differ. I notice hiccups in games and other apps when the system is allowed to fluctuate in cpu speed. K10stat only determines what the speed of each state is, Power4gear determines what states your computer will use. Yea, whent he system is under a high load it'll stick to the highest state for the most part, but at any point where the load eases up the P state will drop, and cause hiccups. Those changes can occur very fast, not easily seen in a cpu monitoring program. For the best game performance, ime, you want to keep your computer running on the highest P state (P0/B0) constantly.

 

Thank you man!! 1.0875v fixed it. Haven't froze at all yet!

 

If you set K10stat to Unganged or Ganged based on core load K10stat will control it. Power4Gear is the same as setting your CPU % in Windows power profile. If you use K10stat and set it to control the CPU it will override Windows settings.

I have gone through hours, many many hours optimizing both HP DV6z with A8-3530MX, A8-3510MX, and a K53TA and fixing the speed across all P-states only helped when you were at or close to the systems maximum speed (boost speed) otherwise it would auto-throttle causing performance issues. It's not that regular management of the core speeds matters, it's that the system will auto throttle down to minimum speed when it reaches or exceeds design max speed and certain temperatures are met.

 

I sure hope that applies to amd+amd notebooks.

that article mainly references intel+discrete notebooks.

 

I just don't get it. I have my CPU OC'd to 2.553ghz, my gpu both 730/1050, and the Driver Packaging Version 8.863-110628a-121868C-Asus drivers.

BF3 @ 1366x768 with EVERYTHING Low, no AA 4x Anisotropic, Motion Blur off, Ambient Lighting off, no crossfire and all I get is 10 FPS!?!?!?!

10FPS really?! what am I missing? I'm seeing people on here with lower OC's and stock gpu clocks getting 30-40fps with Medium. :sadpanda:

 

At 2.553GHz, your CPU could be auto throttling down to a much slower speed. Try setting it to 2.2GHz to start, and see how that works.

 

2.2-2.3 GHz is about the sweet spot for these machines. I actually get slightly worse performance at 2.3 than at 2.2. It'd probably be better with a re-paste, but I don't feel like taking the machine apart to do it.

 

I have all the P states set to 2.53, and I'm monitoring it. It doesn't dip, even when it tries to.

 

AMD Swole........... do you have dual core or quad core ?

I can believe the A4-3300m will run at higher clocks without overheating.