K53TA.. The best deal ever... could be!

I was wondering the same, gonna try them when i have a chance.

 

Worth a try since you can just go back.

 

if i want to change for an a8 3520M (it has 35w TDP), do i need to change anything else?, i mean, bios will show the new processor and everything? or i need to mod something? lol sry if this was replied before

 

marcel, just put in and that's it...nothing else to do...

 

The new Intel integrated graphics kill AMD igp's, and even beat out the 6650m by a good margin. damn. AMD is doomed.

 

Hi guys,
I own an ASUS K53TA. A few months back I noticed that my CPU was stuck at 800 MHz even at High Performance mode.
So I tried re-installing drivers, re-install windows, run Prime-95 but nothing worked.
I sent the laptop for RMA and after struggling to figure out what to do for 2 months (LOL!) they replaced my CPU entirely.
I checked at the service center in cpu-z that the CPU was working as expected giving a clock of 1.4 GHz with occasional 2.3 GHz turbo boost. But the battery was dying so it went to hibernation automatically. After I recharged it to full battery, I booted into windows resume and the problem appeared once again.
But the CPU works fine in linux systems so I think the problem is with hibernation.
The GPU works fine so there is no problem with the power supply.
How can I reset the CPU???
P.S. Re-installing windows didn't work.

 

go to power settings in processor management...sure it's from there if in linux it works, it's not bios, it's from win setup

 

Its already in high performance mode....anything else I need to do?

 

look better..read again what i wrote.

 

its hot here too, i got 55-60c when i am surfing
in gaming i undervolt cpu(1.6, 1.8ghz) it goes about 70c-80c
but in many game the orjinal cpu freqs 1.4 tubro 2.3ghz it makes much hotter in games

 

Try k10-stat, it should override w.e software side does.

 

Now there's the fun part.....K10Stat is COMPLETELY ineffective. It changes nothing at all.

 

Are you talking about this?

 

I was thinking the same thing, and impressed by how far along integrated graphics have come in just 2 years (but I wonder which cpu is more energy efficient and runs cooler?). This means that our Asus laptop only has a year or 2 left for barely gaming decently.
It's also interesting to see Intel is offering 3 or 4 levels of integrated graphics. For example the recent slickdeal Lenovo Y410 i7 4700mq comes with Intel HD 4600 which is exactly as you described being better than our 6650m and it's only the 3rd level of integrated graphics. They're also going to have Intel laptops with even higher configurations of integrated graphics --> Iris Pro 5200 & Iris Pro 5100 graphics in their i7-4950HQ & i7-4900HQ cpus. But I haven't seen them on the market yet. (Both of those graphics are supposed to be at the level of GT 640m & GT 635m respectively.)

 

amd has new tech. igps too, but the main thing is which cpu is there with igpu
if u have powerfull cpu as u said i7 ones , igp ll work so much better

 

yeap, that;s it

 

I did that....and still nothing

 

what win do you use?
give a fresh install and try to see what's happening after you put only the motherboard drivers.

 

How about try to remove the battery and run solely with ac plug in,

 

Win 7 64-bit.....I re-installed it many times...tried win 8 and vista for a change.....same problem in all.

 

No change

 

ok, it's something wrong when you install the win every time. you do the same mistake., every time, so try to put only the win, and no drivers and see what;s happening and then put one by one the drivers and see...or you could go in windows task manager, resource monitor and see in cpu what process is holding the cpu high...and tell us.

 

Well to summarize things, windows installs on 800 Mhz....yeah I can tell at what the cpu is running by sensing the heat output.
I tried loading nothing but cpu-z on a fresh install and it showed 800 Mhz (FYI I don't think cpu needs any external drivers to run). However when I boot in safe mode, the cpu works fine

 

Actually, I initially disagreed, but I was looking at the wrong comparison. Iris Pro is actually a solid 30-50% faster than Trinity, which is impressive. AMD claims that the newer IGPs that are actually based fully on GCN and not just updated older designs will be 50-60% faster, but we'll see. The main thing I did notice though is that Iris Pro is only being offered in high-end mobile chips at the moment, meaning it's not actually going toe to toe with AMD. We'll see if a similar IGP makes it into Intel's cheaper and desktop parts.

 

a8 cpu and 1600mhz rams so nice

 

Iris pro is going to be a LOT more expensive though.

 

The whole point of these processors, more specifically this laptop, was to get big boy performance on a low budget. Until Intel decides to put out something in the same price range with equal or better performance (and it's been a couple years), AMD still wins as far as my wallet is concerned

However, while not the cheapest option on the market, this Intel-powered IdeaPad Y410p High-Performance 14" Multimedia Laptop from Lenovo | Lenovo (US) is an excellent deal for price/performance

 

This past year(2012-13) the best deal on budget gaming laptops price/performance wise has been the Lenovo Y580 laptops with Intel 3rd gen i5 32xx + GT635m (~$450) but I still think our Asus deal was a little better price/performance wise for how good it was in 2011. This year I didn't see any similar AMD laptop deals with good dedicated graphics.

So this year in Aug/Sept 2013, maybe there will be something similar to the Lenovo deal of last year eg. i5 4th gen with Intel hd 5000(which is also better than our 6650m) and dedicated GT 730 for around $450 & same basic features like 1366x768, 500gb 5400rpm hd etc. That's probably the best we can expect from a budget gaming laptop in the $400-500 range... but who knows...maybe there will be something competitive in price & similar from AMD.

 

Oh I agree entirely with everyone about how Haswell's Iris Pro graphics won't actually compete with AMD. It is still true that for the price of a lappy with those CPUs, you could just buy a laptop with a dedicated AMD GPU that would still be better. It's just amazing that Intel actually came up with an IGP that isn't total garbage, even if it is in a price category that makes it pointless. Personally, in that price range, I would prefer a mobility hd 7870 or better. For the tiny bit of extra wattage, it would still walk handily all over Iris Pro.

 

I think the modern replacement for the K53TA isn't the Lenovo Y5xx series, but the N56D series. I got one last week at Microcenter for $599. Everything about it is a nice step up. 1080p IPS screen with ~90% sRGB coverage, backlit keyboard, great sound system, 4x USB3.0 ports, 1TB Hard drive. And under load, while running 3DMark11 (and scoring a respectable P2100) The CPU never got over 88C and the GPU stayed at about 75C. Dual graphics are still not that great though.

I bought a K53TA two years ago for my brother, and if I had to buy a good inexpensive machine for him again today, this is exactly what I'd buy. Now if I can just figure out how to overclock the AMD A-10

 

I would argue the Acer V3 with the A10 paired with 7670 is the closest actually as it retails for the same $449.00 that the K53ta originally cost and is basically an update of the same thing. An extra $150 is a big jump, even for fancy stuff like backlit keys and a bigger hard drive.

 

wow.. never knew the A10 with 7670m came down to $450...(but I've seen it for $500 and 550). I felt if we were in market for a laptop this past year, then we'd all want something a little better than our own 6650m graphics, and the 7670m is not enough of an upgrade over 6650m, but a GT 635m may be a little bigger improvement combined with a respectable 3rd gen Intel i5...but still not enough of a 1 1/2 year improvement to throw away our own Asus laptop.
But I believe the AMD A10 is better for power efficiency than the Intel cpus. So it's always been about tradeoffs...do you want better power efficiency for battery life or better cpu/graphics performance(disregarding power efficiency).

 

Indeed...

Acer Aspire V3-551G-8454 Notebook AMD A-Series A8-4500M(1.90GHz) 15.6" 4GB Memory 500GB HDD 5400rpm DVD Super Multi AMD Radeon HD 7670M - Newegg.com
Acer Aspire V3-551G-X419 Notebook AMD A-Series A10-4600M(2.30GHz) 15.6" 6GB Memory 750GB HDD 5400rpm DVD Super Multi AMD Radeon HD 7670M - Newegg.com

Gotta watch them for when the prices go down. Because they have been a pretty darn good deal, as well.

 

Yeah $549 for an A-10 and 7670 is way too high when the Asus N56DP is only $599 and has a 1080p IPS screen and a much faster 7730 GPU. If / when it gets down the $450 or so then it might be worth it.

 

Well i have my 3400m oc'd to 2.4ghz oc'd and 6650m 700/1000 stable. Temps are never higher than 85c.

Bought this laptop 2 years ago and still surpriced how this little machine perform.

I don't think Acer v3 A10+7670m is any faster than this...

 

I love newegg too folks, but there are other stores. Best Buy and several others have both had them at $450 and $500 off and on for the last 2 months. Also, this is not intended as an upgrade. If you already have a K53TA, I wouldn't bother. More for people who see this forum and missed the boat.

 

Exactly. A lot of folks showed up shortly after the last few had sold out and were so sad they'd missed it. Ordered one for my brother, then went to order one for me and they were gone. Wound up setting on the HP dv6-6135 which has a slightly better GPU but is otherwise similar. I think that was $529. However CPU overclocking on that is limited to 2.2GHz before throttling occurs.

Now 2 years on I've upgraded from that to a N56DP for gaming and am pretty happy with it. A-10 is a little faster than A8, and 7730 is a big step up. Two years have passed, and I was just finding new games over and over I couldn't play fluidly on the old box, one of which was Mechwarrior Living Legend, another was Metro 2033. I think there's be a cheap 77x0 or GT640M based replacement in the next year, using older tech etc to keep the price down, and it'll be ~$500 or less. Here's hoping 1080 screens are ubiqitous by then.

 

guys can we overclock CPU with driver 13.4whql? Driver 13.4 has AMD Overdrive to overclock cpu's. Has anyone tried it yet, please let me know if its working.

 

Use k10stat for overclocking your CPU.

 

Don't brother with overdrive, it just messes thing up ~~

 

Have you tried this program? I've used it with my A6-3650 on my PC and my Lenovo Z575 laptop with A6-3400M (Yes, Llano-based, I know).

 

It was concluded by other owners of Trinity that there was no known overclocking software like k10stat that could unlock the Trinity cpus for overclocking. Only the Llano cpus can be overclocked with various software (unless someone proves otherwise).

 

I dont know if this is upgrade or not.
Ecost has HP m6 a10-4500 8gb 1tb with 7660+7670m for $379. Only bad thing is that its refurbished. Plan to sell my k53ta and get the m6. My k53ta went through alot. So many hairline scratches and plastic on keyboard and palm wrist are fading.
7670m is equivalent to 6650m. 7660m+7670m crossfire is equivalent to 650m and 7770m. Cheap upgrade from k53ta.
I'm guessing I can get atleast $200 for my k53ta 8gb 500gb a8-3520.

 

Not worth the hassle imo. and HP fan noise/ heat will make you mad.

edit: and seem like the cpu performance is worse than oc'd llano orz.

 

Don't to mention that dual graphics is a no-go with all it's microstuttering so GPU performacne should be the same, lol

 

I have two AMD dual graphics laptops now, an HP dv6-6135DX (A8-3500 and 6750) And an Asus N56DP (A10-4600 and 7730). The older drivers and slower GPU on the HP give terrible performance when using dual graphics. With the latest drivers on the faster 7730 I actually can use dual graphics. The performance increase is minimal, a few fps in most games, 5 or 10% increase. But it does work now, with no stuttering. I'll test the newest drivers on the older HP and see if it's a difference in the drivers or the hardware that makes the Asus N56DP work so much better with dual graphics.

 

Tried many drivers and microstuttering is always present, considering that only DX11 games can use 'Dual Graphics.

Maybe 6520g+6650m just isn't working like it should no matter what.

 

I think the difference between the two is too great, or something about the architecture of the 7660G/7730M in my Asus lets it work.

And are you sure it's only DX11 and not DX10 as well that can do dual graphics?

 

I would hope there's a nice difference between your 7660G/7730m Asus and our budget laptop, since the A10 with 7730m is priced around $800 while most of us got our Asus K53TA around $450 or less. Also there may be better gaming laptop alternatives than an A10/7730m configuration for around $800.

....On my K53ta I mostly run games with single gpu due to the microstutter issue that has always seemed to defeat the advantage of dual graphics. However few games like Crysis 3 and Deus ex do gain a little extra FPS. Drivers 13.4 were the last good drivers I've used so far.

 

I paid $600 for mine. If you pay $800 you're paying WAY too much. There's better for $800 to $850 easily. But for $600 you aren't gonna get a 1080p IPS screen, good speakers, mid level GPU (oced it reaches GT650M levels) backlit keyboard and so on and so forth.

But the point stands, that dual graphics seems to be getting better. It could be improvements in the trinity and 7xxx series GPUs and drivers altogether, in which case it's not the more powerful GPU/APU I have just that they're later gen.

I'd be interested to see how trinity series APUs and lower end GPUs do in dual graphics mode.