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    Max. Asus G1S Overclock (GPU)

    Discussion in 'Asus' started by sgtmatt1, Dec 13, 2007.

  1. Irathi

    Irathi Notebook Consultant

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    Impressive you got it to run 3d mark at that clock, a lot screen cards just overheat. About the score, idk, i quoted adolfotregosa if i remember correctly he got the G1S with the T7700 and 3 GB ram.
     
  2. sgtmatt1

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    But this is also my MAX. stable overclock, when i go a little higher my display driver crashes...
    Also my temperature isn't to high: 96°C under full load ^^ (without OC it's like 90°C so thats all right)
    Aaah, the 7700 will make the differnse then :D
     
  3. Irathi

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    Try downloading SETFSB 2.0.b.18

    and choose the correct cpu/laptop by selecting from the list. It will allow you to OC your CPU. Adolf has OC'd from 2.4 to 2.8! I managed to OC my from 2.2 to 2.6! (i normally run at 2.2 or 2.4).
    http://forum.notebookreview.com/showthread.php?t=184708

    http://forum.notebookreview.com/showthread.php?t=146088 section 11
     
  4. dagonarth

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    Hi. I just bought my G1S. I have problem with 3D Mark 06. With o/c gfx to 621/756 my notebook show me ~3200 Marks. Can someone with those fancy >4000 points help me? Below my result. Thanks.

    ps. I'm using the 169.25 drivers from the laptopvideo2go site.

    [​IMG]
     
  5. hairdewx

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    hey dagonarth make sure your power plan is set to high performance.

    I just ran 575/850(shows up as 848) and scored 4703.

    I only have an antec laptop cooler and my max temp during the benchmark hit mid 90's.

    EDIT*

    I should also add that rivatuner seems to show the core speed incorrectly... it seems to be off by about 40 MHz.
     
  6. Dodoman

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    Which drivers should I use to get stable overclocks? I'm using 169.32 right now and the clocks reset everytime I reset my laptop.
     
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    Very impressive with new drivers, you guys get 4700+ on 3DMark06. :)
    The highest score I can get is 4221 @594/729 with stock drivers back in May 2007:

    [​IMG]


    You can try 169.04 or 169.09, many people in this forum recommended it.
     
  8. nattfoedd

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    Longtime lurker here, now registered to share some of my OCing results.

    My system:
    AsusG1s
    T7700 (@2580Mhz)
    2GB
    8600m gt (gddr3) (@615/830Mhz)

    (I'm running these clocks with a selfbuilt notebook-cooler, which consists at the moment of one 120x120x25mm papst cooler, located at the area below the hdd - going to place another 120mm cooler below the cpu cooler and lowering their rpm, cause it's quite noisy at the moment.)

    My idle temps are around:
    42° CPU
    55° GPU
    28° HDD
    (@ 23° room temperature, yeah sun is shining in atm)

    Now to my latest 3dmark 06 results:
    [​IMG]

    Max. GPU temperature 91° for 8 seconds - most of the time around 85°-88° - using ForceWare 174.16 drivers
    Max. CPU temperature (not during 3dmark, but with orthos cpu stress test was 81°)
     
  9. lord_neno

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    G1S t7500, 3gb RAM.

    5778 points in 3dmark06 (without oc: 4700p), 174.74 forceware (with original nvidia inf)


    CORE:475@600mhz
    SHADERS:950@1200mhz
    MEMORIA:700@896mhz

    max temp 93ºC in 3dmark06 (in assasins creed --> 84 ºC 2 hours playing)

    [​IMG]
     
  10. nattfoedd

    nattfoedd Notebook Guru

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    5778 points with those clocks?? What resolution are you running 3dmark on?

    I just tried the new 174.94 drivers and they gave me another small increase in 3dmark, however temps are a little higher than before:

    [​IMG]

    So my personal new record are 5362 points (on 1280x1024)
    @ core 629 Mhz
    shaders 1258 Mhz
    memory 859 Mhz
     
  11. lord_neno

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    i use the default resolution... 1280, I cant change it because its the free version ^^

    174.74 with modded inf (from laptop2go)--->4400 3dmark06 (without OC)
    174.74 with original inf--->4700 3dmark06 (without OC)
    174.74 with original inf--->5778 3dmark06 (with OC)
     
  12. nattfoedd

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    interesting, so the inf has actual impact on the performance?? I always thought that it's only needed for the installation. Going to test that....
     
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    For some reason I can't O/C my CPU, no idea why.
    Everytime I try my display crashes while doing 3dmark06 benchmark, even when it's a very small O/C.
    Any suggestions?
     
  14. nattfoedd

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    As far as I've learned it isn't possible to OC the CPU and have the GPU running stable at the same time. It probably has something to do with the FSB having also an impact on the PCI-Express?!
    I wrote adolfotregosa an PM about that issue, since he wrote that CPU OC-tutorial, but he's got the same problem and has given up OCing the CPU.

    btw tested the 174.74 drivers with the original infs and it had indeed an impact on performance - I'm currently at 5402 Marks in 3dmark06 (1280x1024) and still pushing it further...
     
  15. lord_neno

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    what are your desk resolution?, my g1s only have 1440x900 and in registered 3dmark06 I only can put 1280x720 and 1440x900
     
  16. nattfoedd

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    Depending where I am I've connected my G1s to either a 22" (1680x1050) or a 17" (1280x1024) monitor - so in both cases I can set the 3dmark resolution to the standart 1280x1024.
    (Only when running around at university I'm using the notebook's own display ;) )
     
  17. nattfoedd

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    Just wanted to let you know, that after hours of trial and error I achieved a stable overclock of both CPU and GPU - with a quite impressive 3dmark result of
    5539 Marks @1280x1024

    Using driver 174.74 (with original infs - thx for the info lord_neno)
    GPU@ 512/1250/880Mhz (using rivatuner)
    CPU@ 2,7 Ghz (using setfsb)

    You can see my settings and temperatures on the screenshot
    [​IMG]
     
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  18. The3DLink

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    Which original .inf did you use exactly? The one in the base directory or one from the original infs.zip? What was the name of the file?
     
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  19. nattfoedd

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    There's zip-file included called original_inf(s).zip with 55 infs, which I copied over into the drivers folder (which overwrites the ones in there).

    btw I'm currently using the 175.63 drivers, though I'm still not sure if I stay with them - they don't seem to be as overclock-stable as the 174.74s...

    edit: Forgot to mention that they do have slightly better 3dmark performance though - I just can't push the shaders up that high anymore...
    [​IMG]
     
  20. Predator_MF

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    I just got 5446 with 520/780/1455MHz, it's a 150pts more than my last result, I think I can easily break those 5600 points if I increase GPU clock to 530-540 and memory to 840-850 for example :)

    PS: ...and more if I turn those background running programs like everest, RMClock, etc.
     
  21. nattfoedd

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    No one doubts that, however it would be interesting at which resolution and which drivers.
    You can't compare results done with 1280x720 with 1280x1024 results ;)
     
  22. Predator_MF

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    Yes I know that, I'm talking about the default 3DMark06 res - 1280x1024. I just made another test with 520/870MHz and got 5568
     
  23. The3DLink

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    @nattfoedd: You're running XP with those #'s, right?
     
  24. nattfoedd

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    Yes it's XP Prof. SP 2
     
  25. nattfoedd

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    Alright guys just reached my next milestone - 5706 @ 1280x1024 :cool:

    [​IMG]

    My new approach included raising the PCI-E clock slightly, so I could keep both CPU and GPU clocks lower.

    With a max. Temp of 83°C I wish there was an easy way to change GPU voltage...there's definitely some space left ;)
     
  26. Irathi

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    your shader clock can still be increased by another 100 pts.
     
  27. nattfoedd

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    nope - my shader clock limit are 1332Mhz, but this is very instable when running together with the OCed CPU, so I keep it at 1285Mhz...
     
  28. Irathi

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    hmm thats weird, im running 1375 without any stability problems. I normally have these clocks now : 544 / 1325 / 807. Then again your memory clock is set very high. Id try to lower the memory by 30 points, increase internal clock to 550+ and increase the shader.
     
  29. The3DLink

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    @nattfoedd: Congrats! Keep up the good work! I would love to see someone break the 6k mark...
     
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    New milestone for me fellas... I broke 5k in Vista!
    Here's my setup:
    Vista 32bit
    Forceware 175.75 (these seem pretty good/stable for me).
    Core/Shaders/Mem @ 630/1404/820.
    Max temp = 89C.
    3DMark Score 5005 3DMarks
    SM 2.0 Score 2169
    SM 3.0 Score 1973
    CPU Score 1685
     

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  31. nattfoedd

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    Your bottleneck is definitely your CPU - I guess with a T7700 you'd gain around 5600 marks with these clocks.
     
  32. The3DLink

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    I'd love to break the 6k mark... :biggrin: Think with the x9000 I could pull it off? I know it has a higher thermal envelope, but I am thinking a higher CPU temp might be beneficial to the GPU by turning the internal fan on sooner. I know alot of people would say the x9000 would be a waste especially since the bios wouldn't allow it to be overclocked to it's potential. But I do some rendering and any extra horsepower=good for me.
     
  33. nattfoedd

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    I guess you could - with 2,8Ghz and 6mb cache at least your CPU score will boost up almost 1000 points from your 1685 I assume.
     
  34. The3DLink

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    Hehe.. that'd be nice. Saw some on Ebay for ~$500, which will prolly go down with the release of Montevina. Also there was some engineering samples on there for like ~$400, but I'd rather not risk that and just stick with the release revision.

    What are your SM scores? I'm just curious how much this CPU is really holding the GPU back. I thought I'd be GPU limited, but you think I'm CPU limited as well?
     
  35. nattfoedd

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    Well I still think it's definitely GPU limited when talking about games, but I guess especially 6mb L2 cache will also help your gaming performance..

    My scores:
    SM2: 2351
    HDR/SM3: 2187
    CPU: 2363

    (these are with CPU@2,64Ghz - GPU @534/1285 888Mhz and 174.74)
     
  36. Irathi

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    3d your CPU really does limit your G1S, i crossed 5076 points earlier with 544/1325/826 clocks, much much lower then yours. - however i have the 2,2 clocked to almost 2.4 which gives 150 points more, probably 300 more then your CPU. Ive seen 5700 points on the G1S, but thats with a T9300 and that alone is 700 points..

    oh and i also advise you not to OC the GPU any more, because that is close to its limits.. the highest clock i seen on clock/mem was 600/848, - you running it at 630 is impressive mate! Personally ive never crossed 1400 mark for the shader.

    So the only thing i think you can increase more is the memory, another 20 hz

    CPU :

    T7300 - scores around 1600 pts
    T7500 - scores 1800 pts
    T7700 - scores 2000 pts
    T9300 - oc'd to 2,7 ghz, scores 2600 i think
     
  37. nattfoedd

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    Alright installed the 175.80s this afternoon and they definitely brought more stability and performance.

    Here's my last result: 5880 marks
    SM2: 2423
    SM3/HDR: 2264
    CPU: 2353

    CPU @2,63Ghz PCI-E@109Mhz
    GPU @534/1285/888Mhz

    All lids opened and keyboard removed -> max. GPU@79°C CPU@64°C
     

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    Yeah, that's close to what I have, 5535 last test with 175.80, GPU is OC to 500/783/1400. There's a lot of space to clock furthermore, but I aint taking my chances, it's 30°C daytime and I pass 92°C with higher clocks.

    And yes, 175.80 seem to be more stable.

    Btw you are talking about 1280x1024, right ? Please mention the res you run 3Dmark06 on :)
     
  39. The3DLink

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    Yeah, at first I thought it might have just been the performance gap between XP & Vista, now I'm looking to upgrade the CPU, oh well... :rolleyes:

    I didn't really feel comfortable doing that to my poor little GPU, but I just wanted to see if I could crack that 5k barrier. Plus, I figure the 8600 & 8700's are like twins that got separated at birth. One just went to live in a warmer climate...

    P.S. - Check this pic out.. if 630 is crazy... 661 is insane!
    [DISCLAIMER: DO NOT TRY THIS AT HOME] I watched EVERY SINGLE FRAME of 3DMark06 to make sure everything was going ok. Plus, I AM crazy. But for real, I was sweating bullets the whole time. I definitely won't make a habit of that. Note the temperature though... and all that I used was my external vent fan! Covers/keys=on.

    P.P.S. - Has anyone speculated(dreamed) if the upcoming mobile quad Penryn would be viable in the G1S? I heard it's supposed to be pin compatible, but since it's meant for a higher FSB(1066?), the multiplier would hinder it from reaching full speed in our sytems unless the chip/bios can accomodate....??? Thoughts?
     
  40. nattfoedd

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    yes it's 1280x1024 just take a look at the screenshot! ;)
     
  41. Irathi

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    the g1s is limited to 800fsb i believe so i think your best choice is the T9xxx series
     
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    unforunately ~900Mhz is pretty much the limit of the 8600's ram, so even better cooling won't help much I'm afraid. I only had 79°C during my latest OC with 5880 marks, but I still couldn't push it further. Of course the 79°C is only GPU and not G-RAM, but it's temperature should also have been much lower than usual..
    The only way to push it further would be via higher voltage and I'm afraid that isn't possible even with a flashed bios because of the hardware.

    However I'd be much more interested in lowering the voltage of the "low 3d power" mode to the same as "2d", which would improve windows temps a lot!
     
  44. lord_neno

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    mmm I have monitorize the mhz of 8600gt in aero, and I see that it works at performance 3d Mhz.... i dont understand...


    This night i will try the max VRAM mhz with peltier :p
     
  45. nattfoedd

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    hm maybe because of aero - in XP it's "3d low" - I've forced the clocks in a rivatuner profile down to 125/250MHz while doing 2d stuff in Windows, but because of the voltage temps are not as low as they could easily be...
    However I've never messed with Nibitor so I don't want to risk chaning it myself and probably screwing the whole BIOS.
     
  46. lord_neno

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    it seems than VIsta only use performance 3D lol xD.
     
  47. lord_neno

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    mm 175.80 drivers works in performance 3d mode all the time (in aero too) and temps in idle = 70.

    , but 175.70 use standar2d and low power 3d, then the temp in idle are 62 C.

    I think that this is a 175.80 bug... what a pitty, because this drivers are very stable with OC :_
     
  48. plattnnum

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    which drivers have you tested/find are the best? 174.74 seemed better than 175.80 for me?
     
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    Sorry but I just COULDN'T resist on this... Some of you know me from several posts about the G1s others don't so... I have this laptop for allmost a year now and i know him better than my hand palm...

    Guys please learn once and for all that this laptop GPU does not like that the cpu is over-clocked just like Irathi already mentioned it. ALSO PELASE, understand that ALMOST every laptop has it's own limit. Some are good overclockers and others just aren't, keep this in mind !!!!! Also , "" i've runned 50hours of 3dmark and it didn't crashed so it's stable"" , wrong. I also thought like that and i found that some other game crashed the GPU after """50hours of 3dmark non stop""" and i can mention one, Test drive unlimited.

    Info about my system. T7700 NOT OVERCLOCKED, Win XP SP3 and Drivers 175.80. JUST for your information the new 177.26 didn't work well, believe me, leave them alone. Mods on it that matters for this topic: I've put Artic Cooling MX2 on the cpu and gpu and taked off ONLY THE RIGHT/SIDE black sticker on the cover of the cpu. For GPU THE MAX MAX temps I can say that after much much hours/days modding and fiddling is 90º when playing GRID DEMO ,( this is the only game i found that makes the GPU hotter than the atitool 3d cube) without any type of cooler pad (but i do have the notepal from coolermaster for when i use the laptop on the bed for e.g. not because of the temps but because of my legs that get to hot lolol )

    ok, let the games begin,

    First of all i'll teach you guys how to overclock and SHOW THE REAL CLOCKS.. Because this type of card DOES NOT WORK MHZ BY MHZ, and rivatuner does not show the right clocks on them. Want Prof?? No Problem.

    http://forums.guru3d.com/showthread.php?t=223159&page=8

    Fist post dated "06-20-2007, 03:59"


    Well going on, for e.g.

    This is for you "The3DLink" on post 89

    [​IMG]

    661 WHAT ?????

    Another example, because LOWER DOES NOT REALLY MEAN LOWER, look at the SHADER, it's the most obvious example on this matter.

    [​IMG]


    For Lord_nemo Post 92.

    That guy has higher clocks than he says so IF the clocks WERE NOT READ FROM RIVATUNER !!

    [​IMG]


    Now let me show you guys the real thing. There's 2 type of overclock, 3DMARK overclock and STABLE overclock and this is THE ONLY ONE THAT MATTERS TO ME. Also all of my downclocks/overclocks are made into the bios and you can see that because all of rivatuner 3D sliders are centered (don't know why the 2d aren't...) and the default button is greyed out. The 3d low clocks were kept stock. Seams ok for me.

    My 2d clocks:

    [​IMG]

    My 3d clocks:

    [​IMG]

    Now, since I'm old school i like to still benchmark using 1024x768 so..

    [​IMG]



    AND because my monitor does not permit me to use 1280x1024 ( and atm i don't have any external so this is the closest to it i can get 1280x854)

    [​IMG]



    To finish 1440x900, my max res

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    Now i just wanted to show/tell you guys to be HONEST , i really know that this kind of topic turns into some kind of competition and that's bad.. because that brings cheats and i smell them, anyhow, I to can to play that. And believe me if you want, because it was not photoshopped !!!!

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    I really hope that this helps you guys on your future overclocks/posts ok ??

    And since the forum is for learning, learn that 3dmark is not a good example for thinking, " the higher score the better fps and gameplay i'll get !!!" wrong...
     
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