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    K53TA.. The best deal ever... could be!

    Discussion in 'Asus' started by UnXpectedError, Aug 8, 2011.

  1. whiteeye

    whiteeye Notebook Enthusiast

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    I have same lag problem as you. Maybe there is something even more efficient, than disabling ULPS, because 17 FPS on low and 17 FPS on Ultra in NFS The run makes me think, that it is not hardware but only software, that causes the problems, "Alan Wake" is also laggy, but still payable (20-24 FPS, most of the time 22 or 23 FPS), but rest of the games are buttery smooth. Is there any other efficient fixes that somebody here know for increasing game FPS?
     
  2. victoryo

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    Iam installing NFS the run now.

    Iam running 8 GB ram and a A8 3510MX and samsung SSD. Although i install the game on the original Hard Disk.
    I will test what kind of FPS i get with this set up. Using latest 12.9 Beta drivers!
     
  3. Undyingghost

    Undyingghost Notebook Evangelist

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    Crossfire on and off please. :)
     
  4. victoryo

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    Oke i just played the game.

    Video settings were:

    Resolution @ 1366 x 768
    All the other advanced settings were set to ULTRA.
    Crossfire enabled

    In game it was locked @ 30FPS with these settings.
    Didn't try without crossfire jet, but what video settings are you guys using?

    That's better for comparing.

    -- edit:

    Oke, just changed all settings to LOW and still 30FPS locked. That's kinda weird.

    After that i turned off CF and let the game settings on LOW now it was around 22FPS.

    So i can say that CF improves the game for me. But 30 FPS @ LOW and 30FPS @ ULTRA sounds crazy :S
     
  5. whiteeye

    whiteeye Notebook Enthusiast

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    30 fps is limited by NFS, 30 FPS means, that game is maxed out, you won't get past 30 fps.
     
  6. haymanali2006

    haymanali2006 Notebook Guru

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    i dont have this section :s

    [​IMG]

    how is that , how to enable crossfire for applications that dont have application profile

    edit: i have same drivers
     
  7. Popeye-K53TA

    Popeye-K53TA Notebook Guru

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    It`s from Catalyst 12.9 :hi2:
     
  8. haymanali2006

    haymanali2006 Notebook Guru

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    we have same drivers but i dont have it :s
     
  9. Popeye-K53TA

    Popeye-K53TA Notebook Guru

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    You probably didn`t uninstall previous Catalyst and run Driver sweeper+ CC cleaner bro!!! Anyway,CrossFire is better disabled,you get alot of lag in games
     
  10. haymanali2006

    haymanali2006 Notebook Guru

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    uninstalling catalyst+ cleaning with driver sweeper while running on safe mod + and cc cleaner

    but i did many un-installings , my laptop needs format :) thx anyway
    i need some temprature regs on iddle mod , gaming etc. cause i thnk that my k53 has a overheating problem ,specialy on full powered high performance profile
     
  11. paramoreds

    paramoreds Newbie

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    Search on Google the new patch update 1.01 it unlock 60 fps on NFS the run.
     
  12. Popeye-K53TA

    Popeye-K53TA Notebook Guru

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    70 celsius Apu is ok in web browsing ?

    I`m afraid Oc-ing doesnt give me alot of improvement,in games .
     
  13. victoryo

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    Seems a bit too high to me. Mine is 49 celcius while browsing.

    And i use a 3510MX that runs stock @ 1.8Ghz so thats 400Mhz higher than the 3400M.
     
  14. kabal

    kabal Notebook Guru

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    Hello All.

    Finally I bought Corsair Vengeance sticks. Now everything is working as it should - memory working on 800Mhz (1600).
    It seems that there is incompatibility between K53Ta and Micron 1600 sticks (mine was low voltage).
     
  15. victoryo

    victoryo Notebook Enthusiast

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    Good to hear! Do you notice any performance win?
    I also still need to upgrade my RAM to those Vengeance sticks! :)
     
  16. shibbybypass

    shibbybypass Notebook Enthusiast

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    Is anyone playing Dark Souls? I have it installed and I am getting some pretty poor performance. I am assuming this game is cpu bound more than gpu.
     
  17. whiteeye

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    Did that guy who also had lagging NFS The Run found a fix to that problem? I'm still trying to find a solution, and it seems that i'm not the only one.
     
  18. Popeye-K53TA

    Popeye-K53TA Notebook Guru

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    Disable Crossfire and ULPS,set high performance for NFS in Switchable Graphics.
     
  19. Popeye-K53TA

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    pretty fast,needs some improvement for stability,lots of programs doesnt work ok.
     
  20. kabal

    kabal Notebook Guru

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    So far only windows score jump from 7,3 to 7,4 :)
    But my OS is tragically :) I must do fresh format and finally swap 7200rpm HDD to Samsung 830 SSD (I do not have time lately to do this).

    I let You know.
    Regards,
     
  21. whiteeye

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    That didn't help, so I did something a little bit different- reinstalled windows. lets see if it had any positive effects!
     
  22. haymanali2006

    haymanali2006 Notebook Guru

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    i installed 12.9 net4.0(fresh install) :hi2:
    this is my driver and cc info :

    [​IMG]

    and still dont have the section
    [​IMG]
    [​IMG]

    how is that :err:
     
  23. Jachas

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    Any1 tryied 12.11?
    It doesnt work for me... i mean:
    Switchable graphics global application settings are empty, i cant set any profile.
    After clicking switchable graphics application settings, CCC crash and quits.

    In result most of games runs on iGPU...while before they were running on dGPU
     
  24. whiteeye

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    same for me...
     
  25. Undyingghost

    Undyingghost Notebook Evangelist

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    Didnt tried 12.10 or 12.11 but that sounds bad...

    Gonna try them tonight
     
  26. ignant101

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    I've had no problem with the new 12.11 Beta drivers.
    this is what it looks like for me
    dxP45.png
     
  27. robinei

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    Exactly the same for me. CCC crashes when I click Switchable Graphics Application Settings.
    Started when I installed 12.10 beta, and I was banking on the next update to fix it, but alas, it didn't.
     
  28. klarghmon

    klarghmon Notebook Enthusiast

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    Works for me... Am on 12.11 Beta.

    SwitchableGraphics.jpg 1211SoftwareInfo.jpg

    About the Global Settings, I have empty fields for them but I'm wondering if that's because I have Power4Gear Energy profile on as opposed to Windows 7's default power management.
     
  29. victoryo

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    12.11 beta also works for me fine!
    Also have empty fields on the global settings withouth Power4Gear, so think it's a bug for our laptops.
    But no problem because switchable graphics application settings works fine! :D
     
  30. Undyingghost

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    Just installed and work just fine.

    Hopping it will stay like that after i try some games...
     
  31. atoneapone

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    Thanks for all the feedback on 12.10 & 12.11 since I'm always periodically updating the owners lounge wiki. Wondering if anyone has any windows or firefox crashes, or stuck high or low idle clocks mentioned by members at guru3d forum.
     
  32. ignant101

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    Dude, thank you for that wiki. It was so helpful when I got this laptop. I haven't had any crashes so far and most of the games I've been playing (DOTA 2, Planetside 2, BF3, Borderlands 2, and Dishonored) have been running much smoother than before (12.9 beta).
     
  33. klarghmon

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    I haven't had any windows or firefox crashes and I'm not sure about how low idle clocks should be but my 6520G is ~275MHz core and 667MHz Memory at Idle. 6520G goes up to 400MHz core 667MHz memory when utilized. The 6650M stays off during idle, but if a program that triggers crossfire is running it goes up to 600MHz core 900MHz Memory and throttles down to 100MHz Core 150MHz memory if that same program is minimized. Then if I close the program, 6650M turns itself off.

    Now that I look at it, why is the 6520G so high in core / memory clock during idle when the 6650M achieves low clocks? Just the way the hardware is set up?

    I was wondering... if I wanted to undervolt the GPUs, would I be able to turn on ULPS after adjusting the voltages? Or for volt control I need ULPS off all the time?

    PS There are a few visual issues I have with 12.11 beta that seems to still be haunting me since 12.9 beta. Sometimes when my mouse cursor icon changes from the usual pointer to that of window resizing and/or hand icon, there is for a split second a black box around my cursor. Also, if I use Blender3D in high performance setting (OpenGL program) then when I mouse over any button, there's ridiculous tearing on the screen. At least I can now pan around a 3D object without the black tearing that was there in 12.9 beta...
     
  34. menghao

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    If A6 3400M + SSD , how long does it take to boot up?
    I counted mine with boot racer, it took 21seconds , seems like getting slower and slower, anyone face the same situation as me ?
     
  35. atoneapone

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    Good to hear no problems with low idle clocks-yours are normal-->6520g has 275mhz so it will be available for aerographics of windows.
    Not sure about undervolting gpu since I rarely overclock graphics any more...I've also experienced a browser flash animation bug sometimes where a box appears around the cursor and prevents me from selecting anything on the screen...probably a firefox/AMD graphics bug. But I just reload another browser window and all is ok.

    I'm still on old 12.7beta drivers but since everyone here has good feedback on 12.9beta & 12.11beta then I will slowly give them both a try and do my own benchmarks of the FPS on atleast 5 games and compare the performance to get a real idea of the improvements. But if I see less performance on my particular games then I will go back to 12.7beta.
     
  36. dchinu

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    Any one trying freshly baked beta driver check for error log in event viewer and Reliability Monitor (Start>search box>View Reliability history) If you don't find anything related to amd or Catlyst Fuel Service Crash than its good and stable.
    Sticky clock is another issue when Dgpu won't power down properly after chaging Power source (AC and Battery) few times during gaming.
    You can dignosis this issue by checking gpuz, or your task manager
    If you see these two process running alwasy (MMLoadDrv.exe and MMLoadDrvPXDiscrete.exe) than its bugged.
    And report any visual anamoly like horizontal Lines or distorted display in any scenario, Along with usual performance boost of beta
    From my test 12.8 whql is some what suffer
     
  37. klarghmon

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    Mine takes about 21 seconds on battery to go from button press to login screen. It might just be a windows 7 thing though since when I tried lubuntu one time, it booted into it in about 10 seconds or so. I would be interested to see the boot speed of windows 8 on an SSD since benchmarks have mentioned improved boot times going from 7 to 8. I have A6 3400M with Crucial M4 128GB.
     
  38. victoryo

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    I run windows 8 on my Samsung 830 SSD. Boot time is like 5 seconds, it's crazy!
    Although Windows 8 is crap :(

    Had to install third party software for the start button and UAC is a hell to turn off.
    If you completely turn it off your APPS wont work anymore.
     
  39. Popeye-K53TA

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    Anybody has a solution on Micro Stuttering with CrossFire ?!?
     
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    Do you mean like uneven frametime distribution from Alternate Frame Rendering? As far as I know, there isn't much of a solution to prevent micro stuttering with crossfire. You're completely at the mercy of how good the drivers are for the particular game for masking or coming up with preventive measures to deal with the micro stuttering in it. It's a thing that affects dual graphics solution for Crossfire and SLI at any FPS. :(

    One thing you could try is to get more FPS by lowering some options. Although micro stuttering occurs, it might not be as noticable at higher FPS?

    Now if only we could add a third card to the mix: often that removes micro stuttering in multi-gpu solutions :p lol.
     
  41. AlucardX

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    amd radeon hd 6520g.PNG

    Why is my Asus K53ta only showing a readout of 512mbs ram on the dedicated graphics card. Isn't it supposed to be 1gb, I'm currently running my K53TA on the newest bios revision with version 8.903.0.0000 catalyst control center with the 1.7 beta display driver. I attached a readout of what its showing for my graphics card summary. Help would be appreciated, thanks.
     
  42. OniMask

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    AMD CCC just shows the integrated graphics card. Use other program like GPU-Z to read both cards details.
     
  43. AlucardX

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    Alright, here's the readout on the dedicated card, does this look right to you, also I have cross-fire disabled on this read out. It just seems like I'm not getting as good of performance as before. I could run Borderlands 2 smoothly with full settings with the exception of having the physx engine turned off. this happened after the bios update. Not to mention that I started having issues with allot of ati drivers after the bios update. I never have overclocked the dedicated gpu. Just the cpu for brief periods of time and I never let the temps hit above 75c on full load. After the bios update I would start getting screen glitches with certain ccc versions such as random flashes of lines on the screen. I believe that, that is called banding? Anyways afterwords I tried just about every bios revision, still hasn't corrected the issue. If anyone has any free time and doesn't mind helping me out. Could one of you guys look over my drivers and settings through team viewer to see if this may be a driver issue, or something related to the bios. I'm not about to shell out $100 to have it repaired by Asus unless its absolutely necessary. And I would greatly appreciate it, if you don't mind helping me out, please send me a pm.

    ati dedicated card.JPG
     
  44. klarghmon

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    The second card is under 'Linked Adapter' under the view that you're in. Just scroll down and expand the '> Linked Adapter' to get the readout for the 6650M. Like so:

    AMDVisionControlLinkedAdapter.jpg

    Am I understanding it right that you have the AMD drivers from ASUS K53TA's download site installed and then... what is this 1.7 beta drivers you speak of? 12.7beta? Is there a reason why you're not on 12.11beta for CCC and driver? Also, for the games that I play, crossfire enabled and the game set to high performance on 'Configure Switchable Graphics' outperforms crossfire disabled unless the driver isn't adjusted for the specific game well.
    Color banding means that the 6-bit TN panel isn't dithering so it looks like there are layers of colors instead of a smooth transition: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Color_banding. This was fixed in I believe bios versio 206. What bios version are you on? 214?

    If you mean the random flashes of lines on the screen like a black line flickering while you're on the desktop (mine did it on the upper right corner), it's specifically an issue with earlier drivers such as 12.6. Ever since I moved to 12.11, I do not have that black line flickering on the screen issue. This is my guess as to what you mean by the flash/flicker.
     
  45. AlucardX

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    Hmm, well from what I remember I tried 12.11 beta and when it my computer boots up it extremely slow to boot. Then my computer runs poorly until I click the icon on the tab in the tray that only reads as "open catalyst control center. When I open it, the configure graphics option menu pops up. After I do that then the whole menu from the tray icon for catalyst control center is shown. I'm not even seeing that readout from the linked adapter in that menu man, just the read out for the cpu/apu. Wouldn't I need Asus's chipset drivers for the drivers to properly work though? Or could I simply just uninstall the asus's catalst control center completely and then install the 12.11 driver? I'm starting to think my computer doesn't have the dedicated videocard drivers installed properly.
     
  46. AlucardX

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    Oh wait now I remember why I downgraded, my usb ports weren't being detected. Should just install the usb drivers from the 8.903.0.0000 version of the driver. Then install 12.11 after that, here's a picture of the undetected drivers, I know one is a usb port, not sure about the other one.

    missing driver.JPG missing driver 2.JPG
     
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    Never mind that's the smbus controller, is there a newer version for the smbus controller other than the one on asus's website. Because 12.11 didn't include one. I just installed 12.11 and now that I have manually installed the usb and smbus controller the driver seems to be working fine. I was just curious if there is a newer smbus controller since I may get better performance out of it. Also the gpu information for the dedicated card is displaying now that I have 12.11 installed.
     
  48. victoryo

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    Just download the 12.10 chipset driver from the AMD site, they just work fine beside any new video driver.
    Iam running them beside the 12.11 beta drivers without problem. Also you can just instal 12.10 CAP 1 :)
     
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    What do you mean that the display driver isn't working with it so you're using an older one?
     
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    On the right side of Downloads is AMD Chipset Drivers which if clicked will navigate you to version 12.10 of AMD Chipset Drivers. That should install the necessary USB and SMBus drivers that are missing from the Graphic Drivers.

    What I believe victoryo means is that you can have 12.11 beta graphic driver running with 12.10 AMD chipset drivers at the same time (since they affect different components of your computer). The Chipset Drivers are not the same as the Graphic Driver. Or if you're on an earlier graphic driver, you can install the 12.10 CAP 1 to install the latest Crossfire Application Profile for your older graphic card driver / CCC to use in order to be able to play the game with the graphic driver fixes. The CAPs are a way for AMD to release quick upgrades to the code without having to release a new version of the drivers since their update cycles probably don't coincide with game releases. Another reason for CAPs are if people are fine with a specific driver but have issues with the newer one, they can still gain the benefits of the hotfixes in the CAPs for specific games with the older drivers.

    So you can do
    12.11 beta
    12.10 AMD Chipset Driver

    or

    12.10 Graphic Driver (heard some negative things about it earlier in the forums?)
    12.10 AMD Chipset Driver

    or

    12.(whatever earlier)
    12.10 AMD Chipset Driver
    12.10 CAP 1 (unknown how far back in drivers the CAP works for though, so YMMV with this)

    The graphic driver + chipset driver will overwrite the ASUS supplied drivers, so you could just skip the supplied drivers and go straight for the newest drivers provided by AMD if you prefer. Otherwise, at least for me, express install of 12.11 beta and 12.10 chipset drivers installed it correctly over the ASUS supplied ones.



    PS: you can just install 12.10 Chipset Driver on top of your current installation of 12.11 beta Graphic Driver + your current SMBus / USB driver. AMD Catalyst Install Manager will take care of making sure that only updatable drivers are updated (one would hope!! lol)
     
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