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    K53TA.. The best deal ever... could be!

    Discussion in 'Asus' started by UnXpectedError, Aug 8, 2011.

  1. GlasGhost

    GlasGhost Notebook Enthusiast

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    If I was not able to fix this my self, I would actually be worried.

    Also your sig is a lil odd on how it says your a6-3400m is oc'ed to a slower clock than it's stock turbo boost which it usually sits at when you're put demand on it.

    Go back find my k10stat profile and use it, you should be fine.

    My real question is I wonder if/and how much perf increase could possibly be gained by the processor running exactly double the ram speed for instance: 2.666ghz vs 2.7ghz when the ram is at 1.333

    My guess is no. I'm just wondering why there wouldn't be an increase when all the clock and memory requests line up.

    maybe I should fire up cpumark and test it out.
     
  2. asusk53

    asusk53 Notebook Consultant

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    He probably OC his stock P0 (1.4Ghz) to P0 (2.2Ghz) so his boost might be like 2.4-5 Ghz

    I already did some WEI test with Overclocking. I've seen that running between 2-2.5Ghz didn't improve my RAM score. But, over 2.5Ghz OC, my ram score went to 7.5 from 7.2. So yes, as long as you improve your OC, your ram improve as well.
     
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    Glad to know the power jack plug won't give us a problem later on. I've owned 1 other laptop with this problem.
    This is valuable information for me, since I also dropped my ASUS on its left side on soft carpet from 3 feet off the ground with power connected. Everything still works on mine, but the connector looks a little bent for me. You've given me peace of mind that it isn't soldered to the motherboard. I was afraid it would eventually break off in the next few years. So now I know that I can take it apart later and tape the connector like you. I'll wait until year 2 owning this until I make this fix since it's under warranty.
     
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    littlebiggtoe Newbie

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    I'm actually not sure that we have a true 2 year warranty....I know that it's listed with a 2 year "global warranty", but when I spoke with Asus when RMAing my system he told me that the warranty depends on the region in which the system was purchased. It was my understanding that in the US, this particular model only has a 1 year warranty with one way shipping. I can confirm this seeing as I had to shell out 30 bucks for shipping w/insurance to send them my brand new laptop in for repair, and on the side of the original box it also states I have a single year of warranty. It might be something worth double checking.
     
  5. zyromkiru

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    Asusk53 is correct. although I have yet to see my computer kick into turbo mode. Every time I would check my FPS they would always be the same as well.

    Can't wait till I build my own rig though because Asus Customer service is killing me. Fedex says my PC has arrived to Asus. I check my repair status yesterday and instead of saying "We have not received the product yet" it then said "We don't have records of your inquiry". (also my notebook is now missing from registered products...) Now today I try and check it and brings up an extra page the from the looks of it is an employee login page which makes it IMPOSSIBLE for me to check my status.

    So ya, I can't wait to build my own PC and all my parts won't be from Asus since they are proving to be dumber than a box of rocks. I honestly don't think they know the meaning of WARRANTY so I wouldn't count on those 2 year warranties guys.. I only have a 1 year but it's still crap service
     
  6. atoneapone

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    I know it's only a 1 year warranty..so I only have 6 months left :).
    I meant I'd probably wait until a year later before I attempt to take my laptop apart to make any mods, cleanups, or repairs since it might void the 1 year warranty if I take it apart now.

    Just like others, I'd hate to have any problems and have to shell out shipping expenses for repairs...but I guess it's better than taking a loss on our investment or spending over $150 for repairs.
     
  7. littlebiggtoe

    littlebiggtoe Newbie

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    I had a similar problem, just keep calling them and express your displeasure. They lost mine for a week and wouldn't own up to it, but because Fedex keeps a scanned signiature along with the exact arrival time I was able to use that to show them that they actually had it. Call and speak with a manager (this can be hard with them...) and make sure they put in an official rush request on your RMA. Once they did that my computer "magically" reappeared and was fixed and shipped the next day.
     
  8. littlebiggtoe

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    I can't blame you one tiny bit. I wonder if they would notice if I opened and repasted the system... :p

    Yeah, I'd rather pay the one way shipping and know that I am at least getting Asus components. Of course if I weren't shipping it to Asus I would more than likely fix it myself ha. I just don't trust other people with my computers haha.
     
  9. zyromkiru

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    Called and they say it's being repaired and that they can see my status says it's being repaired and that they received on the date FedEx shipped it so their website just hates me.

    asusk53
    Are you using ONLY your 6650M (if so how are you only using that)? or are you using Dual Graphics Mode and 6520G at times?

    Also does anyone have a good Kstat Profile with good temps while playing Battlefield 3? GlasGhost you said you have one but I'm not sure where it is xD
     
  10. asusk53

    asusk53 Notebook Consultant

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    I'm only playing with my 6650 OC, when it's possible. DX11 games play well, but oldest game like saints row 2 is laggin very bad because it only use the 6520.
    I got a profile stable with max temp of 78C (on table no cooling pad, very acceptable for me) when both cpu and gpu are OC, on battlefield 3.

    B0 - 2267 - 1.0750V
    P0 - 1950 - 0.9875V
    rest is as default, however i've drop the voltage
     
  11. GlasGhost

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    This actually makes me happy I voided my warranty.
     
  12. zyromkiru

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    Hmm still looking for higher. But the one I was using before was good but didn't know if I could get much higher with a lower voltage.

    ya unfortunately for me I was FORCED to RMA since my problem couldn't be fixed by me alone. I keep my computers in perfect condition, don't go to sites that will give me viruses but I always have the bad luck and something breaks down on me...
     
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    Yeah, that's the latest one on the Asus Website for our laptop. Nothing new.

    Edit: Maybe it is different haha, didn't read the revision part. But when I downloaded it, it said "K43ta.207"? Maybe they revised it for K43ta, don't really know.
     
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    asusk53 Notebook Consultant

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    Both k43 and k53 share the same bios. I just want to know what's unlock with that :O
     
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    I was digging around in this thread and saw that someone posted this:

    Sounds like that's how come my 6650m wouldn't work on those games...

    Apparently Asus is already shipping my PC back to me so I'm going to test this for sure since it would make a lot of sense because I ALWAYS had my dual graphics switch turned "On" in the area you manually turn it on...
     
  19. asusk53

    asusk53 Notebook Consultant

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    That's bad we got a computer that comes with crossfire and we can't use it cause it's not working as it's supposed to. It was like the main spec I was lookin for with this lappy -_- On the other hand, I'm pretty happy with the tweaking we can do with the cpu.. on my gateway I wasn't able to oc the dang cpu neither play with voltage -_-
     
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    The best thing about this laptop was most of us were able to stay below the common price of a semi-gaming laptop with a decent dedicated gpu that would normally be around $550+--so maybe a savings of $100-150. So we got what we pay for I guess - . I was trying to get the best laptop possible in the $400 range and this fit the bill ok. I'm just thankful for the cpu oc & that the single gpu configuration with latest graphic drivers have allowed most games to play better than I'd hoped from a $400 laptop.(I never heard of crossfire in a laptop prior to this so I wasn't expecting much to begin with.) ;)
    ...tinkering under the hood on this laptop has been fun in its own right. Though, not practical for everyone :eek: .
     
  21. mbk1969

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    Asymmetric crossfire - thats the problem - the power of 6520 and 6650 is too diff. Btw, I tried downclocking of the 6650 in order to achieve more balanced crossfire rig and it kinda worked - in "Deus Ex: Human revolution" I got less microstuttering. According to AMD System Monitor under heavier load 6520 switched from 400 MHz to 275 MHz (due to PowerPlay) less often then with 6650 at stock clocks.

    Edit: Just a thought - ASUS could set 6650 as primary card and 6520 as helper. May be in 2d usage 6650 (at 2d clock with 6520 off) would be not so battery-hungry
     
  22. asusk53

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    Yeah you're right! we got what we pay for. I still love very much this laptop compared to my older gateway and 'till the time I got the money for my dreaming g53, this one is gonna do the job well. However, asus should have state something like 'dedicated 6650m card for 3d application and integrated 6520g for battery saving/surfing duty'. Like it is really and not emphasing on the word 'crossfire' even if it's very attractive for gamers lol. Anyway, I can do MUCH more with this 400$ laptop than my older 800$ nv5909h with a ty 330m. :D
     
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    please, is there any way to install windows xp on that? cause with w7 my computer is too slow. ty
     
  24. atoneapone

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    Not sure if win xp will install or not. But...
    Have you tried overclocking a little with K10stat? Usually helps speed normal operations a little.
    Also you should remove all bloatware>> http://forum.notebookreview.com/asus/380681-asus-utility-bloatware-guide.html
    (I removed Virtual Camera, LifeFrame3, Splendid, Live Update, ASUS Smart Logon, Fancy Start, Fast Boot, Screen Saver, Office 2010 (have my own copy) and Trend Micro Internet Security 2011 Titanium (install your own security software free or pay ones ..... And maybe a few others I can't remember )
    Some people have even changed out the slow 5400rpm HD for a faster 7200rpm HD and reinstalled everything.
     
  25. zyromkiru

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    Ya it's really sad since I play BF3 with crossfire on Ultra WITH AA and I get 50-60 (unless some intense war is going on near me, also didn't get a whole lot of gameplay time before my pc died.) BUT it likes to go in the low 20's at times due to the crossfire not working well. Same thing with other games such as Blacklight: Retribution, Dead Space 2, etc. only those games had different FPS obviously.

    Windows 7 is faster than xp... every computer I have tested has better results on Windows 7 than xp and Vista was just a joke....

    To boost performance tweak with the graphical settings. Besides games now days are directing you more toward windows 7 and work better with it.
     
  26. therealjonnyd

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    Yea, I don't like the fact that I cannot set the 6650m as the primary, but it works OK for me either way. I have an A8-3500M in mine, which has a 6620g but it still doesn't really perform any better than the 6520g honestly.

    It's so cheap and gives us SO much. Can't complain at all!

    :confused: Slow compared to what??? It's a multi-core machine with 4gb of ram, switching to XP would make it SLOWER.

    Windows 7 > *
     
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    @therealjonnyd

    how's the temp with the a8 as its not the same wattage pattern? did u do some cooling mod? wei score vs a6? thks
     
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    What I meant is: if all that "APU + Dual grafics" staff is valuable only for gamer`s notebooks then why not optimize platform?
    Is that too hard to implement:
    1 - dGPU is primary
    2 - dGPU is on PCI-E x16 (not on x8)
    3 - external display ports is on dGPU
    4 - iGPU is linked with dGPU through PCI-E x4 (at least)
    5 - crossfire implementation is optimized for unbalanced dGPU+iGPU rig (at least not AFR mode; why can`t dGPU render most % of each frame whith little % of help of iGPU?)
    ?


    Update: I discovered interesting tool for editing the ATI OverDrive limits. On my notebook v11 is the latest version that not crashed. I tried to lock the 6520 clock in 3d mode - but no luck.
     
  29. asusk53

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    did you guys ever tried to get any spare parts for our laptop? I was looking for the heatsink/fan assy on ebay and I can't find any.. same on asus store there's nothing.. where can we get our spare parts then? o_O
     
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    Asus K53TA-BBR6 Parts List

    Has a lot of random stuff. May have what you're looking for.
     
  31. asusk53

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    They dont have much.stuff for us.. they have a lot of ac adapter and battery like ebay.. the rest is like no more available. i know our laptop has been disc. but its not a reason to stop making parts. lile a car they should make a lot of pieces available for 10 years lol
     
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    No cooling mods. If you aren't setting it on your bed, I don't see the problem. WEI GFX is .1 better, but the CPU seems to be more stable than the A6 at higher clocks.

    I hear you. It seems to work well with DX11 games, but for older games we should have the option of using the 6650m exclusively.

    They still make parts, but they don't sell directly to consumers. That's completely normal! asusparts.eu has spare parts, but they take FOREVER. Look on ebay, most of what shows up on there is from "part-out" machines. I've seen the heatsink/fan combo on there.

    JD
     
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    found only 1 in eu.. 40$ plus unknown shipping.. well I'll get a gx cooling assy for my heatpipe mod :p
     
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    Heya, Acer laptop user here, but since my laptop has almost the exact same specs, thought I might as well ask this here (AMD A8 3500M 1.5 Ghz with 6620G + 6650M):

    Is it possible to update the graphics drivers directly from AMD on this (by downloading the mobility catalyst drivers), or will it cause any problems with switching cards and such? Acer never, ever updates their own drivers and I'd really need better drivers soon, especially since new games require it for working Crossfire...
     
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    I don't see why not; Not 100% sure for your Acer since it may act differently, but official AMD mobility 64bit Win 7 drivers work the best on our ASUS laptops, better than chipset drivers by the company.
    It's worth a try, so give it a shot on the AMD site or get the Win 7 64bit mobility AMD drivers linked here: [AMD 11-12_mobility_vista_win7_64_dd_ccc_ocl]
    http://forum.notebookreview.com/asu...607232-k53ta-owners-lounge-8.html#post7977043
    Just reinstall your Acer drivers if you run into any problems. But not sure if you can overclock gpu with the change of same registry values. So use caution if you're also trying that...
     
  37. mbk1969

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    In another forum I read about installing the AMD drivers exactly over the OEM drivers. And judging by some replies that method has solved problematic AMD drivers installations.
     
  38. Finzy

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    Alright, thanks, just wanted to be sure :) My previous Acer laptop (with some integrated old gen Intel switchable card + a HD 4670M) really hated non official drivers and gave me a lot of trouble, so I've been dreading updating video drivers since. :p But with AMD+AMD I guess it should be ok indeed.
     
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    Installed the latest 12-1 mobility drivers with an express install over the existing drivers. They installed OK without problems, but when I tried to restart my laptop to test (there was no prompt to restart but I figured it's better to), it froze in a black screen and I had to manually turn it on again. Now everything seems to work so far but the driver dates are listed as 5th December in the control panel (while the AMD site says 25th of Jan) and my 6650M became a "6600 and 6700M series". Is that supposed to happen?
     
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    Yes, perfect install for you...Little things changed like that, but performance is better than old drivers. You'll also notice that the term "crossfire" in AMD Vision Controll Center has changed to "AMD Radeon Dual graphics." But it means the same thing.

    What's the consensus on 12.1 drivers (is it better than 11.12 drivers or not)? I've been happy with the 11.12 drivers and don't have the very latest games like SWTOR (so I didn't think I need it). Recent 12.1 CAP 2 profiles are out>> http://sites.amd.com/US/GAME/DOWNLOADS/Pages/crossfirex-app-profiles.aspx
    So maybe those help it be better than older drivers, unsure.. :confused:
     
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    to me it just looks like it better supports newer games and made a few minor tweaks besides the custom profiles

    http://support.amd.com/us/kbarticles/Pages/AMDCatalystSoftwareSuiteVersion121.aspx

    Seems like 11.12 favors some areas while 12.1 favors others so both seem good to me. (from what i have read on user feedback around the web) From my personal experience I never used 11.12 long enough to show the differences between the two.
     
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    Haven't been here for a while, not really using the laptop as a gaming unit anymore, rather a daily internet and editing station.

    My question is, I'm running my P0 2.6GHz with max temps around 76C and was thinking of now tweaking my Video card for some added performance.

    Where do you manually change your discrete video card options? BIOS or somewhere else. And what programs are you guys now using to OC your GPU,
    thanks in advance...

    - Steve
     
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    You have to disable ULPS in your registry 1st..
    Asus K53TA-BBR6 Laptop: AMD Quad-Core A6-3400M 1.4GHz APU, 4GB DDR3, 500GB HDD, 15.6" 1366x68 LED, 1GB Radeon HD 6550, WiFi N, 6-cell Battery, Win 7 Prem $450 + Free Store Pickup - Page 11 - Best Buy Deals, Coupons and Promos
    on this page they talked about an app some1 made to disable ulps for you.
    You HAVE to install the MOBILITY version of ati drivers.
    I OC 700/1000 using MSI Afterburner w/o crash.

    P.S.: what's your Voltage for your P0-2.6Ghz ?
     
  44. mbk1969

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    asusk53, I am able to open the bios file with new AMIBCP 4.53 and it looks like the bios has no hidden menu items. Apparently there is EFI menu in bios file (and much more vast & impressive). I even found open-source efi shell and ran it from bios setup but it is a shell only. If we can find a bios efi setup tool (I mean some graphical console)... Guys, would you search you partitions (including hidden service one) for any "*.efi" files, please...
    There is boot option in bios "EFI boot" and may be it will enable some EFI setup utility, but I am on 32 bit Win7 now so a can`t boot in EFI mode. Also I don`t know is it possible to switch on the EFI mode after installing the win7-64 in legacy bios mode...
     
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    "GPU Overclocking Instructions" are in the Wiki that AsusK53 linked to. I helped write up the instructions on how to oc gpu. It's also in the owner lounge here:
    http://forum.notebookreview.com/asu...607232-k53ta-owners-lounge-8.html#post7977043 (step 2 is the key step making gpu oc possible. But follow the steps in exact sequence written, and it should work.)
    -You will need any recent AMD drivers 11.12 or 12.1 for oc of gpu to work.
    -You will primarily need MSI afterburner to set the overclock speed. There you will need to edit the MSIafterburner.cfg file within the program folder. (see wiki or link above for directions)
    -You must also use HTwingnut's registry value (Disabling ULSP) for allowing overclock of gpu.
     
  46. asusk53

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    Crap.. that means i don't have other choice.. I'll have to put a switch on one of the fan wire if I want it to run faster. Unless you guys were able to run fanspeed.. but for me it doesn't work :(
     
  47. GlasGhost

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    [​IMG]

    Notepal U series.
    Does anyone have the U2 version a smaller version than the U3 version.

    I want the U2 since it is smaller. Can you fit the k53 inside this cooler(remove the fans 1st)? Is the k53 to big?
     
  48. GlasGhost

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    Mine hits 79C with this P0. What is your B0 at and what voltages? also are you using a cooling pad?
     
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    Update: my *test* dual-channel LVDS cable will be here the beginning of next month, I have 2 different 1080P panels that I will be testing if all goes well. I'll keep everyone updated.

    I also tried to mod the bios, I found the same as the other gentleman -- every available option is enabled already :( I was really hoping to tool around in the bios.
     
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    I may have found a way to make the graphics mode selectable via BIOS by editing the factory BIOS file. I don't know if I have the balls to flash it, but I definitely found the option... LOL.
     
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